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WELL, we dont have the news about patch 3 yet, but Pillars of Eternity will launch 26 March. Since I do think that we wont have a patch that will fix everything in Inquisition anytime soon, at least now we all have a date to finally get some amazing deep RPG in the near future.
Even sooner ...
Darkest Dungeon beta starts 3 Feb on Steam ... 
If anyone was expecting a complete overhaul of the controls in a patch, they were chasing unicorns.
Never ever say never ever. 
Stranger things have happened. Ever thought they would go take a second look at the ME3 ending? Because I certainly did not.
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After coming back here to check if a new patch is coming, I read the last 20-30 pages of the thread and now I lost all remaining hope. Dont know if I gonna finish this game and that would be a new experience for me, a sad one...
I agree that if you are looking for an old school D&D approach to gaming... or even AD&D you will be left wanting. Still you have to finish it. You absolutely have to. Otherwise you may get that nostalgic pang later on when you are packing away things and find the game box. You may be lead by thoughts of "why didn't I ever finish this?" to reinstall. And then you'll have to relive it. So treat it like a band aid and keep pulling. Let the scar be a reminder.
Oh, it's back?
Unlocked. That's.... interesting.
Oh, it's back?
Unlocked. That's.... interesting.
http://forum.bioware...rns/?p=18367945
http://forum.bioware...rns/?p=18368052
Perfect summation.
Wow, a lot of hate in this forum. Making stuff takes time you guys, and they just came back from a holiday break; Maybe if you guys didn't sound ready to bite someone's ear off or something, they'd feel more inclined to talk on here, as opposed to somewhere else.
Do unto others ..... as the saying goes.
Ironic.
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I went back and had a look at previous DA games' UI's because there is something I just don't like about DAI's...and what I discovered is that suddenly the game is designed for toddlers with overblown icons and a UI that looks way too busy! The abilities bar in particular - just look at all the wasted space and unnecessary rubbish filling up the screen. The designers who came up with this clearly did not bother even looking at what the previous games look like. Seems more like they ran with a quick layout drawn on a cocktail napkin. Bioware.....REALLY???!
From this...(functional and non-intrusive)
To this...(still fine and in my opinion, the least intrusive)
To whatever the hell this is....(very much INTRUSIVE)
Bioware "devs", you taking notes on this? Your UI for your brand new game is bloody awful! You got it right twice, why mess it up on the third?
Origins and DA2 UI was much less intruding and much more functional, we could actually CUSTOMIZE IT!!
The new UI in Inquisition is dumbed-down in every way, but I guess it's easy to use for toddlers. A shame that Inquisition got this UI, it drags the game down on PC 
Wow, a lot of hate in this forum. Making stuff takes time you guys, and they just came back from a holiday break; Maybe if you guys didn't sound ready to bite someone's ear off or something, they'd feel more inclined to talk on here, as opposed to somewhere else.
If THEY would talk on here as opposed to somewhere else WE wouldn't have the munchies.
( ... does best Mike Tyson impersonation ... )
I have this desire to see if I can sum up the general feeling hereabouts - mine, at least, if nothing else. If I'm not too far afield, it goes kinda like this:
"Hey! Here's that car you've been waiting for!"
"Awesome! You've already been paid so I'll just take it."
"Cool".
"Uh... 'scuze me?"
"Yeah?"
"I need the keys. ...and there's no upholstery in here. Only one pedal and half a steering wheel! One of the tires is from a bicycle and the gas tank is a bucket duct-taped to the side with a hose!"
"And? You saw me drivin' it. It runs."
"It runs?!"
"Sure. Plenty of customers drivin' this model."
"What about the rest? The upholstery, for instance?"
"You got a blanket don't'cha? You must know somebody if you don't, yeah?"
"A blanket?"
"Towels would do, if'n you ain't got a blanket."
"I want proper upholstery. Tires. Gas tank. A brake pedal and a whole steering wheel!"
"Well... those are optional extras."
"...What?"
"Tell you what though... give me six months and I can probably find you another tire. Might be a truck tire, but it should fit."
"...Should?"
"You can have that for free though!"
"I see." *Sighs* "Dammit! I also want a floor in the back! Where's the speedometer?"
"My research said people didn't really want those."
"Why is the back seat two lawn chairs bolted - badly, I might add - to the frame?"
"It was a design choice, added for both aesthetic reasons and as an additional air conditioning solution."
"You can fix all this, right?"
"I might have the upholstery somewhere... maybe out back of the shop. I might have to wrestle the dog for it, though. He's kinda mean, I might need an extra twenty to attempt it."
"This was your screw-up!"
"I beg to differ. You bought three other cars from me and they were all junk too. Technically it's your fault for buying my crap and believing that I possess any consistent integrity or the ability to stop making promises I never have any intention of keeping. I'm not responsible if you have no retention skills or self-control."
"It ...runs, you say?"
"Here's your complimentary vice-grips for the lug nut. Have a nice day. Don't call us, we'll call you."
Wow, a lot of hate in this forum. Making stuff takes time you guys, and they just came back from a holiday break; Maybe if you guys didn't sound ready to bite someone's ear off or something, they'd feel more inclined to talk on here, as opposed to somewhere else.
Damn I want to work for Bioware where you get 30 days of vacation just for christmas/new years. Its been a ****** month, it doesnt take that much effort to say 'yea, we're still working on stuff.' After the crapfest of DAII I should have known better than to think Bioware might actually make a decent game, but I allowed myself to buy into the hype and the glowing reviews.
And the items? Rings, belts amueletts are a joke! It is 2014/2015! Be creative! Games from 1980s had rings with +1 to magic or +2 to strenght. Now we get 30% more dmg to a skill, or more CritDmg/CritChance.... great.
The majority of rings don't work anyway.
Yeah, I was shocked. /sarcasm
The new UI in Inquisition is dumbed-down in every way, but I guess it's easy to use for toddlers. A shame that Inquisition got this UI, it drags the game down on PC
It amazes me that you people want to be treated with respect, but anyone outside your little group doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. This is why the devs don't talk here. This is why you deserve to be ignored.
I'm a relatively new PC gamer. I'm playing Inquisition on PC. I'm playing Inquisition with a controller. I can handle the mouse-and-keyboard controls, but the game was clearly designed for controllers. Yes, this is unfortunate. Yes, BioWare was a bit misleading. Yes, I'd like more info from them, if only to invalidate the nonsense spewed in this thread. But I'm a mature adult, and I recognize that the devs are humans, and some things take time, and many things aren't black-and-white. The absurd vitriol spewed here, framed as a self-righteous "moral crusade against corruption", disgusts me.
It amazes me that you people want to be treated with respect, but anyone outside your little group doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. This is why the devs don't talk here. This is why you deserve to be ignored.
Nah, it was not like this when it started. It was EAware's silence that caused this.
The people that will not be respected now is EAware, there are a lot of companies out there that will respect the consumer.
I have to admit, during my Origins/DA2 playthroughs, I didn't use half of the PC control stuff people say they miss in Inquisition. Does that make me a toddler? 'Cause if so, I'm-a need some juice and some zwieback up in this ******.
(In all seriousness, if a feature you like from previous games isn't in this game, you have every right to be disappointed. But you can be disappointed without turning it into an e-peen-measuring contest. S'all I'm saying.)
Their forum.
Their thread.
Created to communicate with and obtain feedback from their customers.
: helpful information or criticism that is given to someone to say what can be done to improve a performance, product, etc.
: something (such as information or electricity) that is returned to a machine, system, or process
: an annoying and unwanted sound caused by signals being returned to an electronic sound system
Now, while a lot of said feedback sounds like def#3, by what definition of sanity do you create a vehicle to obtain feedback (def#1) from your customers, ask for feedback, and then ignore it because you don't like what they are telling you?
.... by what definition of sanity do you create a vehicle to obtain feedback from your customers, ask for feedback, and then ignore it because you don't like what they are telling you?
I think it is pretty simple.
1) Back at the beginning they gathered feedback.
2) When it was clear to them they were in no position (financially) to deliver a solution to that feedback, they stopped participating.
It is okay to ask for feedback, not like it, and move on. BUT ... and this is what frosts me .... have the common decency to tell us you've moved on and can't/won't do anything to resolve our issues.
Wow, a lot of hate in this forum. Making stuff takes time you guys, and they just came back from a holiday break; Maybe if you guys didn't sound ready to bite someone's ear off or something, they'd feel more inclined to talk on here, as opposed to somewhere else.
When you have been here since early November and seen the willingness to support Bioware go from positive to negative due to Bioware's direct inaction, then it is completely understandable.
Read this forum for the first few days after Darrah started it. Then hit the "Show only Bioware posts" button. See anything? What can we do to get a response? Nothing. That is why people are angry!!!!!
Never ever say never ever.
I agree that if you are looking for an old school D&D approach to gaming... or even AD&D you will be left wanting. Still you have to finish it. You absolutely have to. Otherwise you may get that nostalgic pang later on when you are packing away things and find the game box. You may be lead by thoughts of "why didn't I ever finish this?" to reinstall. And then you'll have to relive it. So treat it like a band aid and keep pulling. Let the scar be a reminder.
After i shook the Forum-brings-me-down phase off I will finish the game. I just played an hour and entered Emerald Woods (?) this huge Forrest. Bioware created such a beauitful world which really pulls me in but the game on itself could have been so much better. They had the chance to make the best RPG ever! Literally ever! The story is fine, Characters are fine too, this universe is awesome since Baldurs Gate 1 and it never looked better! Imagine this game with tweaked and improved DA:O mechanics and a deeper skill tree. Doing that makes me just sad
And I am waiting for Pillars of Eternity almost a year now, cant wait! But what is this Game Box you are talking about? I have a Origin Key! Do you mean those huge boxes that looked really cool with a handbook and some extra goodies like a poster and stuff like that?
It amazes me that you people want to be treated with respect, but anyone outside your little group doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. This is why the devs don't talk here. This is why you deserve to be ignored.
I'm a relatively new PC gamer. I'm playing Inquisition on PC. I'm playing Inquisition with a controller. I can handle the mouse-and-keyboard controls, but the game was clearly designed for controllers. Yes, this is unfortunate. Yes, BioWare was a bit misleading. Yes, I'd like more info from them, if only to invalidate the nonsense spewed in this thread. But I'm a mature adult, and I recognize that the devs are humans, and some things take time, and many things aren't black-and-white. The absurd vitriol spewed here, framed as a self-righteous "moral crusade against corruption", disgusts me.
They were dishonest prior to release when they marketed the game to be a pc first title, made on the pc for the pc gamers all that nonsense. If they would have come out and said we are developing for 5 platforms simultaneously and there's going to be some tradeoffs, for example it'll be better to use a controller than the k/m on the pc. People would have been pissed off but at the end of the day its their game and they're going to develop it how they see fit. They chose instead to bullshit people and now the pitchforks are out. There's a lot wrong with this game that needs to be addressed like these ****** menus. What genius comes up with the idea that you need to back out of every menu to go to a new one? That's basic stuff that shows this game was not ready for release and it was pushed out the door. You're seeing this more and more with blatant attempts to monetize these games when they're not even finished yet. That's what's really disgusting not people demanding that they get the product they were promised.
It amazes me that you people want to be treated with respect, but anyone outside your little group doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. This is why the devs don't talk here. This is why you deserve to be ignored.
I'm a relatively new PC gamer. I'm playing Inquisition on PC. I'm playing Inquisition with a controller. I can handle the mouse-and-keyboard controls, but the game was clearly designed for controllers. Yes, this is unfortunate. Yes, BioWare was a bit misleading. Yes, I'd like more info from them, if only to invalidate the nonsense spewed in this thread. But I'm a mature adult, and I recognize that the devs are humans, and some things take time, and many things aren't black-and-white. The absurd vitriol spewed here, framed as a self-righteous "moral crusade against corruption", disgusts me.
No wonder your head is shoved so far up Bioware's Ass that your licking the back of their eyeballs, your not a PC Gamer but a jazzed up Console Commoner, I'd wager you didn't even build your own PC and got a prebuilt one instead.
If he's playing the game on a PC, then he would, by definition, be a PC gamer.
Yep! CONTAINMENT and Pen-and-Paper (user, retired PR professional) predicted this **** and analyzed the business rationale behind it like...3 months ago?
Guys look it up! It's a PR technique! He was even doxxed as a result.
Here read that and notice the date:
Posted by Pen-N-Paper on 07 December 2014 - 12:07 AM
Jackal19851111, on 07 Dec 2014 - 12:57 AM, said:
Regardless of his connection to Bioware he is not entitled to offer any answers so he will not, I'm suggesting you focus on the DAI team themselves for "polite interrogation"
*sigh* How did we come to this? Fans being forced to chase after the devs on twitter for updates and answers, when these updates and answers should be on the forum and easy to find for anyone using google.
The one advantage Bioware has with complaints here is the walled garden of the forum. It is not happening in open space like it does on Twitter or Facebook or on other forums like Steam or for other game developers - CDRedProjekt for example. Wowzers there are a lot of angry people not just here.
But here: threads can be
Locked.
Archived.
Ignored.
And posters with legitimate complaints banned.
Think of this place as the incinerator of PC gamer complaints. Bring your suggestion slips over and toss them into the fire. Have a nice day.
Cannot do that in the public eye. And it might surprise Bioware to know there is a large PC gamer public on The Internet.
Also the focus on sales is during the first 10 weeks, We are entering week #4. Pre-orders have returned, undoubtably knocking down the "almost" level of first week sales of DA2 (to quote one statistic). I anticipate, based upon the rage all around the Net, actual sales to mirror DA2 results - declining week by week - rather than the valley seen in DA:Origins sales figures. 10 week sales were $3.76 Million for DA:O Considerably less for DA2.
DA3 has had a 3 year marketing campaign going - which will eat into profit with DA3 that did not happen with DA2 (which was coasting on the success of DA:O. I do expect heads to roll. Sadly, those heads will get new jobs by waving their GotY award around and blame EA for their departure.... and start working for other RPG developers.
No wonder your head is shoved so far up Bioware's Ass that your licking the back of their eyeballs, your not a PC Gamer but a jazzed up Console Commoner, I'd wager you didn't even build your own PC and got a prebuilt one instead.
I'd like to claim that I build my own machines as a demonstration to all of my superiority, but the truth is I do it 'cause I'm a miser. More bang for the buck that way.
I'd happily trade the sweat inducing struggle of trying to seat the cpu fan, the whole time hoping the motherboard doesn't crack cause the hellish pins won't hold simultaneously, for example, for a pre-built rig if they were comparable on the price/performance ratio.
Sorry. Am rambling. Carry on.
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