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Why doesn't engineer get the coolest/best TECH power "Tech Armor"


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pedesh

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Im kind of annoyed about this :(

Other squad members can use AI hacking+combat drone

It appears that the engineers unique ability is cheaper research :/ which is pointless once you've researched everything

I know you can change class but I dont want biotics dammit!

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The Engineer is the only class that can use the combat drone. I thinks its a rather cool power, however im not a fan of wat it looks like.

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Only one squadmate can use combat drone

and beside they had to give the sentinel class something good

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yes but every other class can use combat drone through squad members (yes plural)

Modifié par pedesh, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:26 .


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Engineers get a spammable nuke that immediately takes enemy fire off you.



That's a pretty fair trade.

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Because tech armor does not fit the engineer playstyle of controlling the battlefield like combat drone does. Tech armor makes the sentinel far more of a swiss army knife, as advertised in both games, survivability, tech, and biotics all in one. hope this helped :)

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yeah but the other squad members aren't playable,



so if you wanna use the drone or ai hacking yourself



which does seem a little stupid, but bioware did state that the drone is the super special power so "shrug"

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thecamel5555 wrote...

yeah but the other squad members aren't playable,

so if you wanna use the drone or ai hacking yourself

which does seem a little stupid, but bioware did state that the drone is the super special power so "shrug"

I don't see why people are complaining, each class has a unique power now, that actually is interesting, instead of (for the engineer) just having access to both AI hacking and neural shock at the same time, actually getting an extra gun/ally is far more usefull.

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It seems like they're supposed to let their bot take fire while they throw nukes from behind cover. Sentinel is a little more in-your-face which is why he gets tech armor. I guess devs intended him to be under direct enemy fire more than an engineer -after all, the defining feature of the tech armor only triggers once your shields are depleted.

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Firesteel7 wrote...

Because tech armor does not fit the engineer playstyle of controlling the battlefield like combat drone does. Tech armor makes the sentinel far more of a swiss army knife, as advertised in both games, survivability, tech, and biotics all in one. hope this helped :)


Yes but engineers should get the best TECH stuff, it just makes sense

For that matter adepts should get charge

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adepts getting charge would be silly... the point of the vanguard is to get up front and shotgun people. adepts jumping to the front lines would be a terrible idea

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pedesh wrote...

Firesteel7 wrote...

Because tech armor does not fit the engineer playstyle of controlling the battlefield like combat drone does. Tech armor makes the sentinel far more of a swiss army knife, as advertised in both games, survivability, tech, and biotics all in one. hope this helped :)


Yes but engineers should get the best TECH stuff, it just makes sense

For that matter adepts should get charge

For one thing tech armor is a replacement for barrier I think, and getting another ally who takes all the hits and is a good destraction can be just as good as being a tank, if that is how you want to play. Onto the adept thing, Adepts are biotic masters with PHYSICS, yes charge is sort of physics related, but it is too high risk for adepts, who most likely stay back, instead of being in your face without a shotgun, a must for any in your face action

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pedesh wrote...

Yes but engineers should get the best TECH stuff, it just makes sense

For that matter adepts should get charge


Adepts don't get charge for the same reason engineers don't get tech armor: they're squishy. Charge and tech armor both encourage the player to rush in to combat and take the opponent by storm. Adepts and engineers aren't as tough as sentinels and vanguards. They're not built to take a beating. Those powers aren't appropriate for them.

If you want the tech armor so bad, just play a sentinel.

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Originally i was upset that Engineer's didn't get Tech armor but then i played a Sentinel and realized that if they had that in addition to Combat drone then it would make Engineers way too powerfull.


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If you really want to use Combat Drone, you have to use it yourself. The squadmates' drones are poor substitutes with their painfully long cooldowns.

And in some situations Combat Drone adds much more survivability than Tech Armour. YMIR mechs come to mind.

Modifié par OniGanon, 11 mars 2010 - 06:25 .


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TheUnusualSuspect

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Game balance is why. Engineers are already crazy powerful.

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The Engineers combat drone is an entirely different beast than the combat drones Tali and Legion get. Not to mention it works wonders when you have Tali and Legion send out their drones at the same time yours is out.

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You know what tech power the engineer should have had? Sabotage, that's what. Being able to stop an enemy from shooting at you for a period of time seems like way more of a "battlefield control" power than the ability to debuff enemies with protection. I don't know why they got rid of that one, it was my favorite tech power in ME1.



Enemy sniper giving you trouble? No problem! Shut him up with this handy little power, while you bring the hurt on his buddies without fear of getting one-shotted!

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Riot Inducer wrote...

You know what tech power the engineer should have had? Sabotage, that's what. Being able to stop an enemy from shooting at you for a period of time seems like way more of a "battlefield control" power than the ability to debuff enemies with protection. I don't know why they got rid of that one, it was my favorite tech power in ME1.

Enemy sniper giving you trouble? No problem! Shut him up with this handy little power, while you bring the hurt on his buddies without fear of getting one-shotted!


Engineers still have this ability.  It's been folded into the Overload ability from rank 3/4 and shuts a weapon down for 6 seconds.  It works too.  Admittedly 6 secs is a lot shorter than 25secs from ME1, but your skills recharge quick, so you can keep spamming it.

Modifié par TheUnusualSuspect, 11 mars 2010 - 06:52 .


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TheUnusualSuspect wrote...
Engineers still have this ability.  It's been folded into the Overload ability from rank 3/4 and shuts a weapon down for 6 seconds.  It works too.  Admittedly 6 secs is a lot shorter than 25secs from ME1, but your skills recharge quick, so you can keep spamming it.


I know...it's just not the same though...then again I must be weird because I actually miss enemy snipers and geth hoppers.

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if the sentinel had a cool bio power ppl wud b like 'Y adept no has?!' so just accept its a cool sentinel power

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 The tech armor is not the coolest, but i agree if tali and legion have the drone the engineer should have had something else like the ability to customize weapons or something

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If you really want a tech based sheild for your Engineer then you could just take Geth Sheild Boost. If you max it out you can even spec it to boost your weapon damage(Sentinel's tech sheild can do that).


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OniGanon wrote...

If you really want to use Combat Drone, you have to use it yourself. The squadmates' drones are poor substitutes with their painfully long cooldowns.

And in some situations Combat Drone adds much more survivability than Tech Armour. YMIR mechs come to mind.


Yeah. I think Tali/Legion's drone has like a 30 second cooldown compared to an Engineer's 3 seconds. Not to mention that both Tali and Legion suck so you probably don't want either of them riding shotgun in the Shepard rape wagon except on the few synth heavy missions that are left by the time you get them.

Modifié par Besetment, 11 mars 2010 - 09:27 .


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I've done insanity Sentinel.



Doing insanity Engineer.



The drone is way better.