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#1176
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Well that sucks, I can't get a refund due to passing the 24 hour game played even though someone over here got a refund pass that time due to EA tech support who just turn me down unless I purchase a PS 3 version then I can get a refund for the PC version. Looks like EA is getting really fed up over the PC gamers refund. At least they did pass my crappy mouse and keyboard control complain to the relevant department.

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Lets face it guys: Bioware is only going to fix the most visible bugs that appear on all platorms, and even then they'll take their sweet time. We're not going to be getting any fast modular updates or mega bug fixes. Bioware is not known for optimisation or extensive bug testing.
PC controls will remain unfixed since Bioware doesn't like people challenging its creative direction.While this is fine on social issues (like more LGBT characters and less focus on a teenage,heterosexual, white male audience), it also means that right now the BIoware devs think that even the politest complaints on this forum aren't "constructive" criticism and part of toxic fan cuture. I doubt any of the complaints are being read beyond actual bugs like the enforced voice change for the Inquisitor if you choose a custom Hawke.
Its doubtful they'll get roung to fixing performance issues and bugs on the pc. I'm not sure Bioware is the sort of studio that can spend a couple of months/weeks programming out some of the worst technocal issues. I'm not sure they want to either.
 
This isn't the first time we've been lied to as gamers (think of  the whole Fable series), nor is it the first bad port from a studio that had the funding, but decided that other goals were more important (before Christmas sales). I'll forgive Bioware for their lies. I hardly expect game developers to be  honest about their product anyway
 
There is an enjoyable game hidden under the bugs and UI issues.I've also been fortunate not to experience any major engine related bugs so that probably also skews my assessment of the game. I do sometimes have to alt tab out of a black menu screen even though this game does about 60 FPS for me on Ultra and after a couple of hours (generally 4-5) the game does sometimes crash for no reason. Its a solid 7, maybe an 8 if they can actually release some patches.
 
To put this in perspective I thought that Skyrim was honestly the worst game in the Elder Scrolls series (I'd get so bored and then get so sleepy playing the game) until Bethesda proved that they could make something even worse: The Elder Scrolls Online
 
Face the truth guys. When it comes to feedback, Bioware will do what it has always done...ignore us


Doudt it, Bioware may be able to ignore us but they can't ignored EA if they are making far less money on PC then on consoles questions would be raise by EA on the crappy sales as well as the huge number of refunds.
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With books to burn ? and people to torture ? =D

Why not but i meant this

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Lets face it guys: Bioware is only going to fix the most visible bugs that appear on all platorms, and even then they'll take their sweet time. We're not going to be getting any fast modular updates or mega bug fixes. Bioware is not known for optimisation or extensive bug testing.

PC controls will remain unfixed since Bioware doesn't like people challenging its creative direction.While this is fine on social issues (like more LGBT characters and less focus on a teenage,heterosexual, white male audience), it also means that right now the BIoware devs think that even the politest complaints on this forum aren't "constructive" criticism and part of toxic fan cuture. I doubt any of the complaints are being read beyond actual bugs like the enforced voice change for the Inquisitor if you choose a custom Hawke.

Its doubtful they'll get roung to fixing performance issues and bugs on the pc. I'm not sure Bioware is the sort of studio that can spend a couple of months/weeks programming out some of the worst technocal issues. I'm not sure they want to either.

 

This isn't the first time we've been lied to as gamers (think of  the whole Fable series), nor is it the first bad port from a studio that had the funding, but decided that other goals were more important (before Christmas sales). I'll forgive Bioware for their lies. I hardly expect game developers to be  honest about their product anyway

 

There is an enjoyable game hidden under the bugs and UI issues.I've also been fortunate not to experience any major engine related bugs so that probably also skews my assessment of the game. I do sometimes have to alt tab out of a black menu screen even though this game does about 60 FPS for me on Ultra and after a couple of hours (generally 4-5) the game does sometimes crash for no reason. Its a solid 7, maybe an 8 if they can actually release some patches.

 

To put this in perspective I thought that Skyrim was honestly the worst game in the Elder Scrolls series (I'd get so bored and then get so sleepy playing the game) until Bethesda proved that they could make something even worse: The Elder Scrolls Online

 

Face the truth guys. When it comes to feedback, Bioware will do what it has always done...ignore us

Because they have tumblr community lo listen to, lol, why would they mind anyone here?



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Everything has to be Skyrim nowadays because it sold so well. Skyrim might be marketed as an RPG, but it is actually just a mediocre action game and hiking simulator full to the brim with boring and badly designed filler content.

Even Mass Effect 4 is going to be "Skyrimised". :rolleyes: The new ME game is going to be all about exploration, which means exploring planets with the Mako while doing boring and simplistic filler content like in DA:I or any other modern open world game.

EA doesn't care about the formula that made DA:O, ME1 and ME2 such great games. All they care about is boosting sales and believe that mutilating Bioware's franchises by copying Skyrim and alienating their fan base is the best way to achieve this.

Problem is skyrim is a game of the year game so something was done right.

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Lets face it guys: Bioware is only going to fix the most visible bugs that appear on all platorms, and even then they'll take their sweet time. We're not going to be getting any fast modular updates or mega bug fixes. Bioware is not known for optimisation or extensive bug testing.

PC controls will remain unfixed since Bioware doesn't like people challenging its creative direction.While this is fine on social issues (like more LGBT characters and less focus on a teenage,heterosexual, white male audience), it also means that right now the BIoware devs think that even the politest complaints on this forum aren't "constructive" criticism and part of toxic fan cuture. I doubt any of the complaints are being read beyond actual bugs like the enforced voice change for the Inquisitor if you choose a custom Hawke.

Its doubtful they'll get roung to fixing performance issues and bugs on the pc. I'm not sure Bioware is the sort of studio that can spend a couple of months/weeks programming out some of the worst technocal issues. I'm not sure they want to either.

 

This isn't the first time we've been lied to as gamers (think of  the whole Fable series), nor is it the first bad port from a studio that had the funding, but decided that other goals were more important (before Christmas sales). I'll forgive Bioware for their lies. I hardly expect game developers to be  honest about their product anyway

 

There is an enjoyable game hidden under the bugs and UI issues.I've also been fortunate not to experience any major engine related bugs so that probably also skews my assessment of the game. I do sometimes have to alt tab out of a black menu screen even though this game does about 60 FPS for me on Ultra and after a couple of hours (generally 4-5) the game does sometimes crash for no reason. Its a solid 7, maybe an 8 if they can actually release some patches.

 

To put this in perspective I thought that Skyrim was honestly the worst game in the Elder Scrolls series (I'd get so bored and then get so sleepy playing the game) until Bethesda proved that they could make something even worse: The Elder Scrolls Online

 

Face the truth guys. When it comes to feedback, Bioware will do what it has always done...ignore us

 

That's what worries me. I'm not even sure that, even if they wanted, they could fix most of the problems PC community identified. Frostbite engine was not the best solution for this game, they even said in some videos that they had some problems to overcome with it.

 

We could have settle for a moddable game, but even that seems unlikely.

 

As for controls and Tac CAM, even if they could fix this, it would require a lot of work they'll never be wanting to do cause they just don't care. And the fact that PC version would be better than console if they modified this would cause a lot of trouble with Microsoft that obviously did something to have the XBOXONE appears everywhere on promotion...

 

Just look at the PC video promotion : they showed us nothing while promising we would have the BEST experience. It was marketing crap (and I have a master degree in marketing so I know what I'm talking about ^^).

 

Oh and I tried to play with the XBOX controller on my PC : NO WAY ITS GONNA WORK !



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Best thing to do is warn PC gamers not to buy the PC version of the game until they fixed the mouse and keyboard controls unless they want to play with a controller.
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#1183
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Patch this week?

 

Or more lies and contempt?

 

Also, this is an interesting change to his twitter background...


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I feel like such a fool for buying this game. Literally every bug has hit me:
-Race/gender swap
-Keep messed up the same as regular imports did in previous games (keep is just a weak anti-piracy measure)
-Knight-enchanter spirit blade bug
-Qunari armor bug (armor doesn't show up on PC and Iron Bull)
-Barely got DLC and pre-order stuff to show up (one dagger, no helmet, really?)
-Couldn't download soundtrack

All performance and control issues aside these bugs have rendered the game unplayable to me as they greatly ruin the expirience for me. I'm literally getting laughed at for buying the game. Even built a brand new PC just for the game and everything is set up perfectly.

So now I'm sitting here with my overpriced CE guide staring at an "game" I waited for years to be actually made playable.

Last time I've ever given a dime for a video game.
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#1185
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Patch this week?
 
Or more lies and contempt?
 
Also, this is an interesting change to his twitter background...


Is that a PC disk ???

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They never bothered to fix the memory leak and performance problems in DA:O, im not very confident they can do much better with DA:I. 



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They never bothered to fix the memory leak and performance problems in DA:O, im not very confident they can do much better with DA:I.



Problem is I never noticed these problems and so it mostly likely doesn't effected gameplay.

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Patch this week?

 

Or more lies and contempt?

 

Also, this is an interesting change to his twitter background...

 

Not interesting at ALL. A confirmation of whats been said before by everyone. To Bioware next gen>pc>last gen. They've learned things from DA2's reception, just not the lessons you wanted them to learn. Don't worry though.If Bioware starts making things exclusively for consoles, then console users will experience first-hand the amount of love Bioware gives to people who criticise them over qa issues. Forget about complaining about the games performance or artistic direction, if they can't even fix bugs then they won't care about any of that stuff



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Is that a PC disk ???

 

Another proof that BW does not care about PC community. I've checked twitter & facebook (both french and english) and there's no mention of PC anywhere... Just f.... consoles everywhere.

 

Rejoice PC community, we've been fooled and sh.. on =(


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Boycotting their games will make them listen, the only reason they can keep on conning us is because we still buy their games despite our complains.
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Problem is I never noticed these problems and so it mostly likely doesn't effected gameplay.

 

Once you get to mid game, you had to quit and restart the game often, because load times became increasingly longer with each new zone you traveled to until it took several minutes to do a simple load. It was a huge problem back when i played the game, that also affected many players, which was never fixed. 



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Problem is I never noticed these problems and so it mostly likely doesn't effected gameplay.

It just meant that many people experienced progressively longer load times between area's. It wasn't really a hardware issue since people who didn't even have dual cores as well as people who did had the same problem (although load lengths did vary). It was "mostly" fixed by Bioware. Even with no mods installed it will take longer to load levels the longer you've played, its just no longer as noticeable with the Large Area Access  patches and newer hardware, but when it came out it was noticeable. Even today the game doesn't seem to know how to use more that two cores properly, so you'll probably still experience some a little bit of this effect


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Patch this week?

 

Or more lies and contempt?

 

Also, this is an interesting change to his twitter background...

Can you please post this as a photo on here? The graphics are optically stunning.

 

And I add, a little insensitive considering the lead off post to this topic. It really needs to be visually represented here.



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Boycotting their games will make them listen, the only reason they can keep on conning us is because we still buy their games despite our complains.

 

This will not work, despite what you think the people on this forum are not the majority of the customers, were only the loudest ones. :)

 

I'd like to wait and see what will become of upcoming patches and then render judgement. Despite the bugs, horrible console ui & technical problems i'm loving my time in the game so they definitly did something right. 

 

The fact that they already acknowlegded these issues so soon after release gives me hope. I remember the ME3 ending fiasco when people spammed the bioware forums until they announced the free enhanced ending.


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Cross-posting here from the EA Answers forum:

 

Been having the same problem as everyone with the Direct X error. I have an older computer but was running everything beautifully with great temps at "Automatic" settings which were set to high. The only times I had an issue was during conversations and times when the camera automatically changed in conversation, and the war room. That's when I'd get the DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG message.

 

Everybody's different of course, but what ended up working for me was turning off ambient occlusion and turning off Origins In-Game. I played for a whole day on my Automatic/High settings without one error.

 

Well, until I tried to load into Val Royeaux the first time, then I crashed repeatedly.

 

What I've done is make a save right before I go into the war room to change zones, set everything to LOW and loaded it, zoned in, then turned the settings back up. It's actually ridiculous to have to do this but at least I can play the game.

 

I thought this must be the herald of the end of my computer's life, but it plays every other title on medium to high settings like a champ and even THIS game on high settings when not randomly having these Direct X issues.

 

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1.) Crashes to desktop during LONG cutscenes both with and without SLI, with and without DirextX error message. Haven, Skyhold, Orlais.

 

(DirectX Error states: DirextX Function "GetDeviceRemovedReason" failed with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG ("The application's device failed due to badly formed commands sent by the application. This is an design-time issue that should be investigated and fixed.") GPU:"NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760", Driver 34475

 

2.) Causing graphics cards to be unrecognized in nVidia Inspector, forcing a manual resetting of settings, and also causing them to rum extremely hot. (for me usually crashes at around 60 degrees

celcius.) I have Dual GTX 760 Direct CU II OCs in sli mode, and have my system connected directly to a 5,000 BTU window a/c unit.

 

3.) Mouse control goes "wonky" during war room mission map, and during conversation reply selection.

A) Also happens in journal. opens submenues in other catagories than the one the mouse is pointing at.

 

 

4.) Tactical cam not allowing enough "zoom out" to view enough of the battle area. (also feels like it was set up for controllers, not keyboard/mouse!)

 

5.) Multiple Glitches in missions:

A.) Fallow Mire

          1.) Geological Survey keeps being re-offered

          2.) Ferelden History keeps being re-offered

B.)Other-

     1.) Blood and Lotus - when I get low on Elfroot, or Blood Lotus, or pick up more of either, the "Blood and Lotus complete" message keeps popping up.

 

6.) Player character becomes stuck and unmovable in "HISSING DESSERT" at initial spawn point.

Was able to work around this by taking control of another character in my group and moving a considerable distance away from the initial spawn location, eventually the player character was playable again.

 

Here are my system specs...

OS:      Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Mobo:    Asus M5A99FX Pro r2.0
CPU:     AMD Black Edition FX-8350 8-core @4GHz
RAM:     32GB corsair XMS3 Series DDR3 @1600 c11
Video:   Dual Asus GTX 760DCUII OC 2GB (SLI)
HDD:     2x 1TB WD SataIII 6.0GB/s (OS, Storage and Applications)
         1x 3TB WD SataIII 6.0GB/s (Games)
Monitor: Magnavox 40MF401B 40" 1920X1080p @60Hz

Modifié par DeltaAgent26, 24 novembre 2014 - 11:10 .


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Can you please post this as a photo on here? The graphics are optically stunning.

And I add, a little insensitive considering the lead off post to this topic. It really needs to be visually represented here.

It's actually from a Nov 14th pic on his feed showing off the discs, as they had likely just arrived. Do not think it was an anti-pc statement when he posted it.

Though making it his background image now, most definitely is...
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nvm.



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Well that sucks, I can't get a refund due to passing the 24 hour game played even though someone over here got a refund pass that time due to EA tech support who just turn me down unless I purchase a PS 3 version then I can get a refund for the PC version. Looks like EA is getting really fed up over the PC gamers refund. At least they did pass my crappy mouse and keyboard control complain to the relevant department.

 

I had a similar problem in regards to getting a refund, but was eventually successful after speaking to four different "advisors" within a twelve-hour period. While there is no guarantee that the approach I took will work for other players who are having similarly extreme problems with the game, I'd like to help however I can, so here is my handy, dandy Dragon Age: Inquisition Refund Guide. Use at your own risk.

 

1. When speaking to an EA Games advisor, always be polite.

 

2. If you buy something that doesn't work in the way a company knowingly and deliberately led you to believe it would, ethically speaking, you are 100% entitled to a refund regardless of what that company's refund "policy" is. If the advisor insists otherwise, end the chat and try again with a different advisor.

 

3. Be polite.

 

4. Whether or not your case has been "escalated" to a "specialist" has absolutely no bearing on the advisors' ability to give you a refund. I know this to be a fact, because I was told this lie three times in a row, but still managed to get one. If the advisor insists otherwise, end the chat and try again with a different advisor.

 

5. Rude = bad. Polite = good.

 

6. One of the advisors I spoke to attempted to convince me that I was going to receive a refund, but the way he worded it seemed odd. When I asked how long it would take for the money to reappear on my credit card, the way that was worded was also odd. When I asked the advisor point blank if he was definitely giving me a refund, he reluctantly admitted that he wasn't. When an advisor is truly giving you a refund, they will provide you with both an invoice number and a reference number. If the advisor insists otherwise, end the chat and try again with a different advisor.

 

7. Don't forget to be polite.

 

You're not being told to do 1, 3, 5, and 7 out of respect for EA Games, Bioware, or even the advisors. The reason you should be polite at all times is because you do not want to give anyone an excuse to suspend or ban your account. For so long as you treat the advisors respectfully, they have to keep dealing with you. Close the chat window and try again in an hour or so if you think you're about to lose your temper. If you feel an overwhelming urge to punish the advisor(s) for being difficult, just remember that the mere shame of being an EA Games employee is punishment enough for nearly any sin a human being can commit. No need for revenge. The universe has already done it for you.

 

In closing, be the most courteous, assertive, and persistent nuisance you can be, and you will eventually get the refund you deserve, Good luck. :)


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Brogan, it is a post worthy picture today today (showing the current Tweets). This is definitely Darrah unscripted. Whereas his post in this topic was scripted by PIO. It is word for word the press release - and it is aimed at getting ahead of the story.