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[sinosleep]

does he mean pc will get patch tm or that pc will get patch eventually but they will miss the goal? PR speak is hard to understand sometimes. Cause he specifically didn't say that, he just said ya it will get a patch.

I think it's pretty clear.

 

He said most platforms will miss the date.

 

He was then directly asked if PC was one of the platforms missing the date.

 

The response in direct reply to the person who asked about PC with regards specifically to the word most, was that the PC  would be getting patched.

 

I don't really see any other way that message could be interpreted.

[Chaos17]

The Witcher 3 delayed again, further 3 months. I wonder, what would happen if we saw DAI on the shelves by late December or early January. Would not the game be more stabilized and bug free by then?

 

According to an open letter published by The Board of CD PROJEKT SA, the delay is due to the "sheer size and complexity" of the game. "Now, nearing the end of our work," they write, "we see many details that need to be corrected. When we release the most important game in our studio’s history, we must be absolutely sure that we did everything we could to limit any bugs to a level that will allow you to enjoy the game thoroughly."

That's a good thing.

[DarkTl]

i don't remember how it was for TW (it's been awhile), but they patched TW2 a lot. They even reworked the whole battle system, added some dlcs for free and released version 2.0. Can we hope that bioware will do the same for DAI? Probably not.

[rupok93]

My best guess is, they've seen DAI and went all "OH fùck, oh fùck, we have like LOTS of things in common with this game, let's fix them while we can".

 

Dude witcher games and dragon age are not even remotely the same in game mechanics.... Neither is the story which uses book source material. They needed more polishing, they probably couldn't achieve what they advertised in the time period.

[BobbyGG2]

My best guess is, they've seen DAI and went all "OH fùck, oh fùck, we have like LOTS of things in common with this game, let's fix them while we can".

Dragon age has about as much in common with The Witcher 3 as it does with The Elder Scrolls and a lot of other games - They're all Open-World Medievil Fantasy games.

 

There's tons of differences between them that set them apart.

[Joe-Poe]

I just saw that and although I'm a little disapointed, I think they took a good decision by postponing launch. Witcher 3 is going to be massive if we take CDR word for it, and the February objective always sounded weird to me.

 

As a studio without any constraint from greedy publishers, CDR has the possibility to do this kind of postponing that I'm sure fans will comprehend if it's really to have the best experience possible. 

 

Obviously, BW couldn't do this as they work for EA, with EA's Frostbite and have to meet EA's deadline.

 

Also, CDR cares a lot about their reputation and giving players the best games possible so, well, I'll be waiting till may (and that will allow me to upgrade my rig =D)

CDR is what Bio use to be......Can't wait for them to start making their own ips.

[N1X0R2K]

Dragon age has about as much in common with The Witcher 3 as it does with The Elder Scrolls and a lot of other games - They're all Open-World Medievil Fantasy games.

 

There's tons of differences between them that set them apart.

 

I think the similarities he's referring to are most likely the "state of the game"

[joshmiller83]

I think it's pretty clear.

 

He said most platforms will miss the date.

 

He was then directly asked if PC was one of the platforms missing the date.

 

The response in direct reply to the person who asked about PC with regards specifically to the word most, was that the PC  would be getting patched.

 

I don't really see any other way that message could be interpreted.

 

I am pretty sure he meant PC would get the path tomorrow. We tweeted later back and forth about other stuff and it sounds hopeful! :| We'll see!

[sinosleep]

I am pretty sure he meant PC would get the path tomorrow. We tweeted later back and forth about other stuff and it sounds hopeful! :| We'll see!

That's exactly the way I see it.

[Danoniero]

there are already about 10+ pages confirming that PC patch IS coming tomorrow. COnsoles are delayed becouse of Microsoft/Sony. They have to test the patch before they allow It to go public.

 

The sad thing is few people already mentioned to Mark that someone from Bioware should post this info on official forums but he is completely ignorant for answering that question.

[Wildspirit]

i don't remember how it was for TW (it's been awhile), but they patched TW2 a lot. They even reworked the whole battle system, added some dlcs for free and released version 2.0. Can we hope that bioware will do the same for DAI? Probably not.

 

are u talking about the mod released by some of the dev team that improved combat mechanics ? cause this was the best thing ever ! x)

[brzoz]

sooo... any idea what's in the patch? cuz i'm delaying the pt (read: not buying the game again) till control patch is released. and by control patch i mean complete overhaul of tactical cam & point and click (no L+R mb to go forward, click on terrain and player char goes there)

[Brogan]

No but thumb buttons are common place on non-gaming mice these days and basically any mouse wheel produced in the last 10 years can be clicked and used as a button as well.

 

That was one of my chief complaints and something I'm completely dumbfounded by. Multi-button mice are so prevalent these days that even non-gaming specific mice tend to have multiple buttons. Which is why 99% of pc games recognize these buttons on the key bind screen.

 

Especially games wherein melee combat requires the player to constantly mash on the directional buttons or miss. Why is that important you ask? Because if WASD are your directional keys and Q,E,R or the number keys are expected to be used for abilities then guess what that results in? You MUST remove a finger from WASD in order to hit any of those keys, which means you are no longer able to do something that is essential to melee combat in this game. Using ability and directional keys simultaneously.

 

It would be substantially easier for me to simply rebind ability keys to my mouse buttons but since I can't rebind them officially, and I don't feel like setting up 3rd party key binds, I'm using shift and C as ability keys since I can hit those with my pinky or thumb without remove my other fingers from WASD.

 

flat out...  lazy programming...

 

QFT

[Shelled]

would be nice if we could get the patch notes today instead of tomorrow.

[Phentos]

The Witcher 3 delayed again, further 3 months. I wonder, what would happen if we saw DAI on the shelves by late December or early January. Would not the game be more stabilized and bug free by then?

 

According to an open letter published by The Board of CD PROJEKT SA, the delay is due to the "sheer size and complexity" of the game. "Now, nearing the end of our work," they write, "we see many details that need to be corrected. When we release the most important game in our studio’s history, we must be absolutely sure that we did everything we could to limit any bugs to a level that will allow you to enjoy the game thoroughly."

 

I'd rather a game be delayed for months or even a year than be released in a clearly unfinished state like most are in this day and age. 

 

The only major games I know of whose PC releases were delayed are Witcher 3, as said above, and GTA V. I'm hoping Rockstar makes the delay worth it by making GTA V the definitive experience it should be. GTA IV for PC was one of the worst ports in the history of PC gaming and that too was delayed. 

[Melchiorum]

EvE's Incarna expansion would like a word with you.

 

Unless, you assume that thousands had a poor cooling systems.

That's exactly what I would assume. Actually, I'm pretty sure that's it.

 

More than a half of pre-assembled systems (and especially laptops) have horrible cheap cases with near non-existent airflow, dried up thermal compound or simply poor coolers. Most of those systems work just fine-ish, but then a game comes up that actually uses the hardware capacity at its best and... things fry. The same has happened with Starcraft 2, when they did not limit the FPS in the main menu making the GPU's go whoooo! Bam! Dead systems. However, if your GPU can't handle the heat while fully loaded - it's a hardware malfunction, not a game's flaw.

 

Games can't cause overheating simply because games don't control your hardware's firmware. Drivers can do that, though, such as in case of overclocking, but even then it will not just happen, unless you screw up yourself by tweaking clocks and voltages (in rare cases - driver's producer screws up). Even if the chip heats up to its thermal threshold (which should never happen with a proper, correctly mounted cooler even at 100% load), the firmware will throttle down the clocks a bit to allow the cooler to do its job. And the only way you can experience real overheating is either if you have screwed up the clocks/voltages/fan profiles or if your cooler is failing to keep up. In both cases - it's not the game's fault.

 

Sure, the developers could simply limit the game's performance a bit, but then there would be thousands of angry users complaining of poor frame rates (which is actually the case even now). But the answer is way simpler: if one wants to play the latest games, one makes sure the system is up to par, with proper cooling solutions, adequate casing and a good air circulation inside of it. It can also be tested easily, as there are many synthetic tests, that push your hardware as no game would ever be able to do. If the system fails - you need to address the problem. If the system handles it fine - there will never be any problems with any game. Ever. 

 

Sorry for a long rant

[N1X0R2K]

would be nice if we could get the patch notes today instead of tomorrow.

 

In my experience you get patch notes with the patch, not before.

[Zylenn]

sooo... any idea what's in the patch? cuz i'm delaying the pt (read: not buying the game again) till control patch is released. and by control patch i mean complete overhaul of tactical cam & point and click (no L+R mb to go forward, click on terrain and player char goes there)

I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. First patch is most likely going to be bug fixing and adressing stability issues.

[Brogan]

sooo... any idea what's in the patch? cuz i'm delaying the pt (read: not buying the game again) till control patch is released. and by control patch i mean complete overhaul of tactical cam & point and click (no L+R mb to go forward, click on terrain and player char goes there)

 

You are definitely not the only one in that situation.

 

There has been zero word from Bioware whether the first patch will contain anything on the pc ui at all.

 

There has been contact from a dev who talked about how easy something like click to move in Action Can would be to implement, but nothing regarding when or if they actually will do so.  So for the pc controls, I would not rule anything out with the patch, but I would also expect nothing from it either.

[brzoz]

I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. First patch is most likely going to be bug fixing and adressing stability issues.

if that's true... huh, well at least i have brand new machine, ready to play those gpu-demanding wastelands 2 then 

[JaneF]

That's a good thing.

 

Good for them in doing so. Yes am annoyed I'll not be able to play a real RPG with depth and complexity until May, but at least they are trying to iron out bugs and issues to give their customers a smooth launch...as opposed to rushing it out in time for Christmas to get more money - for a broken and substandard product.

[Reverend1313]

You are definitely not the only one in that situation.

 

There has been zero word from Bioware whether the first patch will contain anything on the pc ui at all.

 

There has been contact from a dev who talked about how easy something like click to move in Action Can would be to implement, but nothing regarding when or if they actually will do so.  So for the pc controls, I would not rule anything out with the patch, but I would also expect nothing from it either.

If they add the ability to map all the actions like walk and the ability to use side mouse buttons, and add LMB+RMB move then I'll repurchase the game. Icing on the cake would be a complete overhaul of the god awful UI for inventory and skills but I don't expect to ever see that. 

[Brogan]

In my experience you get patch notes with the patch, not before.

 

I remember a couple instances where patch notes were released the day before, for various pc games.

[Schattenlaeufer]

I wonder why they wont release the patchnotes? :S

 

Surprise: They add a GotY-animation to start- and loadingscreens! Yeah, while this might increase loading times for most gamers, it will let you even more enjoy the game and you have to view it as kind of free content-dlc!!!

[Skeevley]

This is very good news. Considering the game appears to be largely working well on Consoles (that is, the controls are designed for them, so the game plays much better regardless of other bugs which may exist), it makes sense that they concentrate on the PC patch first since that's where it's most necessary.