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Oh, have you heard the game is like skyrim big? What? Some of you say you cant find out because of the crashes? Are you sure its not patched? the game is out for 2 months. Well....

 

Having put in around 3300 hours into Skyrim I have to say, DA:I is not even remotely as enjoyable to play as Skyrim. I used to tell ppl that if Bioware got together with Bethesda and made a game that had Skyrim's endless possibilities in adventuring and Bioware's ability to make ppl care deeply for the story and characters, no one would ever leave their computer. That was until DA:I came out.

 

The only thing Skyrim was missing was more soul to the content. There was just enough to keep you going but nothing that made you feel deep in your heart for the story unfolding. (There are a few exceptions) But with mods it has come a long way even in that aspect. The modding community has done a mind blowing job turning Skyrim into something I think even Bethesda could not have imagined doing ever. Bioware even took that aspect out of this game and bragged about players not being able to mod their precious pile of a game.

 

After DA:I I would not want Bioware any where near Skyrim. What made them the jewel of developers in the RPG genre is gone. This game was a complete slap in the face to anyone that adored their games. They killed all of the ongoing story. They ridiculed and berated all of the groups and beliefs that were the backbone of the story. They made all of the companions worthless degenerates or wishy-washy sycophants. They turned all of the heroes from previous games into monsters who could never be trusted again. I still cannot believe what they did to the Wardens. It is worse than watching a Sean Bean movie with the hopes that he is going to live longer than the first 15 minutes.

 

Spoiler

 

Yes I put 400+ hours into the game to make sure that I could give a complete and honest review and also in the hopes that I did not miss a valuable plot or storyline but with the exception of the few class/gender/race changes there really was no real point of playing more than two play-throughs.

 

There was SO much potential with this game. Every time I ran across something semi-interesting I got excited that the writers were going back to the rich plot lines and stories they had done in previous games. But it quickly became all too apparent that like everything else with this game it was just eye-candy to keep you occupied long enough for Bioware to make the initial sales before ppl found out that there really was nothing in this game they promised. Some of the main story was interesting but their were so many glaring holes in everything it was hard to ignore or fully enjoy.

 

For all of my disappointment with DA2 at least the story and the characters were very interesting. It was at least a complete story that flowed. It was not as versatile as DA:O with your choices making that much of an impact but the story and interaction at least had substance. After the second play-through with DA:I you find out that if you pick the opposite spectrum of the plot points and companion interaction they all still react the same way so it does not really matter other than a footnote that you chose the opposite option. *bleh* Whatever, woohoo they got my money and trashed any hopes I had that they really were going to redeem themselves.

 

I could keep going on but what really is the point. It is not like anything I say is going to change the game in any aspect. While the game itself feels like a Beta version that 100's of ppl are testing I doubt seriously there will be any real changes as they have most likely spent the motherload on advertisement and plushies having no real intentions of fixing or improving the game. Do not even get me started on the actual gameplay aspects of this farce. I think there are enough threads about that already.

 

One thing you can say Bioware has become really excellent at is, false advertising and being able to sucker ppl into hoping their hype is genuine.


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#11552
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That's a pretty useless tool.  try this instead.  This will also give you projected fps .  http://www.game-deba...The Witcher III

Lovely i can run tw3 on ultra if that's a true spec test.



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Lovely i can run tw3 on ultra if that's a true spec test.

Well, it's definitely more trustworthy then "can you run it?"  It might not be pinpoint accurate but it will give you a decent baseline. 



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Months Later, Dragon Age's PC Version Is Still Frustrating Players

 

An article headline from Kotaku, posted yesterday: http://kotaku.com/mo...poin-1681031116

 

[snip]

 

As for the improved controls, UI, and other elements fans have repeatedly asked for, BioWare was worrisomely hesitant to go into specifics. I asked if a better UI, an overhauled tactical view, click-to-move functionality, and better auto-attack were in the works, and all the developer offered was, "We're continuing to work on further improvements to the PC experience for our players." Huh. They also wouldn't detail how long they plan to keep plugging away at the PC version of Dragon Age: Inquisition, instead merely saying that they're "always listening to fans and are committed to giving them a great experience with our games."

 

[snip]

 

Yeah, I think I'm definitely done here. And I think Bioware also realize by now that they shot themselves in the foot with their half-hearted support post-launch.

I am convinced that things would have turned out a lot different if they had taken the feedback in this thread more seriously and kept an open channel of communication and transparency with their fans. But alas...

 

Dragon Age is dead. 

Long live the Dragon Age...


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#11555
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Well, it's definitely more trustworthy then "can you run it?"  It might not be pinpoint accurate but it will give you a decent baseline. 

Ya, i may just upgrade my GTX 680s to 980s to make sure i have no issues.



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Months Later, Dragon Age's PC Version Is Still Frustrating Players

 

An article headline from Kotaku, posted yesterday: http://kotaku.com/mo...poin-1681031116

 

[snip]

 

As for the improved controls, UI, and other elements fans have repeatedly asked for, BioWare was worrisomely hesitant to go into specifics. I asked if a better UI, an overhauled tactical view, click-to-move functionality, and better auto-attack were in the works, and all the developer offered was, "We're continuing to work on further improvements to the PC experience for our players." Huh. They also wouldn't detail how long they plan to keep plugging away at the PC version of Dragon Age: Inquisition, instead merely saying that they're "always listening to fans and are committed to giving them a great experience with our games."

 

[snip]

 

Yeah, I think I'm definitely done here. and I think Bioware also realize by now that they shot themselves in the foot with their half-hearted support post-launch.

 

Dragon Age is dead. 

Long live the Dragon Age...

I agree matey, they will give up on this game for PC much like they gave up on me3. Games done move along to the next greener pasture :P


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Have you seen the Witcher 3 game specs? They are damn high.. I think my GPU card won't pass the bare minimum....

 

Looks like 2GB is the limit for the next gen games.  :mellow:



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86. Shadow Realms (TBA)

Releasing on: PS4, Xbox One, PC

After so much success with Mass Effect and Dragon Age, anything new from BioWare is big news. At Gamescom 2014, the developer’s Austin branch showed off its next game, a four-on-one PC title called Shadow Realms. The game puts players in the middle of a battle between Earth and a magical realm known as Embra, where a team of four each take on one of five roles - Warrior, Assassin, Wizard, Cleric, Ranger, or Warlock - to face another player controlling the Shadowlord in a co-op/competitive mix of action-role-playing.

Sounds good so far, and it appears to be getting a 2015 release, though some recent rumors throw that into question. According to unnamed sources, Shadow Realms is going from an episodic title to a full release, and that means the game might be delayed to 2017. We’ll keep a lookout for confirmation, and until then, let’s just continue dreaming that we’ll have a new BioWare game this year.

 

 

Think i'll sidestep this one too, wish i'd said the same for DAI.



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Looks like 2GB is the limit for the next gen games.  :mellow:

This is quoted from Eurogamer.  

At the centre of the studio's first next-gen title is, of course, a brand new technological underpinning: the home-built REDengine 3. Also set for use in its upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 project, major bullet-points for the engine include support for 64-bit precision high dynamic range, fully tessellated environments, and a streaming algorithm to permit a completely open-world game design. The Witcher 3's game world counts in at over 25 times the size of its predecessor's, and this freedom to roam in any direction is a series first. Now it's possible to scale mountains via an added jump move, swim underwater, travel by boat and also horse-ride from one end of the map to the other. 

That's probably the reason for the high requirements.  :)   I know I can't run it at all. 


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This is quoted from Eurogamer.  

At the centre of the studio's first next-gen title is, of course, a brand new technological underpinning: the home-built REDengine 3. Also set for use in its upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 project, major bullet-points for the engine include support for 64-bit precision high dynamic range, fully tessellated environments, and a streaming algorithm to permit a completely open-world game design. The Witcher 3's game world counts in at over 25 times the size of its predecessor's, and this freedom to roam in any direction is a series first. Now it's possible to scale mountains via an added jump move, swim underwater, travel by boat and also horse-ride from one end of the map to the other. 

That's probably the reason for the high requirements.   :)   I know I can't run it at all. 

Cyberpunk 2077 This will be a great game, if any of you are old enough remember the original you'll know why.


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Cyberpunk 2077 This will be a great game, if any of you are old enough remember the original you'll know why.

Yep, it was fun. It will be interesting what CD Projekt Red does with it in video game form.

 

 

p.s  William Gibson is brilliant. Things in Neuromancer are coming true.  :) 



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Yep, it was fun. It will be interesting what CD Projekt Red does with it in video game form.

 

 

p.s  William Gibson is brilliant. Things in Neuromancer are coming true.   :)

 

Yeeup, TW3---------Cyberpunk 2077 is going to fill out a few years of gaming i think.


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I'm officially saltier than any BW fanboy in the world.

 

When I bought this game on steam it would barely run on my ATI 6600 so I went out and bought a fkn 970. I bought twin 4gb ram. I had to buy a new case for the fkn 970 to fit in my rig. I had to buy a new fan for the cpu. A new power supply for it all to work. Just so I could experience all this game had to offer, and boy did I get one hell of an 'experience'. Firstly, CTD, DX errors, dialogue errors, quest errors, followed by patch after patch of constantly fixing something and breaking something else, with the additional pleasure of having the initial BW employees who started the whole 'community feedback' disappear and instead gorge themselves on their much coveted, and paid for, GOTY accolades.

 

Now it's all but lost for any hope of any real fix for PC issues and playability, no sight of the DLC the players actually want, and very shortly you'll see Dragon Age: Revenge of Fenharel "IGN is calling it best hack 'n slash of the year!".

 

Enjoy your console playerbase BW, you've earned it.


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I'm officially saltier than any BW fanboy in the world.

 

When I bought this game on steam it would barely run on my ATI 6600 so I went out and bought a fkn 970. I bought twin 4gb ram. I had to buy a new case for the fkn 970 to fit in my rig. I had to buy a new fan for the cpu. A new power supply for it all to work. Just so I could experience all this game had to offer, and boy did I get one hell of an 'experience'. Firstly, CTD, DX errors, dialogue errors, quest errors, followed by patch after patch of constantly fixing something and breaking something else, with the additional pleasure of having the initial BW employees who started the whole 'community feedback' disappear and instead gorge themselves on their much coveted, and paid for, GOTY accolades.

 

Now it's all but lost for any hope of any real fix for PC issues and playability, no sight of the DLC the players actually want, and very shortly you'll see Dragon Age: Revenge of Fenharel "IGN is calling it best hack 'n slash of the year!".

 

Enjoy your console playerbase BW, you've earned it.

Well now you have a rig that can run TW3 :P, so some good news there :)



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Ya, i may just upgrade my GTX 680s to 980s to make sure i have no issues.

 

Yo probably get a better deal getting 2x 970. I have one 980, hell of a card, but economically wise, even more considering dual, 970 is way to go.

If you want 4k, probably now the best deal is 295 amd, or wait, the new maxwell titan is kicking the corner, if you have $$ to burn.



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Yo probably get a better deal getting 2x 970. I have one 980, hell of a card, but economically wise, even more considering dual, 970 is way to go.

If you want 4k, probably now the best deal is 295 amd, or wait, the new maxwell titan is kicking the corner, if you have $$ to burn.

Thank you Postem. It's good to hear someone in the know about graphic cards. A lot of times, the price tag doesn't match the performance and I've learned that the hard way.



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Yea, this part was particularly ominous:

 

As for the improved controls, UI, and other elements fans have repeatedly asked for, BioWare was worrisomely hesitant to go into specifics. I asked if a better UI, an overhauled tactical view, click-to-move functionality, and better auto-attack were in the works, and all the developer offered was, "We're continuing to work on further improvements to the PC experience for our players." Huh.

 

Ah well, I guess I'll continue to work on other games till they realize they need to scrap everything, and duplicate the Origins scheme for DAI.

 

They better do it before May though, cuz everyone will have moved on to Witcher.

 

My fear is that we will not see any meaningful fixes unless Bioware management replaces Laidlaw/Darrah/Gaider and basically pull a Diablo III RoS on us. 



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Having put in around 3300 hours into Skyrim I have to say, DA:I is not even remotely as enjoyable to play as Skyrim. I used to tell ppl that if Bioware got together with Bethesda and made a game that had Skyrim's endless possibilities in adventuring and Bioware's ability to make ppl care deeply for the story and characters, no one would ever leave their computer. That was until DA:I came out.

 

The only thing Skyrim was missing was more soul to the content. There was just enough to keep you going but nothing that made you feel deep in your heart for the story unfolding. (There are a few exceptions) But with mods it has come a long way even in that aspect. The modding community has done a mind blowing job turning Skyrim into something I think even Bethesda could not have imagined doing ever. Bioware even took that aspect out of this game and bragged about players not being able to mod their precious pile of a game.

 

After DA:I I would not want Bioware any where near Skyrim. What made them the jewel of developers in the RPG genre is gone. This game was a complete slap in the face to anyone that adored their games. They killed all of the ongoing story. They ridiculed and berated all of the groups and beliefs that were the backbone of the story. They made all of the companions worthless degenerates or wishy-washy sycophants. They turned all of the heroes from previous games into monsters who could never be trusted again. I still cannot believe what they did to the Wardens. It is worse than watching a Sean Bean movie with the hopes that he is going to live longer than the first 15 minutes.

 

Spoiler

 

Yes I put 400+ hours into the game to make sure that I could give a complete and honest review and also in the hopes that I did not miss a valuable plot or storyline but with the exception of the few class/gender/race changes there really was no real point of playing more than two play-throughs.

 

There was SO much potential with this game. Every time I ran across something semi-interesting I got excited that the writers were going back to the rich plot lines and stories they had done in previous games. But it quickly became all too apparent that like everything else with this game it was just eye-candy to keep you occupied long enough for Bioware to make the initial sales before ppl found out that there really was nothing in this game they promised. Some of the main story was interesting but their were so many glaring holes in everything it was hard to ignore or fully enjoy.

 

For all of my disappointment with DA2 at least the story and the characters were very interesting. It was at least a complete story that flowed. It was not as versatile as DA:O with your choices making that much of an impact but the story and interaction at least had substance. After the second play-through with DA:I you find out that if you pick the opposite spectrum of the plot points and companion interaction they all still react the same way so it does not really matter other than a footnote that you chose the opposite option. *bleh* Whatever, woohoo they got my money and trashed any hopes I had that they really were going to redeem themselves.

 

I could keep going on but what really is the point. It is not like anything I say is going to change the game in any aspect. While the game itself feels like a Beta version that 100's of ppl are testing I doubt seriously there will be any real changes as they have most likely spent the motherload on advertisement and plushies having no real intentions of fixing or improving the game. Do not even get me started on the actual gameplay aspects of this farce. I think there are enough threads about that already.

 

One thing you can say Bioware has become really excellent at is, false advertising and being able to sucker ppl into hoping their hype is genuine.

Well said. I still have hope, but hope is fading fast into that breach Bioware committed against its PC fans. (pun intended)


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I agree matey, they will give up on this game for PC much like they gave up on me3. Games done move along to the next greener pasture :P

 

I really hate Gatwker and kotaku, but at least with their power they got some reply from EA. As several noted, just quoting again

 

 

As for the improved controls, UI, and other elements fans have repeatedly asked for, BioWare was worrisomely hesitant to go into specifics. I asked if a better UI, an overhauled tactical view, click-to-move functionality, and better auto-attack were in the works, and all the developer offered was, "We're continuing to work on further improvements to the PC experience for our players." Huh. They also wouldn't detail how long they plan to keep plugging away at the PC version of Dragon Age: Inquisition, instead merely saying that they're "always listening to fans and are committed to giving them a great experience with our games."

 

Im inclined to conclude, there will be not fix or change to those issues. The hesitant statement, combined with recent patch that delivered a walk toggle that is clearly inferior to a mere mod tells me of that. They eventually could change some things, mostly limited by how much work and how much would cost to fix pc controls. This is probably under analysis by internal team and executives, and considering how EA only thinks on short monetary terms im mostly inclined to conclude, there will be no satisfactory fix.


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I kept saying since December, they should take a closer look at Jay Wilson case on Diablo 3.



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Thank you Postem. It's good to hear someone in the know about graphic cards. A lot of times, the price tag doesn't match the performance and I've learned that the hard way.

 

I choose 980 because of some factors:

1) I was buying the best rig i could on the 1150 plataform. So intead of Haswell-E, i could pay less.

2) I have bad experiences with SLI / CF. I really dont like dual.

3) 1920x1080 display

4) I wished to have the luxury of having top of line, even if it mean paying a premium.

 

My fear is that we will not see any meaningful fixes unless Bioware management replaces Laidlaw/Darrah/Gaider and basically pull a Diablo III RoS on us. 

 

Dont talk about Bioware taking decisions; these executives were picked by EA, and are aligned with EA vision and goals. They will dance the song EA plays. So the thing is: EA is willing to spend money to fix the game?

 

Probably they will weight between negative publicity, future sales, DLC sales, and how much the bad controls are impacting on future sales. I suspect they are not considering this episode to be relevant to the point of damaging the series brand or the studio brand.

 

Not fixing the game or releasing an unsatisfactory fix will probably be a calculated damage.

 

 

I kept saying since December, they should take a closer look at Jay Wilson case on Diablo 3.

 

While its a good case, even taking so much time to happen, Blizzard is a different company. It have few IPs, major are WoW and Diablo.

 

EA works much like the Reapers, they approach a good studio, absorb it, milk it, and once the IP is dead they go after a new studio.

Its a well know pattern you can see happening from late 90'. I just dont know for how much more time EA can sustain this business model.


Modifié par Postem, 23 janvier 2015 - 11:31 .


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Yo probably get a better deal getting 2x 970. I have one 980, hell of a card, but economically wise, even more considering dual, 970 is way to go.

If you want 4k, probably now the best deal is 295 amd, or wait, the new maxwell titan is kicking the corner, if you have $$ to burn.

Cheers, i'l look into the dual GTX970s,not a fan of AMD, i won't touch them with someone else's.


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Dont talk about Bioware taking decisions; these executives were picked by EA, and are aligned with EA vision and goals. They will dance the song EA plays. So the thing is: EA is willing to spend money to fix the game?

 

Probably they will weight between negative publicity, future sales, DLC sales, and how much the bad controls are impacting on future sales. I suspect they are not considering this episode to be relevant to the point of damaging the series brand or the studio brand.

 

Not fixing the game or releasing an unsatisfactory fix will probably be a calculated damage.

 

 

 

In this context, one can read Bioware to be interchangeable with EA (because it is) and you're probably right, the damage made by the team leaders is probably not sufficient to make any changes in their ranks, I'm just saying that I think that's the only way we can expect meaningful changes and improvements made in this game going forward. 

 

As long as Laidlaw/Darrah/Gaider are leading this project, it will stay largely as is. This is their vision. 



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Yup for 3 i think i need to get a  970 extremely good price vs performance on it. I do not think my 7950 3gb edition will survive witcher 3. AMD aint bad, before the 970 rolled along amd were hard to beat at price vs performance and they have improved their drivers quite a bit now. 

But at this point in time best card has to be 970 especially with its good price.



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Yup for 3 i think i need to get a  970 extremely good price vs performance on it. I do not think my 7950 3gb edition will survive witcher 3.

yeh, im just loathe to buy them atm as DX12 is coming soon with Winblows 10 and Nvidia are working on DX12 cards too. So i will wait and see how the market plays out this summer. When ii do end up upgrading my Gpus i like to do it in such a way as to give me some longevity, and my dual 680s will see me through TW3 until that decision is defined by Nvdias progress on the Dx12 cards.