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[Cobwebmaster]

Me too

And me

[Elhanan]

Elhanan posted Patch 7 notes not too long ago I believe.

No; just up through Patch 6:

http://blog.bioware....on-patch-notes/

[SofaJockey]

This thread alone should confirm to Bioware and everyone else that they absolutely FAILED in gaining back any goodwill from their (now ex) PC fans.

 

This thread alone should confirm to BioWare that aside of some cogent discussion it is possible to fill 680 pages with whining hyperbole.

[Dubya75]

This thread alone should confirm to BioWare that aside of some cogent discussion it is possible to fill 680 pages with whining hyperbole.

 

That's cute.

[Dubya75]

So, anyone know if they're fixing the controls in Patch 7 which will probably be out around mid-May? Hmm... anyone? 

 

If it's not in there after close to 700 pages of complaints, then it's a fair to say that Bioware will not fix it. They either don't know how (incompetent) or they don't care (indfifferent) and consider it unnecessary. 

 

Why?

 

There isn't going to be a happy ending to this. 

 

May 19th.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say.... Forget it. They definitely will not make any further improvement to controls or UI or anything PC-specific.

I think they must be starting to realize that it would be candy-coating a turd.

Also incompetence and indifference.

 

Look....if Bioware cared about the PC version of the game at all, they would have provided a PC game to start with. They didn't. And not out of ignorance either. And THAT should tell us a great deal.

 

 

 

I am currently playing Skyrim to fill the time until May 19th. Then I will uninstall DAI to save disk space.

[Ashen Nedra]

This thread alone should confirm to BioWare that aside of some cogent discussion it is possible to fill 680 pages with whining hyperbole.

Oh...Sofajockey!! Long time no see.

 

The British person who, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, according to his moniker and previous interventions I had the honour of witnessing and answering to:

 

-  likes to play on a sofa with a controller, berating old cavemen not going with the flow of playing video games like he does and stubbornly clinging to keyboard and mouse, a method of gaming falsely advertised in the infamous Video;

 

- believe that DAI is justified in its existence and obvious lack of flaws by his strong stance on LGBTQ inclusion in video games (yes, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, the Q is relatively new but Political correctness (PC) demands rigor in following change in PC acronyms, what did you think?;

 

- once explained to me that the dislike of DAI on the Internet, which by definition, encompasses criticism of controls and design decisions, is largely explained by racism against Vivienne and homophobia towards Dorian;

 

- considers that DAI is hugely successful based on EA financial communication mandatory market information designed towards investors without allowing for any breakdown between games and business units;

 

among other manly interventions I'm reserving for further Troll Chasing.

 

is again expressing itself on the PC Community Concerns Thread to complain tearfully of the whine and the hyperbole.

 

 

 

Whining about the Whiners. What a productive activity indeed.

[Dubya75]

Oh...Sofajockey!! Long time no see.

 

The British person who, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, according to his moniker and previous interventions I had the honour of witnessing and answering to:

 

-  likes to play on a sofa with a controller, berating old cavemen not going with the flow of playing video games like he does and stubbornly clinging to keyboard and mouse, a method of gaming falsely advertised in the infamous Video;

 

- believe that DAI is justified in its existence and obvious lack of flaws by his strong stance on LGBTQ inclusion in video games (yes, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, the Q is relatively new but Political correctness (PC) demands rigor in following change in PC acronyms, what did you think?;

 

- once explained to me that the dislike of DAI on the Internet, which by definition, encompasses criticism of controls and design decisions, is largely explained by racism against Vivienne and homophobia towards Dorian;

 

- considers that DAI is hugely successful based on EA financial communication mandatory market information designed towards investors without allowing for any breakdown between games and business units;

 

among other manly interventions I'm reserving for further Troll Chasing.

 

is again expressing itself on the PC Community Concerns Thread to complain tearfully of the whine and the hyperbole.

 

 

 

Whining about the Whiners. What a productive activity indeed.

 

LOL, I got the impression that the main reason for his/her trolling was in order to make use of that buzz-word "hyperbole".

[SofaJockey]

Whining about the Whiners. What a productive activity indeed.

 

That's a valid point, I'm not proud of it, but when the misery drones on for post after post, page after page, it does get very waring.

 

... clinging to keyboard and mouse as falsely advertised in the Video;

 

... believe that DAI is justified in its existence and lack of flaws by his strong stance on LGBTQ inclusion in video games (yes, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, the Q is relatively new but Political correctness (PC) demands rigor in following change in PC acronyms, what did you think?);

 

- once explained to me that the dislike of DAI on the Internet, which by definition, encompasses criticism of controls and design decisions, is largely explained by racism against Vivienne and homophobia towards Dorian;

 

- considers that DAI is hugely successful based on EA financial communication mandatory market information designed to investors without allowing for any breakdown between games and business units.;

 

Oh wow, where do you get that bunch of cobblers from? Those are not my views.

 

Expecting decent keyboard and mouse functionally is perfectly reasonable.

Sure DAI has its flaws in game mechanics which is a matter unrelated to offering players gaming choices.

 

Clearly for some, this thread only welcomes hate and misery, I'll leave you to it then.

[Dubya75]

 

That's a valid point, I'm not proud of it, but when the misery drones on for post after post, page after page, it does get very waring.

 

 

That is the entire point of this thread! To let Bioware know every single day until it finally hits home, how they conned the PC community. To make them have sleepless nights and break out in cold sweats. Maybe they will think twice next time they release a game under false pretence and a third of their total sales are GONE because they completely alienated the PC community!

 

Unfortunately, apologists like you will always get caught in the cross-fire.

[Morroian]

 

 

- believe that DAI is justified in its existence and obvious lack of flaws by his strong stance on LGBTQ inclusion in video games (yes, dear Friends, Guys, Gals and Otherkin, the Q is relatively new but Political correctness (PC) demands rigor in following change in PC acronyms, what did you think?;

 

Please dont bring stupid cultural wars into this thread, it is not needed 

[Morroian]

It is a port because the problem is not just with the controls. The menu interface is terrible.

Well, you can argue that it is atrocious because they expect you to use the controller all the time. But, still... I was always under the impression that I was playing a console game.

 

Apparently if you plug a controller into a PC it plays very smoothly and far better than using a KB&M so that why I I hesitate to go so far as to call it a console port.

[Dubya75]

Apparently if you plug a controller into a PC it plays very smoothly and far better than using a KB&M so that why I I hesitate to go so far as to call it a console port.

 

Please don't bring stupid "plug in a controller" arguments to this thread, it makes you look like an ignorant fool.

 

And BTW, you just demonstrated very clearly how much IT IS A CONSOLE PORT! (lol)

[Morroian]

Please don't bring stupid "plug in a controller" arguments to this thread, it makes you look like an ignorant fool.

 

And BTW, you just stated very clearly how much IT IS A CONSOLE PORT!

 

Read my posts, I'm critical of BW for DAI not defending it.

[Elhanan]

That is the entire point of this thread! To let Bioware know every single day until it finally hits home, how they conned the PC community. To make them have sleepless nights and break out in cold sweats. Maybe they will think twice next time they release a game under false pretence and a third of their total sales are GONE because they completely alienated the PC community!
 
Unfortunately, apologists like you will always get caught in the cross-fire.

Not really. While there are indeed some valid concerns voiced here, much of what is posted is seemigly empty, repetitious rhetoric by the same indv's. This does not represent the PC community; only a fraction of it.

And to attempt to return to the topic, it would be great to see a patch:

* Add more quickslots.
* Enable targeting on Portraits.
* Insure that all abilities are working as designed; also explained as desired.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

you guys seem to know stuff about patches here, tbh i completely lost interest in the game few months ago, but i still have a hope they hid the actual game from us and released some... beta for new IP?

 

anyway: will patch 7 remove the 'empty NPC' and camera collision from tactical mode? will it introduce party multiselection? will there be scripted tactics for party members? will there be tooltips explaining spells/abilities? will damage/defense/... be independent from the gear worn?

 

also

long time ago i found out there is no point in discussing with people who try to prove my tastes are less viable than theirs, insulting me by calling everything i say rubbish, dissmissing my arguments by repeating 'you're wrong' more loudly w/o giving any arguments of their own.

so... don't feed the troll, please.

[Dubya75]

you guys seem to know stuff about patches here, tbh i completely lost interest in the game few months ago, but i still have a hope they hid the actual game from us and released some... beta for new IP?

 

anyway: will patch 7 remove the 'empty NPC' and camera collision from tactical mode? will it introduce party multiselection? will there be scripted tactics for party members? will there be tooltips explaining spells/abilities? will damage/defense/... be independent from the gear worn?

 

also

long time ago i found out there is no point in discussing with people who try to prove my tastes are less viable than theirs, insulting me by calling everything i say rubbish, dissmissing my arguments by repeating 'you're wrong' more loudly w/o giving any arguments of their own.

so... don't feed the troll, please.

 

I very much doubt we will see any of these things in any future patches for this game.

[Degera]

Click and Move was not the topic; holding both Mouse buttons down to drive the character was the subject. And I cannot understand waiting for something that was likely not available earlier.

 

Yes, absolutely you can hold both mouse buttons and move, and turn quite freely, in both DA:O and DA2.  I have hundreds of hours played in both games.  I'm so used to it, in fact, that I try to set up every game I play this way, even if it means frankenbinding the keys.

[Elhanan]

Yes, absolutely you can hold both mouse buttons and move, and turn quite freely, in both DA:O and DA2.  I have hundreds of hours played in both games.  I'm so used to it, in fact, that I try to set up every game I play this way, even if it means frankenbinding the keys.

Thanks; stand corrected. Why is this easier than holding one Mouse key and steering with KB?

[CatatonicMan]

Apparently if you plug a controller into a PC it plays very smoothly and far better than using a KB&M so that why I I hesitate to go so far as to call it a console port.

Odd, as that's one of the main things I look for when determining if something is a console port.

[voteDC]

Thanks; stand corrected. Why is this easier than holding one Mouse key and steering with KB?

For me it allows for character control with my right hand and for my left to control powers and abilities.

 

Using the method you mention I am using both hands to control the character, as well as using the left to use powers and abilities. I have to take a hand away from movement in order to use a power or ability.