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so does pretty much everyone else here. and that means click-to-move and bindable mouse buttons.You "favoring" pause & tac-cam doesn't make you special or give you some "in" as far as using the DA:I control scheme.


Guess it does, as I am able to play hundreds of hours without severe hand pain and frustration resulting in rage.

As for Click to Move; miss it, but as I do have other games that have never had it, have enough experience to manage more than adequately (eg; Skyrim). Cannot speak to binding Mouse controls yet; have only recently acquired such gear, and still do not have the reflexes to use them adequately.

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Just to clarify, I was not referring specifically to Elhanan in my previous post, but rather to overly zealous moderators in a few forums I visit every now and then.
 
It does not bother me at all that whatever you say, no matter how innocent you think it is, there is someone in this planet ready to crawl out of their cave and feel offended by it. What does bother me though, is when overly sensitive moderators can't accept that some of us would say "what you said is bullsh*t" rather than "I respectfully point out that your previous sentence does not follow logically from a commonly accepted set of axioms", or something lame along that line.


Personally choose to report the possible offense, and let the mods sort it out, as per the ToS. In the example, the offense may not be a personal attack, but apparently does try to circumvent the filters for vulgarity.

And the Ignore feature works well; still allows one to view posts, or skip them as desired. This is also recommended on the ToS.

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Guess it does, as I am able to play hundreds of hours without severe hand pain and frustration resulting in rage.

As for Click to Move; miss it, but as I do have other games that have never had it, have enough experience to manage more than adequately (eg; Skyrim). Cannot speak to binding Mouse controls yet; have only recently acquired such gear, and still do not have the reflexes to use them adequately.

 

Elhanan, by your own admission you spend the majority of your ingame time in pause. Of course you don't have problems, you're taking a lot of breaks and approach combat as if it was chess. Some of us would like to finish the random fight against patrolling mobs in less than 15min though. And that is when you notice that basic features like a "select all" button is missing because consoles don't have mouse pointers to use such an UI. That is when you notice that the information from the TacCam is lacking. That is when you notice that you are fighting against the AI of your companions as much as against the enemies. Unless you micromanage every single action.

 

Holding RMB the entire time you're running would put a strain on everyone's hand, it's no surprise that changing it to toggle was one of the first mods. I could list a dozen other issues but they appear multiple times in this thread already.

 

I can't understand people who argue loudly against contrary evidence and be condescending to players who do have have issues because they don't experience any problems themselves.


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I don't get the RMB to move the camera complaint. Didn't we always have this since DAO?



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Elhanan, by your own admission you spend the majority of your ingame time in pause. Of course you don't have problems, you're taking a lot of breaks and approach combat as if it was chess. Some of us would like to finish the random fight against patrolling mobs in less than 15min though. And that is when you notice that basic features like a "select all" button is missing because consoles don't have mouse pointers to use such an UI. That is when you notice that the information from the TacCam is lacking. That is when you notice that you are fighting against the AI of your companions as much as against the enemies. Unless you micromanage every single action.
 
Holding RMB the entire time you're running would put a strain on everyone's hand, it's no surprise that changing it to toggle was one of the first mods. I could list a dozen other issues but they appear multiple times in this thread already.
 
I can't understand people who argue loudly against contrary evidence and be condescending to players who do have have issues because they don't experience any problems themselves.


Am guessing many here also like Tactical play, or all the PoE praising is only for show. And while the latter may be better implemented (will likely never know), DAI allows for this style. As advertised. And I do not play chess either.

BTW - The Tac-Cam info gathering feature in DAI works well, and is enjoyable, too.

As for 'select all' feature, there is a Hotkey for combat to Attack the same target; comes in handy somewhat frequently. While for looting, this option may be missing, one is not exactly in the heat of combat at that time as a rule, so I can wait for some harvesting mod or fix at a later date.

It seems that we notice different things; funny that.

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Just to clarify, I was not referring specifically to Elhanan in my previous post, but rather to overly zealous moderators in a few forums I visit every now and then.

 

It does not bother me at all that whatever you say, no matter how innocent you think it is, there is someone in this planet ready to crawl out of their cave and feel offended by it. What does bother me though, is when overly sensitive moderators can't accept that some of us would say "what you said is bullsh*t" rather than "I respectfully point out that your previous sentence does not follow logically from a commonly accepted set of axioms", or something lame along that line.

 

EDIT: just to clarify again, I have had no problems at all with the moderators in this forums specifically.

 

I didn't think you were referring to him, but he's a damn good example.  Passive-aggressive needling and that "well, shucks, I just can't understand the endless persecution I suffer by being so reasonable.  I mean, gee-whiz, it's only my opinion and I can't be responsible if you blind a-holes are just mean-spirited when it comes to Bioware's perfection.  Gosh."  He's got it down pat.  The mods never see him and he slithers and envenoms and no one's supposedly the wiser.  Suuuuure.  Whatever.  He can play his game all he likes.  It's his time.

 

In a lot of fora, the mods tend to be the biggest buttsucks, then given "powah!" and turned into little zealots of propriety and decorum as if a hundred 14-years-olds have two clues what either of those are.  I've been in a few where even the slightest word against the company got you banned for three days and watched the entire time you were back.  I never usually bothered to go back.  Eventually it was just the mods snarling at each other in an echo-chamber.  This place is a tad better than that. 

 

Here in the good ol' BSN - or whatever they call it now (it'll always be BSN to me), it's more illiteracy than any actual zealotry, although that doubtless exists. My favourite mod was back in the old BSN, on the Talitard fanatic thread.  Even the mod wouldn't tolerate the slightest dissent against the bestest sweatiest quarian numbnuts evah!  Impartial asshattery at its finest.

 

Frankly, I'm surprised Elhanan isn't a mod.  He's got the time, the moral superiority and the devotion to slobbering all over Bioware's collective irrelevancies.  He'd be perfect.  Why ignore when he can just ban and be done with it?  All the chickens clucking the same cluck, all the time, all at once?

 

 

...and I'm still talking about the guy. 

 

No, really.  I'm done this time.


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#17782
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@Errationatus: It's too bad that pointing it out never leads to anything. He likes to rile people up with his seemingly polite, passive-aggressive posts. Technically he's fully within the rules and he reports anything that might be not. The only way to shut him up is to deliver facts that even he can not ignore. So far, I only managed that feat twice.

 

The sheer gall of coming into a thread dealing with an issue acknowledged by BioWare itself and saying "It's not a problem for me, you're doing it wrong!" would be baffling if he wasn't doing that all the time.



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So many fans; so little time for autographs....
 
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#17784
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Being able to rebind the keys helped me to avoid almost all of the launch day complaints I read. so of course I am pleased. And while SWTOR has another method of gameplay for users, the controls I was using were not as smooth as DAI. But as mentioned, I highly favor pause and Tac-Cam interrupts.


Which complaints exactly, out of curiosity?

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So many fans; so little time for autographs....
 
^_^

 

Yes, yes. We know you are the factual and moral authority for everything. After all you are a biblical scholar and a gentleman. You abhor profanity, you disagree with the sexuality/gender themes of DA:I, you dislike violence and you are exceptionally well informed about this game because you read the press releases.

 

We are in awe. Only a person of your steadfast convictions could tell us the truth about DA:I. Your opinion is worth more than any other, because you and you alone are well informed.

 

Hey, remember that time when some kid complained that the for him unplayable and buggy DA:I ruined his christmas and you had to one-up him by bringing up your cancer? My, what a moral victory that was.


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I don't get the RMB to move the camera complaint. Didn't we always have this since DAO?

 

Yeah, it was the same in DAO. Except you could toggle to isometric view and now... and now you have tac-cam which is perfect according to Elhanan. To be honest i used wasd+holding rmb to move and in most of the combat even in dao but you had all the options in "wasd" mode you had in isometric.

 

Now "wasd" is only for "solo" play (you cant assign even the basic things while controlling one character, you constantly need to change character...and the camera follows, and dont have click-to-move so you cantchange back immediately to the other character after assigning the command, you need to walk the character to the destination in wasd, then change back... ridicoulus...), isometric is a scandal. People who dont use tac-cam and did not liike holding down rmb in DAO are now basically forced to do it. If tac cam was what DAO had, rmb moving would not be an issue. The fact Bioware's first and probably last response was to add "free mouse look" or whatever called nonsense means they totally misinterpreted the problem here. It all comes down to the tac-cam.



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Which complaints exactly, out of curiosity?


Ones read on Amazon while waiting for my physical disks to arrive. After re-binding the keys, and practicing the Tac-Cam and gameplay in the tutorial areas, I avoided many of these launch day issues.

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Ones read on Amazon while waiting for my physical disks to arrive. After re-binding the keys, and practicing the Tac-Cam and gameplay in the tutorial areas, I avoided many of these launch day issues.

 

Yeah? Name the issues please.



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Yes, yes. We know you are the factual and moral authority for everything. After all you are a biblical scholar and a gentleman. You abhor profanity, you disagree with the sexuality/gender themes of DA:I, you dislike violence and you are exceptionally well informed about this game because you read the press releases.
 
We are in awe. Only a person of your steadfast convictions could tell us the truth about DA:I. Your opinion is worth more than any other, because you and you alone are well informed.
 
Hey, remember that time when some kid complained that the for him unplayable and buggy DA:I ruined his christmas and you had to one-up him by bringing up your cancer? My, what a moral victory that was.


Mean this thread; let others decide in the full context (Pls check the dates of the posts):

http://forum.bioware...-ever/?hl=worstChristmas

BTW - Am half-way through treatment, have even less hair, and received a good prognosis for the remaining series. Thanks for your support!
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Mean this thread; let others decide in the full context (Pls check the dates of the posts):

http://forum.bioware...-ever/?hl=worstChristmas

BTW - Am half-way through treatment, have even less hair, and received a good prognosis for the remaining series. Thanks for your support!

 

Glad to hear you're doing better.

 

You're still a disruptive element in almost every thread you post in.



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Glad to hear you're doing better.
 
You're still a disruptive element in almost every thread you post in.


Only if one dislikes... how was it phrased... Rainbows and Unicorns!
 
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Ones read on Amazon while waiting for my physical disks to arrive. After re-binding the keys, and practicing the Tac-Cam and gameplay in the tutorial areas, I avoided many of these launch day issues.


OK but what issues and what rebind, specifically?

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Hmm... sins of over simplification or dumbing down the game's controls?

The game is awkwardly playable but not what I expected for 69+tax dollars.


Both really.

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CD Projekt RED is using REDengine 3 which is a beautiful adaptation of Bioware's Aurora engine. You know... a long time ago, they made engines at Bioware. 


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#17795
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Unbowed and Charging Bull don't build threat. (Nor does Block and Slash, but that's far more situational.)

Guard goes hand-in-hand with tanking in the current gameplay design; building threat at the same time is what keeps it balanced. If you just want free guard, you can use fade-touched materials that give you guard on-hit when crafting your armor (at which point, you'll be largely invincible).

 

True that, don't see the reason/need to change it, but farming for those particular materials is a major PITA.



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True that, don't see the reason/need to change it, but farming for those particular materials is a major PITA.


While I cannot recall whether my first character had it or not, my Mage had enough to make three sets, I believe. Some may farm and enjoy it, but personally prefer to use what is obtained (unless console commands are available *cough* Skyrim).

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Elhanan, would you answer the questions please? :)



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If by losing some the 'loyal fans' that enjoy posting here, am guessing they will weather that storm....

 

I think I don't just talk for myself when I say that we're here cause we are fans. When will you understand that we "whine" here because we care very much about Bioware and Dragon age?

 

I want Bioware to be the best that they can be, that is why I point out flaws and try to change their point of view on the direction they're taking their series. We who care this much are promoters and I thought I wouldn't pre-order DA:I after DA:2 and ME:3 but I did anyway because I was naive enough they also cared about us. This is just not consumer friendly anymore and enough is enough.  


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CD Projekt RED is using REDengine 3 which is a beautiful adaptation of Bioware's Aurora engine. You know... a long time ago, they made engines at Bioware. 

Too bad that skill set left the studio...


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Elhanan, would you answer the questions please? :)

He's trying to parse the words in the question to come up with a non-answer.... he did that to me.


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