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[Ashen Nedra]

I would like to non-hostilely remind everyone that EA and its operatives do not like the word 'lie' nor allusions that it or any of its representatives engage in active falsehoods.

 

To continue in a non-threatening and completely calm manner, we've been warned before about that as it borders on the litigious - and definitely bannable - side of things.

 

Allow me, in full control of my faculties and extending a positive aura of peace and tranquility to all of you to state in the most placid terms possible that EA did not lie about DA:I.  It's 'marketing may have contained errors not realized after release'. 

 

May I so inform you, cascading a beam of radiating amity and accord from all my rested and tranquil orifices that you were not misled, you were 'perceptually repositioned' to 'enable actualization of a new gaming paradigm.'

 

Exuding and extruding all my love and massive tumescent-ness to all present, I must also add that just as using the term 'EAWare' or stating 'BioWare' no longer exists or functions as its own entity is both offensive to devs and corporate, you will all please refer to it as an 'active independent ancillary', even if it does defer to all corporate, design, feature incorporation and marketing decisions made by EA regardless of usefulness or 'potential brand quality deflection'.

 

As I conclude, gazing with deep reverence at the various protrusions, projections and odd but satisfactory curvatures of various appendages of our male and female members - in the most non-aggressive way, of course - let me just say, that all video, printed and external evidence, both by outside sources and in the product itself ('game') that definitively proves that EA and its representatives did in fact lie - or 'engage in creative factual repositioning' should be from now on referred to as 'optional strategic verbiage rebranding' to 'suit the variable malleable perceptual acuity of potential external impulse-driven financial repositories'.

 

I am so Zen now that Zen itself appears to me as chaos personified, as if I sit now in a cosmically-warm hottub of serenity.  Come join me, O Angry Ones. 

 

Please Don't Harsh The Buzz.

All Hats off,  Errationatus, Sir...

 

Since Bethgael is busy testing in kangaroo land, allow me to offer you this feline token of appreciation in hope of brightening your day

 

  http://gph.is/Z0oFSb

 

Sir, you are as of now - for a humble English-as-a-second-language speaker such as I -  a model and literary inspiration to follow.

 

Please, do continue to exude away your new-found Zenness by any and all orifices you may choose to prioritize on any given day.

Modifié par Ashen Nedra, 24 février 2015 - 03:38 .

[Randomguy]

Im sure this Josh Stikma is very talented. But just stay the **** away from PC games!

[Wbino]

Josh Stiksma should be barred from any further DA ....anything....

[Dubya75]

Im sure this Josh Stikma is very talented. But just stay the **** away from PC games!

 

Mmmmm, wonder if he can explain Tac Cam to us....

[Randomguy]

Josh Stiksma should be barred from any further DA ....anything....

 

You can probably say this to any of the developers at Bioware, its just he is the one of the unfortunate ones alongside with laidlaw and darrah who put his face out in the open. New Bioware, stick to consoles!

[Dubya75]

I quietly extend soft apologies in the most passive way possible to you, Dubya75 for any confusion or 'misaligned perceptual cerebral incorporation' you may be currently suffering.  As we know, suffering leads to beta-testing DLC, which leads to disappointment and loss of tranquility and mental stability. 

 

Please refer any questions to EAnswers, where if you're very nice, someone might help you.  Eventually.

 

Twitch...twitch....

[Jirec]

What a load of utter **** this is.

You talk as if this was a relationship between developer and customer that devolved and degraded over time into the current state. There never was a relationship. EA and Bioware made that choice perfectly clear to all of us from Day 1. They put us squarely in this position by starting a pc feedback thread then never actually utilizing it.

'Didn't want to make us angry on purpose', .... So Lying and scamming customers for pre-order money was done, what.... to foster our love of bartering and good business strategies?

 

 

LMAO, @Jirec, you clearly have no concept...(totally agree with Brogan on this)

 

But you sure got one thing right: Bioware only looked at things "on paper", overlooking (or forgetting, I guess they were tired awwww) to ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME ON PC to see if it is up to the minimal standard required by PC gamers in this day and age, comparative to other games in the genre.

 

They happily marketed the PC version of the game which, BY DEFINITION means that a Keyboard & Mouse will be the preferred control surface for 90% of people buying the game on PC.

 

But what you are saying is that Bioware thought we would be really happy with the COMPLETE OMISSION of mouse button mappings for gaming mice, poorly implemented and incomplete keybindings and a Console UI? Why would anyone who has played PC games in the last 5 years be happy with that? 

 

This games was NOT TESTED with Keyboard & Mouse.

 

And Bioware knew EXACTLY what they were doing: It is their INTENTION to alienate PC gamers for whatever reason.

If it wasn't, then we would not be having this 568 page discussion called "PC Community Concerns".

 

This kind of thing did not exist after the release of DAO, neither for DA2.

 

Think about that!

 

That's not the point I was making!

 

Clearly the communication has been cut off, who's to blame? Both parties, if any. But I'm not trying to throw blame on you or anything, all that I'm saying there's much more behind it all than you can possibly know. You have to be in their shoes to truly see how it is, hell even I need so too... Because I don't know for certain and neither do you. You can't really take their words and/or minds and twist it in a way that they'd seem they're to hurt you personally, they're not out to get you! Why would they? They'd want people to love their work they've put years in (not saying you shouldn't come with negative feedback and that we should all praise them blindly instead... ).

 

They never lied to any of us in a sense, as what they said with things like "By PC gamers for PC gamers", that's just an opinion, not a lie. That's you who's twisting it into a lie. They believed they were on right enough track as they could get by the time they had...! I'm pretty sure they regret some of the decisions they made or couldn't make in time, as something you make are never really done... I'm that way too with stuff I make (not saying all of them are though, but it's very common).

 

That's one reason deadlines also exists, to get to the goal, and it'll most likely come out in some disappointments, like we see here. But things can change and they're trying to please us now (better late than never, no?), I'm sure glad they've seen and I'm hopeful that it'll come true. Will I get mad if it doesn't? No, maybe a bit frustrated. But I wouldn't want to attack the developers, telling them they're stupid, in what they believe is right for the game...

 

I still do agree on these PC disappointments with you! But my point is that there's never a good reason to bash and blame someone that you got mad about at a said thing they did with their own product (unless, I guess it'd poison your body)! Nothing good will come from it. Buying something is always a gamble, it can be broke, it can be the best thing ever, you just can't know for certain if it's something you'll like (neither can those who made it). But please, do still come with negative feedback and what not, just no trash talk!

[Solo80]

Wow, this thread is moving farther and farther away from its original intent for every post made.

 

I'm not sure what people expect to accomplish by making this into an "anti-Bioware"-thread, but I'm fairly certain it's not going to help with the issues at hand.

 

Then again, the 150ish contributors to this thread don't exactly make up the majority of Bioware's customer base. Or even the majority of their PC customer base.

 

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

 

And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

[Dubya75]

That's not the point I was making!

 

Clearly the communication has been cut off, who's to blame? Both parties, if any. But I'm not trying to throw blame on you or anything, all that I'm saying there's much more behind it all than you can possibly know. You have to be in their shoes to truly see how it is, hell even I need so too... Because I don't know for certain and neither do you. You can't really take their words and/or minds and twist it in a way that they'd seem they're to hurt you personally, they're not out to get you! Why would they? They'd want people to love their work they've put years in (not saying you shouldn't come with negative feedback and that we should all praise them blindly instead... ).

 

They never lied to any of us in a sense, as what they said with things like "By PC gamers for PC gamers", that's just an opinion, not a lie. That's you who's twisting it into a lie. They believed they were on right enough track as they could get by the time they had...! I'm pretty sure they regret some of the decisions they made or couldn't make in time, as something you make are never really done... I'm that way too with stuff I make (not saying all of them are though, but it's very common).

 

That's one reason deadlines also exists, to get to the goal, and it'll most likely come out in some disappointments, like we see here. But things can change and they're trying to please us now (better late than never, no?), I'm sure glad they've seen and I'm hopeful that it'll come true. Will I get mad if it doesn't? No, maybe a bit frustrated. But I wouldn't want to attack the developers, telling them they're stupid, in what they believe is right for the game...

 

I still do agree on these PC disappointments with you! But my point is that there's never a good reason to bash and blame someone that you got mad about at a said thing they did with their own product (unless, I guess it'd poison your body)! Nothing good will come from it. Buying something is always a gamble, it can be broke, it can be the best thing ever, you just can't know for certain if it's something you'll like (neither can those who made it). But please, do still come with negative feedback and what not, just no trash talk!

 

Wait....

 

 

...Nevermind

[Brogan]

I would like to non-hostilely remind everyone that EA and its operatives do not like the word 'lie' nor allusions that it or any of its representatives engage in active falsehoods.

 

To continue in a non-threatening and completely calm manner, we've been warned before about that as it borders on the litigious - and definitely bannable - side of things.

 

Allow me, in full control of my faculties and extending a positive aura of peace and tranquility to all of you to state in the most placid terms possible that EA did not lie about DA:I.  It's 'marketing may have contained errors not realized after release'. 

 

May I so inform you, cascading a beam of radiating amity and accord from all my rested and tranquil orifices that you were not misled, you were 'perceptually repositioned' to 'enable actualization of a new gaming paradigm.'

 

Exuding and extruding all my love and massive tumescent-ness to all present, I must also add that just as using the term 'EAWare' or stating 'BioWare' no longer exists or functions as its own entity is both offensive to devs and corporate, you will all please refer to it as an 'active independent ancillary', even if it does defer to all corporate, design, feature incorporation and marketing decisions made by EA regardless of usefulness or 'potential brand quality deflection'.

 

As I conclude, gazing with deep reverence at the various protrusions, projections and odd but satisfactory curvatures of various appendages of our male and female members - in the most non-aggressive way, of course - let me just say, that all video, printed and external evidence, both by outside sources and in the product itself ('game') that definitively proves that EA and its representatives did in fact lie - or 'engage in creative factual repositioning' should be from now on referred to as 'optional strategic verbiage rebranding' to 'suit the variable malleable perceptual acuity of potential external impulse-driven financial repositories'.

 

I am so Zen now that Zen itself appears to me as chaos personified, as if I sit now in a cosmically-warm hottub of serenity.  Come join me, O Angry Ones. 

 

Please Don't Harsh The Buzz.

 

Well put... 

 

However....   and I do not speak for anyone in this thread but myself ...  you can be DAMN WELL SURE that my impulse-driven financial repositories would have remained intact and untapped .... HAD THEY NOT LIED TO ME IN THE PRE-RELEASE VIDEO!

[KilrB]

I would like to non-hostilely remind everyone that EA and its operatives do not like the word 'lie' nor allusions that it or any of its representatives engage in active falsehoods.

 

To continue in a non-threatening and completely calm manner, we've been warned before about that as it borders on the litigious - and definitely bannable - side of things.

 

Allow me, in full control of my faculties and extending a positive aura of peace and tranquility to all of you to state in the most placid terms possible that EA did not lie about DA:I.  It's 'marketing may have contained errors not realized after release'. 

 

May I so inform you, cascading a beam of radiating amity and accord from all my rested and tranquil orifices that you were not misled, you were 'perceptually repositioned' to 'enable actualization of a new gaming paradigm.'

 

Exuding and extruding all my love and massive tumescent-ness to all present, I must also add that just as using the term 'EAWare' or stating 'BioWare' no longer exists or functions as its own entity is both offensive to devs and corporate, you will all please refer to it as an 'active independent ancillary', even if it does defer to all corporate, design, feature incorporation and marketing decisions made by EA regardless of usefulness or 'potential brand quality deflection'.

 

As I conclude, gazing with deep reverence at the various protrusions, projections and odd but satisfactory curvatures of various appendages of our male and female members - in the most non-aggressive way, of course - let me just say, that all video, printed and external evidence, both by outside sources and in the product itself ('game') that definitively proves that EA and its representatives did in fact lie - or 'engage in creative factual repositioning' should be from now on referred to as 'optional strategic verbiage rebranding' to 'suit the variable malleable perceptual acuity of potential external impulse-driven financial repositories'.

 

I am so Zen now that Zen itself appears to me as chaos personified, as if I sit now in a cosmically-warm hottub of serenity.  Come join me, O Angry Ones. 

 

Please Don't Harsh The Buzz.

 

Amen Brother E!

[Shelled]

Notice how whenever the devs test the gameplay they are working on, they pick up a controller...

 

I want to kick myself for not having noticed that back in 2013!

how can that guy be the senior gameplay designer... hes like 12 years old lmao. Not even this guys beard is capable of fully growing properly yet.

[Brogan]

 - buy a controller.

 

How about you buy it for me.  And when you send it, don't forget to include your return address on it, so I can send you back something in thanks.

[katokires]

X1 Controller Age: Schizition

[Jirec]

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

 

And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

 

I did get the chance to test out the game with a controller before it came out, I do agree it felt a lot better with it than what it does with keyboard & mouse now when I have it. Though I still would prefer to play with keyboard & mouse, so I hope it'll get fixed for it. But I must admit, the idea had crossed my mind...

[Elhanan]

Wow, this thread is moving farther and farther away from its original intent for every post made.
 
I'm not sure what people expect to accomplish by making this into an "anti-Bioware"-thread, but I'm fairly certain it's not going to help with the issues at hand.
 
Then again, the 150ish contributors to this thread don't exactly make up the majority of Bioware's customer base. Or even the majority of their PC customer base.
 
For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.
 
And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

Personally am fine with my basic KB&M set-up currently, and will upgrade to a gaming mouse when that patch arrives. But am unable, or very unlikely to be able to use a controller; avoid games when they are officially recommended.

[Shelled]

Wow, this thread is moving farther and farther away from its original intent for every post made.

 

I'm not sure what people expect to accomplish by making this into an "anti-Bioware"-thread, but I'm fairly certain it's not going to help with the issues at hand.

 

Then again, the 150ish contributors to this thread don't exactly make up the majority of Bioware's customer base. Or even the majority of their PC customer base.

 

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

 

And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

Put your controller sympathy away please. Keyboard and mouse is vastly superior, its one of the reasons we prefer to play on PC. Go win a starcraft 2 tournament with a controller if you think its even remotely capable of competing against that level of superior controls. 

The only single thing a controller has that a keyboard and mouse doesn't is a rumble effect and that would F my sensitive 2800 DPI speed that I use for my mouse anyway, assuming they ever try to make a rumble mouse lmao you wouldn't be able to even control it if it had rumble. That's the difference between your crappy controller and my keyboard/mouse. Not to mention the auto-targeting helper that a controller has, almost puking all over myself just thinking about it.

[Dubya75]

Wow, this thread is moving farther and farther away from its original intent for every post made.

 

I'm not sure what people expect to accomplish by making this into an "anti-Bioware"-thread, but I'm fairly certain it's not going to help with the issues at hand.

 

Then again, the 150ish contributors to this thread don't exactly make up the majority of Bioware's customer base. Or even the majority of their PC customer base.

 

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

 

And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

 

You can't possibly provide THAT as a solution....unless you are a console gamer. Yes, that would explain it.

 

So let me be very clear about this because it seems you and a few others have quite a bit of difficulty grasping the concept:

 

I could have bought the game for PS4, sure.

 

Heck, I could even have bought it for XBOX1. 

 

But after careful consideration, I ended up buying it for PC. You wanna know why?

 

Because I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME ON PC USING KB&M! JUST LIKE I DID WITH DAO AND DA2 if that is OK with you?

 

I spent a small fortune on PC hardware because I wanted the BEST POSSIBLE EXPERIENCE with this game. 

 

I got my game cover right here - It says it is the PC VERSION. You know what that means?

 

IT IS A ****** PC GAME! You know...the kind people play on their PC using KEYBOARD AND MOUSE! And yes, I even have a special GAMING MOUSE!

 

And YES, in my desperate attempt to enjoy the game, I did plug in my controller. IT ****** SUCKS PLAYING THIS GAME WITH A CONTROLLER!

 

So don't you come here all ****** smug and tell people to buy a goddamn controller! 

 

YOU ARE THE ONE TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP HATING BIOWARE AND IN THE SAME POST YOU POUR FUEL ON THE FIRE, ANTAGONISING PEOPLE AND ENFORCING OUR ANGER EVEN MORE!!! 

[CatatonicMan]

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller.

That would certainly solve the problem, in the same way that surrender "solves" a war.

"Stop caring. Lower you standards. Don't question what you're given. Accept mediocrity." Are these really the qualities we should be aiming for?

[Errationatus]

Well put... 

 

However....   and I do not speak for anyone in this thread but myself ...  you can be DAMN WELL SURE that my impulse-driven financial repositories would have remained intact and untapped .... HAD THEY NOT LIED TO ME IN THE PRE-RELEASE VIDEO!

 

Now, now, Non-gender-specific appellation Brogan, it was NOT "lied" - it was...  uh...  'preferred kipping on its back'...?

 

No, wait...  

 

"pining for the fjords"...!

 

No...  ah! 

 

"Beautiful plumage!" 

 

Yes, that was it.

[JPR1964]

Wow, this thread is moving farther and farther away from its original intent for every post made.

 

I'm not sure what people expect to accomplish by making this into an "anti-Bioware"-thread, but I'm fairly certain it's not going to help with the issues at hand.

 

Then again, the 150ish contributors to this thread don't exactly make up the majority of Bioware's customer base. Or even the majority of their PC customer base.

 

For the few remaining followers of this thread who are more interested in solutions than attacking Bioware, do what I did (for Darksiders II, actually) - buy a controller. It'll expand your potential game library, it's comfortable to use, and you'll be able to enjoy what is widely regarded as the best game of 2014 in the way it was meant to be enjoyed.

 

And, contrary to popular belief, buying a controller will neither instantly turn you into a Call of Duty-loving 14-year-old with bad skin, nor turn your PC into a console. The power of the PC lies in its flexibility - the fact that we have every option the console peasants have (including playing with a controller), plus a whole helluva lot more.

 

If I understad well what you're saying, is that I MUST buy a xbox360 controler or adapter to play comfortably THIS PC Game?

 

Or install third party software to play it with a PS3 controler and get fucked by the button?

 

Ok...

 

JPR out!

[Jirec]

 

You keep breaking it all down to a bit and take it out and enlarge it. Yes, I said I was disappointed too, I even said earlier that DA:O is my favourite game of all time. I'm not disconnected, I know what you feel, I feel so too. It's just that... Why the anger?

 

I'm just saying getting mad and attacking them about it doesn't help at all!

 

Also that no matter what you think is right, there's also an other side of the coin that thinks their side is right too.

Modifié par BioWareMod03, 24 février 2015 - 04:46 .

[DavianBurke]

Shelled, 

I've been on the technical support side of the forum, and in other threads in which appearance customization is a much demanded issue on all platforms, not PC specific. 

I think I was quite nice in explaining that while I agree there are other issues affecting many more gamers and I hope EAWare addresses them, your claim that the Emporium is useless is only true when you qualify the statement by including the caveat that it is useless for you. 

 

I'm sorry the game you bought sucks. Mine does too. Same experience, different cause. Refusing to acknowledge that other people have other issues just because you're bent that they may be fixed before yours is rather discourteous to the mini-community of fellow sufferers we have.