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#1601
Akrabra

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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 


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@CarnieHeart, 

  • both origin and DA3 shortcuts set to "administrator" 

Try to run it without ''as Administrator'', worked for me (no more DX crashes) so you can try that too.

 

Edit: Oh wait, you have a NVidia GPU, so It won't probably work anyway, when I was using nv card I have crashes too in many games like Dead Rising 3 or Sleeping Dogs, now with AMD GPU I don't have any, just saying..

 

Without "as administrator" is how I was originally playing the game. It was an EA Games advisor who told me to change the shortcuts. Every other game I own runs like a dream on this PC. Dragon Age: Inquisition is the only one that has given me a massive headache.

 

I no longer own this game, so for now there is nothing for me to do with it. My main reason for keeping an eye on this thread is because I will consider re-purchasing DA:I if the crash issues are resolved in a patch. From what I can tell from watching Youtube videos, the game itself looks like something I would enjoy. I only got the refund due to my lack of trust in EA Games and Bioware. I don't believe they will fix it, and $70 is way too much money to risk losing.


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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 

 

I hate to mention this, but you aren't considering the view-points of people who are having difficulty (or aren't able to play at all) due to disabilities or impairments.

 

Some in the community have mentioned not being able to even use a controller due to arthritis or missing limbs.

 

Maybe a little more compassion on your end might be considered.  


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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 

 

The fact that you don't see any problem does not mean other players have no problems with the game. That's why what people call it a "community", means a lot of players at the same place.


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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 

 

"Hey carpenter this chair hurts when sitting down."

"Don't be so ungrateful. See it is not breaking or anything, and you can sit just fine."

"But I paid good money for a decent chair..."

"Adapt. Just sit on your left cheek like that, and stop thinking about the pain!"


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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.
 
Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game.


Yes! You tell them! How dare they whine and curse and spit hatred, when all they had to do is a simple adaptation. And for those who paid 70$, yet are unable to run the game on their machines -- those should have gone with consoles, because, you know, adaptation and such...
Ungrateful, spoiled little kiddies! Want everything spoon fed to them. Like a better tactical controls, deeper gameplay, less tedious quests, character customisation and progression is SO yestarday and easy. We all are stupid here, sitting, complaining, not willing to accept a 3rd person shooten'up, for what its truly is: A Great [censored] Game!
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"Hey carpenter this chair hurts when sitting down."

"Don't be so ungrateful. See it is not breaking or anything, and you can sit just fine."

"But I paid good money for a decent chair..."

Here, have a seat
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Now while I'm waiting for some more news about the forthcoming patch/s - I've been messing with SweetFX settings for DA:I and thought I would share my first couple of comparison sample videos - There's no gameplay as such so you should be safe watching ;) ;

 

 

I am going to have to use this for DA:I. The light sources that go nowhere and the pitch black areas until I walk into them are driving me nuts. 



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:rolleyes:


That is a ********* travesty...
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If you're having problems with super long loading times, set the Ambient Occlusion to Off. I haven't noticed any graphical difference and it helped a lot with my load times.



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I just want auto-attack instead of having to hold down a godamn button.  I can achieve this by 1) using the Tac Cam, which is otherwise useless, or 2) not control my character and switch to someone else....because the AI will then do it.

 

Seriously....we can use something almost completely useless....or not play our own character.  I can't help but laugh at that, haha.



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A quick tip guys  for those who have a good AMD/ATI card in their rig..turn mantle on...itsi n the direct x setting  its amazing sorted out any low framerates and graphically its brilliant!!


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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 

 

 

It´s either gushing or whining that gets thrown around here to belittle praise or concern. I personally don´t take someone serious who borders only on one side of the spectrum.

 

Keep in mind how the game was advertised to the PC audience. Expectations about the control-scheme were raised to gain customers like advertisement should and USPs were thrown around in Interviews to strenghten those expectations. In a way BW knotted the rope around their own necks with phrases like "developed with pc as lead platform" which now raises eyebrows, because I for one really want to know now what that statement includes.

 

But again you have extreme opinions on all sides. I´ll take a shot or two when the words Fanboy or Entitled come up. Might be dead before the patch comes around.


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If you're having problems with super long loading times, set the Ambient Occlusion to Off. I haven't noticed any graphical difference and it helped a lot with my load times.

Sadly ambient occlusion is off in my game and i still have freezes during load times....15 to 20 minutes to get ingame. I'm glad it works for you however, and hopefully will for others with massively long load times.



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hmm so much complaining? I had like 3 crashes in 70 hours of gaming on a pretty medium system to be honest. I never had a problem with the Mouse and keyboard, because i adapted? Heard about adapting?. People this day and age want everything spoon fed to them like kids and if you don't get what you want you whine?. BioWare makes games for a pretty broad audience and cannot cater to you personally, just a reminder.

 

Ofc there are things that should have been better at pc, the controls are abit clunky, the tactical camera isn't good, but it has functions that are valueable. Yet i never stopped to think about it, i just played and it was no hassle. I hope people can have a little patience and try abit more before they swear this is the worst port in history. And i am ready for a patch to fix the minor problems, but until then enjoy the game. 

Well, its nice to know that you can play game with very little issue. IF i manage to get in the game i too can play with only minor issues (issues i still hope are fixed in a patch) And yes i've searched and tried every fix i can find for certain issues I am having with his game. I've no problem with adapting. However more often then not i cannot get ingame to "enjoy the game" whilst waiting for patches. But by all means, continue to enjoy the game whilst the rest of us who cannot play atm....wait. 


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#1617
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Bioware you are ... meep meep !

 

How amazing is the Jogging speed you've made just after the Darse attack. It should have been the default speed since day one.  



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Their stock is up since the launch of DA:I

 

The thinking is that the new console players are going to make up for whatever PC gamers are lost. 

They already made a decision that is where the future of the series is. 

 

Tactical Cam and mouse and keyboard were tacked onto the game, the game was not designed to meet the needs of these features. 

 

So we know where this is going. We can hope for patches , but to think this is going to end up like a DA:O or DA2 game with the modding, and the focus on easy play with the mouse probably isn't realistic. 

 

Not when someone can just pick up a Xbox 360 controller, plug it into their PC and play the game as it was designed to be played. 

 

Here are some sales figures that I found:

Total sales of both games as of July 22nd:
DAO 3.79 million, .39 million PC
DA2 1.45 million, .29 million PC


A better comparison is the first ten weeks following launch of the games. DAO had already sold 2.5 million, and DA2 barely made half that.

Here's some charts for DA2 vs DAO.

It seems that people actually liked the slow, tactical combat and systems of DA:O. 

 

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But for some reason the new direction goes even further away from that. 

 

I suppose the final figures will show what the market thinks. Is this the new direction for all future Bioware games? Or will attention be paid to tactical combat, and slowing things down a bit as an RPG rather than a third person action game? 

If DA:I misses at launch, people should seriously start taking stock that the crew at Bioware responsible for the overall direction of these games is out of touch with the market. There was DA2, which did not do as well. There was SWTOR which took a very long period of fixes and pivoting on design direction to start being profitable, if DA:I is added to that list it would not be good. Maybe this is because the only thing EA executives understand is big explosions and fast movement, Michael Bay?  

The true test for DA:I is when Witcher 3 is released early next year. If Witcher 3 blows it out of the park with world graphics (they look as beautiful as DA:I) and more importantly GAMEPLAY and story....then Bioware's had it as being seen as the top of the RPG market. 

 

If we want an Action RPG we can go play the Witcher 3, WITH mod support. 

Which was a point I made earlier, Bioware controlled a niche with DA:O, and DA2. That was the high quality , AAA, team based tactical western RPG. DA:I should have focused on what was necessary to maintain that. Without that focus on tactical I might as well be playing just about any action RPG. 

 

I suspect EA stock is up (by 1.15% currently) because of investor relations and the fact that nobody expects the Bioware Inquisition failure.

No one. Not from the Motley Fool I quoted from earlier today. (Of course, EA has other divisions so maybe, Bioware is to EA what WotC is to Hasbro). But this game has stirred the pot like no other game - the most anticipated game of the year - and for this candle to be snuffed, a lot of darkness will fall. A lot. Particularly within the division.

Wait until the press see the DA3 numbers.

 

Looking at your stuff - and you have my thanks for sharing the charts - I feel as though no amount of warning has prepared me for identifying the body, bloodied and battered. It took my breath away. Were I the PR executive at Bioware, and had I not spoken up trusting in the voices of other execs, I would feel compelled to resign. This is a crisis of their own making.

 

If I compare DA2 sales revenue with the Kickstarter ("donations") for Kingdom Come: Deliverance of $2.1 Million I am blown away. I am sure if the men over at Warhorse Studio were to see your sobering stuff it would definitely "keep them honest" to their original idea. [Boogles the mind why it did not have the same effect on Bioware. This wasn't intentional.] It is apparent there is a "chest ful of money to loot" on games like DA:O and Deliverance (going by the game concept they have expressed). And nothing in MMOs that become free-to-play and then disappear.

 

Though not surprised, what I see from your facts starts to make the loss in revenue I forecast more numerically real and the parting of ways between Bioware executives and EA absolutely necessary. And I am sure EA's BoD can lay hands on stronger numbers than the ones you have presented.

 

Thanks again for sharing. If you could post this on a blog space somewhere, so others may access it to read without fear of a locked thread disappearing within Bioware Division's forum, it might be a service to the whole PC RPG video game industry - as well as we consumers within that market.  I will direct Warhorse Studios to take a look.

 

Well done sir! Hat's off.


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I hate to mention this, but you aren't considering the view-points of people who are having difficulty (or aren't able to play at all) due to disabilities or impairments.

 

Some in the community have mentioned not being able to even use a controller due to arthritis or missing limbs.

 

Maybe a little more compassion on your end might be considered.  

 

This.

 

This is much more than just a "hey, get used to it" problem. It's a legitimate useability issue for a lot of people.


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The tactical camera is a joke Bioware! In it's current sate it is more or less useless. I'm genuinely interested in what in gods name you were thinking when you decided that the tactical camera was fine and ready for release. What were you thinking? You managed to implement a tactical overview camera that actually gives you worse overview!

 

It's supposed to give you a overview of the battlefield. But since the camera is top-down and not isometric, and you can only zoom out about an inch or so from you character it just make things worse. You can't see sh*t! Especially when you're in a cave or a room. 

And lets not even try to grasp the developers reasoning behind the PC controls for the camera in tactical view...

 

Who ever approved the tactical camera in it's current state should be ashamed!

 

Either patch the camera, fix the controls, change to isometric view and let us zoom out further or just remove the sorry thing from the game all together.



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Using the newest AMD beta drivers does not fix the devicehung issue for me and for a lot of other people as well.

 

$60 for a game that is still unplayable a week after launch, ridiculous. 


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I am sorry but its been a while now and no word, not even a forum thread with a list of fixes they have in store. 

 

Is this usual for Bioware games?, i say that because i really enjoy this game and Origins. But i have already been forced to restart due to my characters voice changing when Hawke gets introduced. 

 

Is it worth starting again or just wait for a patch?. not to mention the fps stutters in cutscenes and some area fps drops.



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The tactical camera is a joke Bioware! In it's current sate it is more or less useless. I'm genuinely interested in what in gods name you were thinking when you decided that the tactical camera was fine and ready for release. What were you thinking? You managed to implement a tactical overview camera that actually gives you worse overview!

 

It's supposed to give you a overview of the battlefield. But since the camera is top-down and not isometric, and you can only zoom out about an inch or so from you character it just make things worse. You can't see sh*t! Especially when you're in a cave or a room. 

And lets not even try to grasp the developers reasoning behind the PC controls for the camera in tactical view...

 

Who ever approved the tactical camera in it's current state should be ashamed!

 

Either patch the camera, fix the controls, change to isometric view and let us zoom out further or just remove the sorry thing from the game all together.

 

I'm thinking that it was some sort of intellectual masturbation on their part to even be able to achieve this crapy tac cam with the frostbite engine EA imposed them...

 

Just like some video where the guy from Bioware was extatic cause they had been able to make animals and four leged things with the engine, which everyone told them would be near impossible due to the limitation of said engine. At the time I hadn't paid to much attention but when I saw the Mabari dogs and Hyena in DA:I I understood... 

 

 

I am sorry but its been a while now and no word, not even a forum thread with a list of fixes they have in store. 

 

Is this usual for Bioware games?, i say that because i really enjoy this game and Origins. But i have already been forced to restart due to my characters voice changing when Hawke gets introduced. 

 

Is it worth starting again or just wait for a patch?. not to mention the fps stutters in cutscenes and some area fps drops.

 

 

BW don't know how to handle crisis of this magnitude. They stay silent most of the time, promising vague fixes that generally comes weeks / months later. 

 

One thing with Bioware is how proud they are of their game and how they considers their consumers as numbers going into their account whereas players who could have good feedback. 

 

And well, I say that after having played well over 40hours on DA:I and played all Bioware games so I when I say that IN MY OPINION something's wrong with the game, yeah well, something's wrong obviously ;)



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I am sorry but its been a while now and no word, not even a forum thread with a list of fixes they have in store. 

 

Is this usual for Bioware games?, i say that because i really enjoy this game and Origins. But i have already been forced to restart due to my characters voice changing when Hawke gets introduced. 

 

Is it worth starting again or just wait for a patch?. not to mention the fps stutters in cutscenes and some area fps drops.

Admittedly I wasn't there when DA:O or DA II launched, but even to this day both of those games still have issues.

 

DA:O has a massive memory leak, and will crash periodically if you don't set the processor affinity.

 

DA II apparently has a DX11 bug that will cause severe frame rate issues on the highest settings, and will cause character body parts to disappear otherwise.

 

I'm saying this because you asked if this is a Bioware trend. I'm beginning to think it might be, at least for the Dragon Age series.



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I am sorry but its been a while now and no word, not even a forum thread with a list of fixes they have in store.

Is this usual for Bioware games?, i say that because i really enjoy this game and Origins. But i have already been forced to restart due to my characters voice changing when Hawke gets introduced.

Is it worth starting again or just wait for a patch?. not to mention the fps stutters in cutscenes and some area fps drops.



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