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[BammBamm]

Fixed is doing the whole dam thing from scratch removing all that console casual nonsense and giving us a dam PC UI instead(inventory on a single screen instead of multiple bloody pages,when you open a chest and highlight a piece of armor/weapon etc a info image should come up giving you a comparison to the piece you have equipped instead of you having to grab it then go into your inventory see if its better and if not destroy it!.

 

Furthermore remove that stupid console limitation of 8 ability's on the hotbar replace it with a hotbar like DAO/DA2 where you can map upwards of 20+ spells/talents and unified camera movement controls for tac cam and pause mode including screen edge mouse scrolling.If they actually meant what they said in that "made by PC Gamers for PC Gamers then these things and many more are not optional they are mandatory anything less and that video is nothing but a deliberate lie and false advertising.

 

so dont play the game till at least the next patch because this one will not nearly satisfy you. but maybe you should let the game completely go because its highly unlikely bioware and other users have exactly the same definition of things like you.

 

but hey, we know both you are just waiting for a reason to start the shitstorm again

[Oryctolagus]

And people like you are why games are released in this disgraceful state

 

The first post-launch video game patch to address bugs was in 1984; the developers promised champagne and a helicopter ride to anyone who could beat it.

 

They distributed it via magazine - users had to type the patches in themselves.  You had to have subscribed to one of these magazines and be cool with BASIC programming to fix it.

 

It was also on cassette tape.

 

Tell me more about how games are in a lamentable state now because of expectations.

[Squallypo]

Does this patch even fixes the textures problems for ps3/360?? You totally know what im talking about.

[tpho99]

Ignore the "xbox controller for PC is king" and/or "my game runs fine lolol fu" trolls, plx.

 

It just adds to BW ignoring our input, if they hadn't ignored it enough already.

[Sysliana]

Okay, I just finished The Wolf Among Us.. (Bigby.. *drool*) .. patch can go live now before Kiddo gets home from school! lol

[Szaby59]

No DirectX 11.1 support, posted this on "Technical Support" forums but was advised to post it on BioWare forums.

 

 

According to the picture you posted the "problem" is that GTX 690 (Kepler) does not fully support DX11.1.

Kepler supports DirectX 11.1 with hardware API feature level 11.0.

As for the job threads - 2 CPU threads are given to the graphics driver under DirectX API, that's why your job threads are limited to 2 with a quad core and 4 with a 6+ core CPU - and this is why in CPU limited situations AMD users can gain some extra performance boost using the Mantle render (with Mantle all CPU threads are available).

 

nVidia introduced full Directx 11.1 support with the Maxwell architecture, here is the OSD info with my GTX970 and DirectX 11.1: 

 

[gingeranna]

The first post-launch video game patch to address bugs was in 1984; the developers promised champagne and a helicopter ride to anyone who could beat it.

 

They distributed it via magazine - users had to type the patches in themselves.  You had to have subscribed to one of these magazines and be cool with BASIC programming to fix it.

 

It was also on cassette tape.

 

Tell me more about how games are in a lamentable state now because of expectations.

 

I'd have thought it was pretty obvious but you know that already, right?

 

Because....

 

1) Back then, magazine-based programs cost only the price of the magazine and the time to input it, which in of itself was FAR more than just wanting to play a video game.

 

2) Back then, the developers didn't have an instant means of delivering content to you. Updates to code and mistakes in code would be put out via magazine updates, so you'd be waiting a month.

 

Their point to you is very obvious and absolutely true. The more gamers, customers, become desensitized to delays in getting a working game, the more it becomes 'the norm', the more developers and publishers will push and push. The less they have to do to release, the better. The easier it is for them to get away with releasing shoddy games, the better. The release now, fix later mentality.

 

Plus, I don't recall paying $60 for a magazine and then venting at how a single typo rendered my game inoperable. In this scenario, we the gamers are largely blameless. We didn't design controls on the PC version. We didn't design the Tactical Cam and all the shoddiness around it. We were expected to pay professionals to make sure all that was taken care of and guess what? Built by PC gamers, for PC gamers was complete rubbish. Lies.

 

Bioware don't get a free pass from me now, no matter how much they patch. The next game they put out, the onus is on them to prove the quality. Else, no sale.

[DisturbedJim83]

That doesn't give one a reason to treat the developers like trash. I don't know if you have, but others in this thread are certainly guilty. Yeah, I wish BioWare would be more open than they have been, but this seems to be the standard in the industry. Companies tend to be silent until they actually have something to show, or their plans are pretty much guaranteed. BioWare said they were listening to the feedback, and the game isn't even a month old. They just can't patch the game that quickly, considering the overhaul that people are demanding. 

If they want to be treated with respect then they need to earn it by delivering a product that works and not produce misleading videos making their product appear to be something its not until such time they deserve all the heat they are getting,they need to stop living in this bubble where they think everyone uses bloody twitter case in point:

 

Mark Darrah creates this thread where on November 26th he stops posting here yet continues to post on Twitter he even has in his latest post the audacity to link to this thread that he has not participated in since November 26th when console customers respond to his PR Hype Machine Tweets about the number of Bugs on the PS4/XB1 versions"Thanks for the big middle finger look at the list of bugs on the PS4 forum" His response is "Excuse Me?".

 

Furthermore they edited out the CTD on their latest livestream and now look at the main store page on Origin it says and I quote:

 

Critics Agree Dragon Age Inquisition is incredible play it now and find out Why.

 

So now we are back to typical Bioware/EA attitudes no public apology and add more hype with a extra dose of hype and cover up the truth with a sprinkle of the silent treatment.

[BammBamm]

Furthermore they edited out the CTD on their latest livestream and now look at the main store page on Origin it says and I quote:

 

they didnt edit it out, the stream was split into two videos and in the second you can see the crash. but haters gonna hate

[tpho99]

cover up the truth with a sprinkle of the silent treatment.

Sounds great, where do I sign up?!

 

Oh, wait ...

[Phibrizzo]

the patch is comming today rite?... rite???

[Oryctolagus]

I'd have thought it was pretty obvious but you know that already, right?

 

Because....

 

1) Back then, magazine-based programs cost only the price of the magazine and the time to input it, which in of itself was FAR more than just wanting to play a video game.

 

2) Back then, the developers didn't have an instant means of delivering content to you. Updates to code and mistakes in code would be put out via magazine updates, so you'd be waiting a month.

 

Their point to you is very obvious and absolutely true. The more gamers, customers, become desensitized to delays in getting a working game, the more it becomes 'the norm', the more developers and publishers will push and push. The less they have to do to release, the better. The easier it is for them to get away with releasing shoddy games, the better. The release now, fix later mentality.

 

Plus, I don't recall paying $60 for a magazine and then venting at how a single typo rendered my game inoperable. In this scenario, we the gamers are largely blameless. We didn't design controls on the PC version. We didn't design the Tactical Cam and all the shoddiness around it. We were expected to pay professionals to make sure all that was taken care of and guess what? Built by PC gamers, for PC gamers was complete rubbish. Lies.

 

Bioware don't get a free pass from me now, no matter how much they patch. The next game they put out, the onus is on them to prove the quality. Else, no sale.

 

No, that wasn't my point.  The game wasn't programmed by the user; the user bought the box, just like now.  The user took the box home, installed it, and played it.  There were bugs.  If sufficiently motivated, the user could find the fixes and fix it.  The above is an example of the fact that it is NOT outside of expectations for a game to be shipped with bugs and it is certainly not because we have become desensitized to it.  The more complex the software, the more complex the bugs.  The contract for buying software has always been that if it's broken it will be fixed.  It's been that way since the first game.

 

I get that it's frustrating to buy a game and have it not work.  I've experienced that frustration.  I've stopped buying from some companies because they've deviated way too far from what I consider acceptable, and that includes the level of bugs and polish on release.  The more they do that, the less people will buy them.  It's a self-correcting problem.

 

The next time Bioware releases an RPG, will you pre-order it or buy it the day of?  Or will you wait to see if they lied about the development?  Or will you be okay with the bugs and wait for a fix?  These are all subjective things.  There is no industry or publisher standard to push against.  There are only individual decisions by publishers and game companies.  You decide which fulfill their contract with you or not, and then you buy from them again or not.

 

tldr;  this has been the case since day one, with retail releases in the box, no expectations have changed

[ladyluck278]

If this was answered before I am sorry to ask again but I did NOT read every answer or comment on here. I am NOT new to the Dragon Age Series and just LOVE inquistion but cannot find the patches. Where do I go to download the patches or is it automatic? Thanks for the responses and anyone that wants to call me a dummy feel free as I do not take these things personally.

[Boobasaurus]

If this was answered before I am sorry to ask again but I did NOT read every answer or comment on here. I am NOT new to the Dragon Age Series and just LOVE inquistion but cannot find the patches. Where do I go to download the patches or is it automatic? Thanks for the responses and anyone that wants to call me a dummy feel free as I do not take these things personally.

 

What platform are you playing on? Usually it patches automatically on Origin. I am not sure how it works on consoles.

[sinosleep]

If this was answered before I am sorry to ask again but I did NOT read every answer or comment on here. I am NOT new to the Dragon Age Series and just LOVE inquistion but cannot find the patches. Where do I go to download the patches or is it automatic? Thanks for the responses and anyone that wants to call me a dummy feel free as I do not take these things personally.

Origin should auto-update, you can also force an update by right clicking the game from the origin window and clicking update. However the patch doesn't appear to be up yet.

[Oryctolagus]

If this was answered before I am sorry to ask again but I did NOT read every answer or comment on here. I am NOT new to the Dragon Age Series and just LOVE inquistion but cannot find the patches. Where do I go to download the patches or is it automatic? Thanks for the responses and anyone that wants to call me a dummy feel free as I do not take these things personally.

 

The patch hasn't been released yet; if you're using Origins it'll come down automatically.  Should be sometime today.

[Netzachs]

Can bioware please hire a community manager? They seem to have no problem posting this -

http://blog.bioware....for-dragon-age/

But not releasing/ mentioning it at all in the PC Concerns thread when this is about PC concerns.

It would be nice to go to this side of the forum and see something besides the 240 pages of user complaints about the PC. The button "Show bioware only posts" should bring more up to date info than a post made by someone on November 26th when it's already December 9th (the day of the patch release.)

I want this game to succeed, and client customer relationships are just as much about communication as any other type of relationship.

I hope this isn't an unreasonable concern to put in "PC concerns." After all, the gist is "My concern with the game as a PC player is the lack of responsiveness and communication with the PC community about the game. You may have an official twitter page, but twitter should not be your official means of communication." Thank you.

[Ero_the_Great]

The patch hasn't been released yet; if you're using Origins it'll come down automatically.  Should be sometime today.

 

With my luck sometimes during the night where I live.

[ladyluck278]

No, that wasn't my point.  The game wasn't programmed by the user; the user bought the box, just like now.  The user took the box home, installed it, and played it.  There were bugs.  If sufficiently motivated, the user could find the fixes and fix it.  The above is an example of the fact that it is NOT outside of expectations for a game to be shipped with bugs and it is certainly not because we have become desensitized to it.  The more complex the software, the more complex the bugs.  The contract for buying software has always been that if it's broken it will be fixed.  It's been that way since the first game.

 

I get that it's frustrating to buy a game and have it not work.  I've experienced that frustration.  I've stopped buying from some companies because they've deviated way too far from what I consider acceptable, and that includes the level of bugs and polish on release.  The more they do that, the less people will buy them.  It's a self-correcting problem.

 

The next time Bioware releases an RPG, will you pre-order it or buy it the day of?  Or will you wait to see if they lied about the development?  Or will you be okay with the bugs and wait for a fix?  These are all subjective things.  There is no industry or publisher standard to push against.  There are only individual decisions by publishers and game companies.  You decide which fulfill their contract with you or not, and then you buy from them again or not.

 

tldr;  this has been the case since day one, with retail releases in the box, no expectations have changed

Am I the only one that had NO issues with this game at all from day one? I did the digital pre-order and found nothing to be game breaking. Found a few MINOR issues that can be over looked but I think the game at least for the PC was mostly bug free. A game on this expansion will ALWAYS have bugs, should be expected whether you purchase in a box or on line. That is why there are patches done to create. I for one will always pre order mine. I pre-ordered DAO when it first came out, for my Xbox, then moved to the PC. Oh have not tried the multiplayer yet so not sure if bugs exist there.

[gingeranna]

The next time Bioware releases an RPG, will you pre-order it or buy it the day of?  Or will you wait to see if they lied about the development?  Or will you be okay with the bugs and wait for a fix?  These are all subjective things.  There is no industry or publisher standard to push against.  There are only individual decisions by publishers and game companies.  You decide which fulfill their contract with you or not, and then you buy from them again or not.

 

tldr;  this has been the case since day one, with retail releases in the box, no expectations have changed

 

I of course understand that but here we have a developer, Bioware, who wilfully lied to their PC-base.

Built by PC gamers, for PC gamers.

There's a world of difference between plumping for the next multiplat, or buying a multplat because you've been lulled into a directly false sense of security. That's what PC gamers have with this specific game.

[ladyluck278]

Origin should auto-update, you can also force an update by right clicking the game from the origin window and clicking update. However the patch doesn't appear to be up yet.

Thanks should have said PC. I figured as much because I searched and searched and did not find the patches.

[Oryctolagus]

I of course understand that but here we have a developer, Bioware, who wilfully lied to their PC-base.

Built by PC gamers, for PC gamers.

There's a world of difference between plumping for the next multiplat, or buying a multplat because you've been lulled into a directly false sense of security. That's what PC gamers have with this specific game.

 

I agree that this should be explained if they want to retain the trust of some number of customers.

[Radko]

9 am in Edmonton Canada. I think we will wait a few more hours.

[Ero_the_Great]

9 am in Edmonton Canada. I think we will wait a few more hours.

 

Not big on starting work at 7/8 am over there?

[sinosleep]

I of course understand that but here we have a developer, Bioware, who wilfully lied to their PC-base.

Built by PC gamers, for PC gamers.

There's a world of difference between plumping for the next multiplat, or buying a multplat because you've been lulled into a directly false sense of security. That's what PC gamers have with this specific game.

That is by far my biggest issue personally. I'm one of the "lucky ones" apparently that hasn't really had all that many problems with regards to bugs. My game crashes maybe once or twice every 5 or 6 hours sometimes going longer stretches without any crashes so on that front I've been more or less fine with DA: I. It's the UI/control issues that have really driven me up the wall because so many of them are brain dead, standard pc features that have been around for years and somehow were omitted from a game built by pc gamers for pc gamers.

 

Which is even more baffling when you consider that many of the features in question were available in Mass Effect and previous Dragon Age games. I understand not all BioWare games are made by the same development team but isn't there usually some kind of company wide oversight or standard to live up to?