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#4976
YohkoOhno

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The silence should speak for your answer. No?  Is this is page 200 already, 3 weeks after launch?

 

On the last page I posted my verified return: undeliverable. [Yes, I actually do feel this game is undeliverable looking at the many who own it but cannot enjoy it - that's what I call a value promise undelivered] Smarter than either of you, maybe, I divined the answer.

You two seem to be trying a different tactic to get Bioware to act.

Good luck with that,.

 

It seems you are mostly going by complaints here rather than seeing for yourself if the game can run.  That's not the best way to evaluate the game.

 

You're really doing more than returning the game.  You attempted to start a twitter hash tag indicating your dissatisfaction.  Since only two people used the tag it was easy to figure out who you were.

 

https://twitter.com/RA_Whipple

 

and going to your linked in profile here:

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/whipple

 

You basically say two things here Mr. Whipple that trouble me.

 

"I use social science to systematically manipulate behaviour",

 

So in part, I feel you are using your skills as a PR guy to try to manipulate others into thinking this is some kind of bigger problem than it is.  What's also troubling is that you make statements thinking all the coders are guilty and you have no sympathy for them, but you admit you are "unemployeable".  And I would think you would have much more sympathy and have more constructive criticism based on your LinkedIn profile than falling into the same tired on stance that "old RPGs are better, Bioware sold its soul", etc.

 

The fact is, the game appears to be selling well, and more people are happy with it than not.  I'm affected by the bugs too, mostly the voice stuff, but the game hasn't been out that long and I'm sure a patch is incoming.  Arguing about the direction of the game is not the same as dealing with the bugs.  


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#4977
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Well, i guess it's back to finishing Wasteland 2, The Wolf Among Us and GoT, until the patch drops. Last game im buying on release, the worst thing is it's really good, but for those little petty shitty things that destroy the enjoyment of playing it...

Aye, as I said earlier, like serving a dish without cutlery, and then disappearing in the kitchen while your customers are forced to eat with their hands.


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#4978
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ooh, burn!

I don't mean to bust the balls of either you or Alligator. We're on the same side of this equation and have a right to be good and riled - but not at each other. We're wearing the same team shirts. 

 

But sometimes we have to grab whatever Bill Hook is available, light the torches and storm the castle like its 1351 again.

 


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#4979
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H A P P Y 2 0 0th P A G E !!!
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It seems you are mostly going by complaints here rather than seeing for yourself if the game can run.  That's not the best way to evaluate the game.

 

You're really doing more than returning the game.  You attempted to start a twitter hash tag indicating your dissatisfaction.  Since only two people used the tag it was easy to figure out who you were.

I will ignore the off-topic ad hominem and strawman arguments and get to the point you inadvertently raise about wisdom.  

 

Wisdom is about avoiding the trouble from experience. I did not manage that with DA2, where lies were used to indicate a game as good in mechanics and role-play experience as DA:O  I have with DA3.  And I am not the only person lucky enough to have done that as this whole topic has had handfuls of people do the same and/or complain about the window return.

 

$70 for a game as "design-decision flawed" as this DA3 is - so bad that a WHOLE now silent QA TEAM could not find the flaws - and deceptively marketed to manipulate customers who are not often willing to seek a refund once the cash has gone (that's a for real statistic) is just too much.

 

 

Are you saying that I have no "credible" complaint here because I am not stuck with a flawed game I was manipulated into buying? Are you suggesting I should not have had returned the game - or otherwise incurred further expense (shipping/insurance/customs tax) to return the game? Are you saying the impressions gained from Let's Plays are invalid? Are you saying that watching a tsunami of poor suckers complain to deaf ears should not ENRAGE me?  Just how professional do you think I am?

 

And then you want to dox someone #gamergate. And what relevance does doxxing have to this conversation?   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing I feel privileged to be elevated to the level of harrassment Felicia Day experienced. Were you behind that too?

 

Are you one of the same Bioware employees who were burnt and outed for leaving rave reviews on e-commerce sites like Amazon for DA2? You want to talk about relevant social manipulation, let's go. http://www.escapistm...Scandal-UPDATED

 

It seems to me that some people here could use a hired gun on their side for a change - rather than being against a team of Bioware marketing mercenaries under the banner of PR.


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H A P P Y 2 0 0th P A G E !!!

 

Just have to say: Bahahahah



#4982
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Ok Boiware, just look at this UI !

 

Nice clean and practical ! And look, it even works with controller ! ;)

 

Magic ? no, professionalism !

 

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Oh look, they've managed to cram  a grid based inventory, the character model, a bunch of stats AND tooltips on the same screen. The same thing in DAI takes what, 4 to 5 screens?


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#4983
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@ Pen-n-Paper: The game is not bug-free, but it's running perfectly fine for a lot of people. Most of the complaints here are very subjective. I don't mind the design choices. I like DA:I for what it is and for what it wants to be. You hate DA:I for what it isn't, all the while missing all the points that make this game great. Don't you have better things to do?



#4984
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Dear Kim Jong Un,

 

please send your finest hirest goons to do a Sony on Bioware and let us know what is going to be be fixed and what is going to be left as a raised middle finger to long time m&kb party-based cRPG stalwarts.

 

Sincerely,

 

your pal,

D. Rodman.

 

kidding aside, poor form Bioware.:P


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@ Pen-n-Paper: The game is not bug-free, but it's running perfectly fine for a lot of people. Most of the complaints here are very subjective. I don't mind the design choices. I like DA:I for what it is and for what it wants to be. You hate DA:I for what it isn't, all the while missing all the points that make this game great. Don't you have better things to do?

I was lied to. And my expectations for this MMO clone were very low - and fed by its promotion. I asked for clarification (on these forums) and received none. But I was lied to.  

 

So no, for the time being, I do not have higher tasks to do than to stand up for myself.  Just because I returned the game for a refund of $105 does not mean I have abdicated my right to stand up for my own self-worth as a customer. Notice the game arrived on November 27. In my book, that is lots of time to have had truth to questions that should have been forthcoming before launch.


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#4986
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wins goty,

 

sill hasn't released any patches to make the game UI not totally ****.



#4987
Vash654

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lol.... the game awards are such a joke.  DAI game of the year?  When it was shipped unfinished with a ton of bugs, and horrible pc controls/ui.  Best RPG?? After they dumbed down all the rpg elements?  Dark souls 2 and divinity were better rpgs.

 

Maybe after they fix all this it would be a contender for goty, but shipping an unfinished title should be taken into account when giving out awards. Then again these problems seem to be all hush hush in the media besides for the banter bug.


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#4988
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Anyone else remembers DA2 launch? The technical problems related to DX11 needed 4 different driver releases and 2 patches to allow people to play without constant issues. It took 6-7 weeks to get the game to a semi-stable status. I don't see a brighter future here given the fact there's a lot to fix/change, including gameplay mechanics.


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It's not just about DAI, most of the AAA titles are being released unfinished. This year was a disaster, almost every game came out with big flaws. Industry lost its ethics.


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Oh look, they've managed to cram  a grid based inventory, the character model, a bunch of stats AND tooltips on the same screen. The same thing in DAI takes what, 4 to 5 screens?

 

And look there at the bottom!  They did that using a control pad!  Who would have thought you can make a UI that's friendly to both gamepad and KB:M set ups!



#4991
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Not related but made me laugh:

 

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#4992
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Metascore

Generally favorable reviewsbased on 32 CriticsWhat's this?

User Score

Mixed or average reviewsbased on 1738 Ratings

DAI Game of the year!!! HooraaY!!Critic Reviews

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  1. Positive:29out of 32
  2. Negative:
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  4.  
  1. Positive:363out of 781
  2. Negative:342

EDIT: F*K im not fixing this post...I'm just as shameless as Bioware now deal with it..


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#4993
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They don't deserve it, I hope they know that they got it due to shilling.



#4994
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Not related but made me laugh:

 

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:lol: lol
 



#4995
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I think that reviewers are indeed a big part of the problem. They just tend to overlook so many obvious problems. And even when they review a PC version of a game, they often don't even bother to check if the m&k controls are working as they should. It just feels like the press is always looking out for the developers, not consumer, even though the purpose of press should be the exact opposite.


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#4996
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If the reader has not bought Dragon Age Inquisition, not buy it. The game on the PC, has many problems, from the commands are not programmed well, the cam tactic, some bugs. And after almost 18 days since the launch of the game, not only the Bioware has not released any patch, it nor cares to release any statement for us players.


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#4997
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It's not just about DAI, most of the AAA titles are being released unfinished. This year was a disaster, almost every game came out with big flaws. Industry lost its ethics.

Doesn't deserve my money.

 

Of course, this is a Bioware topic so.... what a loss to be a true leader with Inquisition, Bioware.

Now, the customer needs to lead or fall: inquisition begins. (requires party play)



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They don't deserve it, I hope they know that they got it due to shilling.

I feel DA:I IS a good game, but it's far from Game of the Year for me.

 

Personally if I was to go by that list, on the RPG section Divinity should have won IMO. Though my personal game of the year remains Planet Explorers, an indie title that's still in alpha.



#4999
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DAI GOTY for me with Dark Souls 2 at marginally close second. Only reason DAI won over DkS2 is because DkS2 had probably one of the worst and most unnecessarily convoluted (non-sensible) story.

 

Frankly I don't think people play many AAA RPG games these days if they think DAI was the worst, bug-ridden launch ever. Diablo 3 was a disaster at launch but became a pretty solid game after a year or so. Reaper of Souls puts it on par with D2 IMO. Morrowwind, Oblivion, and Skyrim were also disasters at launch and modders we were the ones who had to fix most of the game's flaws.  

 

Also please don't say the Witcher series is better game play and optimization-wise then DAI. W1 was yet another bug ridden game with a game play style that was COMPLETELY hit or miss. You either loved it or hated it. W2 to W1 was exactly the same as DA2 was to DAO: Simplified, shorter, and with controls more geared towards consoles. Did I mention that W2 was also unplayable for a number of people at launch? In all likelihood, W3 will probably have just as many problems as DAI when its released. Every major AAA game these days is bug-ridden. 

 

I'm not saying DAI is perfect, because it really isn't. But people need to realize that compared to most other multi platform RPGs, DAI was actually one of the less unstable releases. Honestly coming to this thread makes me feel like i'm the only one who likes this game. 



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I think that reviewers are indeed a big part of the problem. They just tend to overlook so many obvious problems. And even when they review a PC version of a game, they often don't even bother to check if the m&k controls are working as they should. It just feels like the press is always looking out for the developers, not consumer, even though the purpose of press should be the exact opposite.

 

Haha, if you think that then the marketing team behind "For PC gamers, by PC gamers" would like to hire you.  The purpose of the press is to generate revenue from advertising in their publications.  "Professional Reviewers" work for for profit companies like IGN, who make their profit via advertising.  This whole nonsense about the press standing up for the little guy is just stupid propaganda that people have bought into.  

 

*Note - It's absolutely what the purpose of the press should be, and it's really a shame that it's not, or at least it has never been in my lifetime.  


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