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Jackal Solo pulls out of hyperspace to see what's new on this side of the galaxy. "Hmmm, still not fixed", he thought to himself, flying past the broken ship with the signs everywhere exclaiming "Help us fix this game, join the beta testing, don't let EA leave this game in this sorry state!"

 

He notices the four Jedi inspecting every aspect of the broken down ship, "You guys are still at it?" he asks, "I'm having a much better time on the CA sector with the brand new Attila Total War, which isn't broken for once, and it's tailored to M+KB!"

 

However, after releasing the zeal of the Jedi to get the DAI ship operational, he shakes his head and goes back to hyperspace, murmuring to himself as he leaves, "Bioware has one passionate fanbase, I hope they realise it"

 

Hah, I was about to add that Cyan forgot the lost Jedi, Shelled, Dubya75, and yourself. 

 

The "outlaw Jedi", as it were...

 

Whose rage and fanaticism have driven them far away from the order, away from the depressing and futile mechanization of those left searching, away from tyrannical rule of the Dark Lord and his minions...

 

but not too far away...


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#14577
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I feel as though I am a defector, a former Imperial Soldier that has been disillusioned. Fell for the propaganda. Bought into the system. And was let down hard. 

 

I live in Edmonton. I have had brushes with BioWare. Their old offices were located across the street from the pub I worked at through university. Their launch parties were often held there. I have friends that have worked for BioWare Edmonton. Very neat seeing their names in the credits. 

I remember how much fun it was, having the opportunity to meet some of the staff, the voice actor director (whose name I cannot remember but she was really nice). I remember meeting Khalisa al-Jalani and thinking "she's nice! I don't want to punch her anymore!" 

 

Mark Meer was charming, enjoying being in the height of the moment. And then there was Casey Hudson. I met the man. Thanked him and his team for spending their hours putting together something that gave us so much joy. Literally the best trilogy I had played up until that point. I personally prefer fantasy over sci-fi but have always personally preferred ME to DA, likely due to the fact that the player is the same character all the way through. He shook my hand, thanked me. I remember coming out of that thinking highly of him, never knowing that a few weeks before he co-opted the ending, shutting out all but the head writer and crafting his own pos ending. 

They even gifted me a huge poster of the ME3 box cover, male Sheperd, that I put on the wall behind my monitors while I played. Then that ending. Ugh. 

Now, DA2 had the recycled layouts. Other than that, and some areas re: equipment, I liked the game a lot. The story was great imo. 

So I believed. In DA:I. I really did. How could I not? I figured the sure thing was a solid story/narrative. DA was also more RPG by far than ME so I was looking forward to that experience. And they hammered the concept of leadership, choices, consequences, visible changes wrought upon the world as a result of your actions. And while these were present, they were in the most minimal of ways to be considered not an untruth. 

Faith... does not seem to be rewarded. Not under this new Empire. 


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Yes thank god Inquisition doesn't give us the wealth of control or tactics of Origins.

 

One would think from your snide comment that I myself have not experienced the combat and am capable of weighing the good and bad. This wealth you speak of is overshadowed by clunky mechanics, floaty combat, silly kill moves and flaky tactics. In my opinion of course. I suppose I'm allowed to have one? In Inquisitions case, less is more.



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One would think from your snide comment that I myself have not experienced the combat and am capable of weighing the good and bad. This wealth you speak of is overshadowed by clunky mechanics, floaty combat, silly kill moves and flaky tactics. In my opinion of course. I suppose I'm allowed to have one? In Inquisitions case, less is more.

 

Instant pause & play > delayed pause & play.

 

More overview over the map/battlefield > less.

 

Multiple selectable partymembers > only one selectable.

 

Free flowing mousecursor > stuck to the ground cursor.

 

Optimized PC-UI > ported console UI ...

 

... the list goes on.

 

I take a few clunky mechanics and "floaty" combat for those listed above any day.


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#14580
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Nvidia driver 347.71 does nothing to improve fog whiteout or texture flickering :-( for me at least...

 

My advice: ignore posts from the BioWere shills and from the IQ challenged fanboys... who do the same work just without getting paid...

 

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When i first played DAI the layout of the k+m felt really strange (still do) , i did some key binding after i checked DAO. I did't now it was somewat the same layout but nevertheless i was disappointed. Still slaching true air with my melee now forced to play ranged on nightmaremode,  can't zoom out enough in action-cam and tac-cam, pressing R for attack V for search ? When in pause mode  issued orders that don't get followed true, move mouse cursor to edge of screen to have overview of the battlefield.  I'm a tactical player i plan my moves ahead to get advantage over my enemy across the battlefield especially on nightmaremode. In DAO you get tactics and  advanced tactics via mods and some rules to choose from, player stats for you to spend (not automatic), this is not some brainbreaker stuff just simple things. I don't understand why change this ? why invent the wheel again ? why fix stuff that is not broken ? I now different engine different rules. But for tactical players like myself somethings are a must. At least increase the zoom level for more overview of the battlefield, yes i know of CE, don't use it anymore. This is my first post ever in a forum, i felt my voice to be heard. by the way english not my native language so be nice.. :D


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#14582
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Hah, I was about to add that Cyan forgot the lost Jedi, Shelled, Dubya75, and yourself. 

 

The "outlaw Jedi", as it were...

 

Whose rage and fanaticism have driven them far away from the order, away from the depressing and futile mechanization of those left searching, away from tyrannical rule of the Dark Lord and his minions...

 

but not too far away...

They haven't been forgotten. They're the cleanup crew. You'll see...


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#14583
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I really hope they fix things in the months to come, it doesn't have to be perfect, but still.... Alot of players here still can't play the game including myself. The otherday when i was in the hinterlands the tac-cam got stuck inside a cabin could not move at all. i was destroyed in seconds, now thats some weird s***. lol. I really did my best to get along with the bad controls and bad AI, but i leave it for now as it is. Hope patch 5 and 6 will get some improvements. I tried  play with controller but that felt even worse, everything felt so slow and could't get into it. I'll wait and see


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People are starting to remember DA2 for something it was not.. It wasnt only the recycled maps, the terrible cartoon graphics, the para-mobs.. It also had no equipment for followers, lost weapon swapping, Some of the magic, dual wield warrior (which DAI further ruined), comp[letely changed the way Darkspawn look, Anders looked, Flemeth, etc..Has only single over priced dlc, no bundle.. Many people never expereiened the dlc for this reason.. You pay 10-20$ for the game, and atleast $30 more for DLC..

 

But atleast the story, and companions felt like Bioware?

 

The game was terrible then, and it is now.. Its just far less bad, when compared to Inquisition!


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People are starting to remember DA2 for something it was not.. It wasnt only the recycled maps, the terrible cartoon graphics, the para-mobs.. It also had no equipment for followers, lost weapon swapping, Some of the magic, dual wield warrior (which DAI further ruined), comp[letely changed the way Darkspawn look, Anders looked, Flemeth, etc..Has only single over priced dlc, no bundle.. Many people never expereiened the dlc for this reason.. You pay 10-20$ for the game, and atleast $30 more for DLC..

 

But atleast the story, and companions felt like Bioware?

 

The game was terrible then, and it is now.. Its just far less bad, when compared to Inquisition!

 

To be frank, I enjoyed Legacy and Mark of the Assassin DLCs more than the DA2 itself.


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People are starting to remember DA2 for something it was not.. It wasnt only the recycled maps, the terrible cartoon graphics, the para-mobs.. It also had no equipment for followers, lost weapon swapping, Some of the magic, dual wield warrior (which DAI further ruined), comp[letely changed the way Darkspawn look, Anders looked, Flemeth, etc..Has only single over priced dlc, no bundle.. Many people never expereiened the dlc for this reason.. You pay 10-20$ for the game, and atleast $30 more for DLC..

 

But atleast the story, and companions felt like Bioware?

 

The game was terrible then, and it is now.. Its just far less bad, when compared to Inquisition!

Ah, nostalgia. 

 

IMO, our starry-eyed remembrances makes us forget the clunky crap rife in Origins; that slow, painfully tedious combat, terrible lighting and horrible character models and anims, those gangly clothed and cringe-inducing sexytimes, Morrigan's infantile 'seduction' voice,and Leliana's fishy-air-gulping singing style.  Because of the laziness of DA2, we forget solid stand-out characters like Aveline and Isabella (two of the best female characters in games, easily - in a lot of movies and TV, too) and even Merrill had her moments. and the decent character development didn't hurt.  The combat was certainly the best of this franchise. Frankly, that's all EA had going for it with either franchise - DA and ME - the characters and their stories, although none of them were particularly original. Inquisition's only saving grace is that it's at least pretty - when it works at all.  If you play either franchise for the character and story, you don't tend to care about glitches or clunky combat until it interferes with story time.  If you expect scintillating action-packed gameplay... well, none of these games have had that.  Call of Duty has had more legit tense moments gameplay-wise than any "BioWare" game (and a storyline that spans four games - and is actually pretty good - not that anyone notices).

 

The biggest complaint I saw concerning ME3's end - other than it being stupid and negating everything that led up to it, was how it betrayed the characters, and made them look ridiculous.  The characters - which frankly is, I think, all most people play these games for - 'cause it can't be the combat - that's always sucked.  DA:I being sequel and DLC-bait doesn't help its credibility, either. Your Inquisitor got you there, but he had no epic battles doing it (dragons don't count.  They had nothing to do with the storyline) and the ending was there as more of a "one down!" kinda thing.

 

To make a long story longer, judge the games without the nostalgia.  Without the nostalgia, they're all as disappointing as hell.


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I just got to thinking something guys.  And I JUST realized it after I read a few posts.  Everyone is saying that The Witcher 3 is going to be out in a few months.  Ok.  Does it seem strange to anyone else that Bioware/EA are stringing these patches out longer than they should.  Just putting in bare bones stuff?

 

I'm not trying to go all "conspiracy theory" here, but has anyone else considered the they MIGHT be doing this because they hope that most of us that have bitched, whined and complained about DAI will just disappear to TW3?  So that they, Bioware/EA can claim that:  "Oh, we tried to fix the PC version but we just couldn't get it to work. Oh well.  It worked on the next gen consoles!  SEE?!"  Basically, as I said, ending the support for the PC version of the game.

 

Like I said, everything seems to be to coincidental.  And it may be nothing.  But....*looks at posts*...there's a pattern guys.


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I just got to thinking something guys.  And I JUST realized it after I read a few posts.  Everyone is saying that The Witcher 3 is going to be out in a few months.  Ok.  Does it seem strange to anyone else that Bioware/EA are stringing these patches out longer than they should.  Just putting in bare bones stuff?

 

I'm not trying to go all "conspiracy theory" here, but has anyone else considered the they MIGHT be doing this because they hope that most of us that have bitched, whined and complained about DAI will just disappear to TW3?  So that they, Bioware/EA can claim that:  "Oh, we tried to fix the PC version but we just couldn't get it to work. Oh well.  It worked on the next gen consoles!  SEE?!"  Basically, as I said, ending the support for the PC version of the game.

 

Like I said, everything seems to be to coincidental.  And it may be nothing.  But....*looks at posts*...there's a pattern guys.

 

Im going back to play CS:GO and WoW, at least the gameplay is good there and i will certainly take a look at W3 player reviews, in particular with regard to metacritic if its the real thing something Inquisition could have been or another legendary fail. All they do with these patches are cosmetic. Dont make me laugh with an autoattack toggle. Its the weirdest **** they could come up with. You either click on the enemy and you run to the target automatically and attack or manually spam your sword swings as it works now very poorly i have to add.It's that simple... After all these months they want to push that into my face? Pathetic, I am done with these console game deveopers, regardless of this is their fault or EA's. What does it matter in the end? I was buying a new headset today and saw xboxo controller in the store. I was thinking, thank god i didnt buy one of those back in december to play this travesty.


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#14589
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I just got to thinking something guys. And I JUST realized it after I read a few posts. Everyone is saying that The Witcher 3 is going to be out in a few months. Ok. Does it seem strange to anyone else that Bioware/EA are stringing these patches out longer than they should. Just putting in bare bones stuff?

I'm not trying to go all "conspiracy theory" here, but has anyone else considered the they MIGHT be doing this because they hope that most of us that have bitched, whined and complained about DAI will just disappear to TW3? So that they, Bioware/EA can claim that: "Oh, we tried to fix the PC version but we just couldn't get it to work. Oh well. It worked on the next gen consoles! SEE?!" Basically, as I said, ending the support for the PC version of the game.

Like I said, everything seems to be to coincidental. And it may be nothing. But....*looks at posts*...there's a pattern guys.

I would hope there are ad executives at EA smart enough to recognize the bad press that is just over the horizon if and when W3 turns out to be as good as it looks to be.

'This is what we wanted from Dragon Age Inquisition!', claim many PC gamers regarding the CDPR RPG.
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I would hope there are ad executives at EA smart enough to recognize the bad press that is just over the horizon if and when W3 turns out to be as good as it looks to be.

'This is what we wanted from Dragon Age Inquisition!', claim many PC gamers regarding the CDPR RPG.

Exactly. If I was in a marketing campaign against Bioware I would simply send out copies of the games to reviewers with the note attached, "Remember how you got all happy about Inquisition? Well, this is everything that Inquisition should've been..."


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I would hope there are ad executives at EA smart enough to recognize the bad press that is just over the horizon if and when W3 turns out to be as good as it looks to be.

'This is what we wanted from Dragon Age Inquisition!', claim many PC gamers regarding the CDPR RPG.

 

I hold no doubt that CDPR will ever deceive us.  Their track record is too good.  And sadly, I don't think Bioware/EA care.  Honestly, I really don't.  I honestly thing they are just biding their time until we leave for W3.


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I hold no doubt that CDPR will ever deceive us.  Their track record is too good.  And sadly, I don't think Bioware/EA care.  Honestly, I really don't.  I honestly thing they are just biding their time until we leave for W3.

 

Every company has such a record....until they don't.


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Ah, nostalgia. 

 

IMO, our starry-eyed remembrances makes us forget the clunky crap rife in Origins; that slow, painfully tedious combat, terrible lighting and horrible character models and anims, those gangly clothed and cringe-inducing sexytimes, Morrigan's infantile 'seduction' voice,and Leliana's fishy-air-gulping singing style.  Because of the laziness of DA2, we forget solid stand-out characters like Aveline and Isabella (two of the best female characters in games, easily - in a lot of movies and TV, too) and even Merrill had her moments. and the decent character development didn't hurt.  The combat was certainly the best of this franchise. Frankly, that's all EA had going for it with either franchise - DA and ME - the characters and their stories, although none of them were particularly original. Inquisition's only saving grace is that it's at least pretty - when it works at all.  If you play either franchise for the character and story, you don't tend to care about glitches or clunky combat until it interferes with story time.  If you expect scintillating action-packed gameplay... well, none of these games have had that.  Call of Duty has had more legit tense moments gameplay-wise than any "BioWare" game (and a storyline that spans four games - and is actually pretty good - not that anyone notices).

 

The biggest complaint I saw concerning ME3's end - other than it being stupid and negating everything that led up to it, was how it betrayed the characters, and made them look ridiculous.  The characters - which frankly is, I think, all most people play these games for - 'cause it can't be the combat - that's always sucked.  DA:I being sequel and DLC-bait doesn't help its credibility, either. Your Inquisitor got you there, but he had no epic battles doing it (dragons don't count.  They had nothing to do with the storyline) and the ending was there as more of a "one down!" kinda thing.

 

To make a long story longer, judge the games without the nostalgia.  Without the nostalgia, they're all as disappointing as hell.

Personally I think I may have preferred DA2 to DAO in the long run. But that's just me. DAO is the superior game (although was expecting BG2 reborn so, my first playthrough, I was disappointed).

 

DA2 is more my style. I'm not much for the hero story and orcs darkspawn and such.

 

Mark of the Assassin is everything DAI failed to accomplish in Orlais, and especially at the Princess Pony Ball with no tie to the story.

 

The wyvern fight on nightmare without a healer is really, really challenging and fun. Before they nerfed DW rogue, that is.


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Ah, nostalgia. 

 

IMO, our starry-eyed remembrances makes us forget the clunky crap rife in Origins; that slow, painfully tedious combat, terrible lighting and horrible character models and anims, those gangly clothed and cringe-inducing sexytimes, Morrigan's infantile 'seduction' voice,and Leliana's fishy-air-gulping singing style.  Because of the laziness of DA2, we forget solid stand-out characters like Aveline and Isabella (two of the best female characters in games, easily - in a lot of movies and TV, too) and even Merrill had her moments. and the decent character development didn't hurt.  The combat was certainly the best of this franchise. Frankly, that's all EA had going for it with either franchise - DA and ME - the characters and their stories, although none of them were particularly original. Inquisition's only saving grace is that it's at least pretty - when it works at all.  If you play either franchise for the character and story, you don't tend to care about glitches or clunky combat until it interferes with story time.  If you expect scintillating action-packed gameplay... well, none of these games have had that.  Call of Duty has had more legit tense moments gameplay-wise than any "BioWare" game (and a storyline that spans four games - and is actually pretty good - not that anyone notices).

 

The biggest complaint I saw concerning ME3's end - other than it being stupid and negating everything that led up to it, was how it betrayed the characters, and made them look ridiculous.  The characters - which frankly is, I think, all most people play these games for - 'cause it can't be the combat - that's always sucked.  DA:I being sequel and DLC-bait doesn't help its credibility, either. Your Inquisitor got you there, but he had no epic battles doing it (dragons don't count.  They had nothing to do with the storyline) and the ending was there as more of a "one down!" kinda thing.

 

To make a long story longer, judge the games without the nostalgia.  Without the nostalgia, they're all as disappointing as hell.

Ima ctually playing Origins right now.. I couldnt stomach finishing my 2nd play of DA:I, and am throughly enjoying what is likely my 13-14th run in Origins.. Its not nostalgia, if i am having fun.. Those arent rose tinted glasses.. I really love this game.. Inquisition, is horrid.. I, along with many, many others, have listed why this is..

 

Even the darker, grittier graphics in Origins are preferable to this cartoony, over saturated, colorful kiddyland that is Inquisition.. Its too vibrant for this developer... Here is how the wiki reads the view of Origins:

 

Dragon Age: Origins is a role-playing video game developed by BioWare's Edmonton studio and published by Electronic Arts. It is the first game in the Dragon Age franchise. The game was released for Microsoft WindowsPlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 3, 2009, and for Mac OS X on December 21, 2009.

Set in the fictional kingdom of Ferelden during a period of civil strife, the player assumes the role of a warriormage or rogue coming from an elvenhuman, or dwarven background who must unite the kingdom to fight an impending invasion by demonic forces. BioWare describes Dragon Age: Origins as a "dark heroic fantasy set in a unique world," and a spiritual successor to their Baldur's Gate series of games, which took place in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise.[9]

Upon its release, Dragon Age: Origins was met with positive reviews and considered a critical success. Review aggregator site Metacritic ranks the PC, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360 versions of the game with scores of 91, 87, and 86, respectively.[10][11][12] The game also received multiple awards from numerous outlets, ranging from IGN's "PC Game of The Year (2009)"[13] to the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences "Role-Playing/Massively Multiplayer Game of the Year 2009".[14]

An expansion to the game, titled Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening, was released in March 2010, and the official sequel, Dragon Age II, was released in March 2011.[15][16] BioWare intended for Dragon Age: Originsto serve as the foundation for a much broader series. Even before its release, plans to expand the universe introduced by the game were underway, including sequels, pen and paper games, books, and comics to expand the scope of the Dragon Age franchise.[17] Examples of all such projects have since been released.

 

And here we are, closing in on a decade later, and many people still feel the same way about it.. Funnily enough, those who insist on defending Inquisition, have decided Origins was junk.. Though ill bet my bottom dollar, many sang its praises up until now.. Why else would the series have come this far, if its inception was "so bad"? By Today's standard, its beginning to show age, which ill bet some of you Inquisition enthusiasts have only just tried as your free copy with Inquisition.. But its a staple in the crpg genre history.. Spiritual successor to an alltime great BG.. Yet, you now claim it was never such.. Hypocrisy!

 

I love the combat in Origins.. This was acutally one of the things i disliked about Da2, and even worse in Inquisition,, The horrid combat animations get me stuck in attacks, or aoe more often than not.. Staff animations take forever, dagger animations leave you missing, or passing your target.. And the "stiff, straight arms" are exactly the same in Inquisition, as they are in Origins.. Lets not foget just how much clipping there is in Inquisitions, and that atrocious Elf model..We have plenty of action combat games, if thats what is liked.. Dragon Age, started out as a tactical, slow paced game.. You could play it a little faster, in real time, but it really shined when you issued stacking ommands, coinciding with y our tactic behavior setups..

 

As for Mss Effect, i still prefer part one, to either 2, or 3.. I thought itw as a great full on rpg, set in a Sci-Fi setting (which i normally despise.. I prefer fantasy all the way)... Mass Efcet 1, got me to play a style of game, that i never thought i would enjoy.. Part 2, was still a good game, but felt mroe like a 3rd person, actions hooter to me, than rpg.. 3 further separated itself from rpg to shooter.. While i did enjoy all 3, part 1 is my favorite, as an rpg.. (its not a common sentiment, but the sdame with Assassins Creed 1.. Its my favorite in the series, and most didnt like it) It may be because i played these titles when they released, and yes i am nostalgic, but that is my feelings.. Ive never been one to follow others, or trends.. 

 

Everytime i new game in a series, that i play, is readying release, i play the entire series from the beginning.. Refreshing my memory, re-familiarizing myself with the world, story, etc.. Maybe even making changes  that will last, that i hadnt before.. I did so with all Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, Arkham, etc.. Anytime its a continuation, or a something i simply, thoroughly enjoy.. To claim its all nostalgia, s simply wrong., You're claiming to know how each and every person feels, and views the world.. Something no one, dead, or living, is capable of doing! Im currently lvl 14 in Origins, on my Human male, dual wield Rogue, having just picked Assassins, after choosing Duelist at lvl 7..Im on nightmare (ofcourse) and have finished the mage towers, Redcliffe, and am splitting the Orzammar, and Brecilian Forest quests before moving onto Denerim... Ive completed all the Dlc, and use no mods.. I do not use ANY exploit, and constantly switch out 2 of my followers.. The only constant, is Allistar! 


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Ima ctually playing Origins right now.. I couldnt stomach finishing my 2nd play of DA:I, and am throughly enjoying what is likely my 13-14th run in Origins.. Its not nostalgia, if i am having fun.. Those arent rose tinted glasses.. I really love this game.. Inquisition, is horrid.. I, along with many, many others, have listed why this is..
 
Even the darker, grittier graphics in Origins are preferable to this cartoony, over saturated, colorful kiddyland that is Inquisition.. Its too vibrant for this developer...

And here we are, closing in on a decade later, and many people still feel the same way about it.. Funnily enough, those who insist on defending Inquisition, have decided Origins was junk.. Though ill bet my bottom dollar, many sang its praises up until now.. Why else would the series have come this far, if its inception was "so bad"? By Today's standard, its beginning to show age, which ill bet some of you Inquisition enthusiasts have only just tried as your free copy with Inquisition.. But its a staple in the crpg genre history.. Spiritual successor to an alltime great BG.. Yet, you now claim it was never such.. Hypocrisy![/size]
 
I love the combat in Origins.. This was acutally one of the things i disliked about Da2, and even worse in Inquisition,, The horrid combat animations get me stuck in attacks, or aoe more often than not.. Staff animations take forever, dagger animations leave you missing, or passing your target.. And the "stiff, straight arms" are exactly the same in Inquisition, as they are in Origins.. Lets not foget just how much clipping there is in Inquisitions, and that atrocious Elf model..We have plenty of action combat games, if thats what is liked.. Dragon Age, started out as a tactical, slow paced game.. You could play it a little faster, in real time, but it really shined when you issued stacking ommands, coinciding with y our tactic behavior setups..
 
As for Mss Effect, i still prefer part one, to either 2, or 3.. I thought itw as a great full on rpg, set in a Sci-Fi setting (which i normally despise.. I prefer fantasy all the way)... Mass Efcet 1, got me to play a style of game, that i never thought i would enjoy.. Part 2, was still a good game, but felt mroe like a 3rd person, actions hooter to me, than rpg.. 3 further separated itself from rpg to shooter.. While i did enjoy all 3, part 1 is my favorite, as an rpg.. (its not a common sentiment, but the sdame with Assassins Creed 1.. Its my favorite in the series, and most didnt like it) It may be because i played these titles when they released, and yes i am nostalgic, but that is my feelings.. Ive never been one to follow others, or trends.. 
 
Everytime i new game in a series, that i play, is readying release, i play the entire series from the beginning.. Refreshing my memory, re-familiarizing myself with the world, story, etc.. Maybe even making changes  that will last, that i hadnt before.. I did so with all Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, Arkham, etc.. Anytime its a continuation, or a something i simply, thoroughly enjoy.. To claim its all nostalgia, s simply wrong., You're claiming to know how each and every person feels, and views the world.. Something no one, dead, or living, is capable of doing! Im currently lvl 14 in Origins, on my Human male, dual wield Rogue, having just picked Assassins, after choosing Duelist at lvl 7..Im on nightmare (ofcourse) and have finished the mage towers, Redcliffe, and am splitting the Orzammar, and Brecilian Forest quests before moving onto Denerim... Ive completed all the Dlc, and use no mods.. I do not use ANY exploit, and constantly switch out 2 of my followers.. The only constant, is Allistar! 

Good post!
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Personally I think I may have preferred DA2 to DAO in the long run. But that's just me. DAO is the superior game (although was expecting BG2 reborn so, my first playthrough, I was disappointed).

 

DA2 is more my style. I'm not much for the hero story and orcs darkspawn and such.

 

Mark of the Assassin is everything DAI failed to accomplish in Orlais, and especially at the Princess Pony Ball with no tie to the story.

 

The wyvern fight on nightmare without a healer is really, really challenging and fun. Before they nerfed DW rogue, that is.

Well of the two, in my opinion, DA:O had a much more detailed and varied story, with good side quests and your efforts at recruiting throughout the game actually paying off at the end, unlike ME3 or DA:I.  The characters in Origins were solid and well-written, with tons of backstory and excellent and abundant character-specific dialogues.  Everything else bordered on suckage in Origins.  As I said, I just can't see why it's the Golden Child of RPG's.  Maybe it's period-specific. *Shrug*

 

DA2 had decent characters, (as I said, I consider Aveline and Isabella as some of the best-realized females in gaming, Cass and Sera are distant seconds, with Morrigan having the longest character arc) and the story was ambitious and had good moments.  The combat in it, IMO, is superior to both Origins and Inquisition. Legacy was okay and Tallis an irritating know-it-all in DLC I could have lived without just fine. It had its moments as well, however. I would have liked the option to murder-knife Tallis and chuck her off the cliff after the Baron or whatever that dude's name had been.  DA2's story was heavily-contrived in places, and some, like the bit with Hawke's mother and mage-as-serial-killer had some genuine-ness to it.  The Arishok I liked and that situation had promise never really realized yet pretty good for what it was.

 

Inquisition may improve story-wise with new content and DLC, but I won't be shelling out for it.  I have no problems with cliffhangers, yet cliffhangers done simply to milk customers I shall pass on. I've learned the lessons of ME3 well.  There's always the 'Tube and sales at the end of the year, if I still remember this game exists.  The fact that patches are now beta'd by fans and coming along at two month intervals means this game won't be in any more-or-less worry-free state until the bloody autumn.  I have a hard time seeing that as a realistic expectation to have in expecting your player base to still be hangin' round.

 

Inquisition is pretty and plays well on consoles.  That's apparently plenty for most.  The rest seem to be waiting and wallowing in silky memories of Origins and the rough but pleasant jerkjobs it apparently gave out with every purchase. 

 

Mine was broke or gimped or something, 'cos I got gyped.


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I would have liked the option to murder-knife Tallis and chuck her off the cliff after the Baron or whatever that dude's name had been.

Ha! First time I heard someone say that- kinda thought I was the only one. Exactly what I wanted to do with Talis.

Speaking of the murder knife.... really miss it in DAI too.
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Ima ctually playing Origins right now.. I couldnt stomach finishing my 2nd play of DA:I, and am throughly enjoying what is likely my 13-14th run in Origins.. Its not nostalgia, if i am having fun.. Those arent rose tinted glasses.. I really love this game.. Inquisition, is horrid.. I, along with many, many others, have listed why this is..

 

Even the darker, grittier graphics in Origins are preferable to this cartoony, over saturated, colorful kiddyland that is Inquisition.. Its too vibrant for this developer... Here is how the wiki reads the view of Origins:

 

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You definitely have a preference and more power to you.  I certainly didn't intend this as anything remotely like a personal attack, Rizilliant, as it certainly wasn't, (and I hope you didn't take it as one) nor was I (I think) trying to imply that everyone looks at it as pure nostalgia.  As I said above, it had its moments and a lot to enjoy, yet I personally found getting to those moments trying and tedious. 

 

But some people though - they do seem to filter damn-near every RPG experience through Origins and - personally - I just can't see it.  It's an extremely slow game to me, and likely requires far more patience than I usually have.  Saying that, however, I have played it a few times.  It's not high on my list of replays, mind you, but I've done it more than a couple.  I do like it, I just don't see it deserving the bollocks-polishing reverence others apparently do. Also, to be a hypocrite I'd have to have been of the opinion that these were awesome to start with and I've never done.  Also, saying they were "disappointing" is not the same as saying they were "bad".

 

Apologies if there was any confusion.



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Double post.  Sorry.



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Ha! First time I heard someone say that- kinda thought I was the only one. Exactly what I wanted to do with Talis.

Speaking of the murder knife.... really miss it in DAI too.


Murder knife is in the Requisition lists; perhaps a Specialist device.