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[KilrB]

Step aside, Bioware. The Witcher 3 cometh! 

 

And THIS is how you make a fantasy RPG: 

 

 

 

Paid £39 for DAI

 

Will only pay £28 for TW3 which will include a bunch of FREE DLC!

 

So why would I ever buy another Bioware game? 

 

This ... THIS ... is what I expected from Bioware.

 

This is what I had hoped DA:I would deliver.

 

They had a head start and they had the people who could have done it.

 

COULD and SHOULD have done it.

 

 ... but then EA happened.

 

Bioware doesn't really exist anymore, and those people don't work there anymore.

 

Thank (insert name of your deity here) CDPR stepped up.

[KilrB]

Do it.  Needlepoint is excellent for bad joints... or is that with?

 

Needlepoint?

 

 ... you mean acupuncture.

[FOE]

Booware has failed us.  They don't care, or EA won't pay them to care.  Either way.  I'm done with this game.  It's an epic failure, in my opinion.  Some button-mashing, console-lovers might beg to differ, but I don't care anymore.  I've moved on.  I've rediscovered old classics and purchased new games that cater to my interests.  Put a stake in Boooware's heart - it's dead.

[Cobwebmaster]

As your reply insinuated DAI was only for those with new console experience, simply offered my own experience to counter the argument. And I also programmed using COBOL, though my Father was the one with practical programming expertise.

With respect it actually did nothing of the sort! All I was suggesting was that the DA world could have been a new experience for console players. Exposing such players to DAI might well generate a whole new perspective and feedback on the game which differs considerably from those that continue to use a pc for their gaming experience. If Bioware has made a conscious decision to cultivate console players with little regard for  pc users it makes a sort of business sense, if you consider that the future for gaming sales lies with consoles. After all to play games like DAI and get the optimum benefits from graphics etc on a pc you need a pretty serious set of system specs. My current system build has cost me around US$1,700 which includes 2 Graphics card upgrades costing around $200. Of course I use my pc for more than just gaming and I have nowhere near the latest spec GPU or CPUs. The latest Graphics cards are not cheap neither are SSDs and CPU upgrades for a compatible MOBO. For a fraction of that you can get a good games console and hook it up to your HDTV or home cinema system for nothing.

GAME retailers(what's left of them) in the UK have no real interest in selling PC games and only do so as a concession to the few that remain loyal to their desktops for such things. Eventually I expect them to stop supplying those sort of games simply through lack of demand and the rise of the game download facility from organisations such as Steam

Personally what we do or did in real life doesn't matter as far as this and other gaming forums are concerned, but I will say that my professional experience was strictly limited to business systems development and implementation and that I hated Windows as their executables used up far too many system resources. They still do and such GUIs are the reason we have a continuing demand for faster broadband, LAN, and WAN speeds. I was much happier operating with DOS, and UNIX in the eighties and nineties, but even happier holding the IT budget for a multi million dollar business. Each year my operating budget went up through demand, while other departments experienced cuts. Good place to be in IT. You get to play with all the latest stuff and get users clamouring for it via their executive VPs. Still hate upgrades far too much work

 
 

[Amplitudelol]

This ... THIS ... is what I expected from Bioware.

 

This is what I had hoped DA:I would deliver.

 

They had a head start and they had the people who could have done it.

 

COULD and SHOULD have done it.

 

 ... but then EA happened.

 

Bioware doesn't really exist anymore, and those people don't work there anymore.

 

Thank (insert name of your deity here) CDPR stepped up.

 

But you still dont know if what they say in the video is true. This just might be the same kind of deception EA did with the "Console Game for Console Gamers by Console Gamers" video. Unlikely you might say but Inquisition being THIS big of a mess was not likely either before launch. At least i didnt think it was going to be before i walked into the store and bought the game. Do not trust game developers ever and dont take for granted what they say. I sure never will.

[Elhanan]

@ Cobwebmaster

Again, my experience differs. Find that owning and maintaining a reasonable PC rig is about the same expense as keeping a current gen console, and far less trouble. Plus, I get better controls as I cannot use a controller for most games; have little eye-hand coordination. And while Skyrim appeared to look amazing on the XBOX demo vids, being able to mod it and tailor the game to my designs made this a more worthwhile investment.

[Cobwebmaster]

@ Cobwebmaster

Again, my experience differs. Find that owning and maintaining a reasonable PC rig is about the same expense as keeping a current gen console, and far less trouble. Plus, I get better controls as I cannot use a controller for most games; have little eye-hand coordination. And while Skyrim appeared to look amazing on the XBOX demo vids, being able to mod it and tailor the game to my designs made this a more worthwhile investment.

It's true that owning a pc gives you an advantage over console operators in respect of games where you can develop or simply download mods to enhance the gameplay experience. Leaving aside the debate over whether mods actually enhance the games or create a new game, there is a noticeable difference in the way Bioware has moved away from allowing mod development on it's more recent products, and opted for DLCs few of which in later ones represent anything near value for money. That seems to imply a conscious move towards attracting console users and winding down it's game exposure to pc gamers. ME2 mods were good and became integral to the plot and storyline in ME3 but the ME3 ones I thought were poor and simply window dressing

I suppose much depends on what you regard as a "reasonable" system. In my case I have enough basic resources to play both DAI and the Witcher 3 though I must admit that upgrading my CPU to an AMD II 6 core, and my graphics to a NVIDIA GeFrce 650Ti had more to do with the approach of W3 than DAI. When you look at it overall around £1500 GB over 5 years doesn't break down to to much cash exposure. However the trap most people whether console owners or PC guardians have now become ensnared in is the need to constantly upgrade their hardware for better performance or to meet higher basic system specs for new games. However, the console is still a tempting short term cost saving alternative in such climes. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that the only difference between the two systems is the initial cash outlay, overall costs (if you buy wisely) will even out - assuming that games continue to be produced in large quantities and with adequate support for PC users. Of course upgrading your pc will gain for you a lot more benefits than just game performance and operation. Certainly you will be getting more bang for your buck that way, but most of my personal future needs can be taken care of by a tablet at about half the cost 

 I am rapidly approaching my mid 60s and have made a conscious decision to make Witcher 3 the last game I buy on the pc My system unit is now over 5 years old. The next upgrade necessary would involve a new mobo and therefore a new o/s as well thanks to Microsoft's extortion racket linked to upgrading your CPU on existing motherboards. 

 

[Elhanan]

@ Cobwebmaster

Am 57 yrs of age, but am on a fixed income due to a forced retirement based on a disability. Thus keeping a top end machine is impractical, but as previously noted, an upper middle range system has worked well for me. As I rather Techless, I keep it simple; use what has worked for me in the past unless there is a reason for change. Am content with Windows, NVidia cards, Intel chipsets, and while I prefer ASUS MB's, I yield to those more expert when they install my rig

Also have nothing against console users or machines; simply cannot play them myself. And I play fewer titles than most gamers, so will skip PoE and TW3, and will play older titles acquired from GOG.

As far as modding, I prefer to enhance the vanilla game; not overhaul or change it. Using Skyrim, was able to go from 700+ hrs on Vanilla to 2800+ hrs while modding; appears to be a worthy investment. And I do not fault Bioware for upgrading engines; Techies are already designing modding tools for FB3, so am content with Vanilla DAI for my current fix.

[DavianBurke]

I don't know the true story behind that debacle, but in my humble opinion and from what I gathered from Bioware employees that worked out of Austin is that Bioware ran out of time. They were already past their due date and looking at another extension to finish the game, but EA balked. EA called Bioware out for not meeting deadlines and pressured Bioware to make an ending... any ending and if possible, open-ended as possible to further milk the franchise. Enter Starchild. Even if you don't agree with EA, Bioware blew it. EA had indoctrinated Bioware and now we have Inquisition. Another incomplete game (at least on PCs) that we all bought because of the hype machine. May 19th... get it together Bioware.

 

 

Read this: 
http://www.gameranx....ersial-ending/ 

[DavianBurke]

But you still dont know if what they say in the video is true. This just might be the same kind of deception EA did with the "Console Game for Console Gamers by Console Gamers" video. Unlikely you might say but Inquisition being THIS big of a mess was not likely either before launch. At least i didnt think it was going to be before i walked into the store and bought the game. Do not trust game developers ever and dont take for granted what they say. I sure never will.

 

You've clearly not played either of the first two games in the series. 

 

You are objectively correct in that this could all be smoke and mirrors and they dialed it in for this game and are hoodwinking us. 

 

Unlike BioWare, in which we saw cracks in the foundation and ignored them in the hopes they'd get their Frostbite together, CDPR has never put forth anything sub-par. Any bugs, inevitable in any large game, are immediately addressed via a patch and an apology from the developers. 

 

These guys are an example of what BioWare was. 

[line_genrou]

[abholer]

6 patches down the road and mouse controls are still cumbersome and frustrating. the only thing pc gamers got is a run/walk toggle. what an insult!!! give us proper mouse movement like in dao. you did that already in tactical view, but its not usable outside of combat (and not even there) because the camera is to narrow. if you cannot do it, just fly me over and i implement that for free.

 

...and the mage's casting animations are so silly. it just hurts. i thought this is a mature game...

[Sylveria_Relden]

I'd like to say something regarding the whole console vs pc debate. I know I don't speak for "all pc gamers" no more than someone who likes (or chooses) to play on a console speaks for all console gamers.

 

I like choice. I affirm that people should also have the right to play on any platform they wish to play on... however, limiting PC gamers to the restrictions of console hardware is ridiculous. PERIOD.

 

Regardless of the "investment of resources and time management" debate- this is the core of the argument when it comes to the dissatisfaction of most PC gamers- that we who choose to play on a PC get the "short end of the stick" when we have hardware that can handle much more than a limited hardware capacity console.

 

We're not saying they shouldn't have released the game for consoles- we're saying if you're going to release it on PC hardware make it run decently on PC hardware.

[Elhanan]

That's why we we're here and Bioware still continues to scratch their heads and look at us like we're cannibals. The PC version is unfinished. The game itself is less than Origins in almost every category. The only improvements I saw from Origins to Inquisition are the graphics and guess what? That was a problem at release and still continues to be a problem for PC users. After five months, you would think someone can come up with working code to use a gaming mouse. Well, it did take them six patches to map the extra buttons to the mouse, but hey... 
 
We, the PC Community, bought an incomplete game and since it's way past the money-back guarantee period, I'm stuck with this game. I really had a lot of optimism about Bioware fixing the issues, but now I am getting to the point where I won't spend another cent to support them. I'm here to see if they can implement point-to-click and steer with both mouse buttons using FB3.

Only speaking for myself, but I am not a part of this so-called community; belong to another that supports Bioware. Thanks!

[Sartoz]

It's true that owning a pc gives you an advantage over console operators in respect of games where you can develop or simply download mods to enhance the gameplay experience. Leaving aside the debate over whether mods actually enhance the games or create a new game, there is a noticeable difference in the way Bioware has moved away from allowing mod development on it's more recent products, and opted for DLCs few of which in later ones represent anything near value for money. That seems to imply a conscious move towards attracting console users and winding down it's game exposure to pc gamers. ME2 mods were good and became integral to the plot and storyline in ME3 but the ME3 ones I thought were poor and simply window dressing

I suppose much depends on what you regard as a "reasonable" system. In my case I have enough basic resources to play both DAI and the Witcher 3 though I must admit that upgrading my CPU to an AMD II 6 core, and my graphics to a NVIDIA GeFrce 650Ti had more to do with the approach of W3 than DAI. When you look at it overall around £1500 GB over 5 years doesn't break down to to much cash exposure. However the trap most people whether console owners or PC guardians have now become ensnared in is the need to constantly upgrade their hardware for better performance or to meet higher basic system specs for new games. However, the console is still a tempting short term cost saving alternative in such climes. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that the only difference between the two systems is the initial cash outlay, overall costs (if you buy wisely) will even out - assuming that games continue to be produced in large quantities and with adequate support for PC users. Of course upgrading your pc will gain for you a lot more benefits than just game performance and operation. Certainly you will be getting more bang for your buck that way, but most of my personal future needs can be taken care of by a tablet at about half the cost 

 I am rapidly approaching my mid 60s and have made a conscious decision to make Witcher 3 the last game I buy on the pc My system unit is now over 5 years old. The next upgrade necessary would involve a new mobo and therefore a new o/s as well thanks to Microsoft's extortion racket linked to upgrading your CPU on existing motherboards. 

 

Why a new OS? You should be able to re-install your current OS.

[Sylveria_Relden]

I don't know if there are workarounds, but you can only install Windows 7 and later onto one machine (one motherboard) a total of three times. If you re-install it on another machine and try to do the validation, it will state the date and time you first installed the OS onto your computer and the motherboard nomenclature.

 

Eh, there's ways around this, too- if you use the 800-number call in feature, it will usually work. Windows Activation is pretty dumb in and of itself. Even if you end up on the line with a rep, you just give them the details and they'll usually just help you get another activation code for it. Unless it's obvious the key has been used hundreds of times (which is pretty self-explanatory) they won't have an issue with it.

[Sylveria_Relden]

Elhanan, you can rest assured that I wasn't including you. I should've said, "the very frustrated and aggravated PC community that doesn't include Elhanan..."

 

I'm not going to attack you or smear you or troll you or whatever... but really... you should know the regular posters and we don't include you. 

 

Cyan, you know better than to feed the trolls. If someone isn't adding something remotely positive to the discussion (usually just baiting others into a negative one) just leave it alone. Else they think you engaging them seems to "validate" their points (which it doesn't, but it still makes them believe it does). Not hard to disarm people who have nothing intelligent to add to a conversation, after all.

[DragonsDream]

so in leu of playing DAI, I just spent the last 6 weeks playing Mass Effect for the first time and just finished about 30 minutes ago. This was my first game (after rage quitting DAI 5 minutes) that used WASD movement instead of the mouse. Took some getting used to, but since it's a shooter, it was workable. 90% of movement is just going forward anyway. As is often the case when "going backwards" ME1 certainly felt less refined and detailed than DAO did when I played that 2 or 3 years ago but it definitely had that "Bioware feel" to it and that is always worth experiencing

 

Anyway, I had hoped that now that I had some experience with WASD movement, that DAI might be playable for me now. But no. It works for bows, since that behaves much like a shooter, but then I tried with a sword and spent 5 minutes chaotically running in circles while swinging at air.   OK, so back to waiting for proper mouse controls here and will spend the next 6 weeks on ME2 instead.                          

[Drantwo]

Off-topic

Now that Witcher 3 is upon and DA:I doesn't seem like it going to improve at all, I will have to focus on Witcher 3. Will have to upgrade my rig a little. I also have s query. 

 

How much does CPU frequency affect the FPS? What else does it affect? 

[line_genrou]

Off-topic

Now that Witcher 3 is upon and DA:I doesn't seem like it going to improve at all, I will have to focus on Witcher 3. Will have to upgrade my rig a little. I also have s query. 

 

How much does CPU frequency affect the FPS? What else does it affect? 

 

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