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[Errationatus]

Had he not clarified, I would have done the same having seen someone refer to him as a her and that would set a context in my mind. Clarified now by him and clarified by you here, so now a moot point I'm sure.

 

No sweat.

 

There's nothing wrong with being mistaken for a woman.  I've been privileged to not only marry an utterly remarkably amazing one, but to have known many equally-amazing ones over the years.  The vast majority of what faith I have left in humanity rests solely on their presences in the world. 

 

As I said, Elhanan can offer verbal massages to Bioware's hind-ends all day if that's his thing. More power to him. I don't do conspiracies - those are for people with no imaginations.  He may very well be exactly as he appears - and that's his cross to bear.

[Sartoz]

Man, if you saw what the current beta testing and next "patch" is focusing on... I cant say anything because of NDA. I can only guarantee Elhanan will not be disapppointed in the results because his game is already flawless unlike the ones the others have in this thread, but im not so sure about the people having *not specified because of NDA* issues.

Hm...

Let's see what the tea leaves have to say....

 

1. another exploit fixed

2. some old-gen issues worked on.

3. More MP tweaks.

 

Forget the PC for now.

[Errationatus]

I find it very suspicious that Elhanan has only occasionally posted in this forum. He has been here from time to time. But not in the volume that has appeared in the past few days. Orders from on high? 13,500 posts? How can he even play the game?

Maybe Darrah or others want to close this thread? It can't just be random, What is his agenda? I think any credibility has vanished.

I just wish he didn't clog this topic. But no worries, I just skip his posts anyway.

 

Well, if we're going by longevity, Elhanan's been on this thread longer than I have, if that's anything, pretty much from the get-go, so that's a tad of seniority, as if that mattered. 

 

As to his increased presence, he could just be bored.  The added attention he's getting lately doesn't hurt either - we all have egos. 

 

He only has the impact we give him.  Personally, I have nothing in particular agin 'im. 

 

"An oath of mickle might; and fury shall abate.
Give me thy fist, thy fore-foot to me give:
Thy spirits are most tall."

 

...etc. 

[Sartoz]

As long as the PC version still lacks basic mouse and keyboard functions that I have requested ad nauseam, it's simply not worth investing any more time, effort and money. As it is, my personal optimism for anything coming from Bioware is now completely lost. I'm also questioning if Bioware is actually invested at all in this thread. I know it's moderated, but really... who is actually reading these posts? I get the feeling that this is all smoke and mirrors. This is a Bioware forum, but the employees that need to see this are from DICE. They are after all the architects of Frostbite 3 and should know how to implement something into their own engine. I think we've been duped... 

 

Why are we relying on Twitter? Is that outside of NDA rules? I am curious.

Just a reminder that DICE is a rendering engine and has nothing to do with KB+M controls. proof is

 

source: http://guides.gamepr...de.asp?ID=22326

 

Scroll down for K+M controls.

 

I'm afraid DAI is the one and only one to blame.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

So... they won't fix it. They refuse to fix it. DevSin is right.

 

To them it isn't broken. I've decided no more games for me that come in consoel versions. not worth the headache (and hand aches) from badly designed controls.

[Gundar3]

Good rant

 

 

Holy crap... This is literally the first vid I've seen on youtube about DAI that I can agree with.  I like that he doesn't try to muddy the waters and call himself "objective" by talking about the things he liked.  I can only take so many rants, but it was refreshing.  I'm happy it has over 8,000 views, but its amazing how many likes / dislikes there are.  People  are polarized, but we finally have a voice! 

[Cobwebmaster]

So... they won't fix it. They refuse to fix it. DevSin is right.

I think that's pretty much the conclusion I reached some time back. Apart from EA's general "max out quick buck  and then move on to the next one" approach they are simply not interested in spending money on such things as it is below the line expenditure.

 

Take that for what it is. Me I'm voting with my feet  for EA products and Bioware for the future. That'll hit them where it hurts! The jury's still out on Valve.Not considering putting CDProjekt Red on trial

RIP PC Users 

[Cobwebmaster]

I read the entry. It indicates the top reasons were:

- Didn't rely on colour for any task. (Colour blind)

- Game is extremely forgiving for players that can't play as well similar to narrative difficulty settings in other games (fine motor skills/reflex issues)

- Fine details were not necessary to complete tasks (visually impaired)

- Subtitles (Hearing impaired) 

 

And my personal favourite: 

In addition, this title also included extensive  controller customization which ensured that fine-motor impaired gamers would have full access to the world of Thedas.

 

 Where is this customization for the PC users of the game? A few pre-determined keys to be re-mapped but this game is actually more limited in this capacity than not only every other PC game released in the last 5 years, but every single BioWare title released since 2002. 

 

Considering the complains from many of the people here specifically regarding disability accessibility, this award looks to be worth about as much as the pre-release GOTY awards. Costly to obtain and not representative of the whole experience. 

It was nice to see Deus Ex: Human Revolution in a top 5 list... and interesting to note that SWTOR is in the same list, considering swtor's accessibility in controls has been mentioned and that it puts DAI to shame.... 

 

Just wanted to add my personal endorsement to this analysis as I have a hearing problem and normally wear aids which I can't using earphones. Also lost my colour perspective and sight integrity following a diabetic bleed sometime back. The hearing deficiency was caused by continual shooting in competitions, and a swimming accident which perforated my eardrums. I don't use speaker systems when I play using a monitor to keep harmony in my household. I retired from work in 2002 due to medical problems and also have "fine motor impairments?" Whatever I haven't detected any benefits emanating from such exalted perks as you mention

I play on easy or normal mode so I can see the b..'s coming and until  DAI  came along I always had great fun. Standing in the middle of a herd of scampering Halla miles from anywhere while searching for a trinket by a river I can't swim in isn't that 

[Amplitudelol]

Holy crap... This is literally the first vid I've seen on youtube about DAI that I can agree with.  I like that he doesn't try to muddy the waters and call himself "objective" by talking about the things he liked.  I can only take so many rants, but it was refreshing.  I'm happy it has over 8,000 views, but its amazing how many likes / dislikes there are.  People  are polarized, but we finally have a voice! 

 

Ive played far too much WoW to trust in reasoning of people in gaming. I am not suprised at the like/dislike ratio. But DA3 is one of the biggest contradiction ive seen to be honest. It has nothing to do with the gameplay of the original series but i can see how it is appealing to COD children and Elhanan. I can hardly call it rpg but if you dont like rpg-s you can still enjoy it. The story is poor as ****, the characters are one dimensional and far too politcally correct but there are epic scenes because of great music and graphics that brings you great movie-like experience. But people defending the pc control of the game should not be engaged because they dont even comprehend its the direct consequence of the game being a damn port. Its one thing to try something different with the series and fail (not being even able to finish the game you promise so stuff is missing and the game feels empty... Which again does not noticeable for the casual gamers) but there are no pro/contras to the lazy after-thought control scheme for an AAA game. Even this hack-n-slash game could have been good with mouse and keyboard if they tried to make it good.

 

And there is the multiplayer. It is shallow as the single player campaign, there are no game modes or anything, most simplisitic dungeon roaming. If i want good dungeon roaming, gold farming i play an mmorpg or Diablo 3  but again for casual people it can be great fun. People on beta forum are very eager to test bioware's newest ****, they fall again into the category "not even engage". Some even bought the game for this multiplayer . And they like it xD.

[JPR1964]

Hm...

Let's see what the tea leaves have to say....

 

1. another exploit fixed

2. some old-gen issues worked on.

3. More MP tweaks.

 

Forget the PC for now.

 

Another useless patch that will not reach my game...

 

If I care about exploit : I know enough of computer programming to make my own cheat if I decided it...

 

Sure this is nice to fix exploit when some of us feel that more time should be used to correct real problem, and I even don't talk about kb-m controls...

 

JPR out!

[Morroian]

As another poster mentioned, there is a couple methods of playing SWTOR. Mine is to use the WASD keys for movement while holding the Mouse key to drive the character. DAI can be done the same way, but adds Pause and Tac-Cam features. And I played SWTOR for quite a while before departure (ie; three capped class PC's).

 

There's more to playing like another game than the ability to map some keybinds to the same controls. For all the faults of the engine swtor is actually pretty fluid in its combat and movements, DAI feels clunky in comparison especially for melee classes. And there is a key difference anyway, the ability in swtor to hold both mouse buttons to move. 

[Tortugueta]

I think Elhanan is making reference to my post (even though I'm apparently officially on 'ignore') wherein I refer to him (now that I know) as a 'her', utilizing an old habit of mine, wherein if I don't know the gender of any particular poster, I default to 'her'.  Some tend to assume that the poster is a male.  I like to pretend the world is full of just women. 

 

I like women. 

 

Sue me.

 

It's not remotely personal, but hey, persecution complexes are free.

It's also worth noting that what is considered a "personal attack" greatly varies depending on who you are talking to. Example:

 

"OMG you s*ck d*ck LOL mofuka if you were dumber you'd be born dead yo LOLOLOL" would amount to a personal attack in my book.

 

Example two:

 

"What you just said is plain b*llsh*t" does not amount to a personal attack in my book.

 

It is a personal observation of mine, anecdotal evidence at best, I know, that in american circles political correctness has reached a point where it is virtually impossible to have a human discussion with anyone, and by human I mean with emotion (you know, that thing that sets us apart from robots). I think in Europe (specially the south, where I'm from) we are more lenient towards occasional displays of anger and indignation and are capable of dealing with them without muting someone when he or she dares call out our crap for what it is, regardless of how highly we think of our own crap.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Disclaimer: this post is not intended to offend or attack anyone, but everybody is, of course, free to feel offended or personally attacked as they please.

[line_genrou]

Ive played far too much WoW to trust in reasoning of people in gaming. I am not suprised at the like/dislike ratio. But DA3 is one of the biggest contradiction ive seen to be honest. It has nothing to do with the gameplay of the original series but i can see how it is appealing to COD children and Elhanan. I can hardly call it rpg but if you dont like rpg-s you can still enjoy it. The story is poor as ****, the characters are one dimensional and far too politcally correct but there are epic scenes because of great music and graphics that brings you great movie-like experience. But people defending the pc control of the game should not be engaged because they dont even comprehend its the direct consequence of the game being a damn port. Its one thing to try something different with the series and fail (not being even able to finish the game you promise so stuff is missing and the game feels empty... Which again does not noticeable for the casual gamers) but there are no pro/contras to the lazy after-thought control scheme for an AAA game. Even this hack-n-slash game could have been good with mouse and keyboard if they tried to make it good.

 

And there is the multiplayer. It is shallow as the single player campaign, there are no game modes or anything, most simplisitic dungeon roaming. If i want good dungeon roaming, gold farming i play an mmorpg or Diablo 3  but again for casual people it can be great fun. People on beta forum are very eager to test bioware's newest ****, they fall again into the category "not even engage". Some even bought the game for this multiplayer . And they like it xD.

 

EA and those devs that sold their souls to EA really accomplished what they wanted to. I hope  they enjoy their casuals and multiplayer whores for as long as they stick around, which won't be long because they are fickle.

As it was said, they lost 1 loyal fan and gained 10 more fickle casual or multiplayer whores. Good for them. It fits the "profit now" mentaility Errationatus mentioned. I wonder for how long BioWare can keep that going.

[Arne Saknussemm]

Do you reckon they mention the hair for a reason LOL

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=WfGFU2XPLr4

 

[Rylor Tormtor]

711 pages. Nice.

 

Anyways, peaking back in (after my second playthrough of PoE) to see if Bioware has even attempted to fix any of the train wreck of the PC version of this game (I will be fair, it is only a train wreck in my opinion, other people may love it, so be it). Has Alan showed up with his inexplicable surprise at some people's reaction recently? 

 

So any changes of the control front re: click to move/move on attack sort of things?

[Sartoz]

To them it isn't broken. I've decided no more games for me that come in consoel versions. not worth the headache (and hand aches) from badly designed controls.

Hmm...   sins of over simplification or dumbing down the game's controls?

 

The game is awkwardly playable but not what I expected for 69+tax dollars.

[Sartoz]

711 pages. Nice.

 

Anyways, peaking back in (after my second playthrough of PoE) to see if Bioware has even attempted to fix any of the train wreck of the PC version of this game (I will be fair, it is only a train wreck in my opinion, other people may love it, so be it). Has Alan showed up with his inexplicable surprise at some people's reaction recently? 

 

So any changes of the control front re: click to move/move on attack sort of things?

 

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Don't bother getting your hopes up.  There is no value, to EA/Bio , in spending time and resources to re-engineer a proper PC UI.

[Sartoz]

I think that's pretty much the conclusion I reached some time back. Apart from EA's general "max out quick buck  and then move on to the next one" approach they are simply not interested in spending money on such things as it is below the line expenditure.

 

Take that for what it is. Me I'm voting with my feet  for EA products and Bioware for the future. That'll hit them where it hurts! The jury's still out on Valve.Not considering putting CDProjekt Red on trial

RIP PC Users 

 

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LOL!

 

You don't know how bad the graphics are until you play on an old-gen console. The link is below... scroll down to see the pics.

 

source:http://forum.bioware...x-these-issues/

[Errationatus]

It's also worth noting that what is considered a "personal attack" greatly varies depending on who you are talking to. Example:

 

"OMG you s*ck d*ck LOL mofuka if you were dumber you'd be born dead yo LOLOLOL" would amount to a personal attack in my book.

 

Example two:

 

"What you just said is plain b*llsh*t" does not amount to a personal attack in my book.

 

It is a personal observation of mine, anecdotal evidence at best, I know, that in american circles political correctness has reached a point where it is virtually impossible to have a human discussion with anyone, and by human I mean with emotion (you know, that thing that sets us apart from robots). I think in Europe (specially the south, where I'm from) we are more lenient towards occasional displays of anger and indignation and are capable of dealing with them without muting someone when he or she dares call out our crap for what it is, regardless of how highly we think of our own crap.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Disclaimer: this post is not intended to offend or attack anyone, but everybody is, of course, free to feel offended or personally attacked as they please.

 

Hey, I agree with you, but for some folks any disagreement is a personal attack.

 

Attack their beliefs and you attack them.  Say their position is idiotic and you say they are, especially when their position is idiotic.  They can't distinguish that an 'argument' and a 'fight' are not remotely the same thing.  One is between two thinking persons trying to establish a reasonable conclusion or at least come to an understanding. 

 

The other is, well, BSN.

 

I at least give Elhanan the dignity of mentioning him by name. I don't coyly allude. I say it outright or I don't say it. I run the risk one of the overly-sensitive mods will come mincing in with their indignant moral hammer to save y'all's delicate sensibilities from my sinful words, words, words.  I don't go whining to them unlike some.  Nor do I act like some childish little ballsack and put him on 'ignore'.  My list is empty.  My ego isn't that fragile.  Of course, if reality is never allowed through the door, you are free to live with your happy ponies and under your apricot-scented purple skies.  No need to be wadin' down here in de slime wi' th' rest of us animals, e'special whens y'all's better'n us.

 

Some of us need our illusions... and I think we've stroked his little ego enough for one week.

 

I've got better things to do, like wait with bated breath for the next fabulous patch and the oh-so-worth-it Black Emporium.  Witcher-killer, that.  You wait'n'see.

[TobyJake]

I like that!

Witcher-killer. LOL

[Elhanan]

There's more to playing like another game than the ability to map some keybinds to the same controls. For all the faults of the engine swtor is actually pretty fluid in its combat and movements, DAI feels clunky in comparison especially for melee classes. And there is a key difference anyway, the ability in swtor to hold both mouse buttons to move.

Being able to rebind the keys helped me to avoid almost all of the launch day complaints I read. so of course I am pleased. And while SWTOR has another method of gameplay for users, the controls I was using were not as smooth as DAI. But as mentioned, I highly favor pause and Tac-Cam interrupts.

[DragonsDream]

...I highly favor pause and Tac-Cam interrupts.

so does pretty much everyone else here. and that means click-to-move and bindable mouse buttons.You "favoring" pause & tac-cam doesn't make you special or give you some "in" as far as using the DA:I control scheme.

[Tortugueta]

 

 

I at least give Elhanan the dignity of mentioning him by name. I don't coyly allude. I say it outright or I don't say it. I run the risk one of the overly-sensitive mods will come mincing in with their indignant moral hammer to save y'all's delicate sensibilities from my sinful words, words, words.

 

 

 

Just to clarify, I was not referring specifically to Elhanan in my previous post, but rather to overly zealous moderators in a few forums I visit every now and then.

 

It does not bother me at all that whatever you say, no matter how innocent you think it is, there is someone in this planet ready to crawl out of their cave and feel offended by it. What does bother me though, is when overly sensitive moderators can't accept that some of us would say "what you said is bullsh*t" rather than "I respectfully point out that your previous sentence does not follow logically from a commonly accepted set of axioms", or something lame along that line.

 

EDIT: just to clarify again, I have had no problems at all with the moderators in this forums specifically.