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[Snoozer87]

They should have used crowdfunding to fund the game, like star citizen has showed us is possible.

The best thing about this system is that you can work without an 'EA' breathing down your neck and the game can be done 'when it's done'

[rupok93]

worst part is, if they allowed modding these things would be fixed in like 2 days. Stuff like SKYUI would be made pretty quickly.

[rupok93]

They should have used crowdfunding to fund the game, like star citizen has showed us is possible.

The best thing about this system is that you can work without an 'EA' breathing down your neck and the game can be done 'when it's done'

Crowdfunding is a very bad idea. Honestly there hasn't been that many crowdfunded games that delivered what they promised, they are heavily prone to failure. Even star citizen barely has anything to show now, they showed a demo here and there but keep asking for money to buy ships for $100's. Honestly can't back things like that. I backed 2 kickstarter projects, never again.

[BammBamm]

They should have used crowdfunding to fund the game, like star citizen has showed us is possible.

The best thing about this system is that you can work without an 'EA' breathing down your neck and the game can be done 'when it's done'

 

better not use a game that doesnt exist as a good example........but people will never learn.

[Gwalchmai]

Oh thats because you probably didn't use an original Xbox©™ Controller. Please come again when you bought that one please. I can suggest you a list of the biggest retail stores near you...

Yes, I did research it afterwards and learned about needing the XBOX360 controller. I almost went looking for one then I thought... F-that! Just fix the PC version, please   I can't quite tell if your taking a shot at me or something is being lost in translation as English may be your 2nd language. To explain all the whining and crying going on it goes like this, the bigger the fan of DA then the bigger the disappointment; understand? Console people are fine with the game because it was made for them and its what they are used to (action/arcade/RPG's). Until its worked out of my system or I see that what I am saying is counter-productive (making me sick ) then I will continue to post. Gather around PC people for a group hug and a round of Kumbaya

[Endee]

Is it overclocked?

Nope, nothing is overclocked on my rig (i7 4790 3.6 GHz + MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with 16GB ram). Other than the random errorless crashing the game runs fine.

[Brogan]

OK, off to watch some football.

 

Hey, if anyone here has Twitter, I would be really interested to see what Laidlaw's reaction is to the curious inability to map to your 3rd and 4th mouse buttons.  I think his answer, now, in the midst of all this, might tell us alot about his involvement in the pc control scheme.

[Brogan]

Nope, nothing is overclocked on my rig (i7 4790 3.6 GHz + MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with 16GB ram). Other than the random errorless crashing the game runs fine.

 

Well crap, that was going to be my only suggestion.  And since I have the same card (Gigabyte G1 version), I guess I know what I have to look forward to once I start playing.

 

[jcmuki]

bioware could have done some many smart decision for the PC verison like

come out tell the truth that the game isn't optimize for pc yet and detail  plan one how they plan to fix it

or delay the pc verison release it a late date after the optimizate it

 

but they did neither, they keep saying it was built around the pc even near launch date when it clearly wasn't the case

and there has been almost a complete media blackout on a concise answer on that they are fixing, when patches are release,

what they are doing to address concerns, just a whole bunch of not answering questions answers

[Monica21]

Simply because the wrong people are at Bioware. The right people would have the backbone not to do it. The right people would be honest with their customer. The right people would be able to control their division. Full stop.

 

 

I don't know how things work at your company, but I may have 47 reasons not to do something, but since I'm often not the decision-maker, I don't get to decide. When my boss tells me to do something I have to do it unless it's immoral, unethical, or illegal. Otherwise I'm insubordinate. It doesn't have anything to do with having a backbone.

[Pen-N-Paper]

I know this thread is mainly about what Bioware should fix, and can patch that will make the game playable.  But there are decisions they have made that have radically changed the whole concept of what an RPG was supposed to be.  Almost all player decisions have been removed, or minimized.  Players are no longer in control of such basic things as deciding the stat allocation of their characters.  The choices for character classes has been dropped to a few cookie cutter clones.  I know most of our comparisons of the "good old days of Bioware" talk about DAO, but we can go back even farther.  Bioware showed us how to make a great RPG with the Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights series.  Those games all offered at least a score of possible player classes, without even considering the choice of multi-classing.  We could build our characters from the ground up, and they truly were ours.

 

Now, our characters are just playing a part in a script, with barely an illusion of free choice while we play.  I am guessing that Bioware could make a great animated movie, because that is what they are presenting us with.  After all of the complaints after DA2, I thought the developers said they were going to return to the roots of the company, and make a great Role Playing Game.  Instead, they have gone in just the opposite direction. 

 

I am going to play through this game...maybe even twice.  Will certainly enjoy it more if they patch all the concerns for PCs that are patchable.  But I can already see, this game is not going to be replayed over and over like my old BW games.  And because of that, I don't believe I am getting the same value that I used to from BW games.  I got fooled into believing the hype that this was going to be a PC game, built by PC gamers.  Never again.  The next BW game I buy, will be at least 6 months after its release, when I can get it at reduced price, and most of the patches have been created.

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[Snoozer87]

Crowdfunding is a very bad idea. Honestly there hasn't been that many crowdfunded games that delivered what they promised, they are heavily prone to failure. Even star citizen barely has anything to show now, they showed a demo here and there but keep asking for money to buy ships for $100's. Honestly can't back things like that. I backed 2 kickstarter projects, never again.

Respectfully I don't agree, they have showed us massive progress in the last year. The arena commander module is very good, the fps module, while still rudimetary, looks very solid.

They also give a TON of feedback about their developping process. It feels to me you don't really follow the development, you would see that this does work if you have the right people in the company. But I think that is the issue here, bioware does not have the right people anymore.

Anyway, to get back on topic here, the only way to make them listen is for their stock to drop. Hit them were it hurts, not just EA/bioware. But every company that thinks they can make a quick buck overhyping games and not delevering on promisses.

[jcmuki]

the official dragon age twitter just posted this

 

What an amazing launch week for #DAI. Thank you for being a part of it!

 

well thank you bioware for releasin a pc version of the game with poor stability, optimization, controls, and ui

proud to part of the clusterfuck /s

[Jamesgirl]

I think part of why this game release bothers me so much is that I feel that there were a lot of promises about this game, that as a PC gamer, were complete and utter lies!  This looks like a crappy console port , screwy controls and all.   I already regret pre-ordering this game though I am hoping a patch makes it playable just so it's not a total waste of money  I own every Bioware game ever made for PC and for the most part I could rely on them to make the types of games I love. That is clearly in the past and  I need to look to another company (indie seems to be the way to go lately) to get the games I enjoy.  All the larger companies are focusing on console and console type games and as this game indicates, ignoring PC gamers as unimportant.  It is very difficult to find good RPG games with the rich storytelling that Bioware use to do so well.   I am just disappointed in the trend of gaming lately and this feels like a nail in the coffin of the Bioware that was.  For those people who love this game, great!  I'm sure there is a lot of good things about this game,  but this isn't the game I was expecting at all.

[jcmuki]

if you want to play good pc rpg game play Diviniy Original Sin, its like what if there was a Dragon Age Origins 2 

its fun, plays like an actual CRPG 

[Jamesgirl]

I think I will go back to Divinity Original Sin. It does play like a CRPG  should. And it runs perfectly on my computer.

[Ashen Nedra]

To Pen-and-paper :  Do you roughly know the profit "allocation" - so to speak- between sales on consoles and sales on the PC on  a multi-platform game?

 

I'm asking that because I have the feeling that "consolization" (sorry for the inelegant neologism) of traditional PC games is a general trend more than a problem specific to EA/Bioware. Could also be explained by the piracy thing.  I have a feeling that the singleplayer PC-game is really on its way to becoming a niche market and that it's somehow being done deliberately.

 

Are we even in a position to hurt them financially to make them react?  PR isn't my forte so I would be at a total loss trying to quantify the financial consequences of a PR backlash.  I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

[Pen-N-Paper]

bioware could have done some many smart decision for the PC verison like

come out tell the truth that the game isn't optimize for pc yet and detail  plan one how they plan to fix it

or delay the pc verison release it a late date after the optimizate it

 

but they did neither, they keep saying it was built around the pc even near launch date when it clearly wasn't the case

and there has been almost a complete media blackout on a concise answer on that they are fixing, when patches are release,

what they are doing to address concerns, just a whole bunch of not answering questions answers

 

the official dragon age twitter just posted this

 

What an amazing launch week for #DAI. Thank you for being a part of it!

 

[jcmuki]

developers neglating pc gamers makes me worry about the pc version of Arkham Knight, hopefully rocksteady doesn't pull a bioware and **** up the control for pc

i mean arkham asyulm and city's pc control weren't perfect but they worked, hopefully its the same this time around 

*fingers crossed*

[Pen-N-Paper]

I don't know how things work at your company, but I may have 47 reasons not to do something, but since I'm often not the decision-maker, I don't get to decide. When my boss tells me to do something I have to do it unless it's immoral, unethical, or illegal. Otherwise I'm insubordinate. It doesn't have anything to do with having a backbone.

Well, as far as the Division goes (which is going to be where the problem is accessed) Darrah and Laidlaw are at the top.

 

The staff do not usually get fired. It is the manager of the staff (in my company). And finger pointing higher up (say Bioware blaming EA) only gets you out the door faster.  

 

Time for Bioware to wear the Big Boy Pants; and time for some people to accept that Bioware are not the victims: the customers are.

[jcmuki]

 

bioware:

"no we aren't abandoning the pc gamer"

*sneaks away to life boat as the ship sinks withe pc gamers*

[Pen-N-Paper]

I think part of why this game release bothers me so much is that I feel that there were a lot of promises about this game, that as a PC gamer, were complete and utter lies!  

Silence will project that, Mr. Cosby.

 

And, Jamesgirl, you have every right to feel cheated. It is you who is at the low value of this transaction because you are not receiving the goods you thought in good faith you would receive. Fixing it, and fixing it quickly, does NOT negate the fact that the value proposition, to you, has been broken. And the silence is just a demonstration of bad faith after your good faith was extended. You feel cheated because you have been cheated upon. Your partner in this transaction owes you a confession and an explanation, if the relationship is to be salvaged. It is the least Bioware can do.

 

And, aside from the relationship part - meaning whether you continue the relationship of business or not later down the road - you deserve restitution.

[Really Sad Panther]

bioware could have done some many smart decision for the PC verison like

come out tell the truth that the game isn't optimize for pc yet and detail  plan one how they plan to fix it

or delay the pc verison release it a late date after the optimizate it

 

but they did neither, they keep saying it was built around the pc even near launch date when it clearly wasn't the case

and there has been almost a complete media blackout on a concise answer on that they are fixing, when patches are release,

what they are doing to address concerns, just a whole bunch of not answering questions answers

Can you imagine the rage if they delayed the PC version, it would make the ME3 ending fallout look like a minor disagreement. I don't think we are going to hear anything until after the weekend.

[RedTape]

Honestly its hard to believe that its already been a week and not a single patch has come out for this game on the PC. You can clearly see which platforms they favor....

[jcmuki]

Can you imagine the rage if they delayed the PC version, it would make the ME3 ending fallout look like a minor disagreement. I don't think we are going to hear anything until after the weekend.

i would rather rage at pc version delay knowing they are trying to make it better than rage at the current state of the pc version knowing that they lied and really didn't care enought about their pc customers to tell the truth

 

fyi its alread been a week, no day 1 patch-even through i hate those, or any details about when a patch might be coming