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#8426
arkngt

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Just tested, thanks for this!

 

Now we just need to be able to queue it; such as move here and hold.

 

It's still frustrating to use as the party spawns close to the player if she/he scouts ahead. Typically, I paus outside, say, a cave entrance, noticing that there are a bunch of enemies inside. I order the others to hold position. My char stealths and goes into the cave and when in the middle of it - the team spawns just around her. Which of course was exactly what I tried to avoid in the first place...

 

In short, the distance for spawning after the player should be lengthened, at least when they are told to hold position.


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#8427
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Everything is realtive and nothing (or everything?) could be real.

Solipsism is an idea that only you exist. So ALL the toothpicks are in fact, yours.

And trees. 

And EAs and Biowares.

As far as I know, they might be the same things. Or none at all.

The cake. It is a lie.

Oh, c'mon. Somebody had to say it.

Also, the next person who suggests doing anything in tac cam can... oh, wait. I'm sober, and that would be rude, never mind. :D

Tac cam is a travesty. Especially on laptops. Even Bioware has admitted it's completely effed on PC (doesn't even work as intended).

Even when it does the "to use tac cam, press T" in the "tute" part of the game, I'm, like, "eff you, I'll just action it, thanks."



#8428
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How does it make you guys feel to know you can post away on this thread to your heart's content knowing full well not a single Bioware employer is reading any of this?

 

You know what, if you went outside of your house and had the same discussions here to a nearby brick wall you'd actually have the same level of accomplishment.

 

How does it make you feel, really? I want to know.


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#8429
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Well, I feel like I'm slowly getting to know some intelligent gamers with interesting things to say.

ETA: Too subtle? Alas.

I've never cared whether BioWare is reading what I write. This is a chat thread while we wait to see what the patches do.
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#8430
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How does it make you guys feel to know you can post away on this thread to your heart's content knowing full well not a single Bioware employer is reading any of this?

 

You know what, if you went outside of your house and had the same discussions here to a nearby brick wall you'd actually have the same level of accomplishment.

 

How does it make you feel, really? I want to know.

 

If I would want to accomplish anything in life, I wouldn't play video games now, would I?

Hence, the joke is on you!


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#8431
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Sooo still no word on patch 3?  Nothing at all?  Well ok then!


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#8432
crusader_bin

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Sooo still no word on patch 3?  Nothing at all?  Well ok then!

 

Latest update from the patching process:

 

http://www.quickmeme...a9d11233f42.jpg

 

edit: Turns out there were complications, the patch is delayed: http://i.imgur.com/qnpZdJ8.jpg


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#8433
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Bought a pad for this yesterday.

Feels way more comfortable to use and actually enjoyed playing



#8434
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Bought a pad for this yesterday.

Feels way more comfortable to use and actually enjoyed playing

 

I bought a different game yesterday.

 

Feels way more comfortable to play and actually enjoyed playing.


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#8435
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How does it make you guys feel to know you can post away on this thread to your heart's content knowing full well not a single Bioware employer is reading any of this?

 

You know what, if you went outside of your house and had the same discussions here to a nearby brick wall you'd actually have the same level of accomplishment.

 

How does it make you feel, really? I want to know.

Have had deep and meaningful conversations with bricks. More responsive than here!


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#8436
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Bought a pad for this yesterday.

Feels way more comfortable to use and actually enjoyed playing

 

Nice for you ! But personally, if I wanted to play with a pad, I had to buy the PS4 version, not PC...

 

But really, having all those people playing the PC version of the game better with a pad, and having so little option to configure a GAMING mouse with 5+ buttons...

 

Come on, Bioware!!!! It's a joke no?

 

If Blizzard is able to have a near to perfect controls customization on PC and Console, I'm sure you should be able to do the same... if you wanted... (I have both so I know)

 

Shame on you!

 

JPR out!



#8437
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I got shot down in flames on the Patch 2 forum. I had the temerity to say that I thought DA:I was not ready for release! That they should have held it back til KB & M was sorted. Would have avoided so much angst and aggro!


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#8438
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Nice for you ! But personally, if I wanted to play with a pad, I had to buy the PS4 version, not PC...

 

But really, having all those people playing the PC version of the game better with a pad, and having so little option to configure a GAMING mouse with 5+ buttons...

 

Come on, Bioware!!!! It's a joke no?

 

If Blizzard is able to have a near to perfect controls customization on PC and Console, I'm sure you should be able to do the same... if you wanted... (I have both so I know)

 

Shame on you!

 

JPR out!

 

Hey, be careful you. You'll get in trouble with the 'mods' for disorderly conduct for saying that kinda **** around here. Get the hell outta here with your fancy mouse and PC controls. What do you think this is, some kind of PC community concern thread?


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#8439
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How does it make you guys feel to know you can post away on this thread to your heart's content knowing full well not a single Bioware employer is reading any of this?

 

You know what, if you went outside of your house and had the same discussions here to a nearby brick wall you'd actually have the same level of accomplishment.

 

How does it make you feel, really? I want to know.

Top lel.

It would be kind of nice for them too at least keep us posted on things huh? Like i'm not asking for them every hour to be like" GUYS THIS AND THAT!" But a post every couple days would be nice. Like talking about how the patch is coming along,or an ETA at least or a guess on an ETA. That's all I don't think i'm asking for much with that request I mean other game companies do it, or I guess I could just be spoiled with Blizzards forums perhaps seeing as they always talk in pretty much any thread with questions daily. Meh who knows *shrugs*. 

In the meantime I am actually enjoying Far Cry 4 just waiting for Dragon Age too be fixed, anyone else playing Far Cry 4 ? Having a freaking blast on the game and it's my new personal game of the year was suppose to be DAI but yea...about that lmao.



#8440
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If they've told their fans all the gameplay changes they planned many players wouldn't had bought the game. I don't believe in game companies anymore with their false advertisement (or holding information) strategically to sell more.



#8441
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Top lel.

It would be kind of nice for them too at least keep us posted on things huh? Like i'm not asking for them every hour to be like" GUYS THIS AND THAT!" But a post every couple days would be nice. Like talking about how the patch is coming along,or an ETA at least or a guess on an ETA. That's all I don't think i'm asking for much with that request I mean other game companies do it, or I guess I could just be spoiled with Blizzards forums perhaps seeing as they always talk in pretty much any thread with questions daily. Meh who knows *shrugs*. 

In the meantime I am actually enjoying Far Cry 4 just waiting for Dragon Age too be fixed, anyone else playing Far Cry 4 ? Having a freaking blast on the game and it's my new personal game of the year was suppose to be DAI but yea...about that lmao.

 

I decided to beat Dragon Age before starting FarCry 4 (both I preordered). 

Started FC4 yesterday, so far it is awesome. I kinda laughed (inside) when I saw on rlslog (I keep track of releases there) that it had a patch every few days.

Now I can enjoy it, knowing that all the things I never would have noticed in FC4 are fixed! Awesome!



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Mods are saving my PC gameplay experience. It's a shame because the artists/actors/writers all did their jobs very well, and the neglect on PC makes it harder for the fans to appreciate it.

 

One would be a fool to preorder any "PC" release from Bioware after this.

Amen on that!



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still haven't touched the single player, stopped at level 11. Been playing the multiplayer now and then since then. 

Game is close to unplayable in nightmare difficulty with the current tactical camera. It's too frustrating to use this thing as it gets stuck on everything and has no proper tilt control. Still waiting for an improvement to this thing before I touch the single player again. I'd rather not bump the difficulty down to normal and play the game like mindless action game with no tactics, although that just happens to be the only way to actually enjoy the single player considering how bad the tac cam functions and how dumb and limited the a.i controls are in this.

Only bought this dragon age because of the reintroduction of the tactical cam. If only I'd had known that it was going to be a barely functional advertisement ploy for dragon age origins fans...


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#8444
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Nice for you ! But personally, if I wanted to play with a pad, I had to buy the PS4 version, not PC...

 

But really, having all those people playing the PC version of the game better with a pad, and having so little option to configure a GAMING mouse with 5+ buttons...

 

Come on, Bioware!!!! It's a joke no?

 

If Blizzard is able to have a near to perfect controls customization on PC and Console, I'm sure you should be able to do the same... if you wanted... (I have both so I know)

 

Shame on you!

 

JPR out!

Completely agree - was more saying it to elaborate the point that playing with the pad was (once I worked out the buttons...!)
far easier on the hands than the KB&M

But obviously badly 

I did buy a PC to play this game over a console so a little disappointed.
Kerbal Space Program was worth it though


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#8445
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How does it make you guys feel to know you can post away on this thread to your heart's content knowing full well not a single Bioware employer is reading any of this?

 

You know what, if you went outside of your house and had the same discussions here to a nearby brick wall you'd actually have the same level of accomplishment.

 

How does it make you feel, really? I want to know.

 

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#8446
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 Big Snip

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I know that it isn't (at least not all of it) users fault but perhaps some people should try to play it after taking proper care of their system and properly installing and updating requirements?

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Glad to hear you can play the game.

 

However, a properly written game is one that you can install and  play without forcing the customer to do serious house cleaning of the OS. Yes, I'm one of those "techies" but most are not.  DAI is a perfect example of a rushed game. Did you notice this?

 

Original executable -- DragonAgeInquisition.exe = 80MB

Patch 2 executable -- DragonAgeInquisition.exe = 70MB

 

I keep the original by copy paste then perform the patch.  Anyway, 10MB of code was deleted with the patch. Perhaps Denuvo was removed from the Single Player game or the studio realized the need to turn on the compiler optimization switch or perhaps the original game was shipped with debugging code (something to be ABSOLUTELY removed from a production version).

 

The point is that a consumer / player has no business performing serious maintenance on the PC because the game is such a hog on computer / GPU resources.


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#8447
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Whew!  Well having read most of the previous two hundred or so posts, most of which echo my own, um, uncomfortable experiences with this game I decided to add my bit here at what is currently the end of the thread.

 

With a newly installed 4k monitor and  GTX970 graphics, let me say that this game produces some really stunning views of a detailed vibrant world.  The only issue I can insert is that in a 4K world, one should remember that the cursor is a scalable object too.  It's difficult enough to maneuver the insane tactical view and the inability to move slowly and gracefully about this world without having to jiggle and wiggle the mouse around to find the tiny gnat-sized cursor.

 

In all fairness, I find that almost all of the games I own that allow play in 4K are suffering from the same neglect.  The PC controls for the mouse cursor don't seem to affect the in-game cursors and that is an issue that needs to be noticed.

 

If Bioware ever does read these posts, maybe some more 4K players will chime in on this.



#8448
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I know people seem hate when I target the programmers rather than the ones who made the design decisions for blame, but isn't it obvious after a month and 11 days that the programmers of this game, and the functionalities of all these systems and designs people are complaining about, is clearly suffering from the same limitation?

Point being, Laidlaw and Darrah aren't programming the different systems. But they are also surely not sitting there, telling the people at the work desks, "No, we don't need those decade old systems that would work great here. Make something new and fresh up, and don't worry if it's subpar"

 

Actually you are blaming the wrong targets. Managers/Directors/Producers are the ones to blame. These people have the final go/nogo decisions. They accepted the game mechanics when those PR videos were produced for "our benefit". 

 

Consoles were the main market. Here is a quote from FY14 Q3 Financial report.

 "EA's third quarter marked an exciting start to a new generation of games, and we are proud to have been the #1 publisher on next-generation consoles in December, with millions of gamers across the globe playing EA titles on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One," said Chief Executive Officer Andrew Wilson.

 

Game estimation time:

"The best estimate system I've found for software development time is Hofstadter's Law - It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law"

 

I would not be surprised if the cost of the game was fixed even before the game design was done. Programmers (worker bees) get their marching orders from above. The game, in my view, was written for the consoles first and a rushed port precluded any major UI changes required for a PC platform.

 

Here is a link on software project estimation and who does what, if you are interested:

http://www.codeproje...ct-in-man-hours

 

Remember, EA Bioware Division looks at three things:  Time, Cost and Value.



#8449
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the funny thing is the tactical mode of da:i is nearly the same as the normal paused mode in da:o. the only difference is you have to still move your camera with wasd instead of mouse cursor. really cant see how such a little tweak makes a game unplayable.

 

naturally that doesnt work for free roaming but for combat it works fine

The "tweak" as you call it is very awkward. Tac mode and moving the camera with my left hand is "un-natural" to me. I gave up on it and just use "action" mode most of the time. Darrah, I believe, said he prefers the action mode over the tac mode... now that says something.


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#8450
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The "tweak" as you call it is very awkward. Tac mode and moving the camera with my left hand is "un-natural" to me. I gave up on it and just use "action" mode most of the time. Darrah, I believe, said he prefers the action mode over the tac mode... now that says something.

While I was still using the KB&M I'd actually forgotten all about the Tac. Mode and had my left little finger hovering over Ctrl to pause instead.

It's a pointless feature in my eyes for the PC version


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