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#7426
MisterMannIndy

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Looking at this article, it seems Eurogamer is pretty confident about what platform DAI was designed for:
 
 
(According to Eurogamer)
"Dragon Age: Inquisition is an interesting release, then, as it marks the beginning of BioWare's new Frostbite 3 initiative and was designed first and foremost for the new console generation."
 
Apparently, WE didn'ty get this memo...or a different one.

 

We (as in PC Gamers) got the exact message the Marketing team wanted us to.  This is a business (public entity) who answers to Shareholders, not customers.  There is one thing that drives companies like this ... profits/stock price.  From a business perspective, the Marketing team did it's job by delivering a compelling message to the PC community.  


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We (as in PC Gamers) got the exact message the Marketing team wanted us to.  This is a business (public entity) who answers to Shareholders, not customers.  There is one thing that drives companies like this ... profits/stock price.  From a business perspective, the Marketing team did it's job by delivering a compelling message to the PC community.  

 

While this is exactly true, it sounds too much like an excuse to be palatable to me.  Marketing is about generating excitement and desire for a product.  When it crosses over the line into deceit and lies, you can't claim overenthusiasm (not that YOU are) or good business practices.  This is when it should become a discussion internally about short-term gain versus long-term growth.  You can blow your whole wad of trust and customer buy-in at the same time you rake in the dough.  I'm not claiming Bioware did; that is an impossible metric to determine until the next release.  It may have affected exactly nothing, it may have cut PC sales in half.  I'm annoyed, I still play the game, I use a controller, and I will buy Bioware games in the future.  I'm not making threats, I'm just making my displeasure known (here, pointlessly).


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While this is exactly true, it sounds too much like an excuse to be palatable to me.  Marketing is about generating excitement and desire for a product.  When it crosses over the line into deceit and lies, you can't claim overenthusiasm (not that YOU are) or good business practices.  This is when it should become a discussion internally about short-term gain versus long-term growth.  You can blow your whole wad of trust and customer buy-in at the same time you rake in the dough.  I'm not claiming Bioware did; that is an impossible metric to determine until the next release.  It may have affected exactly nothing, it may have cut PC sales in half.  I'm annoyed, I still play the game, I use a controller, and I will buy Bioware games in the future.  I'm not making threats, I'm just making my displeasure known (here, pointlessly).

hmm... i'm not so sure about that part.

if i want something, i buy it. if the quality of this product, which i really want, is below my expectations (and those are formed by promotional materials, reviews), i'm not buying it again because i don't trust the manufacturer anymore.

now, if a person had a problem with ME3 and/or DA2 yet still bought DA:I, then this changes nothing, because that person probably will buy the next game.

 

i never had problem with DA2 - it had its flaws but i really did enjoyed it (i got it after it was patched, because i forgot about plaing games for a while); this is different - i was hyped by untrue information (promotional materials, reviews), i paid the price and i feel cheated, even tho i understand the restraints of tight schedule, new engine and all that. if they don't fix this (patch), i will not buy another game from BW/EA. i'm not angry - just amused at this point.


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While this is exactly true, it sounds too much like an excuse to be palatable to me.  Marketing is about generating excitement and desire for a product.  When it crosses over the line into deceit and lies, you can't claim overenthusiasm (not that YOU are) or good business practices.  This is when it should become a discussion internally about short-term gain versus long-term growth.  You can blow your whole wad of trust and customer buy-in at the same time you rake in the dough.  I'm not claiming Bioware did; that is an impossible metric to determine until the next release.  It may have affected exactly nothing, it may have cut PC sales in half.  I'm annoyed, I still play the game, I use a controller, and I will buy Bioware games in the future.  I'm not making threats, I'm just making my displeasure known (here, pointlessly).

 

I stopped buying Rockstar games, and unless Bioware manages to turn this situation around real quick, I will simply stop buying their games, too.

I will not be fooled by their marketing again. 

It is a matter of principle with me that when I get lied to and coerced into buying a product based on false premise, I simply stop buying product from that company. And I'm sure I am not the only one.

Bioware would be very foolish if they think their brand is immune to tarnish. It is not.


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#7430
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My game was working just fine pre-patch, now I'm lucky to get 5-10 minutes (15 if I'm really, really lucky) before the game crashes. This is ridiculous, and I can't even make it through a ******* cutscene without crashing. You guys won GOTY. I understand why from a storyline point of view, but honestly? That all kind of becomes null and void when I have to skip through cutscenes, and go directly to the fighting just so I can save my game before it crashes. I've tried everything on PC to fix this and I seriously hope you intend to release another patch soon to counter this issue because I've reached my limit in frustrastion. 



#7431
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FYI, that the companions are downright affected with Parkinson isn't new - has been since launch.

And? I didn't say they weren't, I said it was made worse with Patch 2 because they for some reason made orders clear when you switch to tactical view. So giving order, then zooming out will clear the order. That particular change is new.



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Can we have an update please Bioware?

We need to know what will be fixed in the next patch and an approximate date so we can plan our games.
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#7433
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True enough. But it nags and nags at you to update =/

HU?

 

I see nothing but the game



#7434
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HU?

 

I see nothing but the game

 

No when you're trying to play. It won't let you until you've updated to the latest version.



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Err... Divinity: Original Sin...?

I was thinking about it.. Are you hinting it has the same unintuitive game controls?



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My game was working just fine pre-patch, now I'm lucky to get 5-10 minutes (15 if I'm really, really lucky) before the game crashes. This is ridiculous, and I can't even make it through a ******* cutscene without crashing. You guys won GOTY. I understand why from a storyline point of view, but honestly? That all kind of becomes null and void when I have to skip through cutscenes, and go directly to the fighting just so I can save my game before it crashes. I've tried everything on PC to fix this and I seriously hope you intend to release another patch soon to counter this issue because I've reached my limit in frustrastion. 

Try this putting in the game properties "-GameTime.MaxSimFps 60 -GameTime.ForceSimRate 60+".  This makes the cutscenes run at 60fps insted of 30fps.  That solved the cpu overheating for me, so no game crashes any more.



#7437
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still have the following quirks in the game(think im at patch 2 + the fix for it);

 

 

i play mostly in tactics mode

-ctd 's ocasionaly (no errors no messages and nothing in event log)

-cant select a character in tactics mode. sometimes alt tabbing works sometimes have to load a save.

-cant cast spells with a char, the char just goes on doing what its doing and wont cast(tactics mode)

-yesterday i did imshael and the fight slowed down like imoen had cast timestop or something.

           after a few minuts everything speeded up again to normal speed.

           chars didnt cast spells you ordered, and everything was very very slow motion up to a point i thought i would crash or at least never finish

-the tactics mode sucks big time compared to dragon age origins. like you got 3 idiots with you.

  even a simple hold position doesnt work. i mean come on........when i order hold, just stay where you are. how hard is that to program?

 

funny thing is is still like the game and play it a lot 8-)

The basic game is mindblowing i think, if they just would fix the little quirks

 

intel core i7 975 @4ghz

6gig tripple channel mem kingston hyperx at 1600mhz

asus rampage 2 mobo

msi nvidia 590 video

ocz revodrive ssd split in 80 gig for winddows 7 c: and 150 for games d:(both have  30gig or more  free space)

2 wd velocy raptors in raid0 for the rest (like swap file and temp files and stuff)

Try removing Origins-in-game Overlay. I read somewhere about Origins and DAI vying for control of the GPU.



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This game seems to be power hungry at the moment. "Windows kernel mode has crashed and recovered" has provoqued many cutscene freezes. 

 

Have you tried to change the power plan from Balanced to High Performance ?

 

Even saw a partial solution on the Microsoft Community forum from March 2010 that could help:

 

right click on my computer, go to property, then in the left margin select: advanced system settings, third tab called "Advanced" First Option: Performance click on "settings", select "adjust for performance". That will uncheck everything. Then you keep the tabs "smooth edges on screen fonts" and "smooth scrolls" list boxes if you want the webpages text to look the way they should.

 

That is under System and advanced system settings for Windows 8.

 

Hope this will help. It did for me. And, in a way, is not game programming related.



#7439
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Seeing as they tried to implement a walk button for patch 2 but had to remove it because it wasn't working properly, I wouldn't hold up much hope for a proper PC control scheme and UI. Although I'd very much like to be proven wrong.

I'm sure Bio is reviewing the PC issues including possible unwanted cross-platform negative domino effects. They must be very carefull to avoid that at all costs. Patch 3 will arrive when it is ready. I just hope it will have at least the auto-attack and DA2 kb+m controls....



#7440
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No when you're trying to play. It won't let you until you've updated to the latest version.

I saw an option "update or do you want to continue?" when launching the game... This is what you are referring to?



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I saw an option "update or do you want to continue?" when launching the game... This is what you are referring to?

 

I didn't get the want to continue choice. I had update, play and when I picked play it said I couldn't til I updated.



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So I can't help but compare Ubisoft's response to their problematic Unity launch and how responsive and public they are with their communication with fans. I mean, they have just released patch 4! 

 

And now I saw an article saying Ubisoft is going to be giving away free DLC as a peace offering: http://www.gamespot....i/1100-6423844/

 

I wonder how Bioware will respond to their fans....most likely just continue to lie to us and ignore us?


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So I can't help but compare Ubisoft's response to their problematic Unity launch and how responsive and public they are with their communication with fans. I mean, they have just released patch 4! 

 

And now I saw an article saying Ubisoft is going to be giving away free DLC as a peace offering: http://www.gamespot....i/1100-6423844/

 

I wonder how Bioware will respond to their fans....most likely just continue to lie to us and ignore us?

 

BioWare will maintain their impeccable track record for <ignore> [forum.bioware.com] </ignore> while indulging in delusion of Game of the Year grandeur.


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BioWare will maintain their impeccable track record for <ignore> [forum.bioware.com] </ignore> while indulging in delusion of Game of the Year grandeur.

I honestly have no idea how this has game of the year. It's like the voters didn't even load the multiplayer. 


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Question: Of those who can play the game, anyone else f*cking hate the codex's interface? It's "bad" enough the loadings don't give enough time to read the ones that appear on loading screens (and whoever designed decided it was better not to ask for confirmation before leaving the screen, for some reason), but whenever I feel like looking up a particular entry I take one look at this great design where you are just shown a bunch of images and have to hover over them individually until you find what you're looking for and just think "why".

Hell, it's not even a "console interface" problem, in fact, i'd argue it's even more annoying with a controller. At least put the title of the entries over the images, I dunno. Who thought of this? :<


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#7446
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So I can't help but compare Ubisoft's response to their problematic Unity launch and how responsive and public they are with their communication with fans. I mean, they have just released patch 4! 

 

And now I saw an article saying Ubisoft is going to be giving away free DLC as a peace offering: http://www.gamespot....i/1100-6423844/

 

I wonder how Bioware will respond to their fans....most likely just continue to lie to us and ignore us?

Now that's a bit of an overkill, isn't it? DAI isn't nearly as broken as Unity and is a more complex game. And they fixed many things in Patch 2. There are certainly plenty of things one can rightfully complain about, but I wouldn't accuse them of a straight up lie. Not post-launch anyway. And neither are they completely ignoring us.



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I was thinking about it.. Are you hinting it has the same unintuitive game controls?

Yes and more... better UI!



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BioWare will maintain their impeccable track record for <ignore> [forum.bioware.com] </ignore> while indulging in delusion of Game of the Year grandeur.

The only thing is that it will win GotY in some cases and is not a delusion at all.



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How is it sad a game you didn't like is going to get awards? Is it sad when a kid you don't like at school gets a good grade despite you thinking his paper was bad? This opinion that Bioware needs to hang their head in shame as well as be publicly ridiculed for this game due to the vocal minority (mainly only in this section, and largely this thread) disliking design decisions as well as having bugs is pretty funny.

 

Actually, what is sad is you having to chime in and defend poor design and outright contempt by a company who isn't even paying you, to people who you seem not to realize don't care that you liked the game.

 

And please, for the love of god, stop using your favorite phrase vocal minority.  If you had any sense of awareness you'd see there is yet another first poster to the thread voicing these same concerns just one page previous.
 


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how do i remove the overlay?