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[Elhanan]

Perhaps they simply find that the rest of the game is good enough that issues they have with the controls are worth fighting through.

After all just because you dislike one part of something, doesn't mean that you dislike the whole.

Perhaps, but I have strong doubts. It may be trite, but Haters gotta Hate. It appears to be the case here often enough, at least.

As for replay value in DAI, it is rather high for me. Still have storylines to explore, characters to hear, varied choices to make, etc. And I care; I really care....
 

[Amplitudelol]

No! The people on the internet are still wrong, i cant let them!

[Elhanan]

Not all of the peeps on the internet are wrong; simply a lot of them that post here....

[Sylveria_Relden]

Not all of the peeps on the internet are wrong; simply a lot of them that post here....

 

Just... wow. I don't even think I need to define how arrogant this statement is, it simply speaks for itself.

[Drantwo]

Just... wow. I don't even think I need to define how arrogant this statement is, it simply speaks for itself.

He's right though. Most of his own posts are wrong

[Amplitudelol]

Not all of the peeps on the internet are wrong; simply a lot of them that post here....

 

But how do you make them understand that there is nothing wrong with the controls?? None of your post worked.

[Elhanan]

But how do you make them understand that there is nothing wrong with the controls?? None of your post worked.

Some seem to forget those that have not returned here; those that were able to correct their problems and continue play. Or others that were grateful and moved along to brighter realms. As for myself, I stay because I care....
 

[GithCheater]

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Nice attempt at a diversion using the word "enjoyment" to negate a player's view of poor counter-intuitive KB+M controls.

 

I have three characters going... the controls still suck and no amount of "but you must enjoy the game to play with three chars" fixes that crappy PC design.  

 

I am not negating anyone's critical comments of the KB+M controls.  I am stating that the substandard controls do not prevent most PC players from enjoying the game. 

 

The large amount fetch quests, the lesser amount of dialog (500,000 words for DAI compared to 800,000 for DAO) and the substandard pc controls, are insufficient flaws to prevent DAI from being a good enjoyable game for the large majority of PC players.

 

One stating dislike for DAI yet having multiple playthroughs seems disingenuous to me.

[Amplitudelol]

Some seem to forget those that have not returned here; those that were able to correct their problems and continue play. Or others that were grateful and moved along to brighter realms. As for myself, I stay because I care....
 

 

Yeah, accepting the fact that the fault is with the individual players not the game is hard to swallow. All this unnecessary hate towards BW instead of simply coping or buying a controller... Such is the world of pc gamers i guess. Even in its perfect form as it is people will always demand better control scheme, inventory system, etc. optimized specifically for keyboard and mouse. Some impossible and absurd thoughts they have dont they? I hope they get what they want (though what they want is totally unreasonable) but you put 600+ hours into the game, which means its good and we could not ask for better for the next installment of the series.

[Archerwarden]

Okay I'll bite here ...
One can have multiples PTs and still not like some or many aspects of a game.
One can abhor the pc controls and still have 1 or more PTs
Once can not like the pc controls but love the rest of the game and have 1 or more PTs.
One can love every aspect of the game and only have 1 PT.
One can love every aspect of the game and have multiple PTs.
One can not like the PC controls but like some/all of the rest of game and still play 1 or many PTs.
One can like the game and only have 1 PT.
One can enjoy the entire main storyline and not like the rest of the game and still have 1 or more PTs.
One can only enjoy the companions and not like the rest of the game and still have 1 or more PTs.
One can only like the environment and not like rest of the game and still have 1 or more PTs.
One can be critical of many aspects of the game but can still play more than 1 PTs.
Or One can like/love the game and only play half of the game.
And Hey its a Bioware game so one can only play for the romances and absolutely hate every other aspect of the game!


Once can have many different combinations of the above plus any unlimited number of combinations not listed.

Get my drift here?

Each person has their own reasons for what they do. Many people are not strict black and white thinkers. Many people are much more complicated than that. Why is this difficult to understand?

[line_genrou]

Elhanan loves DAI so much how come he is always here and not playing his beloved game?

He's more busy defending the game than actually enjoying it. That's why I think he's either one of the devs or a EA drone. Paid to troll and derail the thread (as everyone knows they hire people for that)

 

Either way, he's not gaining anything by being here. He's talking to a bunch of people that won't change their minds about this game and I doubt new people are following this thread so they can be persuaded into buying it.

[GithCheater]

And Hey its a Bioware game so one can only play for the romances and absolutely hate every other aspect of the game!

 

 

Really???

 

It would be so much easier to avoid self-inflicted aggravation and go to YouTube to view the romance plots.

[Archerwarden]

And to post on topic

I'd very much like to see a click to enemy and follow through please.
Also please add more skill slots at the bottom.
Please add the ability to bind more mouse buttons.
Any chance of correcting the A and D keys so I can bind them? Each patch changes the animation and now it is back to the same animation as Q and E.
Vivienne in addition to thinking she is the most powerful mage and the best fighter continues to run into melee. I would very much appreciate a fix please. You did a great job fixing my Varric so fixing Vivienne should be pretty easy.
sometimes drag and drop on the inventory screen doesn't work and the click on unequip is kind weird on a pc. It would be great to be able to drag items to and from the character.

On the good side:
Patches 5 - 7 corrected the banter and IB glitch. Its is so nice to be able to hear the banter - I can't believe how much I missed so Thank You so much. Talking to IB and getting the scene with his Chargers was fantastic. Great scene there. Thank you.

[Archerwarden]

Really???
 
It would be so much easier to avoid self-inflicted aggravation and go to YouTube to view the romance plots.

yes really there are people out there who do play just for that. Maybe you are one of them?

[Karnax]

Still waiting for that patch that makes it the "PC game made by PC gamers". No matter what any drone says that never happened but that was definitely said. I literally limped through this game with a broken control scheme, playing something other than what I was expecting. It had it's merits but I have simply given up on Bioware now. It doesn't matter any more though, there are other companies that are doing the things Bioware said this would be. I have merely a loss of an interest in a particular franchise. Obsidian, InXile, CDPR and the others have it covered. Bioware have their legacy but now they're just EA easy money.

[GithCheater]

Elhanan loves DAI so much how come he is always here and not playing his beloved game?

He's more busy defending the game than actually enjoying it. That's why I think he's either one of the devs or a EA drone. Paid to troll and derail the thread (as everyone knows they hire people for that)

 

Either way, he's not gaining anything by being here. He's talking to a bunch of people that won't change their minds about this game and I doubt new people are following this thread so they can be persuaded into buying it.

 

How many playthroughs do you have?

[GithCheater]

yes really there are people out there who do play just for that. Maybe you are one of them?

Yep.  I have  completed all the romances.  I am now trying to romance Vivienne because I hate the PC controls. 

[Bethgael]

Not all of the peeps on the internet are wrong; simply a lot of them that post here....

 

Your statements, thus far, stand in contravention of what Bioware themselves "think". As in: some of us are in a beta programme in an attempt for Bioware to address the things they know are wrong with the game. Not perfect, but they know there are things, listed in this thread, posted by a "lot of us that post here" (much of which you have disagreed with) that must be addressed.

 

Your arrogance is astounding.

 

@Archerwarden: OMG your banter bug is fixed? I cannot tell you how good that is to hear. Still some people with it, but after 50 hours+ of testing banter in the P6 beta, it's good to see it's "getting there" for some.

 

Also, re: "Vivienne in addition to thinking she is the most powerful mage and the best fighter continues to run into melee. I would very much appreciate a fix please. You did a great job fixing my Varric so fixing Vivienne should be pretty easy."

Viv is a Knight Enchanter ("melee mage"). Spirit Blade is a melee ability. Not optimum (I rarely use her because of it) but it is "working as intended" for her to keep getting herself squeeshed.

[Archerwarden]

@Archerwarden: OMG your banter bug is fixed? I cannot tell you how good that is to hear. Still some people with it, but after 50 hours+ of testing banter in the P6 beta, it's good to see it's "getting there" for some.

Bethgael,
I know I am thrilled! Its so amazing how much better the game is with the banter! And added plus is Iron Bull is fixed so though I'm still at Crestwood I am looking forward to his quest.

I do see though people are still having problems. I have some hope now that it will be fixed for all and with the Beta Testers help hopefully soon.

"50+" hours of testing? Thank You. that's a lot of time to put into it.

[Archerwarden]

Also, re: "Vivienne in addition to thinking she is the most powerful mage and the best fighter continues to run into melee. I would very much appreciate a fix please. You did a great job fixing my Varric so fixing Vivienne should be pretty easy."

Viv is a Knight Enchanter ("melee mage"). Spirit Blade is a melee ability. Not optimum (I rarely use her because of it) but it is "working as intended" for her to keep getting herself squeeshed.

Hey Bethgael,
I just reread this. I didn't realize that. what a dunce I am! Is there a way to keep her out of melee or at least to keep her from dying? . Spirit blade I have it enabled but not preferred- maybe I should put it on disabled?.


Ah then also the ranged AI is fixed for me. Dorrian, Solas, Sera, and my Varric work well now at range.

Thank you !

[TobyJake]

This place will be like tomb in two days time.

Can't wait

[CatatonicMan]

Now that sounds needlessly rude. People will play through the game for the story despite the controls. What "problem" are you suggesting they have?

Masochism?

[Keldaurz]

Masochism?

Let me get this straight, the argument made is that controls "aren't bad" because "X person played Y hours" ?

Don't you see the flaws of such argument?

 

You never finished a book or a series because of being invested into it, or a game because you paid for it. Or you can't accept that while imperfect, other things of the game balanced it enough to make it a somewhat pleasant (while uncomfortable at times) experience ?

 

I played Skyrim, and i would liked to have a few words with the person who decided to port the console interface into the PC (and Bioware seems to have hired the f... i mean great dude).

 

Everything seems to be black or white for people nowadays. I didn't like it, it's crap. I liked it, it's godsend. No, there is always room for improvement, and in the PC UI and controls there is a lot of room of improvement when you designed solely for gamepads. And that's pretty much a fact, and while i can understand people prefering it, i can't understand how you get a word in what i should prefer.