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[DisturbedJim83]

Thank you for letting us know.

*incoming server crash*

Well I signed up here's hoping 

[Sartoz]

Hey Everyone,

 

Sign ups are now open for the PC Patch 5 Beta program.

Unfortunately, I have sunshine planned for me in  Costa Rica. from this weekend on.... 

 

But, hey... at least the drinks are free...

[Shelled]

now that signups are finally here, I can't help but notice how ridiculous this is that we are having beta signups for a patch for a dragon age game lol.

Anyway, I'm down with it.

[Sartoz]

NDA, for a freaking patch? Really?

 

Could also be some developer console contract(s) that BIO can't break and therefore must provide similar restrictions to sub-contractors and free beta testers.

[TobyJake]

Why do you need beta testers to implement UI features? I can see the point of beta testing for large plot changes, like Shale or Tallis or &^%$# Coryphenis but why go into this PR stunt of beta testing when there are no tactics and 8 useable slots on the toolbar?

The devil will be in the detail, but after "By PC Gamers for PC Gamers", I do not think BW can afford to put one foot wrong. It will require honesty and truth, something that has been nonexistent since 18 November 2014.

I wrote this earlier. After reading the detail there seems to be a lot of talk about EAVirtual Currency. No mention of Bioware. So this beta patch will be for MP I think. I think it is starting to smell like the Duchess in her box.

[spacefiddle]

Why thank you

Seriously tho, some people act way too much like the arrogant PC gamer stereotype with their "we have higher standards & if you disagree your obviously some console using moron" attitude

 

You will discover, as you go through life, that there are some people who act like every stereotype.  All of 'em you've ever seen.  Plus a goodly number you haven't even run across yet and probably shouldn't until you're older.  

 

However, pointing that out is almost always only done when someone is attempting to use a stereotype to justify their dismissing or belittling an entire group of people.  Almost as if they're trying to both use the stereotype to attack people while at the same time pretending they're not a bigoted person who judges based on them.

 

("You're some moron," btw.  Honestly can't tell if that was intentional.)

 

I don't think I've typed the word "stereotype" in this post enough yet.  Stereotype stereotype stereotype stereotype stereotype 

[spacefiddle]

Hey Everyone,

 

Sign ups are now open for the PC Patch 5 Beta program.

 

Awesome!  Faster than I was expecting, honestly.

[BioWareMod03]

Hi everyone. Let's try to keep it civil and stop typing profanity to avoid the word filter. Thank you.

[Elhanan]

https://swordcoast.com
 
Guys over there must be laughing at what piece of crap DA is turned into under EA.

Doubt it when 4E is in the rearview mirror....

[Bethgael]

Could also be some developer console contract(s) that BIO can't break and therefore must provide similar restrictions to sub-contractors and free beta testers.

 

That's pretty standard when dealing with anything Microsoft, yeah. Also, EA Games is notoriously "don't talk about us until we let you!" across all of their franchises.

 

Didn't bat an eyelid here--mostly because it's not just a fix patch (although there's fixes) but also a "new content" patch. I'm surprised anyone would be surprised there's an NDA.

[spacefiddle]

NDA, for a freaking patch? Really?

 

Yeah, really.  Roll with it.  

 

EA is out of its comfort zone with this, a little, I suspect.  So some caution is warranted, from their perspective.

Even if there was nothing but flowers and puppies between EA execs and customers, it would make sense.  How much more risky would it be, when things are so volatile, to have premature reviews of unfinished features, or changes that may not be permanent, or systems that need tuning?  Ouch.  Let's not do that.

 

We've asked for information, transparency, a real plan for addressing issues.  They've responded by inviting us into their office to see their work in progress.  It's not always easy for a creative person to let people they know see a work in progress.  Bioware is inviting a pile of strangers in, some of them in various stages of gruntled.

 

Now's the time to graciously accept, and knock the mud off our boots before going in so as to leave the dirt outside.  If you - anyone - has interest in the beta program, make an honest go of it by choosing to commit to the NDA, test what needs testing, participate actively on the Beta boards, focus on areas that are called for, and make the most of this opportunity to work together.

[Captain Wiseass]

I would think "closed beta" by itself would have implied that they were expecting testers to keep mum about the details. So, yeah, not really surprised that there's an NDA.

[Errationatus]

I propose a five minute moratorium on anything negative.

 

Here, watch the vid below, cheer up and avoid words like "grunties', "winkle" and "vibraphone", and by all costs avoid "wankle rotary engine". They're tricky. One never knows what might slip through the filters.

 

Hilarious Video!

[DisturbedJim83]

I would think "closed beta" by itself would have implied that they were expecting testers to keep mum about the details. So, yeah, not really surprised that there's an NDA.

Don't forget the whole "if our patch causes your system to detonate we are not liable for any damages" yada yada yada 

[DarkAmaranth1966]

All signed up, pretty standard beta agreement. Basically keep your mouth shut and don't share the beta stuff and, it it's your own fault if it totally wrecks your game and/or computer and, you won't be paid in any way for doing it. No all I can do is hope I'm accepted.

[kalikilic]

Well I signed up here's hoping 

bless you lad/lass for giving them your time. 

 

they'd have to pay me to do that. ideally that's what they were supposed to do in the first place, before releasing the game for PC.

 

hire beta testers to test the game and make sure that, even if its a console port to PC, it doesn't massively suck.

 

but, you forego one simple step in a process...

 

so i've been going through a few comments about people complaining about the game...and then ppl complaining about the people complaining.

 

lets not turn this place into a greater circus that it already is.

 

if people have problems with the game, its their right to come here and voice their concerns.

 

if people are satisfied with the game, its their right to come here and say they're satisfied (why waste your time and rub it in other's faces though. you can enjoy the game and other people cant. unless you get off from that)

 

but you see when one guy tries to start censoring the other; tries to stop them from voicing their concern, well now...that's not how society works....last time i check mankind moves in the direction of evolution. we dont de-evolve.

 

so if this bullshit argument can be stopped sometime soon, maybe we can avoid returning to the time when we hit each other with clubs on our heads yea?

 

or better yet, if you wanna dick measure, take it to PM. feel free to post your pics for each other or w/e the hell you guys want. but in dealing with a situation of this matter you can only look at the facts.

 

its a fact that people are displeased with the product that was sold to them.

its a fact that the product was advertise in specific manners to attract specific customers.

its a catergorical fact that said product failed to deliver based on what was advertise for a percentage of players. (why else would a substantial fraction of the customer base be displeased?)

its a fact that the name of this thread is "PC Community Concern."

 

If you have a genuine concern, this is the place. no genuine concern? then there's no place for you here. Go play the game if it satisfies you 100%.

 

kthanksbai.

[Glaso]

I would think "closed beta" by itself would have implied that they were expecting testers to keep mum about the details. So, yeah, not really surprised that there's an NDA.

 

Why should we keep quiet about a "mere" (at this point any patch for DAI is an event of epic proportions anyway) patch which is supposed to fix issues on an already released and paid for product?

[Bethgael]

Why should we keep quiet about a "mere" (at this point any patch for DAI is an event of epic proportions anyway) patch which is supposed to fix issues on an already released and paid for product?

 

Because of the new content.

[spacefiddle]

Why should we keep quiet about a "mere" (at this point any patch for DAI is an event of epic proportions anyway) patch which is supposed to fix issues on an already released and paid for product?

 

I'm not sure why you keep calling it a "mere patch" - in the versioning system, it will be known as Patch 5 (cue dramatic entry music).

 

But in everything BW's posted about it, the descriptions range from "rather large" to "freaking huge."  It's also clearly tied to the mentions made - I give up, I'm going to put it in my .sig - about how a lot of content they wanted to include didn't make it in before the deadline, and that they'd be adding this content into the game as they'd meant it to be all along.  In addition to that, they've mentioned things like the PC controls as specific concerns they intend to address.

 

And, instead of making these fixes in private and then we get what we get, they're asking for volunteers to be part of the process that gives them feedback on if it does, in fact, address concerns.  They're fully aware that they're opening themselves up to feedback of the... less constructive... variety, by doing this, and they're doing it anyway so's to allow the opportunity for real engagement and evaluation from those honestly trying to help.

 

Trust nothing I say, if you must, but this, this one time: roll with it.  

[Glaso]

Because of the new content.

 

Which adds up to what, black emporium and a storage chest? Color me impressed.

[Bethgael]

What the content is, is irrelevant to whether an NDA is required.

 

If you participate in Blizzard's closed betas (as opposed to their beta test realms which are open for all subscribers who don't have anything nasty on their records), you sign an NDA as well--because new content. Even for "patches" (anyone who close beta'd their upcoming 6.1 patch, for example--although that may not have happened, Blizz have their test realms down to a fine movement from playable alpha to open beta after all these years).

 

It's fairly standard.

 

It's also a good way of filtering out the people who truly want to help test, from those who just want to see the new content before anyone else and then tell everybody how much it sucks all over Facebook.

[Ncongruous]

Unfortunately, I have sunshine planned for me in Costa Rica. from this weekend on....

But, hey... at least the drinks are free...

Gruntie wankel engine to you too buddy!

All signed up, pretty standard beta agreement. Basically keep your mouth shut and don't share the beta stuff and, it it's your own fault if it totally wrecks your game and/or computer and, you won't be paid in any way for doing it. No all I can do is hope I'm accepted.

If you get in be sure to tell us all about it.

[CatatonicMan]

But in everything BW's posted about it, the descriptions range from "rather large" to "freaking huge."  It's also clearly tied to the mentions made - I give up, I'm going to put it in my .sig - about how a lot of content they wanted to include didn't make it in before the deadline, and that they'd be adding this content into the game as they'd meant it to be all along.

 

Because we should totally believe everything that Bioware says. They'd never steer us wrong. Right? Right?

 

In addition to that, they've mentioned things like the PC controls as specific concerns they intend to address.

 

The only actual information we have about the PC controls is that mouse button rebinding isn't going to be in the next patch. That's it. I'll err on the optimistic side for once and assume that means that they are, in fact, working on mouse button binding.

 

I should also note that they have never committed to addressing anything in this thread (aside from what they've already fixed). Not once. That doesn't exactly instill confidence.

 

Trust nothing I say, if you must, but this, this one time: roll with it.  

 

It's not like we have much of a choice. We take what we're given, or we leave. That's pretty much how it works. It's on Bioware to determine how much they want us to stay.

[Sartoz]

Because of the new content.

Well, Mike did say that Bioware would be supporting MP.  Following this logic, the new content would be new areas/caves/dungeons from the game.

Also, new armours and weapons for a price, of course... maybe even a dual warrior/rogue?

 

Why don't we speculate what this new content would be?

[DarkAmaranth1966]

The reason for the DND is in case things in the beta material don't work out and, have to be removed before release. Can't get everyone all hyped up for content or fixes that end up not working properly and don't get released with the Black Emporium update.

 

What if I came on her and told you that the BE sold a BiS item only available there, but then the item glitched out in game and they couldn't get it repaired in time for release? A lot of you would be pretty upset. It's assumed beta testers can handle stuff that they can't get working being removed before release. (And no that doesn't happen often but, it does happen.)