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[Frenrihr]

Yeah, this thread is no longer about PC community concerns. It's now about hating BioWare and creating absurd conspiracy theories. Maybe that's why they don't post here anymore. This "community" has no respect for the developers. I'm sure some from this community would argue that BioWare already doesn't respect them, so why should they respect BioWare? Well, those people are just wrong. It's insane to believe that BioWare devs are sitting around laughing at you guys.

 

How about you go and play your perfect game and leave the topic called "PC community concerns" if you dont have any?, talking about how suposedly the topic has being deviated from its original purposse, comes and deviates it more with his nonesense.

[Han Master]

Hey, if you're worried about dev complacency for this game on the PC side...?  Well, DA:I just won the People's Choice Award for Overall Game of the Year from Gamespot:
 
I dunno who voted for it, but I sure as hell didn't.  Kinda starting to think the fix is in, so to speak.  Not that I give Gamespot all that much in the way of overall cred.  This game is a busted-ass mess and it's winning awards.
 
Yeah, something's definitely rotten this side of Denmark.

Doubt it for one thing it's not gamespot GOTY which shadows of mordor won.

[CaptainBlackGold]

None of us knows what the decision making process is like at Bioware. Speculating therefore is probably futile. However, I pre-ordered this game, and have played a total of three hours. The PC controls just do not work for me. Since the Patch 2 fiasco, the game freezes, sputters and crashes - that is, when I just don't quit in disgust.

 

Unless they fix the PC keyboard and mouse controls, I refuse to play it (my daughter however is messing around with it). I also refuse to buy any DLC. And after DA:2 and ME:3, enough is enough. I will never buy any Bioware product again. That is not quite as spiteful as it sounds; it is just that they no longer seem to want to make the kind of games I want to play; therefore I won't support them any longer as a company and spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere.

 

Sad really; Bioware was the one developer I could always depend on to give me really good value for my investment of time and money. But something, somewhere changed and now, it's "so long and thanks for all the fish..."

 

I am willing to give them the opportunity to fix this. I want to love this game and spend lots of money on the DLC. But first they have to fix what is to me, a terribly broken product.

[Ashen Nedra]

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This is a 830,000 viewed, 9000 replied thread...

The size is huge. Which means; no matter where you are standing, you should acknowledge that a lot of players are having issues with the game. In fact; the numbers are so big that (while unfiltered) they are comparable to the first week sales announced by some web sites before...

Don' t you think that this should mean something ?

This; was the only title i would be pre-ordering(for a very long time) and was willing to use the Origin platform for... Until August, when a lot of features conflicting with what we have been told began to come to surface. Which was also the same time this account was opened in order to adrress my concerns along with other fellow gamers.

Funny thing is; we were all dismissed back then. Yet; we are now discussing all those concerns as reality while still being dismissed...

The disconnect between the devs and the community is pretty clear and astonishing. For the past two months; i am just trying to have a tiny bit of info whether the issues would be adressed or not so that i can make my decision and move along. But no luck on that. All i wanted to know was; will i be able to enjoy a fresh new DA, with my fresh new system without fighting with controls, ui, design decisions, bugs etc...

Clearly; the only positive outcome of this thread was absorbing and directing the toxicity of the feedback into a harmless channel, while not adressing the majority of the issues. Gamers seem to not get anything beneficial from it at the moment.

At this stage; it is becoming apparent that we are probably not going to achieve or get anything satisfactory to address our concerns. So whatever the reason behind; the game is released as it is and they are moving on. And i think, i am too...

 

 

'Clearly; the only positive outcome of this thread was absorbing and directing the toxicity of the feedback into a harmless channel, while not adressing the majority of the issues. Gamers seem to not get anything beneficial from it at the moment.'

 

 

Quoted for truth!

 

 

This, so much this.  Thank you Pen-and-Paper (user, check his posts if you're interested). 

[Han Master]

I already noted this down when this thread started.

[Reclusiarch]

Yeah, this thread is no longer about PC community concerns. It's now about hating BioWare and creating absurd conspiracy theories. Maybe that's why they don't post here anymore. This "community" has no respect for the developers. I'm sure some from this community would argue that BioWare already doesn't respect them, so why should they respect BioWare? Well, those people are just wrong. It's insane to believe that BioWare devs are sitting around laughing at you guys.

Couldn't agree more. Well said!

[Invisible Man]

I'd be a lot happier with this game if I could play it in full screen mode without critical dx errors popping up, and a walk toggle would be nice too. it's funny, when I was doing my first play-through, I was a bit disappointed... though I guess I felt ok with the game (other than the fact that I felt like I didn't get my $70 worth), after that with each PT I've done (4 in total atm), I find myself being just a little bit angrier & a bit more resentful with bioware. I guess I was so thrilled to play a qunari in my first play-through, & that was enough to keep me content for a while... though it seems the buff has worn off. guess I need to start another qunari run next.  

[Han Master]

Really, console gamers should just stop trolling a thread for PC gamers.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Actually, their lack of communication isn't new.  Anyone who plays (or has played) SWTOR is already very familiar with this behavior. 

The SWTOR team is a whole other deal. (If you can call the 2-3 devs left a team) The DA team has had a lack of communication due to it being the holidays. The SWTOR devs on the other hand not only had a distinct lack of presence on their forums, they eventually had the gall to make an announcement that they will no longer be posting at all a few months ago. As if their presence was so common to begin with.The DA fans have it good compared to SWTOR subscribers. You know nothing of dev silence compared to us. See how active the DA team is during the year, and then you can attempt to compare. Not over the holidays. 

[BammBamm]

 
OK, Cosmic, you either work for this website and are here to defend your fellow mods because this thread has been allowed to go on without supervision, or you are one of the many spineless individuals who have played and/or completed DAI with a controller and for some inane reason just can't tolerate seeing people criticize what I'm sure was an 'epic experience' for you.

 

oh really? i finished the game with mouse and keyboard too and it was fine, could be better but it was ok. so at least i know what i'm talking about instead of you that never played the game and just repeating what other people say without any own experience. so tell me, which is the one who should stay away from a feedback thread?

[Brogan]

oh really? i finished the game with mouse and keyboard too and it was fine, could be better but it was ok. so at least i know what i'm talking about instead of you that never played the game and just repeating what other people say without any own experience. so tell me, which is the one who should stay away from a feedback thread?

.... NOT for people with no issues of their own to troll the masses and and attempt to hinder the progress of what they are very likely working on for the next patch....

[Chaos17]

CosmicGnosis, on 07 Jan 2015 - 05:10 AM, said:

Yeah, this thread is no longer about PC community concerns. It's now about hating BioWare and creating absurd conspiracy theories. Maybe that's why they don't post here anymore. This "community" has no respect for the developers. I'm sure some from this community would argue that BioWare already doesn't respect them, so why should they respect BioWare? Well, those people are just wrong. It's insane to believe that BioWare devs are sitting around laughing at you guys.

As PC user and costumer...

Modifié par Chaos17, 07 janvier 2015 - 10:48 .

[Dubya75]

 

This "BammBamm" individual has made himself known to be a troll, only here to ridicule people and be a nuisance (like a fly on your face) so I wouldn't recommend even giving him any acknowledgement.  

[Ashen Nedra]

To Bammbamm:

 

I finished the game on nightmare playing the game with keyboard/mouse with a male elf (a character whose model is broken, is ugly as hell btw, as everybody and his sister knows now, thanks to Lord Surinen's efforts. 35 hours to stop hurting and swearing while killing time with this game.

 

Ended up not using the tactical camera at all, except for rare occurrences at the beginning of dragon/arcane horror fights.

 

I'm still pissed that I preordered and I will never, ever do so again. We were lied to our faces.  Dragon age Inquisition could have been a masterpiece.  as it is, it's a mediocre game on PC, and a bad console port.

 

The only thing preventing me from creating a Twitter account to make noise or contacting a Cleary alumni to initiate a class action is time and work.

Modifié par Ashen nedra, 07 janvier 2015 - 10:35 .

[BammBamm]

This "BammBamm" individual has made himself known to be a troll, only here to ridicule people and be a nuisance (like a fly on your face) so I wouldn't recommend even giving him any acknowledgement.  

just lol, whatever

 

 

To Bammbamm:

 

I finished the game on nightmare playing the game with keyboard/mouse with a male elf (a character whose model is broken, is ugly as hell btw, as everybody and his sister knows now, thanks to Lord Surinen's efforts. 35 hours to stop hurting and swearing while killing time with this game.

 

Ended up not using the tactical camera at all, except for rare occurrences at the beginning of dragon/arcane horror fights.

 

I'm still pissed that I preordered and I will never, ever do so again. We were lied to our faces.  Dragon age Inquisition could have been a masterpiece.  as it is, it's a mediocre game on PC, and a bad console port.

 

The only thing preventing me from creating a Twitter account to make noise or contacting a Cleary alumni to initiate a class action is time and work.

 

got no problem with your opinion. i got a problem with people that cant believe other people have other opinions (and have to try to make them unreliable because of this) and want to silence the feedback of such people while they are not in the slightest position to give any feedback because of the lack of own experience.

and no, a community concerns thread has not the sense to spread every OPINION from people without any kind of criticsm. yeah it would be so nice for some to be not interrupted in the believing that da:i is the worst game ever, but that would be useless for bioware.

[Ashen Nedra]

It's not the worst game ever, I think you're not understanding the time invested by people on this thread and the intensity of the frustration that being ignored can create.  Some people like me, only play RPGs now, some even only AAA RPGs.

 

Eaware's commercial practices -marketing and corporate bullshit if you prefer- is kind of a big deal for those kind of people.

 

You can't expect such people to react perfectly calmly to someone 'intruding' on a thread dedicated to 'Pc community concerns'...

[BammBamm]

It's not the worst game ever, I think you're not understanding the time invested by people on this thread and the intensity of the frustration that being ignored can create.  Some people like me, only play RPGs now, some even only AAA RPGs.

 

Eaware's commercial practices -marketing and corporate bullshit if you prefer- is kind of a big deal for those kind of people.

 

You can't expect such people to react perfectly calmly to someone 'intruding' on a thread dedicated to 'Pc community concerns'...

 

i dont expect the people to be calm, but because of this sometimes a voice of reason is necessary. f.e. i'm pissed too about biowares communication, but i understand it. sometimes there is nothing to tell and to discuss with a lynch mob is not really constructive.

and yeah, commercial practices in the gaming industry (thats not only an ea or ubisoft thing) are ridiculous, the only way you can counter that is not riding the hype train, inform yourself properly and dont preorder. as long as you dont manage to do this you are part of the problem and not of the solution. but yeah, the same people that tear apart da:i praise witcher 3. nothing will change.

[Essorance]

• I recently downloaded FFXIV for the PC
• It was released over 4 years ago
• It was released on next gen consoles as well as PC
• If I press my left mouse button and my right mouse button simultaneously my character begins to locomote
• Amazing

[ShinsFortress]

None of us knows what the decision making process is like at Bioware. *snip*

 

I don't think many people at Bioware do either......

[Essorance]

i dont expect the people to be calm, but because of this sometimes a voice of reason is necessary. f.e. i'm pissed too about biowares communication, but i understand it. sometimes there is nothing to tell and to discuss with a lynch mob is not really constructive.

 

Oh ****** off. How much of a blatant BW PR rep are you? How much are they paying you?

 

Yes the whole 'lynch mob' mentality sucks. People are ganging up on BW to **** on their GOTY parade, boohoo. You know what would get my respect? One of the BW reps actually posting here like we're people (People who go to work, and then spend our money on their product). Is it so difficult to admit shortcomings? Is it so hard to just say things aren't in there which should have been and it's their bad? I'd still be pissed, but at least respect their honesty. All they are doing is damage control. Funneling all the hate (The warranted hate, I might add) into one big bottomless cesspit like a nice convenient sewage system for BW.

 

Sometimes there is nothing to tell because nothing has been done. You know what happens if my boss asks me if something has been done and I haven't done it? Hint: I don't sit there silently ignoring their requests. If nothing has been done (And nothing is planned) then I say so, and accept the consequences.

 

For any BW rep reading this (LOL) here are a few pointers of things you could elaborate on;

 

• What specifically is your current focus for improvements?
• What difficulties are currently being experienced for these improvements?
• What steps are you taking to overcome these difficulties?
• What timeline are you looking at? (Hint: 2015 Q1 is better than saying February 7th, 9:20pm)
• Recognise areas that could have been improved (Instead of going on twitter and saying "It's fine, **** off").
• Ask the community, publicly, (on your OFFICIAL forums, not twitter) what kind of DLC or additions they want but make no promises. Think of it as a brainstorm.
• Recgonise your mistakes, and apologise for your shortcomings and failed promises.

 

Come at me BW fanboys.

[Grasher]

he same people that tear apart da:i praise witcher 3. nothing will change.

 

Troll confirmed.

 

 

 

 

• If I press my left mouse button and my right mouse button simultaneously my character begins to locomote
• Amazing

 

 

You know I'm playing LA 2 classic now. It's the same here

[BammBamm]

Oh ****** off. How much of a blatant BW PR rep are you? How much are they paying you?

 

[Dubya75]

Oh ****** off. How much of a blatant BW PR rep are you? How much are they paying you?

 

Yes the whole 'lynch mob' mentality sucks. People are ganging up on BW to **** on their GOTY parade, boohoo. You know what would get my respect? One of the BW reps actually posting here like we're people (People who go to work, and then spend our money on their product). Is it so difficult to admit shortcomings? Is it so hard to just say things aren't in there which should have been and it's their bad? I'd still be pissed, but at least respect their honesty. All they are doing is damage control. Funneling all the hate (The warranted hate, I might add) into one big bottomless cesspit like a nice convenient sewage system for BW.

 

Sometimes there is nothing to tell because nothing has been done. You know what happens if my boss asks me if something has been done and I haven't done it? Hint: I don't sit there silently ignoring their requests. If nothing has been done (And nothing is planned) then I say so, and accept the consequences.

 

For any BW rep reading this (LOL) here are a few pointers of things you could elaborate on;

 

• What specifically is your current focus for improvements?
• What difficulties are currently being experienced for these improvements?
• What steps are you taking to overcome these difficulties?
• What timeline are you looking at? (Hint: 2015 Q1 is better than saying February 7th, 9:20pm)
• Recognise areas that could have been improved (Instead of going on twitter and saying "It's fine, **** off").
• Ask the community, publicly, (on your OFFICIAL forums, not twitter) what kind of DLC or additions they want but make no promises. Think of it as a brainstorm.
• Recgonise your mistakes, and apologise for your shortcomings and failed promises.

 

Come at me BW fanboys.

 

Absolutely agree. If Bioware treated us like people (who coincidentally are responsible for their success) then none of this **** storm would have happened. 

But Bioware is so far up their own whatsits, basking in their glory, that they have COMPLETELY lost touch with their fans.

 

The EA greed monster has got the best of them and the integrity spine has been ripped clean out.

[voteDC]

 i'm pissed too about biowares communication, but i understand it. 

I'm afraid I don't.

As others have pointed out in this thread, Bioware are communicating over Twitter and other social media, yet can not find the time to post here?

It's that fact that is draining people's patience. Why are Bioware not posting on their own official forum when they are willing to communicate elsewhere.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I'm afraid I don't.

As others have pointed out in this thread, Bioware are communicating over Twitter and other social media, yet can not find the time to post here?

It's that fact that is draining people's patience. Why are Bioware not posting on their own official forum when they are willing to communicate elsewhere.

This has been known since 2010, Bioware stated that they don't look at their official forums for feedback/fan response but others, specifically naming reddit. I'd link the quote, but I don't really feel like digging it up. So if you feel you aren't being heard here, head there as that's one of their preferred hubs. If you've joined within the last year or so, then you probably wouldn't know. But those who've been with the BSN back when it was the BSN, this is nothing new. Rather than complain about the communication outlet they prefer, why don't you try using them to get your point across rather than waiting here for an answer that most likely isn't going to come?