20 hours with absolutely no side content (meaning no talking to companions or advisors, or anyone else) seems fine to me.
DA:O was probably a similar length if you did the same thing.
Finished my last DA:O playthrough after ~25 hours, did only very few sidequest (Just wanted to play return to ostagar with Loghain)
So you're spot on
Point is moot. I'm not playing some crappy tes game and I'm not in it to hunt buffalo and do other random crap for 300h. I'm in it for characters plot and meditative. This is bioware.You can beat Morrowind in 10 minutes. Means nothing in the end.
The main part is complexity level, if its done on normal this is totally worthless talk because OP is not valid. Skipping videos and beelining story on normal is not indicator. Op should be ashamed to post such claims. Correct judgment is the experience game provides if you do not skip yourself.
Heck another person could tell that the story is 25 minutes because he didn't played, skipped it and watched 25 min walkthrough video on youtube.
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If anything normal difficulty should best represent a game's length as average/casual people just play on normal. Also I didn't skip any dialogue, didn't rush ****, don't put words in my mouth. I played on hard, so on normal it would be a little bit shorter even.
How much of the main story is left after getting to sky hold? im 15 hours in and just got it feels like the story is just really starting.
I finished mass effect 1 on veteran from scratch in 4 hours 35 minutes, most playthroughs of that game are around 30-40 hours and I didn't feel that was short.
technically you could finish mass effect 2 in around 10 hours I suspect, however that means doing nothing extra and ending up dead along with all your crew.
mass effect 3 could be done in around 12-15 hours ignoring everything else again involving nothing but the worst possible "ending".
so 15-20 hours is fine will likely take me 50-60 hours to finish when I just play it at my own pace.
you post means nothing OP.
I'm 30 hours and 22 minutes in and I pretty much just got skyhold 2-3 hours ago, so i'm not too worried about the length of the game since i've had enough to do for that long.
i have read one of these types of threads for every BW game that has been released....
you wanna cheapen the experience by bum rushing through it.....SO BE IT.
it takes me 30-35hrs to go through a BW game (ive gotten every game from BW since Kotor) at a casual pace. DLC adds more hours of course. aint much fun just jamming it..
Why would you even think that way?
It seems like a stunning world full of stuff to do.. why seperate Story and "world stuff"
So... I am confused, OP.
You purchased a role playing game - whose natural offerings of side-quests, character interaction, exploration, leveling, and even agriculture - is ALL part of that overall role playing adventure experience. You by-passed all of this, focused only on the main quest, and are concerned that it only took you 20 hours to do so?
I am 17 hours in and I haven't even been able to make it out of the Hinterlands, other than a couple of side quests to gather new party members and Inquisition agents.
If you beat the story in 20 hours, but left behind approximately 60 hours of additional gameplay (middle range of the commonly referenced timeframe for those who have played through it before) - then I fail to see how you have "beaten" the game. Plus, leaving all of the content behind, I guess I can understand why you may feel a little upset about the story not being fulfilling - but then again, you never took the time to make that story any more interesting anyway.
Sounds more like your loss, than BioWare's shortfall.
Seriously pointless post. "Filler" or side-quests are "part" of an RPG! The main quest is pretty much always "short" and if DAI´s is 20 or 30 hours, that is fine and makes me a happy man. I dont get the need to blast through games like this! Especially an RPG. But hey, you´re free to do it, just dont "punish" the game for it.
Think of it this way.
The longer the main story, the more resources that go to develop that core story.
The trade-off is less side content. There are limited resources.
More "main plot" and less "side content" eventually converge to a relatively "linear" plot.
So what you're basically asking for is a linear RPG experience.
That's fair I suppose. But given that DAI is going for a different experience and has advertised it as such, I'm inclined to believe that your complaint isn't really logical. You knew what you were buying.
The side content isn't even wholly irrelevant. You need random quests to advance and grow your Inquisition. There are also many companion quests to pursue as well as random non-main story events throughout the game that you may have missed.
You only needed to do 3 quests in Act 3 of DA2 to finish the game, but doing so would miss the other 9 or so companion/story events. I can say the same for many other games.
As such I find the complaint improperly formed.
games are not really define by their length and i have played two amazing great games that are really short:
1) Last of Us - Best game ever and u can finish it within 10-15 hours without skipping any cut scenes.
2) Stick of Truth - fun and funny game that u can only finish within 10-15 hours.
Strange. Still, Fallout New Vegas for example has a short main quest (if you rush) but the game is HUGE and full of details if you explore everything they offer. So this is not an issue.
It is really amazing. I feel relieved that the game will actually be playable by me. I hated all side quests and exploration (due to combat system) and knowing that focusing on the main story line takes like 50 hours is amazing! Now I can picture myself going through all my 7 plays like in DA:O/A and DA2, but I will have to wait for full and complete guides so that I can focus on the things like without aimless exploration.
There is nothing worse in a game than the "joy" of discovering.
So... I am confused, OP.
You purchased a role playing game - whose natural offerings of side-quests, character interaction, exploration, leveling, and even agriculture - is ALL part of that overall role playing adventure experience. You by-passed all of this, focused only on the main quest, and are concerned that it only took you 20 hours to do so?
I am 17 hours in and I haven't even been able to make it out of the Hinterlands, other than a couple of side quests to gather new party members and Inquisition agents.
If you beat the story in 20 hours, but left behind approximately 60 hours of additional gameplay (middle range of the commonly referenced timeframe for those who have played through it before) - then I fail to see how you have "beaten" the game. Plus, leaving all of the content behind, I guess I can understand why you may feel a little upset about the story not being fulfilling - but then again, you never took the time to make that story any more interesting anyway.
Sounds more like your loss, than BioWare's shortfall.
I purchased an RPG - not an MMORPG. What part of plucking plants, grinding and fedexing constitutes "roleplaying" to you? I have no desire to roleplay a fedex employee or a garbage collector in a fantasy world, but who knows, maybe that's your thing.
Since main story progression requires "power", when EA says it takes 50-60 hours for main story, they're obviously counting the time spent on those activities. That, to me is borderline false advertising.
My someone is full of **** spreading lies sense is tingling!
Seriously i just finished Redcliff and over 20 hours in, the only way OP could achieve what he did is by skipping everything even most dialogue.
So to any potential people thinking of buying Inquisition who may be turned off by what OP posted, don't bother listening to him as he is spreading lies or rushed as fast as he could.
My someone is full of **** spreading lies sense is tingling!
Seriously i just finished Redcliff and over 20 hours in, the only way OP could achieve what he did is by skipping everything even most dialogue.
So to any potential people thinking of buying Inquisition who may be turned off by what OP posted, don't bother listening to him as he is spreading lies or rushed as fast as he could.
I already said that my main story estimation was excluding time spent on fillers.
I purchased an RPG - not an MMORPG. What part of plucking plants, grinding and fedexing constitutes "roleplaying" to you? I have no desire to roleplay a fedex employee or a garbage collector in a fantasy world, but who knows, maybe that's your thing.
Since main story progression requires "power", when EA says it takes 50-60 hours for main story, they're obviously counting the time spent on those activities. That, to me is borderline false advertising.
I made an account strictly to reply to this. Plenilunius, thank you for that feat! Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most, if not all, rpg's have the sort of fetch quests you're referring to? Theres' KOTOR, baldurs gate, baldurs gate 2, fallout 1, 2 and 3, witcher, witcher 2, mass effect 1 2 AND 3, dragon age: origins, dragon age 2 etc. etc.? And if there is no fetch quests at all, then as an another poster mentioned, it would become a very linear experience? And at the moment i'm at 27 hours, and have been focussin gmore so on sidequests at the moment and have found quit ea bit of the sidequests to come close in quality as the main story quests. Not all, but theres a decent amount. To me, not much about the game reminds me of an MMO at all. And while collecting herbs may remind you of an MMO, it's also in the witcher series, as well as TES. So my question is....do you just not enjoy RPG's, or would prefer more linear RPG's such as Final Fantasy 13? I don't mean this to sound insulting at all, I'm legitimately curious. You're most certainly entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else on these forums.
I made an account strictly to reply to this. Plenilunius, thank you for that feat! Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most, if not all, rpg's have the sort of fetch quests you're referring to? Theres' KOTOR, baldurs gate, baldurs gate 2, fallout 1, 2 and 3, witcher, witcher 2, mass effect 1 2 AND 3, dragon age: origins, dragon age 2 etc. etc.? And if there is no fetch quests at all, then as an another poster mentioned, it would become a very linear experience? And at the moment i'm at 27 hours, and have been focussin gmore so on sidequests at the moment and have found quit ea bit of the sidequests to come close in quality as the main story quests. Not all, but theres a decent amount. To me, not much about the game reminds me of an MMO at all. And while collecting herbs may remind you of an MMO, it's also in the witcher series, as well as TES. So my question is....do you just not enjoy RPG's, or would prefer more linear RPG's such as Final Fantasy 13? I don't mean this to sound insulting at all, I'm legitimately curious. You're most certainly entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else on these forums.
If the optional quests were as well developed as the main quests I would be elated. You can't deny that there's a lot more grinding and fetching than the meaty stuff that involves complex choices, compared to say BG1/2. If you think quests are supposed to be simple like that, you have very low expectations for an RPG.
If the optional quests were as well developed as the main quests I would be elated. You can't deny that there's a lot more grinding and fetching than the meaty stuff that involves complex choices, compared to say BG1/2. If you think quests are supposed to be simple like that, you have very low expectations for an RPG.
I don't think quests are 'supposed' to be this way, however thats why they're completely optional. And honestly, there may be a lot fetch quests, while still maintaining a good degree of entertaining/main quests (in my opinion of course), but the main quests and more involved sidequests amount to quit ea bit of time that I feel over compensates for the fetch quests. The fetch quests are fairly easy to complete, and don't take much time while the main story and more involved sidequests (which occasionally lead to more sidequests pertaining to that story arch) take a decent amount longer to complete. It's an added bonus that they actually factor in to the inquisition, as opposed to most games where "collect 10 pelts" and then you recieve a "thank you." At least in this game, you recieve power/influence that helps in long run. Again, this is my opinion and I also respect your opinion as well.
Out of curiosity, what RPG's do you like/prefer?
I'm 12+ hrs in and just got Skyhold, I think the length is ok
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