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[katokires]

BETA means not working at all? Curious because well, I have played lots of betas both open and closed and they usually worked, had bugs or lacked some features but not working at all is rare. So unless this patch is in the VERY early stages I would expect basic features lick auto-attack to work. But as long as they do not rush the patch, as long as they take their time to make it work properly, ok. Game is dead for me so it is not really waiting, it is more like, "lets see if this works" with a lot of "probably won't be half as good as announced but game can't get worse" and a fear because I thought that about DA2 and they proved me wrong with DAI. Things can always get worse.

[Lady Mutare]

Perhaps i have misread this, but a Beta? Shouldnt a Beta have been done last year way before release? Why now? It should not be called a beta..Maybe testers for huge patch..but not Beta test. 

 

And no I didn't apply because I would not sign an NDA for a patch.  Yes I have NDA on for other games I moderate, so an NDA in itself is not an issue. The issue is this is just a patch for an existing game that has been released for 3 months, and NDA for a patch is extreme and silly. If its so broken that a NDA needs to be signed, then admit the game was broken, you rushed production and bite the bullet.  Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off. Its not just my tagline, it's a way of life. Take responsibility for your actions.

[Morroian]

BETA means not working at all? Curious because well, I have played lots of betas both open and closed and they usually worked, had bugs or lacked some features but not working at all is rare. So unless this patch is in the VERY early stages I would expect basic features lick auto-attack to work. 

 

Yep, beta doesn't mean features not working it means there are bugs. If the auto attack is completely wonky, if nothing has been done for tac cam mode then it is cause for concern.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Nothing to be concerned about yet, if it isn't right, we're telling them so, and suggesting ways to correct it - that's our job - make it better for everyone.

[Harbinger1975]

OK fair enough, I just didn't quite understand where you were coming from, but now I do...

 

I'm really sorry if I sounded dismissive. That was not my intention. It must be uber frustrating to be having these issues as a result of Bioware's shoddy patching.

 

If you are using Windows 7, have you given any thought of upgrading to the Tech Preview of Windows 10 just to see if MAYBE it improves things for you?

I'm not using SLI, but since I took the plunge to Windows 10, my game performance has been better than ever. My hardware components even run cooler. 

Something to consider, perhaps?

 

I may have to try that if they are still running it.  I just wish Bioware would get with NVidia to square away the driver issue.  But I'll look for the Windows 10 Tech Preview if they are still doing it.

 

Oh, forgot to add, I am using Windows 7 64 bit.

Modifié par Harbinger1975, 20 février 2015 - 01:25 .

[DarkAmaranth1966]

An note on the DX crash, if you are getting it, try constantly moving your mouse or controller so that the curso remains visible in cutscenes. I was getting it rarely but, doing that has ended it for a week now. It might be as simple as keeping cursors visible in cutscenes, that may  be the source of the bad command.

[Elhanan]

Also using Win 7 64 bit here with no visible problems; also with GTX 670. Could the problem be with the processor?

[kalikilic]

BETA means not working at all? Curious because well, I have played lots of betas both open and closed and they usually worked, had bugs or lacked some features but not working at all is rare. So unless this patch is in the VERY early stages I would expect basic features lick auto-attack to work. But as long as they do not rush the patch, as long as they take their time to make it work properly, ok. Game is dead for me so it is not really waiting, it is more like, "lets see if this works" with a lot of "probably won't be half as good as announced but game can't get worse" and a fear because I thought that about DA2 and they proved me wrong with DAI. Things can always get worse.

indeed.

 

things can always get worse. i'm still waiting in the wings to play DA:I. glad i didnt pre-order, but i still paid for something that i'm not able to satisfactorily use whether that's by my standards, Bioware's standards, or the industry's standard. people are just making games to make money, instead of making money to make games.

 

Bioware isnt the first developer to have done this, and many developers in recent times have been flashing their greed through pish-posh watered down game products. modern day gaming i guess.

 

Thank God for Bestheda/ Skyrim and Digital Extremes Ltd./Warframe. my RPG fix and my FPS fix for more than 2 years now.

[Errationatus]

I'm sure this is nothing new to anyone anywhere, but it struck me today as I was chugging through the Emerald Graves.

 

I'm piloting my Inquisitor as I would were I in a shooter.  The controls are almost identical.  Let us look through the Inquisitor's eyes and you'd be right at home in any shooter going.  Even the left mouse button goes shooty-shoot.  EA lazy?  Precedents have been set...

 

No wonder folks who don't play a lot of shooters are uncomfortable.  I'm not really - I play a lot of shooters.  The only reason I noticed they felt wonky was that I expected them to be similar to DA2. Stupid, sure.  Hardly a revelation, I know, but just one of those things that sloshes around a brain-pan.  I'd prefer a control scheme like DA2, but I'll grow an extra bollock before that happens.

 

Also, beta-testy-folks?  If you could suggest a slightly-faster walking speed (no one walks that bloody slow! Not even casually) and a bit faster run-toward-the-battle-with-weapons-drawn speed to whomever is in charge of fixing crap, that would be supermuchofantasticogoldplatedstripperslevelawesome, since PC-ers don't get a midpoint between walk and run.

 

Couldn't hurt.

[Harbinger1975]

Also using Win 7 64 bit here with no visible problems; also with GTX 670. Could the problem be with the processor?

 I have an i7 processor.  I'm not at home right now to look at the dxdiag.

[Elhanan]

I have an i7 processor.  I'm not at home right now to look at the dxdiag.

Mine is a i7 - 3770 CPU @ 3.4 GHz, and have no issues other than other system software activating on occasions. But I am Techless, and am relatively clueless as to why systems that are similar are having varied reactions.

Best of luck finding a solution.

[Lady Mutare]

@Dark Amarath, no its not your job to Beta test a game that has been released.  Game should have been in Beta and been tested well over a year ago, not after release date.

[robertmarilyn]

Also using Win 7 64 bit here with no visible problems; also with GTX 670. Could the problem be with the processor?

 

I'm using Win 7 64-bit and haven't had problems either. 

[Brogan]

I'm piloting my Inquisitor as I would were I in a shooter.  The controls are almost identical.  Let us look through the Inquisitor's eyes and you'd be right at home in any shooter going.  Even the left mouse button goes shooty-shoot.  EA lazy?  Precedents have been set...

 

No wonder folks who don't play a lot of shooters are uncomfortable.  I'm not really - I play a lot of shooters.

 

OK, last shooter that had no remapping LMB or RMB and not able to utilize thumb and scroll buttons?

 

A go-cart with no brake pedal or no steering wheel is not identical to a car.

 

That said (and hopefully they figure out soon where they left that very thin pamphlet from DICE explaining how to enable this basic feature for Frostbite3), I have also played many shooters and I agree with your observation.  That is how I accepted I'd have to play DAI back in Sept when I realized they lied to us about there being mouse navigation with RMB+LMB.

 

I wasn't happy about it then either, even though the often forgotten fact is, you could have played DA2 and Origins exactly that way if you wanted to (and some did - there is even a member on here who didn't know LMB+RMB existed in past games).  There was always that freedom of choice because of how well they designed the UI.

 

But Bioware removed that choice without telling the PC community.  They lied by omission all summer and fall.  They even had a Dev come on and state that Yes, mouse nav was in (that Dev never posted again AFAIK).  And many pre-orders remained firmly in place because of this little omission (and clearly quite a few more re: the PC UI)

 

So yes, playing DAI as if it were a shooter (in theory) is the only choice non-controller users have now.  There's no alternative for us.  Veterans who have lost limbs or citizens with injuries/conditions are in even worse boats.  They went from 2 choices to zero.

 

But hey, Bio/EA got that pre-order money, though.

[FOE]

Brogan - You're so right.  The controls and UI were not thought out for the game on the PC.  It's NOT intuitive.  I could only muster 2 hours in and I realized that my gaming experience would have to change.  I'd have to purchase a gaming controller and dumb down my expectations.  Hopefully this game can be salvaged.  As it is?  It's a console first person shooter with 3 reluctant party members who can't take direction.  Expect a lot of friendly fire and frustration.

[CatatonicMan]

People are worrying about Non Disclosure Agreements.  That's past the boards.  Did Booware/EA worry about our own customer disclosure agreement?  Give us the game that you promised.  We paid good money. Plus, they share all of our info everywhere....we need to keep them on point.  It's fraud, and they're (obviously) scrambling, but in that, they are apparently trying to improve the game,,,,it's just so lame and ham-fisted, but apparently they are trying.  What a ridiculous mess.

 

I'm worried that a violation of the NDA would cause the violating player legal problems. That would really suck all around.

[FOE]

There's no way THAT would hold up in court, if we have have to take them to task.  I'd just ask our relatively loosed-lip bloggers here to put a sock in it, proverbially.

[FOE]

I think that it's just a matter of US trying to get information to one another - and that's not a problem IF an individual has signed an NDA.,,,but it's still a bit dodgy - the company has NO legal ground to stand on HERE.

[FOE]

Look, THEY realized how badly this game was borked, and they asked US for direction/feedback.  They're not going to go after someone for leaking anything here.  They would just disallow/disavow that person from participating in any further tests, and maybe they would be censored here, and maybe suspended.  I've been suspended for weeks....and do you see me now?  I'm back and fighting for player's rights.  It's not a big deal that an excited blogger says something about a game.  Our lives are far more richer.  Let's see a big conglomerate company such as Electronic Arts, sue an individual.  I'd love to see how that works out.

[FOE]

Also. we're NOT leaking information.  From what I've read on these forums, I've garnered certain info about what they are trying to test as PC specific features and I'm all for that.  I'd never try to derail that.  I get that they can't divulge information about what they're trying to fix...BUT WAIT!  WE should know. Tell US what you're working on. Keep trying to patch/fix and make this game as playable as possible for ME.  I'm selfish.  I'm also very generous.

[Randomguy]

Does Bioware have community managers? Why has not a single official from bioware answered a single question here? Im worried about ME4. 3 Months and they still dont understand the source of all this hate. At least that is what i pick up from your announcements which are the only way you communicate.

 

And Jesus ****** Christ just make autoattack button bindable to left mouse button and make the character run to the target and keep attacking! Console gamers and PC gamers have different demands, of course you will get this toxic **** if you dont communicate with your customers properly. Conal announces when a patch is already out, thats it. Come on!

[FOE]

F'ing right - good post, "Randomguy".  - Conal said a few promising things, but they are window service.  It's delay tactics if you ask me.  Yet another week that we don't have to do anything.  Next we'll hear about a vote for a public vote upon which specific "bug" that we want fixed.  THAT could get us all arguing for another week. and where will we be?

[Xyxlplic]

@Dark Amarath, no its not your job to Beta test a game that has been released.  Game should have been in Beta and been tested well over a year ago, not after release date.

They are not Beta testing the released game. They are Beta testing unreleased content and features. Why is this such a difficult concept for some people to get their heads around?

[Xyxlplic]

There's no way THAT would hold up in court, if we have have to take them to task.

Um... yes. Yes it would.