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[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

 

I posted the below in the "Absense of Bioware Reps." topic almost a week ago, and temporarily refrained from reposting it in this topic, but Cyanide Claw pushed my buttons again with his poison... Trying to shut down an opposing viewpoint by using "troll", "fanboy" and "Bioware operative" labels to discredit any contrary opinions.

 

I looked at this topic one month ago wondering why it was still active, and was shocked by the vitriol I saw.  I also was annoyed with the implication that 95% of PC players disliked DAI when the reality appears to be closer to 50% positive versus 50% negative.  I want to see DA4 not be cancelled because of venomous opinions

 

The majority of posters in this thread don't "Get It" and only want to silence any opposing viewpoints in this thread.

 

The only thing I "Don't Get" is how some people prefer DA2 over DAI ...

 

 

GithCheater, on 28 Apr 2015 - 11:49 PM, said:

 

The "PC Commmunity Concerns topic in the Announce Section has some good constructive criticism, but the last 3 weeks of that topic also has a lot of venom:

 

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SNIPPED out quotes  from the "Absense" thread.

 

 

 

 

DA4 is not going to be cancelled due to venomous comments on the internet. If that were true, ME4 and DA3 would not have been started. So if that is what concerns you about this thread, then you can relax and let the venom flow (seriously, it's going to anyway).

 

The only reason ME4 and DA4 would be cancelled is because of poor sales in the franchises, which doesn't seem to be the case.

 

I don't think DA2 was a better game than DAI FTR. Not by a long shot. it just had better PC controls.

Modifié par Shinian, 03 mai 2015 - 09:00 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Yes, especially on the Storm Coast and the Western Approach; both appearances were quite epic, IMO. Also the one in Crestwood was rather enjoyable, too.

 

I thought they looked cool. The only quibble I had when I first saw them is the head looks too big for the body. But this was in pictures before release. They looked fine in person.

[GithCheater]

I guess that is where we differ. I don't see venom, vitriol or posters wanting to shut down opposing views from the people who are having actual pc concerns. I see passionate people who love the DAverse having real pc issues and just want to be heard and want Bioware to fix the issues. Not all of us are wordsmiths, working our sentences so that Jane Austen herself would be proud (I sure am not).
I think you will read into what people write what you are expecting.

I can only speak for myself I would like Bioware to succeed and make DA4 as well as ME4. I absolutely love the DA and ME verse.
As I have posted continually, I actually like the game and was just playing it a few moments ago and will continue a bit later. However, I would like Bioware to fix some PC issues.
What is frustrating is when people come on this thread and say things like "you need to adapt" "venom", "hostile" there is no need for that.
I understand you want this thread to terminate, others probably do to but you know it does serve a purpose for those of us who are still experience pc issues to discuss together. Is that wrong?

I loved DA2 by they way it had a great story and Fenris

 

 

I do not want this thread to terminate, but this thread does contain hostility (which I documented in another thread).

 

It is not wrong to have this thread, and most of it is constructive.  I would never have entered this thread if not for the emotionally charged content of some posts.

 

I also felt that DAI was not as bad as being portrayed in this thread.

[Archerwarden]

I loved DA2. The combat was very fun and the repetitive backdrops never really bothered me. I do see how people could find fault with it, however, I never did. I also just cared more about the characters and what was going on (perhaps because I was a human noble in Origins, and so my family was murdered - before I really cared about them), I felt like my Warden had nothing else to lose. 
 
DAI has rendered itself virtually unplayable. At least for me. The controls are counter-intuitive and the combat is clunky (melee is just plain dreadful). The art style is easily the worst in the series, at least for me.
 
I think I still prefer DAO over DA2, however, as far as I'm concerned DAI isn't even close to either.

you know I didn't even notice the repetitive environments until possibly the 5th or so PT. I was so involved in the story. And the backflip rogue was fun. Both games I also cared more about my companions but also the quest givers and other people.
Am hoping thought the next DLC will have more of that feel in it.

[Elhanan]

I thought they looked cool. The only quibble I had when I first saw them is the head looks too big for the body. But this was in pictures before release. They looked fine in person.

When I first saw Dragon vs Giant on the Storm Coast, was very impressed, but then was equally taken with the physical destruction seen on display when one got closer to it later. And the appearances before the quest and then later in the Western Approach were terrific; only wish this had been a more formidable example of the beasts.

[GithCheater]

DA4 is not going to be cancelled due to venomous comments on the internet. If that were true, ME4 and DA3 would not have been started. So if that is what concerns you about this thread, then you can relax and let the venom flow (seriously, it's going to anyway).

 

The only reason ME4 and DA4 would be cancelled is because of poor sales in the franchises, which doesn't seem to be the case.

 

I don't think DA2 was a better game than DAI FTR. Not by a long shot. it just had better PC controls.

 

I do not actually believe that DA4 will be cancelled, but I am concerned about the long term viability of the DA franchise and the possible effect of venomous comments and the DA/Witcher "wars".  I may be being somewhat irrational, but I believe my opinion is still valid.

[GithCheater]

you know I didn't even notice the repetitive environments until possibly the 5th or so PT. I was so involved in the story. And the backflip rogue was fun. Both games I also cared more about my companions but also the quest givers and other people.
Am hoping thought the next DLC will have more of that feel in it.

 

I got tired of playing in Kirkwall 6 times each playthrough (3 acts with day/night "areas").  I also could not get into the 1st act (why go to Deep Roads other than a far-fetched chance of riches), and I was tired of Hawke being a powerless victim along for the ride.

[Archerwarden]

I do not actually believe that DA4 will be cancelled, but I am concerned about the long term viability of the DA franchise and the possible effect of venomous comments and the DA/Witcher "wars".  I may be being somewhat irrational, but I believe my opinion is still valid.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Wasn't DAI very successful in sales? I think you are placing too much importance on discussions and emotions within this thread on the viability of a product. If the sales tank, productions costs and operating costs overrun revenue then there may be an issue. But discussions among players/customers having that kind of power? And I don't believe there is even 1 person who has posted who actually wants that for Bioware. Truly emotions and passions running high.

Kind of like if Jane Austen wrote a sequel where Fitzwilliam Darcy divorces Elizabeth leaves her penniless, Jane's husband refuse s to help her and she is cast out of society to make her own way and on top of it Lydia and Wickham become the epitome of grace and kindness. That backlash would be strong, passionate!

[Archerwarden]

I got tired of playing in Kirkwall 6 times each playthrough (3 acts with day/night "areas").  I also could not get into the 1st act (why go to Deep Roads other than a far-fetched chance of riches), and I was tired of Hawke being a powerless victim along for the ride.

Oh I am a huge deep roads fan and its never enough! Valammar is one of my favorite areas in DAI.

Yes, I understand. Hawke was more reactive than proactive. Not so much a hero as the Warden. It was more a personal story about family.

[TobyJake]

I do not want this thread to terminate, but this thread does contain hostility (which I documented in another thread).

 

It is not wrong to have this thread, and most of it is constructive.  I would never have entered this thread if not for the emotionally charged content of some posts.

 

I also felt that DAI was not as bad as being portrayed in this thread.

I also don't think DAI is terrible. It is a very flawed console port though.

With regard to hostility, saying the thread is hostile is a 'generality'. It lumps everyone with a "hostile" flag.

I have been on this thread since before 19 Nov 2014. I keep reading it because of the people involved.

You would be of great service if you were more specific. Call out those who are hostile so that you do not label us all with the hostile brush.

My posts may have highlighted areas that I disagreed with, I certainly didn't attack for the sake of attacking.

I do stand behind what I posted though.

[Vash654]

Any status on patches for fixing pc controls, features, etc?  I've stopped checking here... and pretty much given up hope.  could be the first 60 dollar game ive purchased and never played

[Elhanan]

Any status on patches for fixing pc controls, features, etc?  I've stopped checking here... and pretty much given up hope.  could be the first 60 dollar game ive purchased and never played

Several, though some concerns still remain. Here are the Patch notes:

http://blog.bioware....on-patch-notes/

[Bethgael]

So, now that Edmonton is helping out the Montreal Studio with ME4, do we still have anything to worry about?  I'd say no, if the Edmonton Studio keeps its mitts off the PC UI

 

Go check out the pictures from Nov 7 day last year. One of the pics is a bloke checking something on his PC using a gamepad. ME4 will be a similar mess on PC, imo. Unless the ME4 team learns something from all of this.

[GithCheater]

Hey Githcheater, put me on IGNORE.  Also, I can fairly say that I don't burn down anyone with their opinions. It's when trolls like you throw in your two unwanted cents about someone else's opinion. 

I do not use the ignore function. This "fanboy / troll" will throw in my two unwanted cents, particularly when an opposing viewpoint is so easily dismissed by insults.

[GithCheater]

I also don't think DAI is terrible. It is a very flawed console port though.

With regard to hostility, saying the thread is hostile is a 'generality'. It lumps everyone with a "hostile" flag.

I have been on this thread since before 19 Nov 2014. I keep reading it because of the people involved.

You would be of great service if you were more specific. Call out those who are hostile so that you do not label us all with the hostile brush.

My posts may have highlighted areas that I disagreed with, I certainly didn't attack for the sake of attacking.

I do stand behind what I posted though.

 

There are only a handful of posters in this thread I believe to be hostile to any opposing viewpoint (or "EA-Ware").

 

You are NOT one of those posters.

[DragonsDream]

There are only a handful of posters in this thread I believe to be hostile to any opposing viewpoint (or "EA-Ware").

 

You are NOT one of those posters.

"hostile to opposing views"? you mean like when someone says "X is a problem" and someone like you comes here, into a thread specifically designed for people to point out problems, and says "X isn't a problem for me. Stop being hostile." You mean that kind of dismissive? You can't possibly mean when the first person tells you to stuff it for dismissing their problem, because that would be hypocritical right?

[DragonsDream]

There are only a handful of posters in this thread I believe to be hostile to any opposing viewpoint (or "EA-Ware").

 

You are NOT one of those posters.

Except their are no "opposing views" here. If I say something is a problem, there is no counter to that. You don't get to say "no, it's not a problem because I don't have that problem" because it most certainly is a problem for me. For you to say otherwise is to be dismissive of me and belittling and absolutely will engender hostility towards you and your "opposing view"

[correctamundo]

Well at least you didn't say 'moving forward'. The direction Bioware took is a backward direction from DAO and even DA2.
Not much of what you just posted made sense. Jump on space works for you that is because you prefer it- did you not understand that? Not every PC player wants that setup but of course if it works for you then it should for everyone right?

<shakes head>

If your not having pc concerns yourself - exactly why are you in this thread?

 

You are right. It is not that I prefer jump on space, or don't have a problem with it. It is just that they had to put it somewhere and chose space. My guess would be because it seems common out there. I probably did not make it all to clear. I believe they made that choice because they felt that it would help most players out there.  The reason for not being able to remap the mouse like some are stating would of course be nice to know. I actually came to the thread to learn something about the controls, how people out there do thíngs etc but found the most popular thing was to post a BW promovideo and calling them liars, cheaters and basically a bunch of dishonest people.

[correctamundo]

Oh you decided to replay Origins?

 

Tsssk, DA2 actually. I just finished a DAO up till Witch hunt and will carry a new worldstate over into DAI. =)