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[Calm64]

Honestly i should have waited for a cracked version and played that one and then thrown the game away... and maybe in the far far future bought it for cheap to play multiplayer when it will be in a decent state instead of the horrible joke its in now.  I not used to spending such amount of money for such a mocking product full of lies.
But now i learned my lesson very well so thanks bioware for that importent lesson and for my last purchase of a 60$ game from you ( and honestly from all the other big companies out there as well.. all those lies, so many broken products... this year was so horrible, a sad year for gaming ).

Yes 2014 has been a year that all PC players won't soon forget. You'll do well in remembering this year EA, Gearbox and Zenimax, to mention a few of this years biggest liars.

[Sartoz]

Honestly i should have waited for a cracked version and played that one and then thrown the game away... and maybe in the far far future bought it for cheap to play multiplayer when it will be in a decent state instead of the horrible joke its in now.  I not used to spending such amount of money for such a mocking product full of lies.
But now i learned my lesson very well so thanks bioware for that importent lesson and for my last purchase of a 60$ game from you ( and honestly from all the other big companies out there as well.. all those lies, so many broken products... this year was so horrible, a sad year for gaming ).

What lesson did you exactly learn? That a non-legal game plays better?

[Sartoz]

Understood. I'm a sculptor, stone/wood. My hands wrists and arms are beat to hell from 20 years of it. The controls don't phase me much/at all because I use an Razer orbweaver, previously used a Belkin N52te. I can't use a regular keyboard for gaming at all without massive cramping pain.

 

It keeps my hand in a comfortable position and I map wasd movement to the thumbstick.

Hm...

What key mapped funtionality are you using, besides WASD? And how does it stack up playing DAI?

 

I mean, the Belkin and the Orbweaver are designed for competitive play with FPS, RTS games.... something I did not expect from a supposedly Dragon Age RPG Bio game.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I wonder what happened here?

http://www.pcgamer.c...epic-interview/

Quoting Mark Darrah:

PC Gamer: Can you tell me a bit about developing it for console and PC, because I think some of the criticism levelled at Dragon Age 2 was because people felt there were compromises made to fit those two audiences. How have you attacked that particular problem this time around?
MD: Yeah, I mean the goal was to really get back to a more core experience. So, not always necessarily the experience that was in Dragon Age: Origins—in some cases just a more uncompromising role-playing experience. The UI is definitely the place where you see those compromises most often made. There’s a custom HUD for PC, and the inventory and the crafting are definitely places where we’ve tried to make sure the PC experience is designed PC-first. So it’s definitely been on our mind the whole time.

Does anyone think this inventory system was based "PC-first"?

Oh my Og. I have no words. Lol Someone should mail them a keyboard shaped cake like they did with ME3

[Sartoz]

@Pondcypress

 

Great.. just great!

 

See? I received a Futureshop gift card over Christmas and was thinking of getting myself a

Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X Joystick. Reason being, me, dropping DAI for now, and getting back to simulated flying via a flight simulator. Plus, the fact that STEAM has the revised Microsoft Flight Simulator X, with "good improvements and works well with Win 7/8... and 10.

 

You come along with the Orbweaver, which I looked up.. tempting, very tempting... On top of that, the Orbweaver can be used as a joystick... And I am also thinking of getting ELITE: Dangerous.

 

The Hotas is specifically designed for flight, while the Orbweaver seems to be a viable two for one deal.

 

Decisions,.... decisions...

 

Anyway, lots to review..

http://mynascarraceb...s-mappings.html

[Shelled]

So bioware banned a bunch of people from the forums after patch 3 released (myself included), many were among top 30 on the MP leaderboards (myself included), for giving out our opinion and criticism about the game and these patches. When a company can't take proper criticism about their own product that desperately needs to be fixed in multiple ways, what exactly is the consumer who purchased the product supposed to think at that point? 

I've been gaming for the last 20 years as one of my biggest hobbies, but this just straight up rubs me the wrong way. Are biowares developers really that conceited? The only other developer that I know of where I saw this level of ineptitude and just plain ignorance about their own work was Jay Wilson and eventually he had the intelligence to step down and know that he made a crappy game (or was fired). 

When I take Allan Schumacher's comments like this "Note that our forums are not for bug feedback"  <--- lmfao seriously? or BWEAmelia calling people a VILLAIN for making a legitimate video about how badly the game is broken? That video wasn't even about the PC single player problems either LOL! My god, are these people legitimately this conceited about their product? Do they really not understand that almost everyone in the pc community is completely enraged by this game? It's not even very far off from being a decent game, its just the tactical camera is terrible (no proper tilt, stuck to world mesh) and there's just way too many bugs in both sp and mp. Way too many. Not to mention the u.i is made for consoles as well as the controls and the tactical camera was basically built for the controller as well. 

You start calling this game out as exactly what it portrays itself to be; a damn buggy console port, and suddenly the community are villains and these forums aren't the place to discuss bugs. 

Wow.



Wow.
 

People need to be fired over there at this point, I don't want anyone to lose their job who does not deserve it, I really am not that kind of person, but this is effing ridiculous at this point. This is absolutely insane on a level that I've never seen before. Even ubisoft doesn't do things this poorly. After mass effect 3 you would have figured bioware had all the experience in the world about communicating and taking proper feedback at heart about a game they make. Apparently it had the opposite affect on them and made them all jaded and bitter. It's almost like they released this game to punish us or something lol.

All we want bioware is for you to actually fix this damn game instead of breaking things completely like the reaver or not fixing anything at all or introducing a ton of new bugs, and maybe make the pc version of the tactical camera and u.i, not completely suck. Also please reverse the changes made to the reaver because you did not bring that class in line with other classes for perilous difficulty, you just made it straight up useless instead.

I'm more curious as to why a feedback section even exists when we know at this point that they aren't even reading it, or are making snarky posts on their twitter/facebook behind our backs about how we don't know what we are talking about because we aren't game developers.

I've played the multiplayer for over 400 hours, and been pc gaming in general for the last 20 years. I think it's safe to say that this game is a buggy mess, that the tactical camera and the u.i is absolutely horrendous on PC platform and all you need to do to make that conclusion is to look at the dragon age origins tactical camera/u.i to find out why. I think it's safe to say that the multiplayer is unplayable and that many people literally disabled the free dlc because of how buggy it was, probably did so again after patch 3, I wouldn't know because I've quit the game at this point.

I know a lot of top leaderboard people who stopped playing this game because they completely lost faith in bioware at this point. I kid you not. They do not expect a dragon encounter in the multiplayer or anything like that to happen, or darkspawn additions, anything like that, or for it to get properly fixed at this point. There's also a ton of cheaters on the actual leaderboards that they don't give a crap about. People literally quit the game. That new level from the patch? Nonexistent lol.

Also they refuse to pay for any sort of expansion or dlc at all at this point, myself included. Would you expect anything else when your game is that horrendous?

[vetlet]

wait, people have been banned?

[Shelled]

wait, people have been banned?

Multiple people. Just got unbanned after 3 days because they didn't like my criticism regarding patch 3, or their imbecilic reaver change. Wasn't just me though, a lot of people did.

[Sartoz]

Let's face it. They can say all they want about being a PC gamer. PCs use a mouse (hey, it's got more buttons now and they're not mappable?), a keyboard. Controllers, gamepads, joysticks are optional. If they said up front, get a joystick because this is where we're headed... Fine. Did that happen? No. Instead we have excuses, fanboy bull and people coming to trash Bioware that are casual gamers who could care less about Origins. Does it even matter? No. Bioware ignores these forums unless someone is being reported on. I have no warning posts, but I fully expect a ban because I see more rats on this ship than actual crewmembers.

And that is the crux of it, isn't? The famous "..a pc game for pc gamers by pc gamers..", which explains much... about EA, Bioware and PC fans' reactions.

 

In hindsight, the decision to make this DAI a cross-platform console compatible game plus the jump feature, added to the complexity and problems to this game... such a pathing issues, performance issues.. and sometimes toxic (hardware wise) to certain PC configurations and old gen hardware. Don't forget the "streamlined" game controls for the target 14 year olds.

 

Bio does have a team in place to fix these issues... think a small team, though... so fixing our patch delivery expectations migh help.

[jcmuki]

you would think that each patch would improve the game, but it just makes it worse and more buggy or introduces new bugs and crashes

 

reading that Amelia forum and the bioware post is just depressinmg, its like the life is being drained out of me

 

DAI was suppose to be fun and entertaining, but like most AAA games recently actually getting the game to work properly is the problem. I have spend more time actually trying to get the game to not crash and work properly than actually playing the game

 

but im tired and i just reach a state of apathy for bioware and dai, where i just don't care enough to even get angry at them and want they to fix the game and with recently forum post it seem that the bioware dev don't care about their potential customers and reveune source either

 

well thats that....back to playing huniepop

[Renko]

What lesson did you exactly learn? That a non-legal game plays better?

 

Good games deserved to be bought. Bad games deserved to be.....

[JackPoint]

So bioware banned a bunch of people from the forums after patch 3 released (myself included), many were among top 30 on the MP leaderboards (myself included), for giving out our opinion and criticism about the game and these patches. When a company can't take proper criticism about their own product that desperately needs to be fixed in multiple ways, what exactly is the consumer who purchased the product supposed to think at that point? 

I've been gaming for the last 20 years as one of my biggest hobbies, but this just straight up rubs me the wrong way. Are biowares developers really that conceited? The only other developer that I know of where I saw this level of ineptitude and just plain ignorance about their own work was Jay Wilson and eventually he had the intelligence to step down and know that he made a crappy game (or was fired). 

When I take Allan Schumacher's comments like this "Note that our forums are not for bug feedback"  <--- lmfao seriously? or BWEAmelia calling people a VILLAIN for making a legitimate video about how badly the game is broken? That video wasn't even about the PC single player problems either LOL! My god, are these people legitimately this conceited about their product? Do they really not understand that almost everyone in the pc community is completely enraged by this game? It's not even very far off from being a decent game, its just the tactical camera is terrible (no proper tilt, stuck to world mesh) and there's just way too many bugs in both sp and mp. Way too many. Not to mention the u.i is made for consoles as well as the controls and the tactical camera was basically built for the controller as well. 

You start calling this game out as exactly what it portrays itself to be; a damn buggy console port, and suddenly the community are villains and these forums aren't the place to discuss bugs. 

Wow.



Wow.
 

People need to be fired over there at this point, I don't want anyone to lose their job who does not deserve it, I really am not that kind of person, but this is effing ridiculous at this point. This is absolutely insane on a level that I've never seen before. Even ubisoft doesn't do things this poorly. After mass effect 3 you would have figured bioware had all the experience in the world about communicating and taking proper feedback at heart about a game they make. Apparently it had the opposite affect on them and made them all jaded and bitter. It's almost like they released this game to punish us or something lol.

All we want bioware is for you to actually fix this damn game instead of breaking things completely like the reaver or not fixing anything at all or introducing a ton of new bugs, and maybe make the pc version of the tactical camera and u.i, not completely suck. Also please reverse the changes made to the reaver because you did not bring that class in line with other classes for perilous difficulty, you just made it straight up useless instead.

I'm more curious as to why a feedback section even exists when we know at this point that they aren't even reading it, or are making snarky posts on their twitter behind our backs about how we don't know what we are talking about because we aren't game developers.

I've played the multiplayer for over 400 hours, and been pc gaming in general for the last 20 years. I think it's safe to say that this game is a buggy mess, that the tactical camera and the u.i is absolutely horrendous on PC platform and all you need to do to make that conclusion is to look at the dragon age origins tactical camera/u.i to find out why. I think it's safe to say that the multiplayer is unplayable and that many people literally disabled the free dlc because of how buggy it was, probably did so again after patch 3, I wouldn't know because I've quit the game at this point.

I know a lot of top leaderboard people who stopped playing this game because they completely lost faith in bioware at this point. I kid you not. They do not expect a dragon encounter in the multiplayer or anything like that to happen, or darkspawn additions, anything like that, or for it to get properly fixed at this point. People literally quit the game.

Also they refuse to pay for any sort of expansion or dlc at all at this point, myself included. Would you expect anything else when your game is that horrendous?

Wb Shelled lol, yeh EAware can suck my salty ball sack, won't ever get another penny from me after the bullshit lies and PR over DAI,

[Kosmos Agamemnon]

A rant for the end of a particularly terrible year for games on PC. I apologise to those of you who also have probably seen enough of these but to be quite frank I've had it with the patches that fix very little and break even more....

 

 

Yet again we have another games company that seems to have forgotten how to produce functioning software on PC. "The game is really big and complex" is not a valid excuse for the persistent bugs that riddle the title. Dragon Age: Inquisition was launched more than 3 months ago and we seem to be no nearer to fixing day one graphics SLI glitching today as we were at the point of release. I'm sorry Bioware but 'disable SLI' is not a valid solution. It should not be possible to create the kind of flickering that we see on SLI powered machines with your title, the sync operations performed by both cards are supposed to eliminate this kind of flaw so you've certainly achieved something remarkable right there at least.

 

2014 has been the year of unbelievably buggy pap shovelled out the publishers door on to retail outlet shelves, I don't recall ever seeing such an epic collection of consistent fail across publishers on this platform. Why can't games companies actually launch a product that is actually finished?  I don't know of any AAA title released on PC over the whole of 2014 that actually did not need significant patches to address serious bugs and Bioware haven't simply joined those publishers they are waving the flag and yelling "Look at me I'm crap too on PC!" joining other developers by releasing bug riddled crap. Perhaps MGS V Ground Zeroes would be one of the two titles AAA that actually worked when I picked it up, but lets be honest, that was a demo.

 

The state of AAA games on PC is terrible, Watch_Dogs was hopelessly broken on launch, Dragon Age: Inquisition has more bugs than a tea bag has perforations. And it comes as no surprise that Inqusition was buggy after all it uses Battlefield 4's engine, you know, the game that was broken for almost 9 months after its launch. How about Capcom? Dead Rising wasn't just simply broken on launch it was a complete disaster. While Inquisition at least recognises that PC gamers have a keyboard and mouse, From Software's Dark Souls 2 didn't even feature control indicators! Not to mention its horrible mouse acceleration effect or the downgraded lighting model, representing another in a long line of crap ports, the game itself is good but that doesn't make the port particularly great. Creative Assemblies Alien Isolation was one of the better releases this year despite persisting bugs like items appearing on screen even when they and you are in different rooms, excessively long loading times and random crashes. Ubisoft's Assassins Creed Unity was a slow motion disaster (thanks to a terrible frame rate) that is still unfolding. While their other blockbuster,  Far Cry 4 shipped with untold performance issues, I'm sick of acting as a beta tester for supposedly finished products that you (publishers collectively) are selling. It isn't good enough to simply sit back and say 'Well the title is complex.' And this is what really grates me, It's not just Bioware its Ubisoft. Its not just Capcom, its EA, its not just From Software but Creative Assembly too.

 

Its not like inquisition was an isolated buggy Bioware release either the Mass Effect trilogy has major problems that are still with us today, anyone playing ME2 and experienced the clipping issues in the cockpit or in Omega or, well, potentially anywhere in that game knows what I mean. And the damned clipping problems are present in ME3 too! There is a reason why PC gamers are justifiably anxious and concerned about these bugs and its because Bioware like all console developers have a history of failing to address them on PC. Seriously, PC gamers expend the most amount of money on their chosen platform as it is, and they get served crap at $60 a pop for their efforts and it is simply not good enough.

 

If "the title is so complex" is your rationale for a lack of appropriate bug-fixing and QA on your fixes for your products then you should not have developed the product, because its complexity is clearly beyond your capabilities. I have been a Bioware fan since before the Neverwinter Nights franchise and it kills me to see you rank among the shoddy publishers that churn out AAA garbage that is broken on delivery. I honestly will never pick up a Bioware title again. I've already had it with Ubisoft back when Watch_Dogs launched (I cancelled every Ubisoft pre-order I had open across all platforms I own and boy am I pleased with that outcome). I've had it with the bug-riddled rubbish, I am not paying to be your beta tester, I'm paying for the finished product so that when I come home after a hard day at work I can relax without having to put up with stupid crap like random crashes and stupid texture and shadow flicker because you don't know how to support SLI. So next time you launch a title, call me and let me know it works, let me know its in a finished playable state minus the stupid graphical glitches and broken save games, and the stupid voice changes because I customise the appearance of a character and the silly crash bugs. Then I might, MIGHT think about buying the title if it actually is a good game and not an exercise in dullsville.

[Dutchess]

If serious.
If not serious.

The thread, now locked, pointed out how one engaged player became disinclined to interact positively. As I read the thread it was if looking into a bizarre alternative reality of the SP PC experience where there is interaction but the results are... well, I recommend watching the video at the start of it all to better understand. PenguinFetish did a really good job explaining his position but ultimately fell into the crux of using legitimate examples...

 

Just read Allan's closing posts. Their forums are not for bug report? What?

[Amplitudelol]

Just read Allan's closing posts. Their forums are not for bug report? What?

 

It is for you to tell the developers they are special and loved and the games they develop are without issues and awesome at the same time and they are worth the money you are paying and much more. Now that would not be toxic.

[Dutchess]

It is for you to tell the developers they are special and loved and the games they develop are without issues and awesome at the same time and they are worth the money you are paying and much more. Now that would not be toxic.

 

Maybe they should rename the "Feedback & Suggestions" section to "Compliments & Praise". And delete all other sections.

[Dreamer]

The only cognitive dissonance I saw in that thread was @BWEAmelia insisting that the community could have a single voice while at the same time recognizing the community often has conflicting feedback. Either you recognize that a community is made of many people--and therefore many voices--or you believe we're all one homogenous group of hate. I'll give you a hint: We're not homogenous.

 

The follow-up suggestion to read PR for Dummies was genius.

[Sartoz]

Oh my Og. I have no words. Lol Someone should mail them a keyboard shaped cake like they did with ME3

Lovely...   priceless!!!

[Rizilliant]

More people need to stick to their EA boycott statements..  Some here may be younger, and not old enought o rememebr the 90's, when consumers used the power they had.. Withholding funds is power! Reporting the the BBB is effective.. Making youtube videos, forums threads, reviews, etc. ALL  stack up! Word of mouth is huge in any industry.. 

 

WE just need to stop buying from these shoddy companies.. Pre-ordering is another thign that needs to stop.. Along with day 1 dlc, and the 10 differnt kinds of Collectors editions, founders packs, etc.. Stop buying it, and things WILL change!!!

[zeypher]

The controls and no mouse binding, holding right mouse button to move camera all this is actually making my bloody hand hurt. Would also like a camera lock if they can add it.

[Sartoz]

Yes 2014 has been a year that all PC players won't soon forget. You'll do well in remembering this year EA, Gearbox and Zenimax, to mention a few of this years biggest liars.

I'm lucky then.

 

I bought one game that I was so enthusiastically looking forward to play.

[zeypher]

Same here since i expected cross gen games to be terrible and i swore off ubisoft games anyways. Bought inquisition managed to get it to work to experience a weak action game which was barely a RPG.

 

I hope and keep hoping controls get fixed, and future patches and stuff make the game better. But until then i rather just play a bit of skyrim as atleast i have some freedom there.

[Sartoz]

Oh my Og. I have no words. Lol Someone should mail them a keyboard shaped cake like they did with ME3

"..So it’s definitely been on our mind the whole time."

 

LOL.

Could be it's a true statement... it just failed to emerge on the PC platform.

[Postem]

Multiple people. Just got unbanned after 3 days because they didn't like my criticism regarding patch 3, or their imbecilic reaver change. Wasn't just me though, a lot of people did.

 

Looks like they wont ban you if you just keep on this thread. I said a lot of things and nothing happened. It seen they are using this as a containment thread.