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#7476
shushNMD

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I'm mainly surprised the console community finds the AI acceptable. Really the UI sucks big hairy monkey balls, but I can work around that I managed Witcher 2 just fine. But that god awfull AI, I started as a mage first (wanted to go knight enchanter, but it took to long as a regular mage hehe). So I figured hey I'll go rogue, sneaking and backstabbing mages is like a hobby for me (and tempest looks awsome)... yeah no the AI is just to shitty. You may aswell give up on your ranged being well... ranged. This game would be perfectly playable, if it didn't have a party concept. I tried again today, but damnit if I wanna babysit I'll go and make some money of it in real life.

 

I didn't find AI that bad. Most of the time I don't even touch controls (except for f1-f4), the party do very well on their own.I just collect rewards after the fight is over. The only thing that needed my intervention was a dragon fight. That's when I decided to stop playing untill they fix UI, or TacCam, or anything at all really.  



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Why are they releasing new DLCs when they haven't even patched the existing issues??


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#7478
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They tried to copy a lot from Skyrim. But if you're gonna borrow ideas from other games, make sure you get the good ones.

 

Have anyone here played Fable 3? This game here have an almost identical concept. And suffers from almost identical problems Fable 3 suffered from... 


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#7479
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Why are they releasing new DLCs when they haven't even patched the existing issues??

 

Money GOTY


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#7480
Captain Wiseass

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Why are they releasing new DLCs when they haven't even patched the existing issues??

Different teams working separately. They should delay releasing one group's work because another group isn't finished with theirs yet?


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#7481
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The new DLC was both free and multiplayer.  Let's not invent issues.  There're plenty of legit ones to pick from.


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#7482
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Why are they releasing new DLCs when they haven't even patched the existing issues??


Scheduling. I expect that DLC has been on the development calendar for at least six months.
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#7483
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300 pages and still no LOVE : ( : (



#7484
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I would encourage people to take advantage of PC Gamer's offer to send them details on any PC gaming issues you want mentioned: https://twitter.com/...194416873668608

 

I wish it didn't have to come to this, Bioware!

done


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#7485
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Scheduling. I expect that DLC has been on the development calendar for at least six months.

 

Yup.  DAI's problems are nowhere near "Drop EVERYTHING and fix this" like, say, the ME3 ending was.


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Yup.  DAI's problems are nowhere near "Drop EVERYTHING and fix this" like, say, the ME3 ending was.

I liked ME3's ending till I got there.


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I didn't find AI that bad. Most of the time I don't even touch controls (except for f1-f4), the party do very well on their own.I just collect rewards after the fight is over. The only thing that needed my intervention was a dragon fight. That's when I decided to stop playing untill they fix UI, or TacCam, or anything at all really.  

 

So basically you bruteforced it untill you really needed your party, at least thats what I'm understanding from your post.

 

I could probably do that for most of the game I guess.



#7488
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DAI is my GOTY, I think it's deserved.

And Bioware is your Developer of the year?

Your loyalties are very clear. The name of this topic is "PC Community Concerns", not "Bioware Apologist Forum"


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300 pages and still no LOVE : ( : (

There's plenty of love where it is relevant. Call your gf and invite her over for example XD

This is a thread for people to rant. And with good reason. No place for love in here.


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#7490
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hmm... i'm not so sure about that part.

if i want something, i buy it. if the quality of this product, which i really want, is below my expectations (and those are formed by promotional materials, reviews), i'm not buying it again because i don't trust the manufacturer anymore.

now, if a person had a problem with ME3 and/or DA2 yet still bought DA:I, then this changes nothing, because that person probably will buy the next game.

 

i never had problem with DA2 - it had its flaws but i really did enjoyed it (i got it after it was patched, because i forgot about plaing games for a while); this is different - i was hyped by untrue information (promotional materials, reviews), i paid the price and i feel cheated, even tho i understand the restraints of tight schedule, new engine and all that. if they don't fix this (patch), i will not buy another game from BW/EA. i'm not angry - just amused at this point.

Indeed. After EA Games' DRM crap re: The Sims 2 (long story short, it was added after they said they wouldn't be doing it, halfway through EP releases, it was on disk, it acted like a Trojan, and it actually broke some computer systems) I decided that I was never buying a game from EA again. I warned my friends about SimCity's likely breakages and watched as they did their dough.

I had a single exception: DA2, because it was from Bioware (I did buy it at a discount, a while after release. Sophistry, but there you go).

Again, I made a deliberate exception for DA:I. After doing as much research as I could (watching all the twitch feeds, being a part of Keep beta, etc), I actually preordered the game. Even with the Australia tax. I never do that.

I will admit Greg Ellis going into studio was a factor. Good voice actors make very good characters. Just... I didn't say that out loud.

Sorry, guys, not happening again. Bugs, I'm okay with. Patches will come. Story issues? I understand, budgets stretch only so far. Having to pay for DLC that was deliberately stripped from the Vanilla game to sell? Bloody irritating, and takes the heart out of gaming, but okay, you have to make a buck. Having to be online for a SP game? Just... actually. No. I said no to that one. Because eff you, that's why. I have MMOs. I'll play them online, thanks.

Oh, geez. Can you see how low my expectations actually are? 10 years ago, I would never have been half okay with most of that.

But don't ever mislead me. I don't care if a corporation is answering to shareholders: you do your shareholders no favours, at all, by alienating your shareholders' customer base by saying things, while marketing, that turn out to be absolute bulldust at release. Sure, the shareholders got my money this time--but you've just denied them all future sales that might have gone to them, from me.

"Corporate interests" and "shareholders blah blah" do not excuse shoddy business practice. In fact, it should make corporations more responsible to know they're responsible for the income of many (both shareholders and employees), not less responsible.

As it is, they've lost upwards of $1000 from all of the past Sims 3, and future Sims 4 game and EPs they have not sold me (and probably would have) as a result of the original lie "we will not add DRM to The Sims 2". That's just to start. I never bought the ME games because I also decided, "no new (for me) franchises, even from Bioware." The good news is, I'm okay with that. I completely modded out my S2 game so it's now a totally medieval environment. Better than uncanny valley claymation any day. ;)

Yay mods!

ETA: My 22 year-old son dropped by last night and asked me if he should buy DA:I on PC (his housemate has it and it seems to be fine for her--although she is using a controller on PC because she couldn't stand the KB&M--and it has started crashing for her after Patch 2). I said "unless they fix the UI/KB & M and the stability's improved, wait until it price drops."

He watched me play for a while and agreed. He is a console gamer, as well (his thumbs are properly sized! :D ), but even he is not prepared to do as his housemate did. "console and PC are different experiences, mum. They're supposed to be. PC should be better, not worse."

This from a member of the "console generation".

I'm so proud. :D


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#7491
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My 'Concern' for the 'PC Community Concerns' is that there is NO 'Concern' left for the 'PC Community Concerns'  any longer.  And it 'Concerns' me. :wacko: Am I just being overly 'Concerned'?


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#7492
Vash654

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There's plenty of love where it is relevant. Call your gf and invite her over for example XD

This is a thread for people to rant. And with good reason. No place for love in here.

I meant from the devs >.<



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There's plenty of love where it is relevant. Call your gf and invite her over for example XD

This is a thread for people to rant. And with good reason. No place for love in here.

Bioware loves us. Hard. No lotion style.


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#7494
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Well they took ours money and they are happy. I don't know what happened to this company. For sure its only title left. Game has no connection with good RPG like DA:Origins. New team without experience and talent and we have got Inquisition.  Superb. Few sec ago i got CoD after 30 minutes of play. Great game...

 

Mages all time have the same mana level. Skills are totally incurious, combat system is a crying shame, maximum 8 active skills... They need only to transfer old battle system from Origins, but no, we are so damn good megaminds... in destroying good mark/product.



#7495
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Why are they releasing new DLCs when they haven't even patched the existing issues??

 

Did you look at this DLC???

 

It's a shallow, MP-only sack of nothingness.

 

For +$10 you get the optional extras ... that are already in the game (if you bought the Delux upgrade.)

 

So they've really announced a DLC that contains nothing new =D


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#7496
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And Bioware is your Developer of the year?

Your loyalties are very clear. The name of this topic is "PC Community Concerns", not "Bioware Apologist Forum"

Can... can I pick DA: I as my game of the year and still not like how Bioware is handling its release and the issues it came with? Am I allowed that?

I won't, of course - I still liked Shadow of Mordor more - but you seem to be the guy to ask about these things, with your fair assessments of people's behavior and totally not jumping to conclusions based on a single sentence. ;)


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#7497
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And Bioware is your Developer of the year?

Your loyalties are very clear. The name of this topic is "PC Community Concerns", not "Bioware Apologist Forum"

Would "BioWare Hate Forum" be more accurate? Because that's what this is really about. According to some people in this thread, Inquisition was the last straw. BioWare has burned them far too many times now. So I honestly don't know what some of you are expecting from future patches. Do you want to salvage what you can from Inquisition so it's not a total loss? I suspect that if BioWare completely overhauled the game and made it the best PC game ever, it would still be "too little too late".



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Did you look at this DLC???

 

It's a shallow, MP-only sack of nothingness.

 

For +$10 you get the optional extras ... that are already in the game (if you bought the Delux upgrade.)

 

So they've really announced a DLC that contains nothing new =D

Yes, I was going to say, it's not "new" DLC at all. I already have it for buying deluxe. I'll never use it, either, unless Brogan or someone wants to Multiplay after they've fixed everything. Not big on MP in my SP games.

(I am not against MP. I'm a GM of a WoW Guild, so... can't be ;) )


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#7499
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Would "BioWare Hate Forum" be more accurate? Because that's what this is really about. According to some people in this thread, Inquisition was the last straw. BioWare has burned them far too many times now. So I honestly don't know what some of you are expecting from future patches. Do you want to salvage what you can from Inquisition so it's not a total loss? I suspect that if BioWare completely overhauled the game and made it the best PC game ever, it would still be "too little too late".

Yeah. I get that this is a thread for venting and that some people are frustrated with how the game turned out to be, but some people really should go to a dictionary and read the definition of "impartial". Or "overreacting". :P



#7500
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Yeah. I get that people this is a thread for venting and that some people are frustrated with how the game turned out to be, but some people really should go to a dictionary and read the definition of "impartial". Or "overreacting". :P

 

Dont know why some people defend this low skill team.of game programmers  Thy have what deserved.

 

Smart and intelligent people learn from own mistakes. So...


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