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Unfortunately most of those you mention will never look back and not only they will not experience this masterpiece in its full glory they miss out on the DLC-s and future Dragon Age games. Some people just cant accept the keyboard and mouse controls. But at least we both know its fine and tactical camera was already good and enojayable the way it was at launch. Why do you think people dont understand the problem is with them, not with Bioware?
The Venatori were from Tevinter, which apparently use Blood Magic commonly. Also the whole Warden army possession scheme seemed to be based on it. And the Occularies may have been connected due to the sacrifice of the Tranquil to make them. Etc.
Guess it doesn't count if it does not happen to the Player Character....
LOL. Oh my god.
OK, so after reading the last few pages of comments in this thread, I have come to the personal conclusion that the relationship between us long-standing Dragon Age fans and Bioware has completely gone to hell.
Since Bioware is making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to keep their "old" fan base (and it should by now be very clear to everyone that they really don't even want us around any more) I feel it is time for me to permanently distance and dissociate myself from this horribly rubbish game company.
Besides, they have completely lost the plot with their game design and story choices anyway, so what it the point in sticking around any longer?
This (ex) fan is moving on.
Adios amigos!
There's so many good games around that I think a lot of peope should give up on this once and for all, and give on BioWare because, just like you said, it's obvious they don't care or want us anymore, they're humping console players now. What a sad sad end.
Anyway I'm in the forum because of the DAO section and this thread when I'm bored.
The Venatori were from Tevinter, which apparently use Blood Magic commonly. Also the whole Warden army possession scheme seemed to be based on it. And the Occularies may have been connected due to the sacrifice of the Tranquil to make them. Etc.
Guess it doesn't count if it does not happen to the Player Character....
I had to log in to say that this is the funniest, least convincing post that I've read in this thread.
Wow! Talk about delusion. This is like saying there is cake in the house because:
1. My mother is from France and they make cakes there.
2. There are some crumbs on the floor that could have come from a cake.
3. There is a cake pan in the cupboard.
So there must be cake! Yum!
What a laugh. I mean, I get that some people enjoy the game. I think that's great for them. Personally, I thought it was an average, severely over-hyped game that broke my trust in Bioware. But come on... don't completely lose the tether to reality here, people.
I had to log in to say that this is the funniest, least convincing post that I've read in this thread.
Wow! Talk about delusion. This is like saying there is cake in the house because:
1. My mother is from France and they make cakes there.
2. There are some crumbs on the floor that could have come from a cake.
3. There is a cake pan in the cupboard.
So there must be cake! Yum!
What a laugh. I mean, I get that some people enjoy the game. I think that's great for them. Personally, I thought it was an average, severely over-hyped game that broke my trust in Bioware. But come on... don't completely lose the tether to reality here, people.
I must have missed the part where blood magic was deep and sophisticated, as opposed to just a genre-standard "this magic is forbidden, only the evil wizards use it" thing.
Stop whining, please.
Stop whining, please.
This won't end well...
If one can ignore the story, NPC's, and environments, then I guess there may be a lack of Blood Magic for the Inquisitor. Well, unless one also ignores when it is attempted against them. And the Cake is a lie, or so I have heard....
Can I use Blood Magic as a Mage Inquisitor to bend people to my will? Can I use Blood Magic to take over the spell controlling the Wardens and make them my servants?
Can I use Blood Magic as a Mage Inquisitor to bend people to my will? Can I use Blood Magic to take over the spell controlling the Wardens and make them my servants?
If Bioware put unicorn magic in the game (which is originated from the long forgotten rainbow clan of the unicorn order consisting of speaking intelligent giant and magnificent phosporescent unicorns) people would still find reasons why it perfectly fits the universe of Dragon Age. Either there is blood magic in the game or not all of the discussion of these kind will end up trolling up the place and does not contribute to getting closer to solve the real problem here and fulfill the purpose of this thread: why PC gamers are poisoning Bioware and why cant they simply buy a controller to play this beautiful complex party based PC rpg. Thedas is full of shards to collect and banners to plant, Why do we quarrel over such tiny issues, Why cant we be all at peace and love each other, exactly the same thing your character wants to accomplish in the game regardless of the game being supposedly and rpg?
Oh there is blood magic (the wardens story for example) : but it's not allowed to the inquisitor... Inkky is just politicaly correct for the world of Thedas
JPR out!
What do I find about find about the wardens' tale of woe in DAI so up for "Duh" of the year award? It is that all of them received the calling yet none of them queried why it was happening to all of them at once! These radar systems of Darkspawn presence, the elite cadre of warriors and mages in Thedas are all "suddenly" tools of the Elder One!? Puhleeease!!
Oh almost forgot minus King Alastair of course who is a warden but obviously is too far away to be affected, and the Hero of Ferelden who is pursuing his own agenda having I guess given up his lands and titles in Amaranthine and given the finger to any plans hatched in Weishaupt 10 years earlier
Not that I am aware. However, the context of the discussion was concerning the supposed decline and Political Correctness of the DA franchise. And based on what I am aware, both Blood magic and Spirit Healers are still extant in the lore and stories; could be included in the next DA game.
Good luck with that to everyone. I'm past caring what happens after my latest DA experience with my pc
Can I use Blood Magic as a Mage Inquisitor to bend people to my will? Can I use Blood Magic to take over the spell controlling the Wardens and make them my servants?
No, but you couldn't do either of those in DA:O or DA2, either. (I guess in Origins you would have used Blood Magic to take over the Darkspawn Horde and conquer all Thedas. But you couldn't do that. The option to become the Evil Overlord has never been present in the DA series.)
Can I use Blood Magic as a Mage Inquisitor to bend people to my will? Can I use Blood Magic to take over the spell controlling the Wardens and make them my servants?
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No, but you couldn't do either of those in DA:O or DA2, either. (I guess in Origins you would have used Blood Magic to take over the Darkspawn Horde and conquer all Thedas. But you couldn't do that. The option to become the Evil Overlord has never been present in the DA series.)
A subject debated under another thread. Wardens carry the taint which according to the Warden Mage Avernus in Soldier's Keep is an anathema to demons.If blood magic comes from demons as Avernus asserts then it would not be possible to control wardens using that as a resource. Avernus also went on to prove that it was possible to make the wardens even more powerful using an alchemical formula of which he had produced a prototype with accompanying notes that worked. The wardens in Ferelden then came into possession of the means to increase their own abilities. Soldiers Keep itself (for those that have not played the DAO expansion) became demon infested when Avernus lost control of the demons he had summoned to fight Ferelden troops. The demons killed the wardens and invading Fereldens alike and created undead warriors from their remains. Avernus himself had created a portal through which demons could at will manifest themselves within the boundaries of the Keep where the veil had been either torn or severely weakened by deaths from the siege by the Ferelden monarch's forces
Interestingly enough that fight started because of the attempt by Warden Commander Dryden and her men to change Ferelden's political structure, something strictly forbidden under the warden's own and agreed terms of reference
Regardless, that's not an available mechanic in either game. Anyone who wants to play a Sith, use Force Dominate, and get an ending where they go forth and conquer in an orgy of blood should go play KOTOR again.
Regardless, that's not an available mechanic in either game. Anyone who wants to play a Sith, use Force Dominate, and get an ending where they go forth and conquer in an orgy of blood should go play KOTOR again.
Precisely! You either want to play and embrace DA lore and the limitations imposed on your character within it (for better or worse) or create a different game entirely. If you do the latter you're in the wrong game!
Good luck with that to everyone. I'm past caring what happens after my latest DA experience with my pc
Not that I am aware. However, the context of the discussion was concerning the supposed decline and Political Correctness of the DA franchise. And based on what I am aware, both Blood magic and Spirit Healers are still extant in the lore and stories; could be included in the next DA game.
Could be included in the next one?
They were player options in both the previous Dragon Age games.
What logical reason made them not player options in this one?
This is not "streamlining", "fairness", or simplification ... it's laziness, greed, and hubris.
It's thinking they can give us less AND jack-up the price and we won't notice or care.
Well, a goodly number of us noticed, and we care.
What logical reason made them not player options in this one?
An entirely different approach to healing, in the case of Spirit Healer.
As to Blood Mage, I can't say for certain, but I can imagine hypotheticals. Example: Maybe their player metrics for the previous two games showed that not that many players overall made use of the Blood Mage specialization, so they figured It was safe to cut in favor of something new.
Has anyone asked the development team why the specialization isn't in Inqusition?
Clearly....
As for the DA series, hope we continue receiving more of the Bioware humor and stories, and a return to more Player control over the Main Character concerning Attributes, Weapon and Armor proficiencies, and Abilities during combat.
You know Elhanan, out of all the completely stupid crap you've posted in this thread as a Bioware apologist and your attempts to troll the thread, I have to say this may be the only smart thing you have said to date. It's a decent hope. But I hate to tell you the track record of Bioware this far, I doubt it'll happen. One can wish though.
Clearly....
As for the DA series, hope we continue receiving more of the Bioware humor and stories, and a return to more Player control over the Main Character concerning Attributes, Weapon and Armor proficiencies, and Abilities during combat.
Throw in better story telling, controls, party a/i, and game mechanics and they might have an actual winner.
However, having just finished a second play through of TW2 I believe that TW3 is going to set the bar for crpg's so high that the current crew @ "Bioware" ought to just hang it up now.
They phoned DA:I in and thought no one would notice ... obviously many didn't.
After TW3 that's not going to be an option with ME4 and the next installment of DA ... if there is one.
You know Elhanan, out of all the completely stupid crap you've posted in this thread as a Bioware apologist and your attempts to troll the thread, I have to say this may be the only smart thing you have said to date. It's a decent hope. But I hate to tell you the track record of Bioware this far, I doubt it'll happen. One can wish though.
Come on now Harbinger1975 ...
Elhanan may be a contrarian, but you know he's said plenty more "smart" and thoughtful things than that.
Not that I agree with many of them, but they made me think ...
Have to agree with you about "Bioware's" recent track record and the unlikely event of them correcting their nose-dive into gaming history.
I used Blood Magic frequently in Origins. Awesome against mobs of darkspawn.
Though best thing was Walking Bomb with Leliana as archer. Carnage!!
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