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[Brogan]

Just tested this ingame, working perfectly, doesn't interfere with dialogue or combat. Not sure about long term stability, but looks like my Qunari can FINALLY attend the ball! Thanks for this

 

This is such a laugh, over a month post-release and still no walk toggle, yet someone makes a mod for an "unmoddable" engine with a walk toggle. Heh

 

I briefly scanned the thread.  Is it linked to an existing keymap button that can be remapped in the DAI menu?  Or did they link it to a non-standard key (that would not be eventually able to be mouse-mapped)?

[Jackal19851111]

The mod uses the C key.

 

Right now I currently trying to figure out how to edit the script and make it use the Z key instead, just a minor personal touch as the mod itself is great! It feels SO GOOD to FINALLY be able to walk around and absorb the environment! Not to mention I don't have to limp forward while indoors/banters/dialogue/cliffs anymore. I'll test this for a few hours after work and see if it's stable enough for long gameplay.

 

EDIT: Ok I got it working using the Z key, a key I reserved for the toggle once it arrived. Not so sure if you can map it to a mouse however, as I used this for reference when I edited the script:

 

http://www.mods.com....l Key Codes.htm

[Dinkledorf]

One thing the script does currently do is switch to run (when in walk) if two movement directional keys are pressed at the same time. 

[CRCError1970]

Your avatar picture says everything about you. 

That was totally uncalled for.

[shushNMD]

That was totally uncalled for.

 

I wonder what our avatar picture says about us

[glosoli]

I wonder what our avatar picture says about us

 

Corvo the Assassin?

[BobaFett]

I think too many people had/have assumptions about what this game was supposed to deliver on the gameplay front, especially comparing it to the previous titles.

 

The controls of the game and whatever features included seem all perfectly fine to me on PC. I expected nothing more. I expected no super tactical overlay or auto-attacking or mouse-clicking movement or anything like that. Why? Because it seemed blatantly obvious that Bioware was moving towards ME style action-rpg settings, rather than back to DA:O style.

 

This is no longer a traditional RPG in any way. DA:I is a combination of Witcher 2/Skyrim with many features and ideas taken from both, as-well as a general feel of Mass Effect to it.

 

Comparing DA:I to DA:O or DA2 is pointless in a sense that they are almost nothing alike anymore. Forget the gameplay of previous titles, take the storyline but consider DA:I to be a completely stand-alone, different genre game entirely. Less disappointment that way.

 

then don't post here.  This forum is for PC COMMUNITY CONCERNS.  If you have no concerns and feel the game is perfect, then why are you here telling people that their concerns are unfounded??!! 

 

Just to further how ridiculous, just about everything you post is, if this game is "supposed" to be like skyrim and the witcher 2, then they did a really bad job of emulating them because its worse than both!  Then you go on to say how its blatantly obvious that they are trying to make this game just like ME.   Here's a novel idea for Bioware, and other mindless zombies like you....BE ORIGINAL.  Come up with your own ideas, stop trying to be something different than what made it an amazing game series in the first place....jesus.  

 

And then to top it all off, according to you, we have to pretend the game is something different just To have "less disappointment" in it.....   Do you actually read what you post or are you one of those speak first, think later mongoloids??  Thats rhetorical BTW...

 

Get over yourself and go play your perfect game rather than telling us that we have no reason to not like the game....sigh.   WOW, unreal....  Thanks to you my faith in humanity has lowered just a bit.

[shushNMD]

Corvo the Assassin?

That is a definite +1

But I was referring to a scull in general...

[Brogan]

then don't post here.  This forum is for PC COMMUNITY CONCERNS.  If you have no concerns and feel the game is perfect, then why are you here telling people that their concerns are unfounded??!! 

 

Just to further how ridiculous, just about everything you post is, if this game is "supposed" to be like skyrim and the witcher 2, then they did a really bad job of emulating them because its worse than both!  Then you go on to say how its blatantly obvious that they are trying to make this game just like ME.   Here's a novel idea for Bioware, and other mindless zombies like you....BE ORIGINAL.  Come up with your own ideas, stop trying to be something different than what made it an amazing game series in the first place....jesus.  

 

And then to top it all off, according to you, we have to pretend the game is something different just so have "less disappointment" in it.....   Do you actually read what you post or are you one of those speak first, think later mongoloids??  Thats rhetorical BTW...

 

Get over yourself and go play your perfect game rather than telling us that we have no reason to not like the game....sigh.   WOW, unreal....  Thanks to you my faith in humanity has lowered just a bit.

 

[superkoolstud]

Too many to read through so I will just post my initial findings from what I have played.

 

Movement (Outside of Tactical View)

 

WSAD
Should ALWAYS BE DEFAULTED to Forward/Backward/Left Strafe/Right Strafe. I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to make A & D utilize camera turning. 

 

Clicking to move
This is useful in numerous situations. It makes looting and collecting resources far easier.

 

Holding LMB & RMB to move

Mouse driving is just easier when going long distances.

 

Combat (Outside of Tactical View)

 

Attacking

Holding the LMB down to attack gets in the way of the other control schemes. It should be removed entirely or made into a toggle option. Instead you should be able to use the RMB to initiate an auto-attack.

 

 

Tactical View

Zoom

Zoom Distance is way too close. We need to see much more of the battlefield. The Cap on zoom distance need to be raised. I should be able to see all of my enemies and characters at once.

 

Mouse Wheel

Mouse Wheel should be used for different levels of Zoom. Only once you go PAST THE MAX zoom distance should it open up Tactical View

 

Camera Pan

WSAD Should be default for panning the camera. You should also be able to pan the camera by moving the mouse cursor to the screen edge.

 

Target Cursor

The cursor for targeting should be attached/anchored to your mouse cursor.

 

Movement [BUG]

Currently you can use the RMB to initiate movement orders. Problem is the detection isn't very good. I usually have to double click to get the game to recognize a movement command. After which it will recognize single RMB clicks for that character during his current selection.

 

 

Map Screen

 

WSAD should be utilized to pan the map.
 

Menu [Bug]

 

Sometimes WSAD takes over as the only selection method with Enter to accept the selection.

 

 

Im sure there are more, but the controls feel so broken that KB/M is not a viable method to play the game.

[Frenrihr]

I think too many people had/have assumptions about what this game was supposed to deliver on the gameplay front, especially comparing it to the previous titles.

 

The controls of the game and whatever features included seem all perfectly fine to me on PC. I expected nothing more. I expected no super tactical overlay or auto-attacking or mouse-clicking movement or anything like that. Why? Because it seemed blatantly obvious that Bioware was moving towards ME style action-rpg settings, rather than back to DA:O style.

 

This is no longer a traditional RPG in any way. DA:I is a combination of Witcher 2/Skyrim with many features and ideas taken from both, as-well as a general feel of Mass Effect to it.

 

Comparing DA:I to DA:O or DA2 is pointless in a sense that they are almost nothing alike anymore. Forget the gameplay of previous titles, take the storyline but consider DA:I to be a completely stand-alone, different genre game entirely. Less disappointment that way.

 

 

 

 

You are not supposed to have quite the same flexibility as in previous games. Just because it's in the same line of games, doesn't mean it has be so very similar. Yes, many people want it to be like DA:O where you had so much more control over anything, but face it - the game is an Action RPG now, not a traditional isometric/tactical/strategical RPG.

 

That's the direction they have gone. It's not really a bad thing unless you desperately wanted the old style back and considered it superior. I for one don't. Playing Origins even after DA2 felt clunky. And Inqusition makes things ever more fluid and responsive, which I like. 

 

DA:I is much more like Mass Effect now. You have control over your party, but it is less about micro-managing everything during a fight and more about giving general direction to direct the flow of the battle and instead controlling your own character.

 

Because you are a fanboy.

[Dubya75]

http://forum.cheaten...d4e975ba7c5e9ff

Someone find a way to "trigger" that action for mouse+keybard user since it was already coded for gamepad on pc.

 

Seems like you have to be a rocket scientist to be able to use cheat engine. I have the program installed as well as the script, but anyone have any clear instructions on how to actually use it, please?

 

[edit]

 

Nevermind, I figured it out!

[the_pepper]

then don't post here.  This forum is for PC COMMUNITY CONCERNS.  If you have no concerns and feel the game is perfect, then why are you here telling people that their concerns are unfounded??!! 

 

Just to further how ridiculous, just about everything you post is, if this game is "supposed" to be like skyrim and the witcher 2, then they did a really bad job of emulating them because its worse than both!  Then you go on to say how its blatantly obvious that they are trying to make this game just like ME.   Here's a novel idea for Bioware, and other mindless zombies like you....BE ORIGINAL.  Come up with your own ideas, stop trying to be something different than what made it an amazing game series in the first place....jesus.  

 

And then to top it all off, according to you, we have to pretend the game is something different just so have "less disappointment" in it.....   Do you actually read what you post or are you one of those speak first, think later mongoloids??  Thats rhetorical BTW...

 

Get over yourself and go play your perfect game rather than telling us that we have no reason to not like the game....sigh.   WOW, unreal....  Thanks to you my faith in humanity has lowered just a bit.

Oh man, this is getting a bit tiring isn't it? Yeah, you're probably right and he should leave, after all no way can someone like a game and still have issues with it. No no, as we all know every game is perfect, unless it has at least a single flaw - then it's horrible and the worst thing to spawn from human consciousness since Nazism. How dare people who play and mostly enjoy the game on pc come to the "pc community concerns" thread and voice their concerns?

Seriously though: Look, unless one is a masochist\idiot, they wouldn't come here without having a single issue with the game or being on the fence and wanting to know what issues people have with it. I'm sure most people that comment here do have issues. It doesn't mean that everyone must absolutely loathe the game in its entirety and that anyone defending part\most of it is a fanboy\apologist\whatever. Nor does it mean that everybody must like and dislike the exact same things about it.

EDIT: Also, I don't completely agree with Archie's interpretation of what the game is supposed to be - though I do wonder about the reasoning behind deciding to make the "open world" areas the way they did, to me the narrative and exploration aspects seem a bit disconnected from each other. But that is nevertheless his interpretation of it and he seems to enjoy that aspect of the game, who are you to say he shouldn't?

TL;DR: People have tastes and preferences. Deal with it.

[TobyJake]

Oh man, this is getting a bit tiring isn't it? Yeah, you're probably right and he should leave, after all no way can someone like a game and still have issues with it. No no, as we all know every game is perfect, unless it has at least a single flaw - then it's horrible and the worst thing to spawn from human consciousness since Nazism. How dare people who play and mostly enjoy the game on pc come to the "pc community concerns" thread and voice their concerns?

Seriously though: Look, unless one is a masochist\idiot, they wouldn't come here without having a single issue with the game or being on the fence and wanting to know what issues people have with it. I'm sure most people that comment here do have issues. It doesn't mean that everyone must absolutely loathe the game in its entirety and that anyone defending part\most of it is a fanboy\apologist\whatever. Nor does it mean that everybody must like and dislike the exact same things about it.

EDIT: Also, I don't completely agree with Archie's interpretation of what the game is supposed to be - though I do wonder about the reasoning behind deciding to make the "open world" areas the way they did, to me the narrative and exploration aspects seem a bit disconnected from each other. But that is nevertheless his interpretation of it and he seems to enjoy that aspect of the game, who are you to say he shouldn't?

TL;DR: People have tastes and preferences. Deal with it.

What was the point of this post? Just taking up space?

[the_pepper]

Just as pointless as two thirds of the posts on this thread, I'd say.

[bdipauly]

Because you are a fanboy.

That's because Bioware are awesome!!

[Brogan]

Tactical View

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Camera Pan

WSAD Should be default for panning the camera. You should also be able to pan the camera by moving the mouse cursor to the screen edge.

 

I still don't get why people are arguing to keep this Console-inspired system when it's not necessary at all on PC.  WASD should never be required for CAMERA MANIPULATION.  Period.

 

You know how the camera works in Action Cam?  THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD WORK IN TAC CAM.

 

They could easily take it out of the pc version, and everything would be perfectly fine.  Add edge scrolling, and you have Origins *in* Inquisition!

[BobaFett]

Oh man, this is getting a bit tiring isn't it? Yeah, you're probably right and he should leave, after all no way can someone like a game and still have issues with it. No no, as we all know every game is perfect, unless it has at least a single flaw - then it's horrible and the worst thing to spawn from human consciousness since Nazism. How dare people who play and mostly enjoy the game on pc come to the "pc community concerns" thread and voice their concerns?

Seriously though: Look, unless one is a masochist\idiot, they wouldn't come here without having a single issue with the game or being on the fence and wanting to know what issues people have with it. I'm sure most people that comment here do have issues. It doesn't mean that everyone must absolutely loathe the game in its entirety and that anyone defending part\most of it is a fanboy\apologist\whatever. Nor does it mean that everybody must like and dislike the exact same things about it.

EDIT: Also, I don't completely agree with Archie's interpretation of what the game is supposed to be - though I do wonder about the reasoning behind deciding to make the "open world" areas the way they did, to me the narrative and exploration aspects seem a bit disconnected from each other. But that is nevertheless his interpretation of it and he seems to enjoy that aspect of the game, who are you to say he shouldn't?

TL;DR: People have tastes and preferences. Deal with it.

Are you mentally challenged?  again, rhetorical.....   I have ZERO, i repeat, ZERO issues with people that like/love/worship the game.  Thats great, i'm am happy for them and i will NEVER go into one of the threads of people praising the game and try to convince them otherwise.  I'm glad they are satisfied with their purchase, however I am not.

 

What I do is go into the PC COMMUNITY CONCERNS thread to voice my CONCERNS with the the game.  Its a bit ridiculous for people that have ZERO concerns (at least he hasn't voiced any concerns, just argued with those that do...) with the game to come here and try to convince others that DO have concerns that we shouldn't or they are unfounded.  Thats absolutely asinine.  If you have concerns but generally like the game Great, come here and post YOUR CONCERNS, but do  not try to clutter the thread with posts trying to convince others they are wrong about their concerns and if they just looked at the game a different way then they'd be "less disappointed"!   Utter nonsense......

 

Just to add a final point, even if you have zero concerns with the game, and again, thats completely fine with me, EVERY SINGLE concern could be alleviated by Bioware without diminishing his (or anyone else's) play throughs of the game.  Its mainly just adding back in the multiple control options we had to play all the other games in the series,and of course the people having technically issues as well.

[the_pepper]

Are you mentally challenged?  again, rhetorical.....   I have ZERO, i repeat, ZERO issues with people that like/love/worship the game.  Thats great, i'm am happy for them and i will NEVER go into one of the threads of people praising the game and try to convince them otherwise.  I'm glad they are satisfied with their purchase, however I am not.

 

What I do is go into the PC COMMUNITY CONCERNS thread to voice my CONCERNS with the the game.  Its a bit ridiculous for people that have ZERO concerns (at least he hasn't voiced any concerns, just argued with those that do...) with the game to come here and try to convince others that DO have concerns that we shouldn't or they are unfounded.  Thats absolutely asinine.  If you have concerns but generally like the game Great, come here and post YOUR CONCERNS, but do  not try to clutter the thread with posts trying to convince others they are wrong about their concerns and if they just looked at the game a different way then they'd be "less disappointed"!   Utter nonsense......

 

Just to add a final point, even if you have zero concerns with the game, and again, thats completely fine with me, EVERY SINGLE concern could be alleviated by Bioware without diminishing his (or anyone else's) play throughs of the game.  Its mainly just adding back in the multiple control options we had to play all the other games in the series,and of course the people having technically issues as well.

I'd try to get you to understand that people who like the game also have complaints and probably don't like seeing others insulting what (to them) is a good decision, that while it is fair to assume you'll enjoy the sequel to a game you liked (especially if the game's marketting suggested you would indeed enjoy it), the creators have a right to change the formula if they feel it's the right decision, and it's also not very feasible at this point doing all the changes people are clamouring for while maintaining the original vision and...

Well, whatever. Considering the way you started your post by insulting me (nice job dude, people really take you seriously when you do that) I can't really say I feel that you're worth the time it'd take me to try to formulate\organize a proper answer. 
You win. I am very convinced. You can go ahead and do a little dance now.

[Brogan]

I'd try to get you to understand that people who like the game also have complaints and probably don't like seeing others insulting what (to them) is a good decision, .................

 

OK, lemme get this straight..... so you don't like it when people 'criticize' (that's the word you were looking for, not insult) Bioware's purposeful decision to give people less options, instead of .... MORE options.

 

You don't want other players to have more options.  You think that's an insult to you, somehow.  Or to how *you* experienced Inquisition.

 

Do you realize how childish this looks to everyone reading your posts and posts like it?

[Novos]

Oh man, this is getting a bit tiring isn't it? Yeah, you're probably right and he should leave, after all no way can someone like a game and still have issues with it. No no, as we all know every game is perfect, unless it has at least a single flaw - then it's horrible and the worst thing to spawn from human consciousness since Nazism. How dare people who play and mostly enjoy the game on pc come to the "pc community concerns" thread and voice their concerns?
Seriously though: Look, unless one is a masochist\idiot, they wouldn't come here without having a single issue with the game or being on the fence and wanting to know what issues people have with it. I'm sure most people that comment here do have issues. It doesn't mean that everyone must absolutely loathe the game in its entirety and that anyone defending part\most of it is a fanboy\apologist\whatever. Nor does it mean that everybody must like and dislike the exact same things about it.

EDIT: Also, I don't completely agree with Archie's interpretation of what the game is supposed to be - though I do wonder about the reasoning behind deciding to make the "open world" areas the way they did, to me the narrative and exploration aspects seem a bit disconnected from each other. But that is nevertheless his interpretation of it and he seems to enjoy that aspect of the game, who are you to say he shouldn't?
TL;DR: People have tastes and preferences. Deal with it.

Did you even read the actual post which the author you quoted replied to ?

Can you name a single concern which that post raised over the game apart from dismissing other people's issues and telling them that they are wrong ?

People here do not actually have any problems with others liking the game. It is totaly fine. We are just trying to give feedback and raise our concerns over the issues we have with the game. Which is in a topic created by a developer just for that exact purpose...

"Trying to dismiss other people's concerns, in a topic created to adress them" clearly shows who is intolerant to who. It is really beyond me... I mean the idea and the motivation behind this behaviour. Why would anyone need to dismiss a possible solution or a resolution to a problem some other fellow gamer suffers ? Why would he/she bother or get offended rather than supporting the other ? What is wrong with people trying to solve their issues in order to enjoy their game as much as others ?

Really beyond me...

[the_pepper]

I did indeed mean criticize. Meant to correct it before posting. Forgot.

Still, a lot of people don't react well when they see others criticizing what they like is what I'm saying. They do indeed sometimes see it as a direct attack to them (or, probably, their taste), I'm pretty sure we all experienced this one way or another at some point. What I mean is that people shouldn't be surprised to see someone coming to the defence of the product they enjoy when half the posts on the thread are obviously biased and\or exaggerated. I'm not saying I don't agree with many complaints, but you must see how just the phrasing of a lot of them can tick off someone who sees nothing wrong with the thing being complained about, even if these people who come to the defence of the game have something to complain about themselves. Hell, I myself could probably cause this reaction on someone who actually likes the game's UI whenever I talk about it.

As I said, we're all (well, almost, probably) here because we have issues, just don't assume they're the same exact issues for everybody.

Also, more options are indeed better - of course they are - but I'm just doubting how viable implementing dramatically different control schemes would be with the combat the way it is. Honestly, as I said before, I kind of wish they would've just committed to either a more tactical combat\control or just went full action\reflex-based,

[acicm2]

Seems that my settings for the game keep getting reseted everytime I start the game through origins.

 

wont let me use any other screen setting beside full screen, again when i open the game through origins.

[the_pepper]

Seems that my settings for the game keep getting reseted everytime I start the game through origins.

 

wont let me use any other screen setting beside full screen, again when i open the game through origins.

There's should be a "ProfileOptions_profile" file in your "Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Save" folder. Try to edit your settings there. Also, check if the file is read-only (it shouldn't be).