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[Gerula81]

DAI was officially stated to have started its life as an MMORPG, I posted a topic with the interview.

But the reasons you presented are worthy of commenting: I think you nailed it.

 

http://www.gamesindu...res-inquisition

[JackPoint]

II wont touch AMD, i've been an nvidia card user since the late 90s andd this is by far the worst game i have had issues with, i can barely last 30 mins in game before the gpu hangs out to desktop. Never mind the crappy KB/M control scheme, i'm fighting a war on two fronts.

 

 

My systems pretty decent too.

 

 

Intel I7 3770k @ 4.3ghz W7 pro

32gb memory

2x GTX680 each card as 4gb dedicated ram

Samsung 512 SSD game drive

 

I'll never touch a bioware game ever again after giving them a chance after the ME3 debacle, and i've been an avid bioware fan since BG, slowly seeing them slide into cash grabbing game development since jumping into EA's back pocket.

[TobyJake]

Thanks for giving pc-gamers a broken game. The controls are just annoying, making the game a chore to play.

 

Well, shame on me for buying on release day thanks to the gaming press treating it like the 2nd coming of the lord, and gave it Game of the Year shortly after. Meanwhile PC gamers clicked futile within the game, and through inventory submenus for hours wondering how it was possible to make an RPG-game where it is any worse to play, craft and manage ones inventory.

 

Played about 20 hrs right after launch, stopped and waiting for patch 3. No updates for ages. And to rub it in the game is getting cheaper as I'm waiting. What excellent value for money launch day trust and support turned out to be. Never on launch day again, Bioware. Shame on you.

 

This review is rare because of it's honesty. A good read:

 

http://www.incgamers...uisition-review

Haha. I quote from the review!

Yes, you’ve got mouse and keyboard controls and a specialised interface, and yes, you’ve got a tactical camera… but these are present in a game that doesn’t work with mouse and keyboard controls, and doesn’t require tactics.

[Danoniero]

II wont touch AMD, i've been an nvidia card user since the late 90s andd this is by far the worst game i have had issues with, i can barely last 30 mins in game before the gpu hangs out to desktop. Never mind the crappy KB/M control scheme, i'm fighting a war on two fronts.

 

 

My systems pretty decent too.

 

 

Intel I7 3770k @ 4.3ghz W7 pro

32gb memory

2x GTX680 each card as 4gb dedicated ram

Samsung 512 SSD game drive

 

I'll never touch a bioware game ever again after giving them a chance after the ME3 debacle, and i've been an avid bioware fan since BG, slowly seeing them slide into cash grabbing game development since jumping into EA's back pocket.

It is definitely an engine optimization issue, my rig:

I5 2500k @4Ghz

8gb RAM

GTX 780 slightly overclocked

And game is on HDD while system on SSD

 

Game is running perfectly everything except MSAA is maxed out. I was really suprised how well the game is running for me reading all that rant, and having experience with AC:Unity, god Unity runs so much worse than Inquisition

[voteDC]

Oddly enough the game that made me a Nvidia man was Knights of the Old Republic. Trying to move with a ATI card (I think it was a 9250 I had at the time) when there was smoke effects on screen turned the game into a slide show. I put in a GeForce 4 MX and the game ran smooth as silk.

Edit: System specs since people are posting them.

Intel i5-3330.

8GB RAM.
Gigabyte H61M-DS2.

Inno3D GTX970 (4gb).

 

Three 1tb hard drives and a 120gb SSD (on which sits Windows XP SP3). Windows 8.1, my main OS, sits on one of the 1tb hard drives, a Seagate SSHD.

[MatrixGirl]

Hello

Intel I7 2700K at 3.8 GHz

16 Gig Ripjaw memory

Asus GTX 570 Direct CU II factory over clocked

Dual OCZ SSD 256 Gig runnin in Raid zero

Windows 7 Ultimate 64

Most of my settings are on high and some on Ultra getting 40 to 60 FPS, load time is real quick

Major problem is the clunky interface as in mouse and keyboard and having to disable my second monitor when I play since the mouse ends up on the second screen and the game minimizes itself. Have not found too many bugs yet, but I agree UI is clunky and hope they fix it in patch 3 whenever they lock it down whatever that means.

[Sylveria_Relden]

Specs

 

Intel i7 2.93

16 GB RAM

AMD Radeon R7 260X 3GB - @ 1920x1080 

x64 Windows 7 Pro

3 1 TB drives, tried with game loaded on system drive as well as separate drive (neither made a difference performance-wise)

Have used both Mantle and DX11

 

Most times it runs ok except controls are horribly laggy and non-responsive (K&M)

[Sylveria_Relden]

Hello

Intel I7 2700K at 3.8 GHz

16 Gig Ripjaw memory

Asus GTX 570 Direct CU II factory over clocked

Dual OCZ SSD 256 Gig runnin in Raid zero

Windows 7 Ultimate 64

Most of my settings are on high and some on Ultra getting 40 to 60 FPS, load time is real quick

Major problem is the clunky interface as in mouse and keyboard and having to disable my second monitor when I play since the mouse ends up on the second screen and the game minimizes itself. Have not found too many bugs yet, but I agree UI is clunky and hope they fix it in patch 3 whenever they lock it down whatever that means.

 

I don't think it's yours or anyone else's system- I think it's whatever the port layer they wrote for console->PC translation of the controls. I also have to wonder if there's really a video difference/issue or if it's the same "layer" or whatever it is.

 

Very big difference in performance if you use a controller- but K&M just plain lags. Not going to flog the horse over the controller/K&M thing again though, the point's been made thousands of times in this thread.

[MatrixGirl]

True. I am using 344.75 driver and sure hope patch 3 does not screw up our save games and we have to start again. I have a Steele Merc Stealth gaming keyboard and a Razor Naga Hex. Chaged the keyboard layout to WASD so it is a bit better and managed to bind a few keys to my mouse using the Razer software. So it is playable but I am sure I will run in some sort of bug soon enough. And I made sure Origin overlay is disabled in game that helps lots.

Crossing my fingers

Still find the text quite big even at 1980x1020 full screen, but they need to do something about putting in more than 8 skill slots.

Plus with the patch Nvidia will have to tweet their drivers.

Hope is what I have

[mcsupersport]

Amd Phenom II x4 3.4ghz

 

Win7 x64

 

Amd R9 290

 

12 gigs ram

 

2x 1 TB hds

 

Everything on Ultra and getting 30-40fps steady.  Haven't had but occasional crashes(2-4) in over 200hrs of play.  No issue playing with keyboard and mouse, tried controller and hated it.  I had the issue of minimizing with second monitor but it fixed itself after I changed option to windowed fullscreen, restarted game and then changed back to fullscreen and restarted.  Other than a few achievements not firing, almost trouble free play and enjoyment.  I know flame me...hate me, but I love the game.  I do hope the next patch does help some optimizations to make it easier on my rig, but even so, it is ok for me.

[Peregrinus]

Specs

HP Envy Laptop

AMD A-10 5745 APU

8 GB (1866) RAM

AMD Radeon 8610 @ 1366x768

x64 Windows 8.1

1 TB Toshiba 7200 RPM HD

DX 11

 

I can run it fairly smooth on low/medium mixed settings, with no tesselation, SSAO/HBAO, and normal AA.  I do have mesh on high because I need the scars/freckles and post process AA on low.  I've crashed to desktop with no errors about 5 times so far in 80+ hrs of play, and 1 directx error lockup. After reading the forums,  it seems like there wasn't much testing done because hardware specs that are having problems is all over the place. There isn't one defining piece of hardware/software that can be isolated..  

[Brogan]

I seriously considered multiquoting the extremely easy to find examples for you, but on second thought you'd need to be willfully ignorant to miss them, and you can't argue with the willfully ignorant. 

 

I just wish it were as easy to ignore a whole thread as it is to ignore a single user.

 

In other words, you couldn't find any examples.

 

And the few "candidates" you had were more sarcastic than "yelling", and since that doesn't really fit the characterization of what you wanted to complain about, you took the easy way out to avoid embarrassment.

 

 

 

psst ...  ^ that didn't work either.

[Sylveria_Relden]

Amd Phenom II x4 3.4ghz

 

Win7 x64

 

Amd R9 290

 

12 gigs ram

 

2x 1 TB hds

 

Everything on Ultra and getting 30-40fps steady.  Haven't had but occasional crashes(2-4) in over 200hrs of play.  No issue playing with keyboard and mouse, tried controller and hated it.  I had the issue of minimizing with second monitor but it fixed itself after I changed option to windowed fullscreen, restarted game and then changed back to fullscreen and restarted.  Other than a few achievements not firing, almost trouble free play and enjoyment.  I know flame me...hate me, but I love the game.  I do hope the next patch does help some optimizations to make it easier on my rig, but even so, it is ok for me.

I don't think anyone's going to "flame" you- I think if anything lots of people in this forum have been flamed for expressing their concerns/issues. (no need to link, if you really want to see you can just read backward in the threads)

 

I do think people will question the intention of those who "have no issues" however, because we've seen it demonstrated time and time again people want to argue with those who have issues with the game rather than respecting the fact they have an opinion, too.

[Brogan]

Haha. I quote from the review!

Yes, you’ve got mouse and keyboard controls and a specialised interface, and yes, you’ve got a tactical camera… but these are present in a game that doesn’t work with mouse and keyboard controls, and doesn’t require tactics.

 

What's frustrating (obviously) is that if the idea is out there on the net that Bioware has turned their backs on m&kb users, and they went to the effort to feature pc controls in that blog back before the first patch, WHY haven't they said anything since?  Why not at least make some kind of statement that this article, and others who talk about it, could edit in as an addendum?

[Sylveria_Relden]

What's frustrating (obviously) is that if the idea is out there on the net that Bioware has turned their backs on m&kb users, and they went to the effort to feature pc controls in that blog back before the first patch, WHY haven't they said anything since?  Why not at least make some kind of statement that this article, and others who talk about it, could edit in as an addendum?

 

Well, we can only speculate as to the "why", but I'm definitely hoping it's because they choose action and not words. Here's to hoping that's the case.

[voteDC]

I have my fingers crossed for action.

The problem I see is that patches tend not to exist in a platform vacuum. They are going to be working on fixes for the two generations of consoles at the same time.

Are they really going to have time to properly address PC control issues when they also have to patch four console versions too.

[Sylveria_Relden]

I have my fingers crossed for action.

The problem I see is that patches tend not to exist in a platform vacuum. They are going to be working on fixes for the two generations of consoles at the same time.

Are they really going to have time to properly address PC control issues when they also have to patch four console versions too.

 

I have to admit, a 4:1 ratio of consoles vs PC really does tend to put a damper in the "hope meter", but I think I speak for many here when I say how they handle this situation will determine my "future business relationship" with EA/Bioware's products.

 

It should be pretty evident to most that 4:1 clearly shows what platform they focused mainly on in development, after all.

[Jackal19851111]

I'm actually worried about patch 3, considering how much difference the walking mod has made to my experience. With both a walk toggle and hold to walk/run I can't imagine playing the game any other way. I can live without jogging though many others like it.

 

Right now I won't be satisfied with just a walk toggle, need the hold key. Most of the time I control with walking as default, and shift to run. In heavy combat areas I just switch to running and shift to walk. Chances are I may be waiting for the mod to update before I download the patch.

 

Still, looking forward to possible tac cam fixes/mouselook toggle/mouse binding so I can finally murder everyone in melee using my right mouse as a block button and give fluid orders without pulling my hair out with the tac cam.

[Everwyn]

I don't think anyone's going to "flame" you- I think if anything lots of people in this forum have been flamed for expressing their concerns/issues. (no need to link, if you really want to see you can just read backward in the threads)

 

I do think people will question the intention of those who "have no issues" however, because we've seen it demonstrated time and time again people want to argue with those who have issues with the game rather than respecting the fact they have an opinion, too.

 

I'm afraid that goes both ways.

 

Despite being my first post, I've been following this thread for a while. Haven't read the whole +400 pages, but I'm trying to keep up. Have finished my first playthrough and like many of you, I feel there are things in the PC version that need some work on. Regarding hardware issues, had some crashes at the start but after some settings optimization stopped having that problem - NVIDIA user - and counting with reloads to explore choices or redo certain acts, I'm with about 250 hours played. Nevertheless, don't discard the problems that are occurring to some, I'm well aware just because it works for me doesn't mean it will for others, I just can't comment much apart from wishing these would not be happening so everyone could at least have a reasonable experience. But I do have issues with the interface, controls and tactical camera - again, like many of you.

 

I feel however this thread is not going in the best direction sometimes. And allow me to remind some that this is a place of discussion, not an echo chamber. This is not for the people that are sharing common concerns with other posters, but for those who tend to say "this is not to disagree, if you want to say you love the game and all, that's fine but take it elsewhere" kind of thing.

 

AGAIN, I agree with many of people's concerns and points here. It's great to see some posters trying to expose and address issues eloquently, but also disheartening to read the usual comments about "EAware, got our money and don't care about us, it sucks" or some passive aggressive replies, childish ways to try to discredit others opinions and so on.

 

I thought this thread was supposed to be an opportunity to give feedback (like many of you are doing well), to call developers attention to these issues and how important they are for PC players. And I understand some of the frustrations here, I do. I wished also there was a patch soon. But cluttering it with some rubbish posts is just going to make it harder.

 

I honestly believe this is something worth to fight for. You're doing the good fight, just don't do it wrong. Please be constructive and patient.

 

(This is not a reply against you or your post, Sylveria. Quoted as to follow a line of thought)

[Sylveria_Relden]

Snipped for screen real estate savings- not to detract from content

 

(This is not a reply against you or your post, Sylveria. Quoted as to follow a line of thought)

 

Thank you for posting that- and if you review a lot of my previous posts, you'll see that I agree wholeheartedly- and a lot of my own posts have been to keep the thread on track- while still relating experiences to show that I too, have a stake in this as well. There have been, however (and I'm sure you'll agree) others who have popped in from time to time with no real "stake" at all- but rather attempting to derail the thread or detract from its content. I also think in light of this there are many more mature posters who also help to keep this thread on track.

 

Constructive criticism, yes- meaningless "why are you even here" banter, we don't need. And as I've said before, I'm hoping the silence is indicative of action on EA/Bioware's behalf.

[mcsupersport]

I don't think anyone's going to "flame" you- I think if anything lots of people in this forum have been flamed for expressing their concerns/issues. (no need to link, if you really want to see you can just read backward in the threads)

 

I do think people will question the intention of those who "have no issues" however, because we've seen it demonstrated time and time again people want to argue with those who have issues with the game rather than respecting the fact they have an opinion, too.

My intention is to simply put out that the game is flawed, and doesn't work on some systems, but it isn't totally broken and some people actually play and enjoy it with very minimal issues.  I have mostly seen posts bashing the game, controls, and Bioware here, and am simply reminding people that while yes they may be having issues it isn't universal in nature...which happens to make it harder to fix in patches if you think about it, because Bioware has to figure out why it runs great on my system, yet tanks on one very similar of another player and then fix it so it runs great on both. 

 

I know there are issues with the game, I have spent many hours over in the tech help forum posting and trying to help people out with game issues there.  Some I can help with, others I have to scratch my head and hope Bioware pulls a rabbit our of their arse and fixes the broken crap.  I do get tired of seeing people post M&K are totally broken and you CAN'T play the game with them....when I HAVE played quite a bit with them.  Yeah, they could be better, but part of it is simply people NOT wanting to adapt to a different control style than they are used too, or feel is best.  Yeah, it could be better, but hyperbole "crap is broken FIX IT!!" about things that aren't broken just not like people want doesn't help the issue, because most times people NEVER put WHY they think it is broke, or any other details that would help actually fix it.

 

Flame wars have been by both sides, as SOME of both people who like the game, and those who want changes don't want to hear any contradictions...

 

IF you are having issues, I hope the next patch comes out soon, and fixes them for you but please try to have a little understanding of what Bioware is up against....and herding cats would probably be easier.  If you are not having issues, try not to get too upset with those who are having issues and are thus taking their frustrations out on the boards. 

[MatrixGirl]

I think myself that Boiware may say. Ok PC dev here is a list of what to fix get to it and Sony people here is your list get to it and MS people here is your list and get to it. Than they will test the patch/patches and implement them. And since they can get help from down the hall with the Frostbyte engine, they may address most of the issues and create more patches after that. That is how I would do it if I was in charge at Bioware.

I hope some manager at Bioware thinks like me.

But we know they are working on the PC patch.

[Brogan]

.... I do get tired of seeing people post M&K are totally broken and you CAN'T play the game with them....when I HAVE played quite a bit with them.  Yeah, they could be better, but part of it is simply people NOT wanting to adapt to a different control style than they are used too, or feel is best.  Yeah, it could be better, but hyperbole "crap is broken FIX IT!!" about things that aren't broken just not like people want doesn't help the issue, because most times people NEVER put WHY they think it is broke, or any other details that would help actually fix it......

 

Help me out with something here....

 

If you know that the people typing "crap is broken FIX IT!!" is hyperbole, why even bother mentioning the fact that M&K is not broken?  Isn't it obvious these people know the scheme isn't literally broken?  Isn't the exaggeration the point of the complaint, that they want a better scheme, not a fixed scheme? 

 

I just don't get why you (or anyone) needs to weigh in on somebody else's problem ...  why do you respond if you 'get tired' of seeing it? 

 

That's like keeping Jerry Springer on even when you can't stand the people he has on as guests.

[Sylveria_Relden]

Help me out with something here....

 

If you know that the people typing "crap is broken FIX IT!!" is hyperbole, why even bother mentioning the fact that M&K is not broken?  Isn't it obvious these people know the scheme isn't literally broken?  Isn't the exaggeration the point of the complaint, that they want a better scheme, not a fixed scheme? 

 

I just don't get why you (or anyone) needs to weigh in on somebody else's problem ...  why do you respond if you 'get tired' of seeing it? 

 

That's like keeping Jerry Springer on even when you can't stand the people he has on as guests.

 

Eh, I don't really dig TV personally, but I've heard a lot of people say they just keep it on for "background noise".

 

As far as the K&M thing, you're definitely right on point, Brogan. My "issues" with the controls (K&M) aren't that they "don't work" (if that were the case, I'd have turned it back in for a refund in a hot minute) but rather they're laggy and clunky as hell, yet if I plug a controller in it works nice and smooth (almost as if the game was made for controllers... hmm....) after of course, I got done unplugging ALL USB DEVICES in order to get the game to recognize JUST the controller (Yeah, I know WTF???, right?)

 

I've got a looooooooot of patience, a lot more than I should have in many cases. But I will not just "accept" that the controls are the way they are and act like it's all fine- what I will do is continue to speak loudly (as everyone else will as well) and be heard. Our "voice" and "opinion" counts for just as much as people who don't have issues.