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[Sartoz]

 

With the release of Dragon Age: Inquisition, we've been hearing a number of concerns from members of our PC community, including:

 

• Driver support
• Hitching and frame rate issues in cutscenes
• Feedback on keyboard and mouse controls
• General user interface optimizations for PC

 

We've been following these issues closely and are looking into them.

 

Player experience is a top priority for us. Our goal is to address as many of these as possible in our upcoming patches, including some in our next patch, which is underway. We’ll release further details in the coming days and will continue to monitor your concerns.

 

Your feedback is important to us, and we appreciate your contribution to making Dragon Age: Inquisition a better overall experience.

 

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Big Snip

 

 

Glad to hear Bio is looking but I prefer if you actually do something about them.. like fixing.

 

Also, how about optimizing the game's use of system resources / rendering code? My Window 7 Resource Monitor shows an inordinate amout of CPU usage when my Inquisitor is idle standing in front of the war Room door both in Haven and in Skyhold? I mean, what is the game doing that it must chew up 40-45% of my CPU?

[Alistaur]

Any news? Kb+m controls and tactical camera are still the same?

[Xionanx]

I think they assume everyone who cared about a fix has beat the game already and moved on...  I know I did.. now I'm playing other stuff, only popped in here for "rubber necking" reasons..

[Archie591]

Glad to hear Bio is looking but I prefer if you actually do something about them.. like fixing.

 

Also, how about optimizing the game's use of system resources / rendering code? My Window 7 Resource Monitor shows an inordinate amout of CPU usage when my Inquisitor is idle standing in front of the war Room door both in Haven and in Skyhold? I mean, what is the game doing that it must chew up 40-45% of my CPU?

 

And this is why Bioware refuses to regularly respond in these topics until they have actual fixes ready. People just get more pissed when the Devs dare to show up and say "they are working on things", even if it's the truth and they just want to deliver a substantial patch.

 

People hate the silence, but also hate when the devs only come to say that things are being worked on. Simply no way to please people. Patches aren't released fix by fix every day. They make a hundred fixes and release them all at once to make a significant impact at once. Wish more people accepted this golden standard of patch releases.

 

Also - CPU usage seems pretty normal to me. I just ran Mass Effect 1, a 2008 game, sitting at Normandy, doing nothing. 25% of CPU power used on every single core of my quad core, hexa threaded 4770k. Doing absolutely nothing. A certain amount of CPU commitment is pretty darn normal IMO.

 

DA:I processes various non-interactable and interactable NPC movements around haven or skyhold constantly. Pretty sure this is done to minimize any loading times when fast traveling within Skyhold for example. 

 

 

Why exactly does it bother you? Unless you want to run another game at the same time or wish to do some encoding work, 40% CPU commitment doesn't stop you from doing anything else on the computer at all, not even in the slightest.

[Danoniero]

If you're CPU in not stressed at 100% then why even bother?........

[Therimarthas]

Give me auto attack.... please :-) I hate hitting mouse buttons.

[Tremere]

So, this thread went downhill fast.

Flesh-eating spore mushrooms. And here I was 'I'll just check this thread, quickly, before I go to bed."

Instead,

 

Also, perversely, I kinda want to try apple/tomato juice.

*laughs & laughs* Let me know if you like the juice.

[Drunetovich]

Could we please get some feedback on lack of english subtitles for regional releseases? Voiceovers are available, so what is the issue with english text?

[CatatonicMan]

And this is why Bioware refuses to regularly respond in these topics until they have actual fixes ready. People just get more pissed when the Devs dare to show up and say "they are working on things", even if it's the truth and they just want to deliver a substantial patch.

 

Saying something along the lines of, "We're working on it", is exactly as useful as saying nothing at all - we already know they're working on it. Uninformative, PR non-statements like that only serve to annoy. If they're going to give us non-information, they might as well just stay silent.

 

If, say, they told us exactly what they were working on, what fixes to expect, how they plan on addressing the issues, how long it will take....that stuff we can actually use.

[Tremere]

 

Bioware knew this and did it anyway.  Some new hot-shot console designer persuaded them 2 years ago that not doing a full pc version would save 10% on the budget, and they freaking went for it.

*geaah* I can appreciate your outrage on this subject. Honestly, when I first played DA2 (being new to the franchise), I immediately knew something was up with the controls. Yes, I got used to them, but in the beginning I told people that it felt like the game was made for consoles. Now, here we are, years later and BioWare has another game that is suffering from the same design decisions. For me this (and taking for granted you have a good reason/source for what you said above), is just a more compelling reason for why I will always wait for price drops before I purchase over-hyped games... If I ever purchase them at all.

[hwlrmnky]

*geaah* I can appreciate your outrage on this subject. Honestly, when I first played DA2 (being new to the franchise), I immediately knew something was up with the controls. Yes, I got used to them, but in the beginning I told people that it felt like the game was made for consoles. Now, here we are, years later and BioWare has another game that is suffering from the same design decisions. For me this (and taking for granted you have a good reason/source for what you said above), is just a more compelling reason for why I will always wait for price drops before I purchase over-hyped games... If I ever purchase them at all.

I'd be curious to see a source on that but I suspect it is an hypothesis.

[Tremere]

I'd be curious to see a source on that but I suspect it is an hypothesis.

*nods* So do I.

[crusader_bin]

It is my hope that after this, BioWare and hopefully game developers in general embrace the fact that attempting to port controls from one platform to the other is just a bad idea. It's like making tomato/apple juice. Yes, they're both fruits and juicy and delicious in their own right, but one should seriously dissuade themselves from trying to combine them. An acquired taste combination it might be, but really... Why? Just to say you did something new and innovative? Okay, but it sucked. Embrace the suck. Own it and then never do it again. *laughs*

 

After this? They knowingly did this to lessen the costs, now it is one of the best selling games and is crowned as a PC Game of the Year.

 

That'll teach them, bastards! All that money shoved right at their faces!

 

Uh? Really?

 

Top dogs will never ever HEAR about ONE unsatisfied customer, they are too high up the chain. It's like asking them to take a walk in the sewage system.

 

Pretty sure, that if anything, this will now happen more often.

 

It's pretty clear now to EA, Ubisoft, etc, that spending money on marketing instead of developement means higher sales.

[crusader_bin]

Could we please get some feedback on lack of english subtitles for regional releseases? Voiceovers are available, so what is the issue with english text?

 

It is possible, you need Outcome program and set the language in the config file, that I believe was in install dir. I remember there was a topic for this, but It might have been deleted... Stupid EA... I know It works for me, even after patches though. [As Origin hijacks the process while it is beeing started, after it is running, you can start Origin]

 

http://outcome.nofate.me/

 

(maybe you can even use the menus to switch, while Origin is down? I didn't test)

 

The official EA rules for that is to:

 

1) Never comment about it

2) Delete all solutions from both EA and Bioware forums

3) When confronted directly, say you have to buy copy from other region, otherwise it is not possible (regardless of the fact that cheaper regions may have english texts anyway, like Mexico.)

 

Bugs aside, the above is the reason why I would actually crucify those jerks.

[Lord Vallis]

I'd be curious to see a source on that but I suspect it is an hypothesis.

 

 

*nods* So do I.

 

Um, have either of you seen the interface?

It's blatantly obvious that this game was intended for console.

[hwlrmnky]

Um, have either of you seen the interface?
It's blatantly obvious that this game was intended for console.

We're talking about a specific quote not the UI.

[crusader_bin]

Um, have either of you seen the interface?

It's blatantly obvious that this game was intended for console.

I don't think they question the fact, that it's a cheap port, more likely they think that it was not a deliberate decision of management to make it so.

Which is a bit silly, because those things must be defined before the work on anything even starts. And stuff like that usually is beeing dictated by the ammounts of resources that are given for the task.

Wether a guy in a shirt and a tie with a pie chart was involved or not? Not really sure who cares

[FOE]

Well that's pretty much standard fare nowadays, I know that's how the political "game" works.  Promise the moon to the voters.  Doesn't matter if you can't deliver on the promises, as you've already won the election...(GOTY really???)...4 more years to make up new promises I guess.  Actually sounds a lot like Bioware/EA really are a political party and not a game developer anymore.  I'm just another disillusioned gamer amongst many.  On a positive note, I'm having a blast playing Dragon Age ORIGINS again...and looking back fondly on William Henry Harrison's term in office.

P.S.  This is my first post in any sort of game forum, so please be gentle.  I normally would just stick to Facebook/Twitter, but it's just that this game is such a monumental disappointment, that I felt compelled to say something.

[crusader_bin]

Well that's pretty much standard fare nowadays, I know that's how the political "game" works.  Promise the moon to the voters.  Doesn't matter if you can't deliver on the promises, as you've already won the election...(GOTY really???)...4 more years to make up new promises I guess.  Actually sounds a lot like Bioware/EA really are a political party and not a game developer anymore.  I'm just another disillusioned gamer amongst many.  On a positive note, I'm having a blast playing Dragon Age ORIGINS again...and looking back fondly on William Henry Harrison's term in office.

P.S.  This is my first post in any sort of game forum, so please be gentle.  I normally would just stick to Facebook/Twitter, but it's just that this game is such a monumental disappointment, that I felt compelled to say something.

 

Welcome to the forums than. 

I agree with what you said, even if you might as well have said that "Sun is shining"

[Greetsme]

Funny how the internet was swarming with BIoware pr and 'hype it to the hilt' representatives, months before release, then after release, not so much as a squeak from them. That is, until they have something to sell us, then they will hatch like bunny's all over the place.

[hwlrmnky]

Well that's pretty much standard fare nowadays, I know that's how the political "game" works.  Promise the moon to the voters.  Doesn't matter if you can't deliver on the promises, as you've already won the election...(GOTY really???)...4 more years to make up new promises I guess.  Actually sounds a lot like Bioware/EA really are a political party and not a game developer anymore.  I'm just another disillusioned gamer amongst many.  On a positive note, I'm having a blast playing Dragon Age ORIGINS again...and looking back fondly on William Henry Harrison's term in office.
P.S.  This is my first post in any sort of game forum, so please be gentle.  I normally would just stick to Facebook/Twitter, but it's just that this game is such a monumental disappointment, that I felt compelled to say something.

Hi FOE, welcome to the forums. Your Harrison comment amused me.

If anyone gives you grief for which you weren't looking the Ignore Preferences can come in handy. Some of us thrive on conflict. Some of us prefer to be mellow. Some of us alternate!

[voteDC]

*geaah* I can appreciate your outrage on this subject. Honestly, when I first played DA2 (being new to the franchise), I immediately knew something was up with the controls. Yes, I got used to them, but in the beginning I told people that it felt like the game was made for consoles. Now, here we are, years later and BioWare has another game that is suffering from the same design decisions. For me this (and taking for granted you have a good reason/source for what you said above), is just a more compelling reason for why I will always wait for price drops before I purchase over-hyped games... If I ever purchase them at all.

I first played Dragon Age II on the PC and it was instantly familiar to me control wise. Yes the lack of being able to pull out to a isometric view was annoying but I could play it like Origins except for that.

Switch to Inquisition and it feels foreign to me.

It's odd really but I think I'd rather play DAII because its control options are just that much better than Inquisition.

Though I'm playing through Origins again because at the moment it's the best of the games for me. I like the story AND the controls.

[FOE]

Thank you all for the kind words.  For what it's worth, here's my (very brief) experience with the Game of Frustrations....er, DA:I.  Been anticipating the release for years....watched reviews and any footage on the net that I could find.  I loved Origins and was put-off a bit by the sequel.  Only played halfway through DA2.  Maybe it was the reuse of the same buildings and whatnot, but it seemed "rushed" somehow. The controls hadn't changed that much, but I didn't care for the inventory and other screens (and implementation). I was encouraged by the FOUR YEARS production cycle (along with veiled promises/videos) for the new game however.  I bought DA:I the day that it came out and tried it for maybe 2 hours.  I was battling the controls and NONE of it was intuitive or fun.  I stopped playing and then started reading the forums.  I guess that I'm not alone.  At least that is comforting....in a misery loves company sort of way.

 

I've seen that there are already Mods that are trying to address some of the PC control issues and I might give them a try. I was really hoping that Bioware (or "Booware" as I've read some smart poster call them) would get off of their collective-arses and fix this travesty.  A bad console port is what I've received for plunking down $70, NOT a "PC game for PC gamers"...or whatever it was that they promised.  Maybe they meant "politically correct" all along, and we just assumed that they meant "personal computer".  What's probably killing me the most is that they already did it correctly (in DA:O)...there was no reason to reinvent the wheel here.  That's why I'm pissed....because they did it right before, then progressively messed up the franchise.  Amazing.

 

Anyway, I'm probably not helping even being here and spewing my frustration(s).  I have no answers.  I'll play something else until someone fixes this hot mess.  It's unplayable (for me) in it's current state.  Can't click to move, can't loot properly, my character behaves like a submarine when it's searching, I can't pan-out to see my whole party, can't auto-attack, no party member obeys my commands...I just can't torture myself any further.  So I wait.  Bioware (or Modders), do your job and fix this.  Thank you.

[Aggular]

I see this game is on sale on Origin for PC. Have most of the PC concerns been address?  I started to play Origins again and like it so far on PC. Controls seem fine and wanted to run through the previous games before starting DA:I.  Am I wasting my time? Thanks

[Joooosephineo]

Nothing is addressed yet. Avoid this game, especially for PC.