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#10476
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It is hard to believe that anyone would spend a red cent on the multiplayer in this game. Playing it is a questionable venture, but paying for it... 400 dollars... not even for a game, but a part of a game. 

 

It beggars belief.

It's actually the business models of micro-transactions: most people don't use them, assh...sorry, addicts pay a lot.  Like drug trafficking. first hit is always free.


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Could you elaborate please, I'm curious?  This is not a tricky or leading question.  I don't know the first thing about programming; I did notice on the forums that most AMD users seem to have a lot less glitches and bugs, though. 

 

That whole message is just based on a lot of technical details that are wrong. For example, there is no such thing as 3DX, and it certainly is not what everyone used for game development on any console ever. I assume they actually meant Direct3D, but that's wrong too--the only consoles that is used on are the various Xboxes. It is on PC, but the fact that they can switch to Mantle for AMD cards really has no bearing on the Direct3D implementation. I'd say more, but programming issues are the kind of thing that you don't really elaborate on with non-programmers because it just confuses the issue more.

 

Ah sorry, I checked your likes: you're the guy who thinks that 'this thread is disgusting'.  Never mind. So, you like to waddle in filth, do you? Naughty, naughty boy...

 

That has nothing to do with the post you quoted. I saw someone post extremely inaccurate second-hand information about game programming. I actually know things about that topic, so I spoke up.

 

And this thread *is* disgusting--see all of the people who yelled at Bioware for their silence that are now yelling at them for their communication--but that has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

 

Will you say the same thing if your new car has problems ?

When you buy a car, you expect it to work and have all the options you paid for.

Why changing this behavior toward other products like video games then ?

 

What in the world does this have to do with pointing out inaccurate programming information from a forum poster?

 

 

no, thank you.  Others already did.  Check the Web, Forbes, this thread. I'm tired of arguing. I was a die hard fan too you know. For 15 years or so.

 

 

You can't cite something as a fact, and just back it up with a nebulous "it's been proven." Nobody here has proved anything except that some games sold better than DAI. We have no numbers.



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Ah sorry, I checked your likes: you're the guy who thinks that 'this thread is disgusting'.  Never mind. So, you like to waddle in filth, do you? Naughty, naughty boy...

 

Not that anyone would be coming into the thread trying to derail or devolve it, right? No wai! :)
 
In any case, I'm glad there's enough maturity left in this thread to keep it sensible and focused. :)
 
I'm not "holding my breath" for them to make things right- I definitely concur that their silence is indicative that they've opted for "damage control" rather than doing what needs to be done. Either they improve the controls in this game for PC- or I get my money refunded to me. It's not rocket science- and I'm definitely not just going to "fade away" after investing money into this game. 
 
That said, I'm also getting rather tired of the "baiters" who apparently can't read the OP and/or title of the thread dropping in and out with their poisonous crap, too. If we're playing on a PC, and we have a concern- this is the appropriate thread for us to voice them. 
 
If you don't have any issues, or you're simply in "disagreement", voice it elsewhere- apparently this isn't the place to do so. Why are you spending your time on the forums "trolling" people if you could be spending it in the game playing?

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#10479
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Not that anyone would be coming into the thread trying to derail or devolve it, right? No wai! :)
 
In any case, I'm glad there's enough maturity left in this thread to keep it sensible and focused. :)
 
I'm not "holding my breath" for them to make things right- I definitely concur that their silence is indicative that they've opted for "damage control" rather than doing what needs to be done. Either they improve the controls in this game for PC- or I get my money refunded to me. It's not rocket science- and I'm definitely just going to "fade away" after investing money into this game. 
 
That said, I'm also getting rather tired of the "baiters" who apparently can't read the OP and/or title of the thread dropping in and out with their poisonous crap, too. If we're playing on a PC, and we have a concern- this is the appropriate thread for us to voice them. 
 
If you don't have any issues, or you're simply in "disagreement", voice it elsewhere- apparently this isn't the place to do so. Why are you spending your time on the forums "trolling" people if you could be spending it in the game playing?

 

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#10480
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Ashen, I am almost out of likes myself. Lot of good stuff last night/yesterday.

I thought this was amusing:

........And this thread *is* disgusting--see all of the people who yelled at Bioware for their silence that are now yelling at them for their communication........

*looks around*

Does anyone see any "yelling" at Bioware in response to that tweet? From what I can tell, it's been met mostly with indifference, or a sense that at least there is something to look forward to.

Ah well, happy championship Sunday to all.
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Y'know, I'm honestly puzzled how some folk talk about their third or fourth playthroughs.  I simply cannot see any appreciable replay value to this game as it currently stands.  The endless running and empty fetch quests, the breaking of the resource collection early in the game - I still can't specialize my Inquisitor or finish that "Favour of the Dalish' thing, or two-thirds of those damn requisition requests that same chica (at every camp!  Time travel and cloning in Thedas!) sends me on.  No coats, camps, prisons, surveys, or tower or garden for Skyhold.  The prospect of endless silent trudging to do little more than end up bringing about the depopulation of the majority of animal species in every area just leaves me cold.  Not a single stinking fennic survives the passing of my party.  They go hostile more than the red templars so it might just be their own fault. I digress. Never mind playing as a warrior or blade-wielding rogue. Tedious gameplay with either.

 

Then I can pop in here to sift through twenty posts of some self-appointed self-righteous tsk-tsker defending EA's honor by calling every legit complaint sour grapes or infantile/over-privileged wailing.  Me arse!  If the bloody game was worth playing more than once, I'd be playing it and not bitching about it in this lovely toxic playground. When Bioware itself intimates that the next patch with be damned huge, what does that tell people? 

 

"Lots of fixes", the man said.

 

"Lots of fixes" for the greatest self-masturabtory bestest RPG in the history of humankind game of the year?  Impossibru!

 

Yet these imaginary glitches, bugs and outright broken bits are all over-exaggerations and whines and -what, toxic hallucinations?

 

I wanted to play this game.  I am immensely pleased I didn't pay for it.  I'm pissed that someone else did, (she also can't play it for pretty much the same reasons) but now I know for certain the damn thing was not remotely worth 80 bucks. 

 

These problems - and this game has plenty - are not simply cosmetic.  I still play UT99, so I can take or leave how pretty the game looks.  But then again UT99 has never crashed on me and still works flawlessly under Win8.  That's with fan-made mods on, too.  The AI is also light-years ahead and I can play it SP or MP if I like - and no bloody microtransactions.  Can say the same about UT2004 and UT3.  No crashs, all still work, tons of fan maps/mods/skins and no problems.  Still fun as hell, too.  Even ME3, with its retcons and idiotic ending (which can now modded to the Nth degree and it's war assets...  war assets.... "Power/Influence"...  naw... coincidence) is still a superior game.  DA2 may be a little repetitive, but the combat is superior and the characters still engaging (ahh, Aveline, my ginger tank) and I don't recall a sh!tton of filler in DA2, either. 

 

When this game is fixed, works properly without a stoopid controller on PC and ceases to crash every seven seconds, actually allows me to finish the idiot quests it mandates as so bleedin' important I'll stop complaining.  All I want is the friggin' reason to not have to do so!

 

So far, zip. 


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Ashen, I am almost out of likes myself. Lot of good stuff last night/yesterday.

I thought this was amusing:

*looks around*

Does anyone see any "yelling" at Bioware in response to that tweet? From what I can tell, it's been met mostly with indifference, or a sense that at least there is something to look forward to.

Ah well, happy championship Sunday to all.

Everyone has a freind who promises to buy the next round of drinks and never doe's.  This is how i feel about booware, i'll believe it when i see it.


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#10483
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Everyone has a freind who promises to buy the next round of drinks and never doe's.  This is how i feel about booware, i'll believe it when i see it.

 

All any of us can do is hope- and I agree that when I see the changes I'll believe they're doing the right thing, too. We've all invested money in this game as well, and we all share a common goal of wanting to see this game "fixed" (the list is long and varied, but it's all valid concerns).


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Could you elaborate please, I'm curious?  This is not a tricky or leading question.  I don't know the first thing about programming; I did notice on the forums that most AMD users seem to have a lot less glitches and bugs, though. 

AMD has a much smaller market share, which is probably why there are less complaints from AMD users.



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you should try the anime 'chronicles of Lodoss war', disturbed Jim, if you haven't already.  Superb, intelligent, god-like dragons at the center of the plot.

Smaug from Hobbit is also so badass and let's not forget the dragons of Baldur's gate specially the black one who manipulate you, haha.



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Smaug from Hobbit is also so badass and let's not forget the dragons of Baldur's gate specially the black one who manipulate you, haha.

 

Ruth

 

http://www.google.co...421683203401170



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AMD has a much smaller market share, which is probably why there are less complaints from AMD users.

 

I hope you wiped before pulling that out. For every six nvidia users there are four AMD users. 

 

A more likely reason is that the Frostbite 3 engine is (for better or worse) designed and optimized for AMD GPUs and many AMD users opt-in to use Mantle, a far more advanced and stable graphics API than the certainly buggy and sometimes unreliable DX11.

 

And it's "fewer complaints" not "less complaints". 



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Smaug from Hobbit is also so badass and let's not forget the dragons of Baldur's gate specially the black one who manipulate you, haha.

 

When it comes to Dragons, lets not forget about (The Witcher spoilers)

 

Spoiler



#10489
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When it comes to Dragons, lets not forget about (The Witcher spoilers)

 

Spoiler

Man i tried every which wway to try n bang Saskia too,but nothing i ever did worked.

 



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I'd like to invite everyone who plays Bioware games on PC's to a group I just created- it's brand new, but hoping we can get together for discussions and sharing. The intent is so that we still have a place to share common ideas/goals/beliefs without worrying about thread derailments or locking here. If anyone's interested in Admin/Mod please let me know, as I've no interest in "controlling" anything- rather just wanting to gather everyone together :)

 

http://forum.bioware...774-pc-players/


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Man i tried every which wway to try n bang Saskia too,but nothing i ever did worked.

 

Yeah she couldn't be banged, and she only likes dwarves (ewww) anyway..... ;)



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Smaug from Hobbit is also so badass and let's not forget the dragons of Baldur's gate specially the black one who manipulate you, haha.

 

 

Firkraag (wasn't it red, though?)! best dragon battle in a video game for a long time (and BG2 wad actually my first PC game ever).  Felt in love with the game, Pc gaming and BW, lost my tan, didn't finish my 'thesis' till next semester.  aaaaahh good times!!

 

The best battle in BG2 was the tough team of baddies (two liches, high-level vampires, demons beholder, you name it) you needed a rare gem to unlock.


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I'd like to invite everyone who plays Bioware games on PC's to a group I just created- it's brand new, but hoping we can get together for discussions and sharing. The intent is so that we still have a place to share common ideas/goals/beliefs without worrying about thread derailments or locking here. If anyone's interested in Admin/Mod please let me know, as I've no interest in "controlling" anything- rather just wanting to gather everyone together :)

 

http://forum.bioware...774-pc-players/

 

 

 

 

Done.  Thank you.  As I am a dirty Frenchie, ,I can't create thread or groups in the English speaking forums on the BSN apparently, but I was thinking about the same thing this very morning.  Thank you again!


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Does anyone see any "yelling" at Bioware in response to that tweet? From what I can tell, it's been met mostly with indifference, or a sense that at least there is something to look forward to.

 

I seriously considered multiquoting the extremely easy to find examples for you, but on second thought you'd need to be willfully ignorant to miss them, and you can't argue with the willfully ignorant. 

 

I just wish it were as easy to ignore a whole thread as it is to ignore a single user.



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I'd like to invite everyone who plays Bioware games on PC's to a group I just created- it's brand new, but hoping we can get together for discussions and sharing. The intent is so that we still have a place to share common ideas/goals/beliefs without worrying about thread derailments or locking here. If anyone's interested in Admin/Mod please let me know, as I've no interest in "controlling" anything- rather just wanting to gather everyone together :)

 

http://forum.bioware...774-pc-players/

 

I am soo there.

 

Thank you.


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I seriously considered multiquoting the extremely easy to find examples for you, but on second thought you'd need to be willfully ignorant to miss them, and you can't argue with the willfully ignorant. 

 

I just wish it were as easy to ignore a whole thread as it is to ignore a single user.

Seriously, you again?  What have we done to you?  Do you own a lot of EA stock? A relative working at BW mayhap?

 

Come on, talk to us, man, unload this burden from your chest


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Firkraag (wasn't it red, though?)! best dragon battle in a video game for a long time (and BG2 wad actually my first PC game ever).  Felt in love with the game, Pc gaming and BW, lost my tan, didn't finish my 'thesis' till next semester.  aaaaahh good times!!

 

The best battle in BG2 was the tough team of baddies (two liches, high-level vampires, demons beholder, you name it) you needed a rare gem to unlock.

 

 Hahahahahaha! BG2 was actually my third PC game I've ever played. First one was Fallout 2 and second one was Jagged Alliance 2...Hmmm...I guess I had a fixation on 2's... But hey! At least back then, having "2" at the end of the title meant improvement and not downgrade.


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#10498
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I still remember the answer to the riddle-the princess is 40, the prince is 30 ^_^


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User

@BioMarkDarrah is there any way to destroy/sell old schematics that are clogging up the UI?

 

Mark Darrah @BioMarkDarrah

I don't think so but that is a good idea.

 

User

@BioMarkDarrah will you guys add the option to reuse characters we made in DAI for sequential playthroughs?

 

Mark Darrah @BioMarkDarrah

we are looking into appearance sharing so that would save chargen time.


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Ok friends,
I spent. Some time talking with some guys who really knows about programming and stuff like that. Two of them are working in two different bige studios and they told me some bad news.
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Hmm.... 

 

Mr. Laidlaw mentioned that from the start Bio would develop DAI for all five platforms. BIO game designers faced the following:

 

Two of the five are Old Gen consoles, now considered to be low on CPU and GPU power, with a small memory footprint and disk space that ranges from a start (10 years ago) of 60GB to recent upgrades (PS3 slim) of 500GB. I think I'm safe in saying that the 360 suffered in a similar way.

 

The remaining three platforms are the two Next Gen consoles and the PC. The Next Gen consoles have AMD semi-custom APUs (jaguar core based) and the PC comes with a combination of Intel/AMD CPUs / APUs and/or a nVidia or AMD GPU. Adding to this mix is that the discreet GPUs installed with the PC come in different flavours (ie: gpu power, models, video memory..etc.)

 

Mantle, as you say, is a low level API, that bypasses Microsoft's "universal" DirectX 10/11 and is designed to "talk to the metal". This approach gains them a 10-15% performance improvement ( basically you have eliminated the DirectX overhead).

 

PS4 uses the Orbis OS, a fork of FREEBSD with two graphic APIs... while the Microsoft XB1 Operating System is Hyper-V.  Hyper-V is Microsoft's answer to VMWare and VirtualBox. All three can create virtual machines but the latter two run under Windows while HYPER-V is a windows type server that you boot up and can then run any other virtual machine(s). Hyper-V does add some overhead. For those curious go here: http://msdn.microsof...(v=bts.10).aspx

 

Your item 5 is a bit fuzzy.

PCs with nVidia discreet graphic cards don't use an emulator nor can they run AMD's mantle API. PCs use graphic drivers installed for their specific GPUs discreet or integrated.

 

I agree with you that the Old Gen consoles are not equipped to properly handle such a huge game as DAI both in terms of CPU power and GPU memory and processing requirements. In my view it is this reason why we have the current hairstyle complaints and the number of "game cuts". The original game design simply would not fit into these consoles.

 

Patch 2 was designed to fix a slew of problems but also created new ones. Patch 2 forced the game to run with Old Gen console graphic quality presets. A workaround was developed then a hotfix was issued. I'm not sure what you mean by "..the problem was deeper.." unless you are referring to game performance.

 

As to "...repack almost the entire game..." , I'm not sure what you means either. Certainly, there exists performance issues, which I understand are being addressed. I also agree with you that the game target platforms are varied enough to easily generate play issues that are very complez to fix. Bio, however, will see no VALUE to them in re-engineer the game but will concentrate on what can be done with minimum cost and time.

 

My experience tells me that Bio's self imposed incommunicado strategy was a management decision.

 

But, hey... good news. Bio management is speaking again about Patch 3.


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