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Indeed, there're 220+ pages of bugs reports whatever the platforms is used on the Technical forum.
It can't be that innocent.
So yes, it's not only pc users who has trouble with this game.
220+ pages of teh same people posting over and over again like here?
not sure if this been mentioned but i wish we had the controls of DA:O & DA2 instead of the current continuously holding down R or left click to attack.
and please bring back click to move and right click to attack & examine? Found out that i have to walk towards manually (wasd) an objective and press F to examine. the tactical cam could use some fix as well, as in a further zoom out.
might be too much to ask but if its possible, thank you
That's pretty much what we've been asking for. Fingers crossed we get it! 
If it only were so. However this thread is made for PC community by BW. I had to do own thread and try to maintain it cause they have been refusing to do it for old gen although I and couple others have requested it. This thread has 3 pages answers from BW. Any PS3 and XBOX360 thread in this forum has zero. Same on twitter and Answer EA, believe me, I have been tracking dev answers on twitter, here and Answer EA. However we got ignored completely, it's like talking to stone wall.
I don't think it's fair to say they are ignoring issues. It does seem to be that they arwe not responding. Same with this thread. Until last week we had no Bioware posts for 3 weeks or so.
This thread is for specifically the PC UI issues. Bugs, crash to desktop etc are common across all platforms. As someone said earlier, the PC port itself makes it difficult to use for some people on PC. People playing with controllers don't have these issues because the game was made for them.
And if you want ignored, well join the club. the marketing group running the DragonAge twitter account posted a picture asking which platform you play on. Only PS4 and XB1 were shown. You are preaching to the choir on that one.
To Brethgael
On the "values" thing, don't get me wrong people, I'm not opposed to taking a "progressive" stance when making a product (although you first have to define what constitutes progress, but that's another debate).
But the beauty(irony there) of marketing is that these values don't have to be "real" on the part of the company that is making the product: in a multi-billion company, you can have a whole department (10 people maybe) dedicated to analyzing "core values" of targeted customers, i.e. in this case the U.S. younger generation, if my analysis or educated guess is correct.
You use polls, statistics, mathematical models even..etc And then you try to build your product to attract this core target, while not alienating people who may think differently. The early screenings for Hollywood movies is a good example. That's why you get "Director's cut " versions of movies.
So whether or not the devs agreed with a value - political correctness for example-, is not really relevant. Provided that one EA or BW executive decided to use this kind of marketing tactics.
I have no proof. I'm just somebody who loves games and love literature and who happened to have drafted a lot of corporate bs in my time.
And to me these additions feel more like marketing practices than a strong "artistic" stance.
The result of this kind of practices is often a general decline in quality of entertainment products. It becomes more mainstream. Which is a good thing if you happen to like the mainstream values and practices. Using a controller in our case for example.
On a personal level I'm only 34 but I gracefully agree that I sound like an old Mediterranean farmer sometimes. 19th centuries values sthg like that. And I had a hand injury, so the "melee rogue dance" was not easy for me.
Modifié par Ashen nedra, 14 décembre 2014 - 12:36 .
Hey, we can start a club!
I'm 54 years young and been gaming since I programmed my ZX-81 so I could play Pong.
Wow, the ZX-81. That was my very first computer. I bought it second hand from a used electronics store and began to learn BASIC programming. lol
220+ pages of teh same people posting over and over again like here?
Why not go there and check yourself?
To Brethgael
On the "values" thing, don't get me wrong people, I'm not opposed to taking a "progressive" stance when making a product (although you first have to define what constitutes progress, but that's another debate).
But the beauty(irony there) of marketing is that these values don't have to be "real" on the part of the company that is making the product: in a multi-billion company, you can have a whole department (10 people maybe) dedicated to analyzing "core values" of targeted customers, i.e. in this case the U.S. younger generation, if my analysis or educated guess is correct.
You use polls, statistics, mathematical models even..etc And then you try to build your product to attract this core target, while not alienating people who may think differently. The early screenings for Hollywood movies is a good example. That's why you get "Director's cut " versions of movies.
So whether or not the devs agreed with a value - political correctness for example-, is not really relevant. Provided that one EA or BW executive decided to use this kind of marketing tactics.
I have no proof. I'm just somebody who loves games and love literature and who happened to have drafted a lot of corporate bs in my time.
And to me these additions feel more like marketing practices than a strong "artistic" stance.
The result of this kind of practices is often a general decline in quality of entertainment products. It becomes more mainstream. Which is a good thing if you happen to like the mainstream values and practices. Using a controller in our case for example.
On a personal level I'm only 34 but I gracefully agree that I sound like an old Mediterranean farmer sometimes.
I put more unserimoniale but games are marketed the same now as television which means everything is set as a 5 year old has to understand and that is on purpuse.
Yes adults get looked upon as 5 year olds and to be fair a lot of adults act that way too after years of treatment like that. So are games in decline quality like, yes they are, is it the fault of the devs, no. The devs have to adhere to the compagny strategy. Only the small independent devs can make quality adult content provided they have the money.
Unfortunetly games can mean big money gaine so the multi nationals get there clutches in there and it is levelled off to the lowest common denomeniator and they simply took the standard that was allready proven very succesfull = television.
Trown out my television years ago since I wasn't going to pay directly for that rubbish seems like in a little while be only gaming old owned games.
Thats progress into the future for you.
if they really adapt entertainment (tv/movies) business model to games, i might as well give up gaming altogether. more mature gamers see through that crappy marketing, less mature ones just follow it, like people did follow tv/movies when it was viable media. it doesn't work with RPGs; movies are not interactive. cut down the graphics bull*t and focus on the damn gameplay or just admit publicly you are doing action adventure with awesome cinematics
Ooh, but I'm older than that (48 looms ahead). That's why my ancient fingers cramp up on WASD after an hour or so...
(Still waiting for the character response in-game that allows me to yell at darkspawn to get off my lawn...)
Ha, since we are all showing our knickers now, I am 51 and my mouse hand has the problem with this game given the need to hold right mouse button to move. I do realize a lot of people are advocating the RMB+LMB to move but I personally never used that in DA:O opting for click to move instead as the constant mouse button holding does not work for my physiology. The WASD is easier for me, likely since I am very comfortable with that mechanic having played a ton of shooters.
Having said that, clearly one cannot please everybody all of the time. Best solution is to provide as many configurable options as possible and let the gamer decide. Never really understood why that is not the standard modus operendi for any system, obviously within reason but mapping keys and buttons to an action is a no brainer. I refuse to believe that the underlying engine has much to do with this.
For the record, I believe I have played a total of about 20 hours on consoles, mostly Wii. I have a controller for my PC, got it for Dark Souls but I just cannot get the hang of it and I guess I am too old and too stubborn to give it the time to get used to it, possibly my loss but it is what it is. DA:I is not at all what I expected it to be but that is not necessarily bad either, I do try to keep an open mind. One thing is clear, the sheer amount of work that went into this game is staggering. One thing that I do wish is for it to be mod enabled. I do not have the numbers but it would be interesting to know how many additional copies of Skyrim have been sold over the years due to the massive amount of community created mods available. That game, today, if fully modded is a completely different experience than vanilla version.
To each their own.
Do you see how friggen long the old gen thread is? You can't try and undermine our problems.
Your PC UI sucks donkey balls? Okay then.
We can't even play the damn game.
Both old gen, new gen, and PC have problems. All have people with crash issues, bug issues, UI issues, and plenty who outright can't play. This isn't a "Who got crapped on the most". All platforms are in need of attention that they should have gotten before anything was released.
And by replying to the PC thread, you're giving it more attention. Just so you know.
I was catching up over coffee, and am referencing the excellent points made by Brogan et al yesterday afternoon.
My game is running excellently, almost perfectly. I play for a couple hours a day. I keep stopping by this and other threads because that video still annoys me.
"Marketing" does not mean it's okay to lie. Look, it's not like it's just subjective, or some people just don't like the controls, or it works perfectly fine for some people. It was a flat-out lie by the head dude of the game with the purpose of deceiving players into buying the game based on the hype. You can spin it however; people shouldn't have bought on release, people should take the marketing with a grain of salt, there are bigger priorities, not everyone was involved in the video. Those are all true, but it was still a huge pile gleefully communicated and then ignored as if it was no big deal. Watch the video and then weigh the responses. Color me dramatic; integrity is important to me. I'm 42; I've seen a lot of marketing and hype and I know when things are blown out of proportion. This is not blowing, this is the greasy schmuckness of a car salesman.
I feel guilty when I sleep in late on the weekend, so the fact that no one is moved to apologize is ridiculous. Shackled by lawyers or not.
I love the game - I am going to go play it for a number of hours right now. I'm building an irrelevant and pointless dislike of the people in charge, which probably doesn't even register as a shame. They have my money, they will get my money again. Keeping quiet about this stupidity is probably not going to happen, though. Call it cathartic.
Learn at the knees.... arthritic though they may be... of those that have tromped before ye, Grasshopper...
I was catching up over coffee, and am referencing the excellent points made by Brogan et al yesterday afternoon.
My game is running excellently, almost perfectly. I play for a couple hours a day. I keep stopping by this and other threads because that video still annoys me.
"Marketing" does not mean it's okay to lie. Look, it's not like it's just subjective, or some people just don't like the controls, or it works perfectly fine for some people. It was a flat-out lie by the head dude of the game with the purpose of deceiving players into buying the game based on the hype. You can spin it however; people shouldn't have bought on release, people should take the marketing with a grain of salt, there are bigger priorities, not everyone was involved in the video. Those are all true, but it was still a huge pile gleefully communicated and then ignored as if it was no big deal. Watch the video and then weigh the responses. Color me dramatic; integrity is important to me. I'm 42; I've seen a lot of marketing and hype and I know when things are blown out of proportion. This is not blowing, this is the greasy schmuckness of a car salesman.
I feel guilty when I sleep in late on the weekend, so the fact that no one is moved to apologize is ridiculous. Shackled by lawyers or not.
I love the game - I am going to go play it for a number of hours right now. I'm building an irrelevant and pointless dislike of the people in charge, which probably doesn't even register as a shame. They have my money, they will get my money again. Keeping quiet about this stupidity is probably not going to happen, though. Call it cathartic.
Oh ... my ... god!
I could not watch more than half of that, the hypocrisy made me ill.
Both old gen, new gen, and PC have problems. All have people with crash issues, bug issues, UI issues, and plenty who outright can't play. This isn't a "Who got crapped on the most". All platforms are in need of attention that they should have gotten before anything was released.
And by replying to the PC thread, you're giving it more attention. Just so you know.
Speaking of ages. I turned 60 last summer and have been playing Bioware games since Baldur Gate. Even though I am retired I can only play a couple of hours a day.
Every new game have their particular keyboard commands. They always change. You get used to them. I do not use a controller at all. Tried to play a computer game on a Wii once, the attempt lasted about 10 minutes, could not get the hang of it.
I have a HP p6740f upgraded to Windows 8.1 Pro, with a GeForce GTX650Ti Boost graphic card (I had to upgrade the power supply of the desktop to a 50). My main problem was a DirectX issue which proved to have been an issue not related to the game programming at all. Solutions have been posted a couple of places in the forums.
I have version 1.0.0.3 (hotfix) installed - go to Program Files(x86)/Origin Games/Dragon Age Inquisition/_Installer/installerdata.xml to see which version you have.
The only issue I currently have is a freeze during long conversations. It can sometimes be a pain. Vivienne's introduction is so long it tend to freeze before the conversation wheel appears.
I would love to have auto-attack, click to move and click to loot back in the game. But if they don't put in back in... so be it. There are a lot of other issues to be addressed in future patches.
I think I'll change my avatar sometimes. Ashanaya, the Dalish Archer passed away a while back. Branden, her human male dual weald rogue lover is looking to avenge her.
I'm suspecting now the problem was with the engine. The walk toggle is a good example. In the previous engine, designed for PC gaming as well as consoles, presumably, there were 2 conditions to test for. On or off, walk or run. It seems in this engine, it's more like an accelerator. Problem is, the analog stick "accelerator" function doesn't translate to a keyboard. My guess is they couldn't get it working reliably so they dropped it for PC, until after release.
Most of the controls and UI components are mapped directly to a controller function. According to Wiki, Frostbite 3 supports PC gaming, so its looking like as you said, they ran out of time and slapped in a console control scheme for the PC version and made it work as best they could.
People shouldn't be surprised that they are focusing on the console version first anyway. I remember Laidlaw (I think) saying before DA2 that most of their sales of DAO were on the consoles so they were focusing their efforts on the console version.
Yet you can sprint in multiplayer by just holding the shift key or click on the left stick on the controller. Sprinting has it's own animation so why is it so hard to do the same thing with walking but reduce movement speed instead (and play walking animation) ?
But in your honest opinion, who did get scrapped on the most? Certainly not the PC or next gen players.
And who do I talk to, if no one from Bioware is saying anything on the old gen forum?
My honest opinion is that if you can't play and you are completely dissatisfied with the game you've spent your money on, then return the game and review it on multiple outlets for other gamers to read. Will Bioware read that review? Probably not, but then they aren't paying the forums that much mind either.
As for who is in the crappy boat, I've played 360 and PC versions. My only complaint for 360 was tiny text, but it worked flawlessly otherwise (mind you I only played up until Here Lies the Abyss). PC wise I've had some crashes and some grumps about controls. A few scenes were completely broken and required a reload. But both I can still play. One with repetition on reloads, the other with a magnifying glass.
Reinstalling and hopefully I can keep it from updating. I was happy before Bioware broke it.
I was catching up over coffee, and am referencing the excellent points made by Brogan et al yesterday afternoon.
My game is running excellently, almost perfectly. I play for a couple hours a day. I keep stopping by this and other threads because that video still annoys me.
"Marketing" does not mean it's okay to lie. Look, it's not like it's just subjective, or some people just don't like the controls, or it works perfectly fine for some people. It was a flat-out lie by the head dude of the game with the purpose of deceiving players into buying the game based on the hype. You can spin it however; people shouldn't have bought on release, people should take the marketing with a grain of salt, there are bigger priorities, not everyone was involved in the video. Those are all true, but it was still a huge pile gleefully communicated and then ignored as if it was no big deal. Watch the video and then weigh the responses. Color me dramatic; integrity is important to me. I'm 42; I've seen a lot of marketing and hype and I know when things are blown out of proportion. This is not blowing, this is the greasy schmuckness of a car salesman.
I feel guilty when I sleep in late on the weekend, so the fact that no one is moved to apologize is ridiculous. Shackled by lawyers or not.
I love the game - I am going to go play it for a number of hours right now. I'm building an irrelevant and pointless dislike of the people in charge, which probably doesn't even register as a shame. They have my money, they will get my money again. Keeping quiet about this stupidity is probably not going to happen, though. Call it cathartic.
Is anyone having this problem after the PC patches :
Controls, graphics and key mapping reverts to default when restarting the game. Origins In Game overlay is disabled as is cloud saving in the Origins setting. Game is saved before exiting.
Controls: controller vibration, post processing, ambient occlusion, post processing anti-aliasing and multi-anti-aliasing.
Its weird because this was happening before disabling Origins overlay now since the patches it is back. I think it is a coding error but...
Still cannot sprint - can anyone use the sprint option?
I only play it with the mouse and spacebar. I will sometimes use WASD to move around and explore if I want to absorb a vista but that's really rare. I hate the DAI UI with an unbridled passion. I guess I'm just not up in arms about it because I was convinced Bioware was going to ax it when they had the chance. I was shocked it was in DA2 at all.There are some interesting ones, like Advanced Tactics, Combat Tweaks, Rules Fixpack, certain magic enhancing mods, and anything that restores lost content or dialogue. HD textures and appearance stuff is subjective. There are some good convenience mods, too.
But ultimately, just try playing it with only the mouse and the spacebar.
The walk toggle is a minor issue, true, but I think that's rather the point. It's repeatedly brought up less because it's important, and more because it is simple.
Example:
A walk toggle should have been a quick addition that would give concrete evidence that Bioware is responding to player requests. Instead, we find out that they couldn't implement a simple walk toggle in the weeks they had to prepare the patch. That doesn't paint a very rosy picture. How can they get the PC UI up to scratch if they're already having problems?
There could be many reasons why they couldn't get the walk toggle ready, of course, but as Bioware won't tell us, we'll just have to come to our own conclusions.
I was catching up over coffee, and am referencing the excellent points made by Brogan et al yesterday afternoon.
My game is running excellently, almost perfectly. I play for a couple hours a day. I keep stopping by this and other threads because that video still annoys me.
"Marketing" does not mean it's okay to lie. Look, it's not like it's just subjective, or some people just don't like the controls, or it works perfectly fine for some people. It was a flat-out lie by the head dude of the game with the purpose of deceiving players into buying the game based on the hype. You can spin it however; people shouldn't have bought on release, people should take the marketing with a grain of salt, there are bigger priorities, not everyone was involved in the video. Those are all true, but it was still a huge pile gleefully communicated and then ignored as if it was no big deal. Watch the video and then weigh the responses. Color me dramatic; integrity is important to me. I'm 42; I've seen a lot of marketing and hype and I know when things are blown out of proportion. This is not blowing, this is the greasy schmuckness of a car salesman.
I feel guilty when I sleep in late on the weekend, so the fact that no one is moved to apologize is ridiculous. Shackled by lawyers or not.
I love the game - I am going to go play it for a number of hours right now. I'm building an irrelevant and pointless dislike of the people in charge, which probably doesn't even register as a shame. They have my money, they will get my money again. Keeping quiet about this stupidity is probably not going to happen, though. Call it cathartic.
I've maintained from the very start of all this that that video amounts to pure, false advertising.
Bioware should be made to account for how the game, on PC, differs so much from that PR. I've never before been so outraged at spending money on a PC game that's factually nothing like the game they made it out to be.
Bioware should be ashamed of themselves. There's absolutely no wonder Darrah makes himself absent from these forums, there's not a grain of integrity left in that man, at all.
Why Bioware couldn't add that functions is an open Q but I imagine people here would be very upset if they did that.
Sorry, I couldn't parse this line. Upset if they did what, exactly?
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