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#1
Matrixwoot

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Seriously... its not that bad

 

I found that remapping search to E and Pause game to space works well for me.. I just made jump V.. I havent had to use tactical view yet but you can just scroll your middle mouse button to get that screen.

 

Also when in combat you just hold down the left click button and then hold W and face the enemy ( YES GET IN RANGE FOR MELEE).. I dont see why this is so hard for people? I prefer K/M over the Controller

 

I think a stick button would be nice.. I played DAOC so these controls feel the same :)

 

 

Learn to play.. its different then the other 2.. it takes a little more patience but once you learn it.. its fun as hell


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affliction

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I haven't had any issue with the default K&M controls, once you play for a bit you get used to them easily.



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Funny i thought they weren't that bad either and i played DAOC.

 

Should all be remappable bindings though including mouse.  Minor inconvenience though.



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Lennard Testarossa

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...I'm not trying to control one character, I'm trying to control every single action of four characters simultaneously. Action rpg controls are not suited to that.


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They don't make the game unplayable, and you can get used to them after a while.

 

but they're still clunky and should be fixed.

 

Also I find that using the mouse for attacks makes target swapping even clunkier. I much prefer using R instead.


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I only get mad at the Tactical mode. It's absolutely ridiculous. Used my X360 controller just to give it a try and it's much better. But I just can't play a RPG game on controller so I switched back to K/M. 



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my issue is not controls, but tac cam

 

I aklso donèt like how scrolling out put on tac cam

 

I also HATE HATE HATE that switching characters unpauses the game



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I was upset at first, but after a few hours of remapping controls and coming to terms with the loss of tactical gameplay, I am okay with it.

 

I think that's the real issue.   Once you accept the fact that tactical combat is lost from the Dragon Age franchise, then you can start to realize the game is a lot of fun as it is.   Enjoy the click fest game and it turns out to be alright.


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I don't really hate it at all.

Maybe it's because I try to play it like a new game instead of a Dragon Age game.

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Sylvius the Mad

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There is no fun to be had in a click-fest. I will play this game in tactical mode or I will not play it.

I lasted only 10 minutes in The Witcher with its click-to-attack system. I absolutely will not click to attack.
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glosoli

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Can we use extra mouse buttons as well?



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...I'm not trying to control one character, I'm trying to control every single action of four characters simultaneously. Action rpg controls are not suited to that.

The worst thing is no option to order movement via mouse in normal mode - you have to go tactical to do that, which is annoying.

The rest I really don't mind - 'attack my target' button is really cool and is a batter option than having to constantly select everybody in DA:O and DA2.

 

I'd say there are several steps forward, and several steps backwards. The final result is debatable - but the game is challanging on Nightmare, and unlike DA2 it's challanging in non-frustrating way. 



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bmwcrazy

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There is no fun to be had in a click-fest. I will play this game in tactical mode or I will not play it.

I lasted only 10 minutes in The Witcher with its click-to-attack system. I absolutely will not click to attack.


Haha, you got that right.

I actually play it like a dumbed down Witcher.

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Sylvius the Mad

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Can we use extra mouse buttons as well?

No. It's not possible to remap the moyse buttons, or map other commands to extra buttons.

No atypical control schemes allowed.

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No. It's not possible to remap the moyse buttons, or map other commands to extra buttons.

No atypical control schemes allowed.

 

Wow.. A tyranny over mapping? Why did the devs made such a meaningless move I can never understand.



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The keyboard controls are fine. You can do most things with just the keyboard. I was far away from a door and opened it by pressing F. The door was highlighted, so I opened it. It worked.

 

I like that you can press tab to cycle between enemies.

 

What does G do? It's supposed to be auto-run. seems like I'm running all the time. (I prefer running).

 

And to close a rift, I just press F. EASY.



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Sylvius the Mad

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The keyboard controls are fine. You can do most things with just the keyboard.

Assuming you have the use of both of your hands and don't have a baby on your lap or anything.
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Kb+m is fine, it's just the tactical combat that's badly mapped. Key bindings is there to help you, just an inconvenience is all.
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I also HATE HATE HATE that switching characters unpauses the game


What???

That has not happened to me. Maybe because I turned auto-pause off or something.

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The Loyal Nub

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I'm having no problem with the default K&M settings. Getting pretty used to them. 


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You need to play more ports with terrible KB/M controls before you go calling these bad. It's flawed, but it's mostly ok. Main problems are:

 

1. Can't remap mouse buttons.

2. No walk button (problem for some)

3. No auto attack (not strictly a KB/M problem, but an annoying control design decision.)

 

Otherwise, you can bind every ability to a key and there is no mouse deceleration. That is light years ahead of many console ports. So, glass half full or half empty.

 

What does G do? It's supposed to be auto-run. seems like I'm running all the time. (I prefer running).

 

It lets you run without holding down the direction key.



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my issue is not controls, but tac cam

 

I aklso donèt like how scrolling out put on tac cam

 

I also HATE HATE HATE that switching characters unpauses the game

 

I haven't noticed the latter, but tactical view works pretty much the way it did in DA:O. I think it zoomed out a bit further, but it activated the same way, and it was about as useful (as in, not very.)



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I also HATE HATE HATE that switching characters unpauses the game

 

This is also making me a little annoyed.  Unless I'm just doing something wrong?  I don't know, it's weird.

 

Also, the controls aren't terrible.  They're annoying, and it's constantly annoying trying to click on an NPC and then shoot lightning bolts at his face instead.  But I'm getting used to it.  


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I found that remapping search to E and Pause game to space works well for me.. I just made jump V.. I havent had to use tactical view yet but you can just scroll your middle mouse button to get that screen.

 

Also when in combat you just hold down the left click button and then hold W and face the enemy ( YES GET IN RANGE FOR MELEE).. I dont see why this is so hard for people? I prefer K/M over the Controller

 

Remapping 'Search' to E?  Why do you have to hit a keyboard button for something you should be able to just click on with the mouse?  You are making an excuse for something that's unnecessary.

 

Same concept for your description of combat.  What's the difference between clicking on the target to attack it?  It wouldn't make the game any easier or harder.



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Matrixwoot

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Remapping 'Search' to E?  Why do you have to hit a keyboard button for something you should be able to just click on with the mouse?  You are making an excuse for something that's unnecessary.

 

Same concept for your description of combat.  What's the difference between clicking on the target to attack it?  It wouldn't make the game any easier or harder.

 

Its different and we just need to get over it until its modded.. I find it challenging and fun.. if you wanna walk around and see half the world glowing thats your call. I like listening to the tone of the dings and searching for what im looking for. 

 

As far as combat I think it feels more real.. to have to manually move towards your target and attack.. Clicking and auto running to it just gets old after awhile.. this makes it more interesting and more involved.. but thats just my opinion