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[TobyJake]

To Dubya and JPR!

AZERTY kb's are the norm in Europe. That's where people use diacritics in common typing. Cedila's, graves, acutes and so on.

Haven't seen a russian (cyrillic) kb but that would be quite different to US/EN kb I guess.

To hard code certain keys and not take into account common kb layouts is a HUGE oversight!

JPR has every right to get upset over this.

This is not console port complaining, it's a crippling mistake, What if you bought DAI and the dialogues and text were all Russian? It is that sort of scale.

[Jackal19851111]

Isn't CDPR in Poland?

[GithCheater]

Isn't Poland in Europe?

[chrstnmonks]

Isn't CDPR in Poland?

Yes it is.

[Elhanan]

Im not going to say if you are wrong or right. Its a more complicated design choice, a very significant one especially in case of mmorpg-s how much of the game should be considered as side stuff in addition to the main game. Inquisition's main game is VERY short. I like the farming aspect and doing full completion stuff, i played the excell game with WoW. Its just people who regularty play single player games and not used to this kind of entertainment pretty understandably will despise it. Its a DA game and even if you have this "open world", i guess a lot of people expected a long story. The side content does not make up for the short main attraction. There is too much mmorpg in the game, some like it, some dont. Ive read negative comments about it even from console players and even from professional actual game developers.

Perhaps, but as we have also seen, many praise the game design. Personally, I like the solo MMO style, though maybe not every title. Am guessing that the next DA game will return to something the size of DAO since DA2 was the smallest, and DAI was so large. As for those that speed game to finish the title as quickly as possible, guess I have very different objectives.

[DavianBurke]

JPR, your frustration is understandable, but I am wondering if you tried the fix I suggested 2-3 pages ago that would allow you to play your game without waiting for a patch? I know it isn't ideal, but it could very well allow you to enjoy the game you purchased without waiting for a patch. 

And without needing to use a controller. <--- See, even the preferred console input is trolling us. 

[Jackal19851111]

Yes it is.

 

Maybe Poland is the one European nation without a preference for AZERTY keyboards lol

[JPR1964]

JPR, your frustration is understandable, but I am wondering if you tried the fix I suggested 2-3 pages ago that would allow you to play your game without waiting for a patch? I know it isn't ideal, but it could very well allow you to enjoy the game you purchased without waiting for a patch. 

And without needing to use a controller. <--- See, even the preferred console input is trolling us. 

 

@Davian,

 

Sorry, I forgot you : thanks, but I have already uninstalled the game... I've read somewhere that they will certainly adapt the game to directx12... I will try it again at this time : with all dlc and all the fixes.... And perhaps a new GPU...

 

 

JPR out!

[DragonsDream]

Maybe Poland is the one European nation without a preference for AZERTY keyboards lol

AZERTY are used primarily in France & Belgium, which are just a small part of Europe. Quebec uses them as well. Other countries with diacriticals and accented letters (such as the Scandinavian languages) use a modified QWERTY.

Poland, Germany and most other Central European countries use QWERTZ (which simply swaps the z and y on the left and adds/replaces special characters on the right compared to QWERTY)

 

Regardless, hard coding any keys should be enough to send any programmer to the penalty box.

[correctamundo]

Maybe Poland is the one European nation without a preference for AZERTY keyboards lol

 

Northern Europe is qwerty =).

 

Well, modified as noted above, but that is on the right side mainly.

[DragonsDream]

Northern Europe is qwerty =).

 

Well, modified as noted above, but that is on the right side mainly.

Poland is considered central Europe and use QWERTZ not QWERTY

[Amplitudelol]

Perhaps, but as we have also seen, many praise the game design. Personally, I like the solo MMO style, though maybe not every title. Am guessing that the next DA game will return to something the size of DAO since DA2 was the smallest, and DAI was so large. As for those that speed game to finish the title as quickly as possible, guess I have very different objectives.

 

It clearly does not concern you but probably the next one will be built for consoles too, therefore it will still not utilize the full cabability of a mouse and keyboard. As i said before if the game itself is good enough i might buy a controller for it. Problem is the whole concept of commanding a party with a lot of spells and positioning is not very appealing for controller gameplay, so why would i bother? I dont know about that but seems unlikely for me that console players use much tac-cam anyway and since it was built for them the pc version is a disaster. (if you compare it to the isometric system Origins had)

 

On the other hand id buy a game solely for a good story with memorable characters if the control is not the main antagonist. I loved the **** out of ME3 - except the ending of course, port or no port.

 

But the MMO stuff has to go or at least the quality should be up to date. Even mmo-s do cutscenes and some talking stuff.

 

Spoiler

I wish for an RPG with the caliber of Arx Fatalis. When you get flour, get some water in one of your bottle, get a rolling pin and light a campfire with a spell drawing the right runes in the air with your mouse, buy a bottle of wine and collect some apples to make your own pie for your adventures for healing or if your character becomes hungry. But yeah, thats just a wishful thinking, the hardcoreness died out a long time ago . When you can kill almost anyone if you desire to and that might bite you back later. When you need to make wooden stakes so you can thrust it into zombies and they wont be able to resurrect a few seconds after killing them. That kind of things were cool. And of course puzzles. Not like Inquisition's touch 4 pillars in the right order. WoW has better than this. And im not a grandpa, im 23. I also like CoD, just dont want RPG-s to slowly turn into it. Also does Inquisition have at least a day/night cycle? Ive played a long time ago, sorry if it has, but i remember when i played Gothic 1 at night people went to their homes to sleep and you could kill them for their valuables and if a guard was not nearby you got away with it . Another thing was in Gothic, at lvl1 when you drew your weapon everyone told you to get the hell out or youll be smashed, but at the end when you drew your weapon (in the open world) npc-s started panicking and if you stared at them long enough they ran away in fear . Those kind of things make a good rpg fantastic. Inquisition lacks the big and the small things, full of mmo nonsense, a 10, max 15 hours long mediocre lackluster story mode.

 

Obviously english is not my native language, my grammar sucks big time, i know.

[Finoderi]

It doesn't matter how big or small will be next DA-game, I won't buy it anyway. True Bioware is dead. DA-series is dead. I don't want to see desecration and necrophilia that new guys doing anymore )

[Hurbster]

Don't recall; never had to rebind the mouse. And my Tac-Cam works fine with KB&M, so have no idea if a controller is better or not. However, am still glad DAI has Tac-cam and Pause; some other games don't have the options.

Oh right, forgot it was you I was having a char with. For most people it is convenient to rebind common actions to the extra, unused mouse buttons. So you don't have to constantly use 'v' or you can set autorun easily.

 

Simple QoL stuff.

[Hurbster]

Also,

 

http://windows.micro...ayout-to-azerty

 

Just follow those to add qwerty keyboard layout instead of azerty.

 

Annoying but will do until they fix it.

[Elhanan]

Oh right, forgot it was you I was having a char with. For most people it is convenient to rebind common actions to the extra, unused mouse buttons. So you don't have to constantly use 'v' or you can set autorun easily.
 
Simple QoL stuff.

For Search, I now use 'Tab' as I have done with many past Bioware titles. While I own some gaming gear, my lack of reflexes makes using things like controllers and other twitch items a bit more problematic. This is also why the Pause function is desirable.

[correctamundo]

Poland is considered central Europe and use QWERTZ not QWERTY

 

Yeah I know, I  was referring to northern europe ;-)

[Amplitudelol]

To Dubya and JPR!

AZERTY kb's are the norm in Europe. That's where people use diacritics in common typing. Cedila's, graves, acutes and so on.

Haven't seen a russian (cyrillic) kb but that would be quite different to US/EN kb I guess.

To hard code certain keys and not take into account common kb layouts is a HUGE oversight!

JPR has every right to get upset over this.

This is not console port complaining, it's a crippling mistake, What if you bought DAI and the dialogues and text were all Russian? It is that sort of scale.

 

I live in (Cen)Europe and never in my life have ever seen an azerty keyboard. In fact im typing this with a controller in my hands since its so standard pc accessory nowadays.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

heh, another crappy console port...

 

i actually expected that. well then, time to grow up i guess. gaming is dead

 

seems appropriate

[DragonsDream]

Yeah I know, I  was referring to northern europe ;-)

you were replying to a post about Poland.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Poland is considered central Europe and use QWERTZ not QWERTY

it's qwerty, never seen qwertz in store. wth?

[DragonsDream]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

 

and it looks like QWERTY has been dominant in Poland for a couple of decades now

[Innsmouth Dweller]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

 

and it looks like QWERTY has been dominant in Poland for a couple of decades now

whaaa? i had QWERTY in my C64. but, hey, it was ages ago  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sunnie]

Oh right, forgot it was you I was having a char with. For most people it is convenient to rebind common actions to the extra, unused mouse buttons. So you don't have to constantly use 'v' or you can set autorun easily.

 

Simple QoL stuff.

Lets also not forget that most modern mice (and some keyboards) can be programmed by their supporting software.

I had all 4 of my thumb buttons working for various functions from day one, before key rebinding was improved in the game through patches.

It's ironic how a lot of people forgot that they can do that, and then spent months moaning about how bad the controls are.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Lets also not forget that most modern mice (and some keyboards) can be programmed by their supporting software.

I had all 4 of my thumb buttons working for various functions from day one, before key rebinding was improved in the game through patches.

It's ironic how a lot of people forgot that they can do that, and then spent months moaning about how bad the controls are.

gaming is not a priority for me. i use PC for work. i don't own a gaming mouse and i don't plan to. as i don't plan to ever own controller. your logic is flawed