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LOL, I actually had that happen, we were roofing an addition and, of course, Billy goat, being a goat just had to see what was in all those buckets up there. You know goats climb scaffolding rather well. They also tip over tool buckets and, roofing tar buckets quite well when you attempt to remove said goat from the roof and, they make a horrible lot of racket (noise) when you have to hog tie them so you can carry them back down the scaffolding.

 

Still it think removing the goat was easier that getting all of the glitches and bugs worked out of this game. :)

 

Note: We no longer own goats or horses, have owned both. As well as many other species. Now we have wolfdogs, rabbits, a conure (parrot type bird), fish and, one cat is all.

 

What breed goat?

 

When I was growing up we had a small herd of Nubians and a couple of Toggenburgs.



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Have you tried turning off Origin Overlay in game? I highly recommend, if you are not a big fan of trophys and stuff like that, using Outcome. Killed a lot of my stuttering problems since i have now a pretty bad rig. 

I have tried almost every fix I could find except for updating my Bios.

But what annoys me the most is that my brother's GF can play the game on a slightly worse system than mine without running into CPU usage issue. We both run the same NVidea GPUs with her's being an older version (GTX 750 Ti if you would like to know) and an AMD Phenom II deneb (mine is overclocked at about 4 GHz, her's isn't OC at all). That is what truly frustrates me about this.

I'm not hating on her. I'm hatin on the stupid situation.



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I have tried almost every fix I could find except for updating my Bios.

But what annoys me the most is that my brother's GF can play the game on a slightly worse system than mine without running into CPU usage issue. We both run the same NVidea GPUs with her's being an older version (GTX 750 Ti if you would like to know) and an AMD Phenom II deneb (mine is overclocked at about 4 GHz, her's isn't OC at all). That is what truly frustrates me about this.

I'm not hating on her. I'm hatin on the stupid situation.

 

Yeah, i understand. I had a similar situation with my brother´s PC. He has an AMD built, high specs, but when i played the game there was awfull. My first PT was ok on my low specs rig. My second on his PC was horrible. I did some blood magic **** and kinda fixed it, but well, is frustrating having a gaming machine and see that others with lower specs have no problems at all. The game is awfully CPU intensive tho.  

 

About Nvidia, gives more problems than AMD, since the consoles have AMD contract and the game is a port...You can imagine where that comes from. I saw the guys saying there was a new driver available. I don´t know if it will fix anything but... 



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Yeah, i understand. I had a similar situation with my brother´s PC. He has an AMD built, high specs, but when i played the game there was awfull. My first PT was ok on my low specs rig. My second on his PC was horrible. I did some blood magic **** and kinda fixed it, but well, is frustrating having a gaming machine and see that others with lower specs have no problems at all. The game is awfully CPU intensive tho.  

 

About Nvidia, gives more problems than AMD, since the consoles have AMD contract and the game is a port...You can imagine where that comes from. I saw the guys saying there was a new driver available. I don´t know if it will fix anything but... 

That's just the thing: One of things I tried was upgrading my graphics card from an AMD Radeon to the GTX because of the exact same problem, yet the improvement was astronomically low. I have not tried going back to the Radeon since, but I suppose it is worth another shot.



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That's just the thing: One of things I tried was upgrading my graphics card from an AMD Radeon to the GTX because of the exact same problem, yet the improvement was astronomically low. I have not tried going back to the Radeon since, but I suppose it is worth another shot.

 

If you can afford it, go ahead, but as someone else recomended to me, i don´t really know if butchering your system (and your wallet) is worth it, since the problem is not the rig but the game itself. Maybe wait for REAL fixes? Prepare for a long wait tho. Just my opinion. 


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What breed goat?

 

When I was growing up we had a small herd of Nubians and a couple of Toggenburgs.

This one was a Nubian cross. Great goat, my then 4 yr old granddaughter used to sit on him and, take naps with him as her pillow. He was just a curious "helpful" goat that had to be in the middle of whatever we were doing. I had a nubian and toggenburg nanny for him. Eventually sold them to a family that needed the milk for a child that was allergic to cow milk and, having a hard time finding goats they could afford that could be milked. I love goat milk, grew up on it but, the rest of my family isn't so fond of it and, they needed the goats so, I sold them.


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#13157
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Coming soon to Inquisition:

 

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If you can afford it, go ahead, but as someone else recomended to me, i don´t really know if butchering your system (and your wallet) is worth it, since the problem is not the rig but the game itself. Maybe wait for REAL fixes? Prepare for a long wait tho. Just my opinion. 

I just didn't know if anyone else had any luck with the situation. I already spent too much money to try to get a better performing system. I'm not spending anymore.



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I just didn't know if anyone else had any luck with the situation. I already spent too much money to try to get a better performing system. I'm not spending anymore.

 

Well said. The thing is that the issues are so random that you can´t be sure, changing your rig may help, may not. But as i said before, i do not think it worthwhile. Wait for the fixes coming from those who have to fix this mess and meanwhile save your cash for future games/rigs. 



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Just had the game crash to lock up/restart twice in the tutorial, where my new Inquisitor has green eyeliner for some reason.

 

Has there been a new patch or something?

 

To the people posting 'I'm not having any problems, I don't know what other people are complaining about', you really need to NOT do that.    


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Just had a thought! This issue with DAI may be more complex. We have the AMD vs NVidia drivers. But we also are aware that the game files are compressed then extracted as you enter an area. If your hard disk is fragmented or has any errors or is low on space then this is going to be the first area to crash.

The reason I put this forward is that I have very few crashes,etc . Had DirectX errors early on. A few random CTD's. But I do have a 4TB RAID 5 system with autodefrag. Buckets of headroom too. Just an idea. Maybe completely wrong but worth looking at. If a game crashes the first thing you suspect is graphics.



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Just had a thought! This issue with DAI may be more complex. We have the AMD vs NVidia drivers. But we also are aware that the game files are compressed then extracted as you enter an area. If your hard disk is fragmented or has any errors or is low on space then this is going to be the first area to crash.

The reason I put this forward is that I have very few crashes,etc . Had DirectX errors early on. A few random CTD's. But I do have a 4TB RAID 5 system with autodefrag. Buckets of headroom too. Just an idea. Maybe completely wrong but worth looking at. If a game crashes the first thing you suspect is graphics.

 

It's a good theory. However, I think it may have more to do with RAM than actual hard disk space. 

 

I have 16 Gig of good quality RAM so I never really experience loading problems and general performance problems people describe here.

Add Windows 10 and DX12 to the mix and I can testify that not only do my PC components now run between 10-20 degrees cooler, my game is also running smoother than ever.

 

There are a LOT of variables in PC gaming, so it's a miracle they get it to work at all...


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#13163
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Yeah, i understand. I had a similar situation with my brother´s PC. He has an AMD built, high specs, but when i played the game there was awfull. My first PT was ok on my low specs rig. My second on his PC was horrible. I did some blood magic **** and kinda fixed it, but well, is frustrating having a gaming machine and see that others with lower specs have no problems at all. The game is awfully CPU intensive tho.  

 

About Nvidia, gives more problems than AMD, since the consoles have AMD contract and the game is a port...You can imagine where that comes from. I saw the guys saying there was a new driver available. I don´t know if it will fix anything but... 

 

People you should stop thinking that the game will run better on AMD hardware BECAUSE consoles runs AMD hardware.

The console architecture and PC architecture are completely different and both consoles run with different operating systems and different hardware, despite similar architecture, and for the last, last generation consoles are completely different architectures.

 

You can call this game a port, it is true about when you consider demographic and mechanics of game, focused on console first, but the game is, from a technical view, agnostic. Every game done for multi plataform from the beginning is basically plataform agnostic.

Basically, you have the game programmed in some language, that is compiled and uses a different hardware implementation for each plataform. This is where Frostbite comes in, a rendering engine already done with framework to work on all plafaforms.

 

The game on PC is build/compiled to run OVER DirectX 11 or Mantle. Both plataforms are hardware independent, ie, you point to function calls, you dont address commands on the card itself. There is nothing on code that is optimized for AMD cpus, its all based on common CPU instructions.

 

Some people already come with bizarre theories like the game runs as an "emulator" on PC, which is a joke, because it makes no sense at all, since you already have an engine that is running on the consoles and PC.

 

In the end, you can have any kind of hardware or software issues that are causing crashes and BSODs. If you have a nice system, you probably already should have done stability tests. Every new rig i get i do torture stability tests to asset overclock potential. I have a system that have 5 years (not main rig), its slower now but its rock solid.

 

The bottom line is, the PC is a plataform that consist in a myriad of configurations. Every PC have several components that can give you issues. If you choose cheap parts (im not saying slower, im saying cheap in a crap sense), you will get stability issues. We have seen this over and over. Crappy manufactureres motherboards with capacitors that blow up, like pcchips; defective memory from shady vendors; unbranded PSUs that have irregular or dirty power supply; crappy cpu coolers or even dust build up.  If you build your own rig you are supposed to do it right, and maintain the system as well.


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#13164
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It's a good theory. However, I think it may have more to do with RAM than actual hard disk space. 

 

I have 16 Gig of good quality RAM so I never really experience loading problems and general performance problems people describe here.

Add Windows 10 and DX12 to the mix and I can testify that not only do my PC components now run between 10-20 degrees cooler, my game is also running smoother than ever.

 

There are a LOT of variables in PC gaming, so it's a miracle they get it to work at all...

 

Nice input Dubya. I said the same some days ago, Frostbite engine works with precaching a lot of content. When i play BF on 16GB it can take 1 minute to load first time then all maps after load almost imediate. Same With Inquisition, it take, like 30 sec, to first load, then all other loads take less than 5 seconds.

 

About Windows 10 you are already using? How is that going? The game is supposed to work in Dx12? I dont think so... im looking forward what you say about running cooler, you are archieving it just by using W10?


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Nice input Dubya. I said the same some days ago, Frostbite engine works with precaching a lot of content. When i play BF on 16GB it can take 1 minute to load first time then all maps after load almost imediate. Same With Inquisition, it take, like 30 sec, to first load, then all other loads take less than 5 seconds.

 

About Windows 10 you are already using? How is that going? The game is supposed to work in Dx12? I dont think so... im looking forward what you say about running cooler, you are archieving it just by using W10?

 

Good theory, it explains why my first loading screen lasts for almost 3 minutes then the rest for almost 3 minutes. If i reload into the same area, thats "only" 20-30 seconds. I had my hard drive defraged recently like it should matter when i dont have any problem with any other game. Recommended requirements are ssd drives too beside the controller?



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Nice input Dubya. I said the same some days ago, Frostbite engine works with precaching a lot of content. When i play BF on 16GB it can take 1 minute to load first time then all maps after load almost imediate. Same With Inquisition, it take, like 30 sec, to first load, then all other loads take less than 5 seconds.

 

About Windows 10 you are already using? How is that going? The game is supposed to work in Dx12? I dont think so... im looking forward what you say about running cooler, you are archieving it just by using W10?

 

Thank you, Postem (takes a bow)

 

Yes, I am using Windows 10. I'm not sure how DX works exactly, but I am guessing there is some soft of backwards compatibility element, which allows games like DAI to run? I know people have reported that Windows 8's DX11.1 is an improvement over Windows 7's DX11, so perhaps that is what I am experiencing seeing that I upgraded from Windows 7, skipping Windows 8.

 

All I know is that the performance gain is undeniable. My GTX 970's temperature would reach into the 80s (celcius) in Windows 7, but now since I am on Windows 10, even after 3 hours of constant gaming, the temperature stays in the mid-50s. That is a MASSIVE improvement.

 

I specifically tested it in Valammar, which was the most glitchy area in the game for me under Windows 7. Now I run through it and my frames are as smooth as silk. 

 

So yeah, the game works! 

 

DA2, on the other hand would not load at all, so I uninstalled it.

DAO and Witcher 2 seems to have no problem with W10.


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The control aspect seems finished to me in the game. 

 

...and completely ****.


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Coming soon to Inquisition:

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Let the Age of the Goat begin!

Good theory, it explains why my first loading screen lasts for almost 3 minutes then the rest for almost 3 minutes. If i reload into the same area, thats "only" 20-30 seconds. I had my hard drive defraged recently like it should matter when i dont have any problem with any other game. Recommended requirements are ssd drives too beside the controller?

I think we're in agreement that spending more than necessary is ridiculous. So before you take that hard earned cash and buy that nice stuff, hear me out. This may sound crazy but bear with me. Stickers! Slapping one on the side of your chassis may help. After some pretty thorough scientific testing on my part, fire stickers are especially effective. I tried a rainbow kitten one earlier and performance dipped all the way down to 15 fps in Haven. Switched it out with a skull wreathed in flames - up to 50 fps! On main menu. That's more than a 300% performance increase. Tomorrow I'll try two stickers at once and let you guys know how it works out. It's nice when a cheap solution works for a game even if the machine already surpasses the game's recommendations.
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...and completely ****.

 

I said the same thing... It is intended to be this ****. They implemented the console gameplay on PC. The problem is not the controls, the combat system itself is a joke, of course the control itself cant be good as a consequence. Complaining about binding mouse buttons... Tip of the iceberg. Next DA should not even feature a party when it comes to combat, why bother when party tactics are not implemented and you are clickspaming controling one character? Some players play more than 500 hours using tac cam and they love it. Ah, just **** this. Seriously, **** this, i am angry. Why even bother at all when the game itself is a bad implementation of solo mmo-ing as it is with 10 ****** missions being the only thing can be called somewhat of a story. No, **** this, going to reinstall Skyrim. This game is just like almost every mmorpg came out after WoW. They just make you want to play WoW again. This one makes you want to play Skyrim.


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All the anger has got redirected here and no damage was done. All 500 pages are worthless. Wont make EA fix anything and was not seen by the unfortunate ones who bought the game.

 

I've also done word of mouth warning to potential buyers at my local Game store and at work. Caveat Emptor "If you're going to get it, it is not optimised for PC, and is best played on a new gen console, with a controller."


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Any word on ETA for patch 5 yet?


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I said the same thing... It is intended to be this ****. They implemented the console gameplay on PC. The problem is not the controls, the combat system itself is a joke, of course the control itself cant be good as a consequence. Complaining about binding mouse buttons... Tip of the iceberg. Next DA should not even feature a party when it comes to combat, why bother when party tactics are not implemented and you are clickspaming controling one character? Some players play more than 500 hours using tac cam and they love it. Ah, just **** this. Seriously, **** this, i am angry. Why even bother at all when the game itself is a bad implementation of solo mmo-ing as it is with 10 ****** missions being the only thing can be called somewhat of a story. No, **** this, going to reinstall Skyrim. This game is just like almost every mmorpg came out after WoW. They just make you want to play WoW again. This one makes you want to play Skyrim.

Still... STILL can not understand how someone who plays on the PC that uses the tackycam thinks, "Yup, this is how this should clearly work. Don't get no better". Some people really like their South Park IT bike.
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#13173
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Inquisition is not Origins or DA2. Origins was basically an isometric game that could be played with a top-down camera view without much consequence. DA2 was designed as an action-game, and was built around WASD controls, but could similarly be played in isometric view because it was set almost wholly in cramped spaces without any good sight-lines. Inquisition, however, is a true open-world game with amazing vistas, which require an over-the-shoulder camera. Without that wide view, the player loses much of the game's open world feel. I would go so far as to say that mouse-based movement should not be present in Inquisition's standard camera, if only so that players are encouraged to actually see the open world.

 

In summary: Our world is big, open, and beautiful. You will enjoy it. We will make you enjoy it. You will suffer for your enjoyment. Look on our works, ye mighty, and despair!


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Still... STILL can not understand how someone who plays on the PC that uses the tackycam thinks, "Yup, this is how this should clearly work. Don't get no better". Some people really like their South Park IT bike.

 

Yep. This is an absolutely classic example of trying to re-invent the wheel.

 

Oh but it's Frostbite 3 and it wouldn't work any other way....RUBBISH!!! All the mechanics are RIGHT ****** THERE to make it work EXACTLY like DAO!

 

So why doesn't it, you ask? 

 

Because IT WAS DESIGNED FOR CONTROLLERS. (poorly)


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Visiting this thread feels like entering Silent Hill

 

Not at all. Even in Silent Hill there was a happy ending  :ph34r:


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