No, I haven't seen his other posts. You may be right, was hard to understand.
You understand my point however, that even the smallest details that Bio screwed up are worthy of complaint here. There are so many things that fall into that category.
PC Community Concerns
#9026
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 02:50
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#9027
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 02:56
I know, believe me, I'm passing through all stages of grief with inquisition.Denial: I thought I was blind when I couldn't find the option to turn on the auto attackAnger: I was blaming the console gamers, but even DA:O and DA 2 had auto attack and tactics on the consolesBargaining: I searched for every mod and cheat program out there to make it more like a tactical gameDepression: Me, right now...I'm really, really sadAcceptance: My next step, I will stop playing Bioware games if the third patch doesn't help
lol
See, this post is an example of the kind of thing I would wager Laidlaw and Darrah do not not even realize exists within their own community.
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#9028
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 03:10
How can you defend a guy who says " Things don't have to function", isn't that the entire point of this thread?
I'm so frustrated as you about the pc controls, but that guy doesnt even make sense, have you seen his others posts?
He simple wants stats points, I know we lost them, but he wants JUST that. In a Bioware game.
That he can find in any other game. He doen't even like the tactics, one of the most important things we lost in this game.
In any other game no, not really. In old games yeah. Regarding old games there was infinite engine games, KOTOR, Sacred and so on.
Recently nothing of note. Even Divinity fell short stat-wise. The I'm left with MMORPGs, most of them with shallow/automatic stats systems too...
I used to care for other things but now, I don't because the hardest thing is to find stat points that offer possibilities. Most stat system today either force you into one or two main stat or actually prevent you from putting points in anything else.
Wasteland 2 offered me a sense of customization, I liked it. Pillars of Eternity seem to... not sure yet.
The point is unless I am missing a HUGE amount of games with good customization through stats, no, there is nothing easy in finding a game with stats to play.
I hope I am wrong and if I am please point me towards these games, I will gladly forget Inquisition with all this ****!
(Currently playing KOTOR2 again, and DAO and a lot of games in fact, all old)
I care not for story because now every kind of game have good/entertaining or even complex story. From Tomb Raider and Saints Row to GTA, Beyond and Last of Us. A great story is not exclusive to RPGs anymore. Not even customizing charactes appearance and other things like equipment and skills.
So yeah, I care for the only thing different and I don't think it is wrong to do so. I get you have emotional investment with the story, I do too. But well, **** it, story did not get worse, at least not as much as combat and other systems, not even close, if it did at all. Bioware writting is good, great, but I am sincere, I play ANY **** I can represent myself in. ANY. I can't role play things I don't see myself in, sorry. So there is no use in having a wonderful story and wonderful tactical combat if I can't feel myself in the character, it all becomes useless.
#9029
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 03:15
Thanks for trying to get an answer Chaos. Hard not to miss the deafening silence of the 'response'. Wasn't this 'mystical' patch3 supposed to be in QA about a month and a half ago, or should we now consider it 'mythical'? Sigh. This is the last Origin pre-order you'll ever see from me EA, and don't you dare release any dlc before you fulfill your promises.
#9030
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 03:19
if I can't feel myself in the character
If stats are the only thing that make you feel like that, it's harder.
I consider myself a theorycrafter, I would spend hours comparing stats even to play pokémon, but I don't limit myself to stats. Have you tried Rift?
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree
It has tons of combinations of classes... you can make a Warrior healer.... A mage tank... A magic rogue... you can have 3 specializations in one character
#9031
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 03:33
If stats are the only thing that make you feel like that, it's harder.
I consider myself a theorycrafter, I would spend hours comparing stats even to play pokémon, but I don't limit myself to stats. Have you tried Rift?
http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree
It has tons of combinations of classes... you can make a Warrior healer.... A mage tank... A magic rogue... you can have 3 specializations in one character
Sorry but yeah, only interested stats now. Had my share of trying everything else uselessly. (In Rift I tried something like a shadowdancer or perhaps that was exactly the name, don't remember, didn't like it, doesn't help)
Also, not only having stats, but I have very specific sets of stats that fullfill the purpose like it being limited, so games in which you can reborn over and over to max them ruins it for me (not refferencing any specific game). The list is huge. Funny thing is that I only realized it after I missed it. Old games used to have it all in place. Now not even Divinity makes it right.
And well in Pokémon it is standard, my pokémon are all about IV/EV and nothing else.
Anyway my point is that is not easily found so that one can criticize me for only wanting it. It is as rare it gets, so I do believe my "desperation" to the point of ignoring everything else is fitting. Specially when it comes to the company that REALLY did it right in the past.
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#9032
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 03:42
Finally I have enough hours to relate the most two glaring problems with the game as I play on a 4K monitor. I don't miss tactics or care about shiny hair. At this resolution, my cursor is a miniscule dot lost forever in the swirl of activity and I am unable to stroll through the vivid landscape rendered in 3840 X 2160 pixels.
So instead I thrash about trying to figure out where my less-than-gnat size cursor is during violent battles and run hurky-jerky through the swaying fields and valleys when there's nothing to do but wonder at the landscape. Instead of looking around I'm going "V V V V V " and then I hurredly stumble awkwardly run-stop-run-stop at every loot drop until I'm lined up just right.
In other words, please address the scaling of the cursor for higher resolution game-play (let me see YOU hit a ram at 100 yards with an ice bolt without a cursor) and let me walk gracefully to my kill for and easy loot.
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#9034
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 04:10
Sorry but yeah, only interested stats now
#9035
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 04:44
Anyway my point is that is not easily found so that one can criticize me for only wanting it. It is as rare it gets, so I do believe my "desperation" to the point of ignoring everything else is fitting. Specially when it comes to the company that REALLY did it right in the past.
My friend, you are absolutely not alone in feeling as pissed off and betrayed at Bioware as the rest of us because of the bolded above.
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#9036
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 05:13
Damn. This game feels more like a hacknslash.
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#9037
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 05:39
All things aside, how can we get some sort of human response from Bioware. Laidlaw won't show his face, I know, without a helmet, but surely some one can front up?
This topic was started on the 19th November 2014!! Press the "Only show Bioware posts" and you get 3 pages out of 362. That's only this forum. They are rapidly becoming a laughing stock. This should be made public, if they won't talk on their own forum.
I have been surprised by the eloquence of most posters. Couple not so eloquent! Most just say what is wrong with the game on their machine. Sure there is some grief about promises and so on. But it hasn't been a hate session by any stretch of the imagination. That is until Bioware went into hiding!
You get the respect that you earn. They have lost all credibility.
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#9038
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 05:55
I just want to play the game. My wife is playing it on the 360, it looks but ugly, but at least she gets to play. Me, I'm sitting here with my shiny Steam machine, a graphics card that could power the Enterprise, with all the graphics setting to a bear minimum, and the game wont run. Five seconds of game time, ten seconds of freezing. Over and over, regardless of any settings.
#9039
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 05:55
@TobyJake : as you saw, they seem only to reply on Twitter now.
#9040
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 05:59
I used to play Cabal Online with a shield warrior, but with magic stats, it was cool to defeat other people who didn't expect magic attacks from a guy with armor.But game mechanics are fulfilling the role of stats distribution today. Personally, I won't miss them if the game allows me to build other things, in DA case, the tactics.You may have tied yourself to an old concept that has evolved into new forms, you just have to find it again.
I don't play action. Just played DAI because of expectations. I just don't see any joy in action combat. So Cabal is a no go for me. In fact the summary is that old Bioware RPGs and sequels of old Bioware RPGs as NWN2 and KOTOR2 are what interest me. Yeah, they decided to let go of stats, I just won't play it anymore. If needed be I will play old games for the rest of my life. In fact I have no desire to play anything new, never had, as I stated before somewhere, perhaps this very forum, I have planned playthroughs for my games for a life time. Perhaps in NWN2 alone. So yeah, I will just let Bioware go any way it wants and keep playing good old games. Some things endure, others don't, the great thing about PCs is that you can make software last forever even if systems change completely there will still be emulators. Perhaps in 40 years I will be playing NWN2 in a windows emulation and the very concept of operational system as we know will be ridiculous, but I doubt they wont make previous software work on any machine, even if they are quantum mechanics time-space bending cores with lasers.
#9041
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 07:00
patch?
#9042
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 07:10
Just wanted to say that I've finally started Inquisition. Yes, the controls are weird, and some bizarre decisions were made, but I'm gradually getting used to them. Also, I haven't had a single crash or error after six hours of playing. My graphics card is from NVIDIA, in case that means anything. I'm glad I haven't had problems, but I don't know why other people have had a disastrous experience.
#9043
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 07:11
patch?
Sorry, but no. GOTY!
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#9044
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 08:30
I don't play action. Just played DAI because of expectations. I just don't see any joy in action combat.
I have to 100% agree here. I loved DA:O because it WASN'T an "Action" game.
Like so many others I was disappointed by DA:2, partially because of the "Action" combat, fortunately eventually various patches made it play similar to DA:O.
Then for year we hear how DA:I will be "return to our origins" and specifically made for PC (with of course consoles in mind).
Instead we get a Third Person Shooter with a very poor port of console controls over to the PC.
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#9045
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 08:39
Family causing some sleep to be lost.
Came on here with a big insulting reply.. was basically going to call them frauds and insult the whole world. Cancelled it.
It's no "Game of the Year", but against my better judgement, I'll try to slog through it.
If they do significantly patch the game soon, like they said they will, it may even become a much better experience. It is still possible. Maybe the lack of sleep is having a strange reverse effect of optimism here.
To at least reassure myself I won't fry my rig with this game, I did some research and learned more about what cpu temperatures I should be concerned about (or not concerned about).
Research how your specific CPU monitors its temperature, what safety features are there to react to high temperatures and protect the CPU, what those high temperatures are, and what temperatures you are hitting when you play (run in windowed mode, with a temperature monitor beside it).
In in case of an Intel processor, I discovered that based on Intel's documentation, it is entirely possible to experience stuttering and pauses in the game (I believe you would experience it in All of Windows, for that matter, not just in the game) if for arguments sake certain temperature thresholds are being reached. It would reduce performance, restore it, reduce, restore, pause, resume, and on and on as it attempts to regulate its temperature to protect itself from damage. The user would have no other indication this is happening - this behavior is built right into the CPU and it's actually quite brilliant.
http://www.intel.com...heet-vol-1.html
See 6.2 of that document: Processor Thermal Features. If this is TLDR and you aren't interested in knowing how things really work, yet want to own a gaming PC and think a 5-word Twitter response would suffice, I'm sorry but welcome to reality. The truth is far more complex than Twitter ever lets on.
I also discovered that if I play in power-save mode (I believe on a laptop this throttles the CPU+GPU, among other things), I still get good performance and temperatures are much lower, meaning less stress on my components. To accompany this, I did however also carry out the recommendations on this page (user.cfg and disable in-game overlay) which seemed to relieve some stress while maintaining very good visuals:
http://pcgamingwiki....formance_Issues
I'm going to look through these suggestions as well to see what else I can add to user.cfg to reduce the stress on my hardware further will maintaining good visuals:
http://forum.bioware...the-pc-version/
And that's what it's come to. Instead of playing the game, I'm tinkering with the engine.
"GAME OF THE YEAR!!", right?
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#9046
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 09:13
All things aside, how can we get some sort of human response from Bioware. Laidlaw won't show his face, I know, without a helmet, but surely some one can front up?
This topic was started on the 19th November 2014!! Press the "Only show Bioware posts" and you get 3 pages out of 362. That's only this forum. They are rapidly becoming a laughing stock. This should be made public, if they won't talk on their own forum.
I have been surprised by the eloquence of most posters. Couple not so eloquent! Most just say what is wrong with the game on their machine. Sure there is some grief about promises and so on. But it hasn't been a hate session by any stretch of the imagination. That is until Bioware went into hiding!
You get the respect that you earn. They have lost all credibility.
I am very surprised these issues have not yet surfaced on gaming journalism sites.
Oh, and BTW....the devs ARE looking at this forum, but unless you're a sick kid making a post about your sad story and how much you love playing DAI, you're not going to get a response.
#9047
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 09:41
I know, believe me, I'm passing through all stages of grief with inquisition.Denial: I thought I was blind when I couldn't find the option to turn on the auto attackAnger: I was blaming the console gamers, but even DA:O and DA 2 had auto attack and tactics on the consolesBargaining: I searched for every mod and cheat program out there to make it more like a tactical gameDepression: Me, right now...I'm really, really sadAcceptance: My next step, I will stop playing Bioware games if the third patch doesn't help
If patch 3 fails to address some basic PC control issues, you can bet that Biodegradableware has succumbed to "EA satanic capitalistic forces".
I shudder what ME4 will look like to the PC user community. Will they even bother to design the game with the PC KB+M input devices in mind?
#9048
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 09:52
Well, Biodegradableware has spent its marketing budget and its game developement budget. There exists a small maintenance budget, because these things tend to require a post pruduction maintenance cycle as seen with Patch 2 and Hotfix 1.
The question I'm asking is wether EA will give the studio a DLC budget. I would answer with a yes, if EA perceives DAI as a success. If this is the case, I doubt any DLC will be PC friendly. Why change a successful formula?
On the other hand, if Biodegradable wishes to be known as Bioware oncemore, it needs to reach out to the community with some good will.
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#9049
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 09:57
In any other game no, not really. In old games yeah. Regarding old games there was infinite engine games, KOTOR, Sacred and so on.
Recently nothing of note. Even Divinity fell short stat-wise. The I'm left with MMORPGs, most of them with shallow/automatic stats systems too...
I used to care for other things but now, I don't because the hardest thing is to find stat points that offer possibilities. Most stat system today either force you into one or two main stat or actually prevent you from putting points in anything else.
Wasteland 2 offered me a sense of customization, I liked it. Pillars of Eternity seem to... not sure yet.
The point is unless I am missing a HUGE amount of games with good customization through stats, no, there is nothing easy in finding a game with stats to play.
I hope I am wrong and if I am please point me towards these games, I will gladly forget Inquisition with all this ****!
(Currently playing KOTOR2 again, and DAO and a lot of games in fact, all old)
I care not for story because now every kind of game have good/entertaining or even complex story. From Tomb Raider and Saints Row to GTA, Beyond and Last of Us. A great story is not exclusive to RPGs anymore. Not even customizing charactes appearance and other things like equipment and skills.
So yeah, I care for the only thing different and I don't think it is wrong to do so. I get you have emotional investment with the story, I do too. But well, **** it, story did not get worse, at least not as much as combat and other systems, not even close, if it did at all. Bioware writting is good, great, but I am sincere, I play ANY **** I can represent myself in. ANY. I can't role play things I don't see myself in, sorry. So there is no use in having a wonderful story and wonderful tactical combat if I can't feel myself in the character, it all becomes useless.
Yeah.. DAI can be vexing..so when I'm down in the dumps I fire up MOO2, or early CIV games, even XCOM..... or a WW2 game. chess even., just to shake off the inertia that's come over me.
#9050
Posté 06 janvier 2015 - 10:04
Interesting....so Mike Laidlaw throws in a "Multiplayer" comment even though the tweet didn't even ask about "Multiplayer". It is starting to become pretty clear that Dragon Age is turning into an MMO/Multiplayer game.
It is my prediction that DAI may well be the last Single Player Dragon Age game we will see.
And as for support on this game we paid good money for? Unless you bought it for "Multiplayer", seems like you're out of luck.
It's almost as if Mike is trying his best to alienate the fans that brought them success in the first place.
Yesterday, I was still willing to buy whatever DLC Bioware produce for DAI, but today....(still no communication AT ALL; nothing about patch 3) I no longer have any intention of giving them one more penny.
I doubt we will see those "PC Community Concerns" addressed, guys.
I've had enough of this shite.
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