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@Errationatus If this chart is any indication, PC will be in the lowest priority.
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Sadly, this comes as no surprise. Of course, if you spend half your time calling your fans 'ungrateful' and 'toxic', it certainly doesn't help.
Oh, and out-and-out lying can affect sales too. Also, shabby spin-doctoring. A lousy half-assed almost contemptuous console port....
Does this chart include digital sales? I'm not sure if EA shares Origin sales data.
Does this chart include digital sales? I'm not sure if EA shares Origin sales data.
It probably doesn't and I'm pretty sure EA doesn't share that data. But when you compare it to what it sold on PS4 and Xbox One, it's miniscule. It's around 3 million copies for Xbox One and slightly higher on PS4 according to VGchartz. Of course, it's still an approximation , not 100% accurate. If you add digital sales, I guess that would add a another 50-60% to the number but that still doesn't bode well for PC.
It probably doesn't and I'm pretty sure EA doesn't share that data. But when you compare it to what it sold on PS4 and Xbox One, it's miniscule. It's around 3 million copies for Xbox One and slightly higher on PS4 according to VGchartz. Of course, it's still an approximation , not 100% accurate. If you add digital sales, I guess that would add a another 50-60% to the number but that still doesn't bode well for PC.
I'm pretty sure digital sales on PC are higher than physical sales - I'd guess more than double. Nobody I know buys physical games anymore.
The game also earned a reputation for being relatively awful on the PC, which I'm sure didn't help sales. I, for one, would have bought it if they hadn't had so many screwups.
Same, I would rather have the ability to install/reinstall in minutes rather than hours. Besides I like putting my games on display.
@Cyan
So, from the tone of your posts, I assume the beta forum is becoming like this thread? =/
In the end we can help identify issues and voice our feedback but with a budget post-release support team (as is typical with EA), there's only so much they can do.
I can understand them wanting to move away from the Unreal Engine for Mass Effect, it's an outside engine and they don't want to pay the licensing fee.
However I will never understand the need to move from the Eclipse Engine for Dragon Age. Just to pick on one thing, facial expression/animation, I would say it was better in Origins and DAII using Eclipse than what they've managed with Inquisition in Frostbite (where everyone seems to have had massive botox injections).
I look at Inquisition and I can't think of one positive that using Frostbite brought to the game.
@Errationatus If this chart is any indication, PC will be in the lowest priority.
That't still 26+ million dollars (@ 60$ a pop).. By itself the PC pays the rent and employee salary.
Planning for the Future
A proper design from the start will give future dividends. The cross platform compiler takes care of the individual platform. All you really need is that device input agnostic overlay code sitting between the game and the physical controls. So,... that's three.. the Overlay, the Console commands and the PC commands module. BF 3/4 already has the proper awareness of KB+M. ME4+ PC implementation is a piece of cake.
This overlay module is more important than we realize. Already we have Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous accepting voice and head tracking movements as game input controls. The overlay route will be able to take care of any future input devices, making any game suitable for any platform (provided it meets the game specs, of course).
VR devices will be ready for prime time in about 5-6 years. Game execs are foolish to ignore this coming market.
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I look at Inquisition and I can't think of one positive that using Frostbite brought to the game.
Uh...Mm...Massive empty content?
I'm pretty sure digital sales on PC are higher than physical sales - I'd guess more than double. Nobody I know buys physical games anymore.
The game also earned a reputation for being relatively awful on the PC, which I'm sure didn't help sales. I, for one, would have bought it if they hadn't had so many screwups.
I'm one that likes physical compies..... 
It probably doesn't and I'm pretty sure EA doesn't share that data. But when you compare it to what it sold on PS4 and Xbox One, it's miniscule. It's around 3 million copies for Xbox One and slightly higher on PS4 according to VGchartz. Of course, it's still an approximation , not 100% accurate. If you add digital sales, I guess that would add a another 50-60% to the number but that still doesn't bode well for PC.
EA publishing will concentrate on the Next Gen consoles and the PC. Any "PC efforts" is just for the input device controls, which is a do once activity and then availabe to future games.
PC's will stick around if nothing but to handle future VR games, leaving the consoles choking on their dust for reasons of pathetic GPUs and CPUs.
EA publishing will concentrate on the Next Gen consoles and the PC. Any "PC efforts" is just for the input device controls, which is a do once activity and then availabe to future games.
PC's will stick around if nothing but to handle future VR games, leaving the consoles choking on their dust for reasons of pathetic GPUs and CPUs.
There's a lot of rumors circulating that the next gen consoles will come sooner then later due to the current gen not being able to handle VR/3k/4k resolutions. I guess the 3k/4k resolutions picked up faster then Microsoft/Sony had originally thought. Also, I don't think Sony thought Playstation Now would gain popularity fast as it did.
You know I was thinking that all these patches and fixes were waiting for and the no response from BW is because there putting together a DLC to extend DA:I and fix the issues all in one neat and tidy bundle. It could also be I'm thinking to much into this but I'm hoping this is the case that Bioware is going to surprise us in the coming months and keep it quiet till it comes to release time.
31:30 - Discussion about honesty and transparency between fans/devs
Wow, imagine if AJ did this to EA/Bioware lol
Regardless it's a nice insight into the industry from the CEO of Paradox themselves.
@Jackal19851111 AngryJoe would probably get a lot of PR speak, to be honest.
It probably doesn't and I'm pretty sure EA doesn't share that data. But when you compare it to what it sold on PS4 and Xbox One, it's miniscule. It's around 3 million copies for Xbox One and slightly higher on PS4 according to VGchartz. Of course, it's still an approximation , not 100% accurate. If you add digital sales, I guess that would add a another 50-60% to the number but that still doesn't bode well for PC.
@Novos No idea where I pulled that # from. I think it's time for sleep. Global totals: Xbox one was at 638,901 copies, PS4 1,393,761, PC 450,000. Xbox360 370,000 PS3 410,000. Even accounting for digital sales, PC performed poorly.
@Novos No idea where I pulled that # from. I think it's time for sleep.
Why would they bother making a proper pc game when they can sell 450k copies with minimal effort in addition to the main console sales? And a lot of people think they havent even been deceived with the ads. ME4 will be probably business as usual, same ****.
Why would they bother making a proper pc game when they can sell 450k copies with minimal effort in addition to the main console sales? And a lot of people think they havent even been deceived with the ads. ME4 will be probably business as usual, same ****.
Pillars of eternity is out in a few days, there's a GMG vip deal making it cheap.
Pillars of eternity is out in a few days, there's a GMG vip deal making it cheap.
Yes, there are many games coming out and that is great. But it does not fix THIS game, does it?
This boat has already sunk, there's nothing the devs can do now (mostly because they're unwilling to).
This boat has already sunk, there's nothing the devs can do now (mostly because they're unwilling to).
Indeed.
@DAI Sales on PC - So much for destroying Bioware RPG legacy and frustrating fans of old. Proper games can still sell a lot in PC with a lot less market and bought GOTYs - http://uk.ign.com/ar...over-500k-units
But it is about consoles and sales and when it comes to this, they are right in doing what they did you can never beat the sales of a dumb game for dumb people with a true RPG for people who actually spend time thinking about what they are doing instead of holding left mouse button (or the hotkey to Spirit Blade).
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