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[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Yeah, It is taking a while for information to start hitting websites. I guess many just did not have the game beforehand at all, and we need to wait till people who are so inclined start adding this data to wikis etc. I didn't take detailed pictures and so on when I was going through this to contribute to those sources. 

 

Somehow I never ran into these issues in the other Bioware games although I purchased them at launch.

 

Now that could be because DA:I is so much larger, and there is so much more to do. Or it could be bad design choices, confusing mechanics, and a UI that doesn't quite do it's job of imparting information to the player.

 

For example, finding people would never be a problem in DA:O, since I could hold the TAB key and see small hovering white text above everything around me that was important for me to interact with. So in DA:O I suspect you could stand in the courtyard, and press TAB, and see the names of requisition officers.

 

In an MMO, you might see icons above their heads so you know you can talk to them, or they would appear on your map as little icons when they move.

 

DA:I has none of that necessary feedback for the player, so they either have to spend a lot of time searching ( and as this thread shows never finding) key parts of the game that they need to advance. 

 

So this could be because of how much bigger and better DA:I is...or it could partially be due to bad design decisions for an RPG. 

 

Yeah, I've been slowly trying to add stuff to the Dragon Age Wiki that I use but I'm not very good at explaining stuff, so I myself mostly just revert vandalism, correct spelling errors, or blatant errors (like once a guy was convinced that because Aveline married Donnic in all of his playthroughs, he kept deleting "Possible Husband" from Aveline and Donnic's pages and just making it 'Husband' We kept reverting it, we told him on his Talk page why he needed to stop, I think finally the admins had no choice but to IP block him (though not sure, I just know he finally stopped even though it didn't seem like he was going to.)  Then I also add data on DLCs and such, like for example I created the page and uploaded a photo for the new Avvar Mixed Mount (available from Raptr.  It's a horse with white and red warpaint and a cool barbarian head barding.)  Basically those times when it's okay to directly copy from the game, like the description of the mounts, I can do that but explaining in my own words how to do a quest? Nah, it'll be a mess if I do it hehe.

[errantknight]

I'd be fine with it taking some work to find the stuff, but I can't get that far. The trainers seem to be bugged. They simply aren't there to talk to in the first place. Unlocked at the war room and did the cutscene 4 times in an effort to get them to show up and no luck. Restarted the game and it didn't help. 

[peda2411]

Hello

I'm searching the book for the "champion" specialization.

Where can i find that book?

I guess there also are no quest markers for the other ingredients?

Is there anywhere some kind of overview about all the specifications and what they are effect?

[Paric]

Same as with all other specialization books it should be somewhere near the companion that has that specialization(in your case that wud be Blackwall-guessing here since i didnt play warrior jet but i assume its somewhere in the stables in Skyhold where hes located so check the entire building), if you didnt recruit him jet or no longer have him as member of inquzition than the book merchant in the capital will sell it.

[xcrstfallenstrx]

One of the few flaws in this game is unlocking the specializations, they really screwed it up.

 

They should just simply let them unlock at a specific level. I cannot find the book to unlock necromancy anywhere.....so I gave up. When you look forward to something in a game and eventually turn away from it in frustration that is not good for the game and indicates there is a problem with their design.

 

Seeing the number of threads about specializations it appears I am not alone.

 

 

I don't think knocking a games design because you can't figure something out is particularly fair.  Just because it was difficult for you doesn't mean something is 'broken'. Tips do give you an idea of where to look, characters are clearly marked on the map, and you have your search function available for once you are near them.  Plus, it wouldn't follow DAO if we didn't have to unlock new specializations.  I will say that I didn't enjoy having to hunt down lazerite, but the books were easy.  I learned a lot about skyhold while wandering around and locating my party members 'designated space'.  Now I know where everything is and don't get lost.

 

On a sidenote:
I've discovered that if a party member has something to say to you, or a quest, etc., they might not be where a guide will say they are, and the item may not be where it should be. 

 

For me, at first Vivenne was in the courtyard, and I had already found Dorian's book in the library, so I wandered over to her to ask her for the book instead, and a cutscene chat started.  Right afterward, she disappeared and was in 'her room', and the book was there. Food for thought...

[Wolfen09]

Found the assassin book without even realizing it, right next to cole... found it while exploring skyhold.  As for the assassin's weapons you have to find, i found all of them in specific spots in crestwood... and no you dont have to drain the lake first.  Deathroot is a plenty in the western approach.

 

The only issue im having with specializations is that not all of them are unlocking for my companions.... cole is the only one that hasnt unlcoked so far and im lvl 16...  hes so far got decent approval rating so i guess i just have to get that up more for some reason.

[peda2411]

(in your case that wud be Blackwall-guessing here since i didnt play warrior jet but i assume its somewhere in the stables in Skyhold where hes located so check the entire building)

Thanks a lot.

I've one more question.

In what area i can find the 3 pieces of "destillation ingredient".

(I hope it is rigt translated because i play in German an there it is called "Destillationswirkstoff")

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Thanks a lot.

I've one more question.

In what area i can find the 3 pieces of "destillation ingredient".

(I hope it is rigt translated because i play in German an there it is called "Destillationswirkstoff")

 

Hmmm, ok no that's a weird translation, but what you want is...

 

Spoiler

Duel 3 champions for heraldry (located at Ghilan'nain's Grove, Halin'sulahn, and the Desolate Bank of the Exalted Plains).

[Dinocelson]

Artificer: near Varric
Assassin: near Cole
Tempest: near Sera
Champion: near Blackwall
Reaver: near Iron Bull
Templar: near Cassandra
Knight-Enchanter: near Vivienne
Necromancer: near Dorian
Rift Mage: near Solas

 

Source:http://segmentnext.c...s-quests-guide/
 

[Iceman87t]

I only have 2 wisp essense and i have went to all 3 points in the map mulitple times (i have already completed missions in area before) i cant find anything but fire and spirit essense in other regions... its frustrating trying to find a piece a loot that i dont know where to find? please help someone?

 

All i need to get the specialization is one more wisp essense... I cant find it anywhere in the fallow mires and i also have taken down many of the rifts in the other regions hoping for a pure wisp to drop one with no avial... not sure what to do because ive already completed all of the fallow mires missions and im level 17... still lost trying to find one more wisp essense

[slick_ktm]

Like I said, it's not there. I think that's only if the person is not in your Inquisition.

The templar book is in Cassandra's room , the building next to her location in Skyhold. Up the stairs after you enter the building (where you "spend time" with her if she is your romance).

 

You can read all the specializations book from your companions. 9 specs across 9 companions.

I had a bug with Reaver spec from Iron Bull , im sure i've read it but it was still stated in quest log that i need to find the book. Maybe the same happened to you ? You picked it up but didnt realize that was it and the quest log was bugged.

 

Its not a problem , you can check your requsitions , every specialization has the requsition item you must craft , so if you have the writings you should see it in that menu (even tough quest log says you dont have it). When you craft your item and give it to your trainer you will get your spec no problem.

[OriginalTibs]

Well I'm gonna assume it's a bug then. Because the only people in the infirmary right now are lysette and the surgeon...

Make sure you also accepted the specializations report after the mission has run at the wartable.

[Flog the Undying]

Well I'm gonna assume it's a bug then. Because the only people in the infirmary right now are lysette and the surgeon...

 

Try the upper level, on a tower near cullen.

 

When entering Cullen's office, tgurn left and go all the way to the end and they should be there.

[Flog the Undying]

Make sure you also accepted the specializations report after the mission has run at the wartable.

 

They don't always appear in the infirmary. I think it may depend on what class you are. Mine were stood on a rampart.

[Capeo]

They don't always appear in the infirmary. I think it may depend on what class you are. Mine were stood on a rampart.

This. Mine were down near the stables. Every spec is different. Just go to the map and check all floors for 3 quest markers clumped together.

[SandiKay0]

Mage by the surgeon
Rogue by the barn
Warrior up on the rampart.

[sch1986]

If any of you are looking for the book merchant in Val Royeaux: if you look at the map there are two merchants in the small courtyard area that branches off the main area of Val Royeaux. There's a city guard standing near some stairs. Go up the stairs and head all the way to the back. There's a door to your left. The book merchant table is directly On the right side next to the window.

[Ashagar]

Well I'm gonna assume it's a bug then. Because the only people in the infirmary right now are lysette and the surgeon...

 

It depends on the specialties they don't go to the same areas, the mage specialists hang out around the surgeon in the courtyard near the gates while the warrior specialist hang out on the battlements and I am not sure where the rouge specialists go in Skyhold after they arrive.
 

[teks]

All older games were like this with the obscure hints and absolutely no help in the game. Back then the internet sucked too. Now a days its all spoon fed to us. Go to this point, hit A, GG.

 

Its hard to find a balance between spoon-feeding, and being too obscure for the player to figure out on his own. I've played some old RPGs like secrets of mana only because I read walkthroughs, otherwise I would have been blind, but at the same time I hate modern games that feel like giant interactive tutorials.

 

Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is, its not poor design. Its just a tricky formula to balance. In this case, with the specializations. It would have been nice to have a little stronger hint on where to look for the specific ingredients. On the other hand, I haven't had much trouble googling how to do any of this.

[Ryzaki]

Found the assassin book without even realizing it, right next to cole... found it while exploring skyhold.  As for the assassin's weapons you have to find, i found all of them in specific spots in crestwood... and no you dont have to drain the lake first.  Deathroot is a plenty in the western approach.

 

The only issue im having with specializations is that not all of them are unlocking for my companions.... cole is the only one that hasnt unlcoked so far and im lvl 16...  hes so far got decent approval rating so i guess i just have to get that up more for some reason.

 

Take him outside.

 

That usually works for me.

[enchiladaaaasyum]

I've had this issue as I read the book before gaining the quest, and accidentally cleaned my inventory and sold it, unable to obtain it again. I found that reading the codex under the history category worked. Then I was able to complete the quest and become an assasin.

[Shya]

Well I'm gonna assume it's a bug then. Because the only people in the infirmary right now are lysette and the surgeon...

Each class has different place where the trainers stand. Mage is in bottom courtyard, Warrior is up above the barn on battlements, and rouges r standing next to the well to the left of the barn.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Not sure if this helps anyone, but whether this is a bug or intentional, you may need to use the book last after you complete the other requirements. I had to use Vivienne's book a second time when I was unlocking Knight-Enchanter because reading it before I had acquired all the materials didn't register as complete.