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#17526
Amplitudelol

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bleh. it's not about gay or green/pink/violet people in game, or even not hot enough female LIs.

 

it's about being able to RP three types of character - good, slightly good or good but rational. none of them can be racist hating elves and humans, none of them can be cruel (you can pick elfroot very violently if you wish, or at least headcanon it). instead i get very complex and "educational" dialogue with Krem and IB about sexual orientation. fine, be whatever you wish to be, i don't give a damn - you can be married to a building, a book or a goat (unlees she/he's not willing), just give me more ways to RP.

i'm forced to be the savior, goody two shoes. so what if being evil has consequences - i'm counting on it!

the main villain is the ultimate evil (kind of tevinter nazi with god complex, i mean: you cannot be more evil than that), because they didn't want to show too much white in that twisted monster. at least you can bash the chantry, cuz... bashing chantry is always ok, i suppose.

 

but maybe times are different now, games aren't entertainment anymore, just... social education. or whatever.

 

What? Nonsense. Its clearly the green people, there is just too many of them in the game.

 

There are lot of people here btw who genuinely think Bioware gathers gameplay feedback here and there is a discussion here :D. Im just a carrion monster feeding on their desperation consuming their hope.



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but maybe times are different now, games aren't entertainment anymore, just... social education. or whatever.

 

I'm petty agree with this :

 

- DAO : you can be a total ass, murderer, apostate, blood  mage : you can even kill some of your companion... The world is at war : you're facing destruction, massacre, everywhere... You can even profit from some slaver to acquire more power...

 

- DA2 : again, you can be a complete ass, bloodmage, even slaver, borderline racist : some of your companion can leave you based on your action, approval... You can even murder one...

 

- DAI : ok, I'm going to exagerate a bit, but it's carebear land... You can be whiteshoes good, rude good or snarky good... none of your companion can leave you until you say so clearly...

 

Sure we got a nice RPG evolution here...

 

Personnaly, I don't care too much, as I'm enable to play any form of evil in any game, but I can understand the point...

 

JPR out!


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#17528
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I am one of the "old guard", Gundar3.  Those that played nearly the earliest Bioware games (Baulder's Gate) and fell in love with their story telling.  I wish there was a word stronger than utter disappointment in how far Bioware has fallen.  In truth, as I've said many times before, the Bioware we use to know that gave us Baulder's Gate, KOTOR/KOTOR2, DA: Origins and Mass Effect 1 died the day EA bought them out.  EA is known as the "Franchise Killer".  They have destroyed franchises such as Sim City, Command and Conquer (I'll call obliteration on that one), and one game not many know about, an MMO made by Westwood Studioes called Earth and Beyond (it was an MMO that was never done before but had a VERY strong following.  Back then, MMO's weren't big, but the people they did have were very loyal).  We can now add Dragon Age into that and the ending of Mass Effect 3 where everything we did meant absolutely nothing (For those that were fine with the ending, great for you.  Now shut up and let me finish).  I will go back and play the old games.  But no longer will I purchase any of their new ones after this debacle.  They lost me as a customer forever.

 

 

 

It's beyond bad, Cyan.  Bioware doesn't care.  They never did.  This isn't bad.  It's a tragedy.  The Dragon Age Franchise has been officially obliterated.  May it forever rest in peace.

Vive la Vieille Garde (les Grognards - the Old Grumblers)

My first open world or rather Open Galaxy experience was in David Braben's Frontier/ Frontier Elite. I loved it, mining, fighting pirates and bandits, building up personal wealth, bounty hunting and so forth.

Baldur's Gate series finished on a high for me as did DAO. Even DA2 left me with a good feeling at the end (sorta) KOTR I still have and will replay. as I will BG just for some retro perspective. Sadly my old CDs for those games have been used so many times that they are no longer playable. I will have to replace them before enjoying the games again. I might even go for the  converted version of BG to the NWN 2 game engine. KOTR I had forgotten about but still have the game in my library of beloved experiences. NWN through HOTU I loved too and NWN2 (Not Bioware) re-kindled the BG experience. 

I think that the creators of those Bioware games that we loved so much have long since departed the company and what remains in Bioware pretty much resembles roadkill


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#17529
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I seriously couldn't let this one go.

 

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be

 

About Battlefront

 

Yeah, thats a feeling many of us in gaming have atm.  I don't even like Jim but I have to agree with him there.  Marketing as a whole has gone outside the bounds in which its supposed to operate.  Its supposed to titillate to entice a purchase, not present falsities as truth.

 

Now that people all over the place are discussing the ME4 survey, you can already hear the hype language.  How much do you want to bet that colonization will be done from the galactic map "the ME Wartable".?  I can already see selecting a planet habitable, selecting colonize, and being told that it will be done in 20 hours real time.  Ofcourse, if you play multiplayer that time can be shortened! hahaha.


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Quick question.. when is patch 7 going live? I want to map my controller buttons. You know, as this is a console game and it's rubbish with M/K.


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OK, so after reading the last few pages of comments in this thread, I have come to the personal conclusion that the relationship between us long-standing Dragon Age fans and Bioware has completely gone to hell. 

 

Since Bioware is making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to keep their "old" fan base (and it should by now be very clear to everyone that they really don't even want us around any more) I feel it is time for me to permanently distance and dissociate myself from this horribly rubbish game company.

 

Besides, they have completely lost the plot with their game design and story choices anyway, so what it the point in sticking around any longer?

 

This (ex) fan is moving on. 

 

Adios amigos!


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#17532
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Yeah, thats a feeling many of us in gaming have atm.  I don't even like Jim but I have to agree with him there.  Marketing as a whole has gone outside the bounds in which its supposed to operate.  Its supposed to titillate to entice a purchase, not present falsities as truth.

 

Now that people all over the place are discussing the ME4 survey, you can already hear the hype language.  How much do you want to bet that colonization will be done from the galactic map "the ME Wartable".?  I can already see selecting a planet habitable, selecting colonize, and being told that it will be done in 20 hours real time.  Ofcourse, if you play multiplayer that time can be shortened! hahaha.

 

It will be the coolest browser minigame in an AAA console port ever. Just like the Inquisition table but even better.


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#17533
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Yeah, thats a feeling many of us in gaming have atm.  I don't even like Jim but I have to agree with him there.  Marketing as a whole has gone outside the bounds in which its supposed to operate.  Its supposed to titillate to entice a purchase, not present falsities as truth.

 

Now that people all over the place are discussing the ME4 survey, you can already hear the hype language.  How much do you want to bet that colonization will be done from the galactic map "the ME Wartable".?  I can already see selecting a planet habitable, selecting colonize, and being told that it will be done in 20 hours real time.  Ofcourse, if you play multiplayer that time can be shortened! hahaha.

in the end i'll find myself avoiding all products signed by EA/BW. even if they manage to create something that actually has gameplay trailers and all the content&features they told it'd have, i'll probably miss it.

simply because i want games to be associated with joy, not disappointment.



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I think a lot of these PC issues could be fixed by mods .... since the developers don't seem interested in fixing them. 

 

Too bad we're not going to get many. Which was another bad result of the Frostbite choice.

 

Too much has been paid for that decision. The pretty graphics aren't worth it. 


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#17535
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Kinda thought slavery, slaughtering people for fuel, murder, Blood magic, War and it's refugees, Demonic possession, Darkspawn and the like were still evident in DAI; was not aware that opposing such was Politically Correct....

Blood Magic? What Blood Magic in DAI?



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Quick question.. when is patch 7 going live? I want to map my controller buttons. You know, as this is a console game and it's rubbish with M/K.

Try for patch 10. LOL

 

Console issues may be the focus of patch 7.



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OK, so after reading the last few pages of comments in this thread, I have come to the personal conclusion that the relationship between us long-standing Dragon Age fans and Bioware has completely gone to hell. 

 

Since Bioware is making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to keep their "old" fan base (and it should by now be very clear to everyone that they really don't even want us around any more) I feel it is time for me to permanently distance and dissociate myself from this horribly rubbish game company.

 

Besides, they have completely lost the plot with their game design and story choices anyway, so what it the point in sticking around any longer?

 

This (ex) fan is moving on. 

 

Adios amigos!

You do remember that EA wants their games to have a broader appeal?  Besides, if you look at the potential numbers the broader appeal will get them "10 new gamers"  and lose ""3 old guards".  A sure short term policy victory.

 

Also, the cynical me says the Pac-Man mentality of eating game franchises made EA a multi-billion dollar company.  We, the "old guard", are simply flies that need to be flicked off with their tail.  Naturally, there must be a  hot bubbly  spring of new game companies to feed Pac-Man.



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I think a lot of these PC issues could be fixed by mods .. 

Only if the game is moddable which it isn't. Minor colour changes, aside.



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Yeah, thats a feeling many of us in gaming have atm.  I don't even like Jim but I have to agree with him there.  Marketing as a whole has gone outside the bounds in which its supposed to operate.  Its supposed to titillate to entice a purchase, not present falsities as truth.

 

Now that people all over the place are discussing the ME4 survey, you can already hear the hype language.  How much do you want to bet that colonization will be done from the galactic map "the ME Wartable".?  I can already see selecting a planet habitable, selecting colonize, and being told that it will be done in 20 hours real time.  Ofcourse, if you play multiplayer that time can be shortened! hahaha.

Don't forget the filler quests = Mako exploration = repetitive nonsense.

 

Given the hype about what the DAI game was going to be and do followed by the actual game that failed to do what the hype said it would do... and what it does do it does with lackluster enthusiasm... well,  that does it for ME4.



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Blood Magic? What Blood Magic in DAI?


The Venatori were from Tevinter, which apparently use Blood Magic commonly. Also the whole Warden army possession scheme seemed to be based on it. And the Occularies may have been connected due to the sacrifice of the Tranquil to make them. Etc.

Guess it doesn't count if it does not happen to the Player Character....

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of course it doesn't. 

 

if i wanted interesting yet static story i'd read a book use war table.



#17542
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I am starting a petition to make Dragon Age 3 the Game of The Year of 2015 too. One year worth of awards do not do justice to this masterpiece of an rpg! And it is confirmed, there is blood magic in the game. Elhanan accepts any apology in name of Bioware, since they themselves knew from the beginning there is no point listening to this thread full of toxic haters and invalid issues.


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I am starting a petition to make Dragon Age 3 the Game of The Year of 2015 too. One year worth of awards do not do justice to this masterpiece of an rpg! And it is confirmed, there is blood magic in the game. Elhanan accepts any apology in name of Bioware, since they themselves knew from the beginning there is no point listening to this thread full of toxic haters and invalid issues.

 

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic with this comment.

 

Perpetuating fallacy does not truth make.


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Quick question.. when is patch 7 going live? I want to map my controller buttons. You know, as this is a console game and it's rubbish with M/K.

 

Have no idea what Patch 7's timeline is... but I doubt very seriously that they will add any keyboard/mouse fixes. I've gotten to the "I'll believe it when I see it" stage when it comes to EA/Bioware anymore. It's absolutely ridiculous that we've waited this long for basic gameplay control functionality to be addressed, and the trolls, apologists and fanbois continue to creep throughout this thread without redress as well.


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I am starting a petition to make Dragon Age 3 the Game of The Year of 2015 too. One year worth of awards do not do justice to this masterpiece of an rpg! And it is confirmed, there is blood magic in the game. Elhanan accepts any apology in name of Bioware, since they themselves knew from the beginning there is no point listening to this thread full of toxic haters and invalid issues.


Can see how those that dismiss the story, plot, and other NPC's might miss details outside of the CC and Main Character. Glad I could enlighten them to what they may have missed....

OT - Focus abilities could possibly use some attention, as they may not be as useful as possible. Wondering if there is any meta-data available to indicate the frequency od such usage in the game.

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Blood Magic? What Blood Magic in DAI?

 

Oh there is blood magic (the wardens story for example) : but it's not allowed to the inquisitor... Inkky is just politicaly correct for the world of Thedas :)

 

JPR out!


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Can see how those that dismiss the story, plot, and other NPC's might miss details outside of the CC and Main Character. Glad I could enlighten them to what they may have missed....

OT - Focus abilities could possibly use some attention, as they may not be as useful as possible. Wondering if there is any meta-data available to indicate the frequency od such usage in the game.

 

Unfortunately most of those you mention will never look back and not only they will not experience this masterpiece in its full glory they miss out on the DLC-s and future Dragon Age games. Some people just cant accept the keyboard and mouse controls. But at least we both know its fine and tactical camera was already good and enojayable the way it was at launch. Why do you think people dont understand the problem is with them, not with Bioware?


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Oh there is blood magic (the wardens story for example) : but it's not allowed to the inquisitor... Inkky is just politicaly correct for the world of Thedas :)
 
JPR out!


Of course Necromancy is simply too sophisticated and PC in current culture. Plus change is so passé....

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@Amplitudelol

oh stahp. my tummy hurts


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Unfortunately most of those you mention will never look back and not only they will not experience this masterpiece in its full glory they miss out on the DLC-s and future Dragon Age games. Some people just cant accept the keyboard and mouse controls. But at least we both know its fine and tactical camera was already good and enojayable the way it was at launch. Why do you think people dont understand the problem is with them, not with Bioware?


Cannot speak for others, but my game works well, too. Lucky, ain't we?