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Having played the sp mode of DA:I on both the Xbox 360 and PS3 multiple times each. I haven't seen any major game breaking bugs sure there little bugs that are annoying like not being able to talk to Varric at the party after the Elder One is defeated. But honestly it plays great for me.  

 

I had lot of freezes that required me to shut down power of the system and then recover it in the beginning of my playthrough (well first 50 hours of it). Had 10+ of these. Maybe newest patch helped or sth, cause it didn't bug me during end game (like in 80 hours). Still had lot of texture pop-in's, sound clitches, small dialogue clitches and party banter bug, not mentioning text that is still too small except subtitles and low resolution especially on character faces and CC being clearly inferior to new gen. Also sometimes things don't load like when I beat Cory main hall was empty, no throne, no decoir no Varric. Playable, but annoying and clearly buggy ^^



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Unplayable to me would be game crashing/freezing often, disk unreadable error or saves getting corrupted at the time or something else that permits game from playing. I think graphic bugs, sound problems, text problems and other bugs/clitches can make game unenjoyable and that depends on people how much they will tolerate those. Of cource it's not good to game be close to unenjoyable because bugs though, but I think the worst is when people have unplayable games and Bioware isn't doing anything to at least fix those problems.

 

For me the game is unplayable when something hinders me from being able to fully comprehend the plot progression. In this case the issue (besides all the other minor bugs that I more or less can overlook at times, even though they're really annoying) that renders my game unplayable is the graphics quality. It got way past unejoyable when I realized that I had missed something important because I was unable to see what a certain object was. The point is, unplayable is different for everyone, but some things are easily recognizable as unacceptable at the very least, for an AAA game claiming to work on all platforms, with MINOR differences. 



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Pardon my for asking something that may have already been answered I have not picked up the game in some time and 100 pages seems like quite a bit to skim through (and honestly I am unsure if this is an old gen thing or if I am just highly unlucky) but has the bug of the game freezes on the black loading screens or when you open up the character part of the menu (the one to level them up) freezing issues be fixed for the old gens yet? I'm on a 360 and I have those two problems an awful lot.



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Pardon my for asking something that may have already been answered I have not picked up the game in some time and 100 pages seems like quite a bit to skim through (and honestly I am unsure if this is an old gen thing or if I am just highly unlucky) but has the bug of the game freezes on the black loading screens or when you open up the character part of the menu (the one to level them up) freezing issues be fixed for the old gens yet? I'm on a 360 and I have those two problems an awful lot.

 

Nothing has been fixed for the old gens. The patches have addressed some generic playability issues, ingame issues and beyond that exclusively PC fixes. I don't have that specific problem, but from what I've heard there are other players here who have, so maybe it is an old gen issue. I think Panda has that same problem, maybe he can shed some more light.



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Pardon my for asking something that may have already been answered I have not picked up the game in some time and 100 pages seems like quite a bit to skim through (and honestly I am unsure if this is an old gen thing or if I am just highly unlucky) but has the bug of the game freezes on the black loading screens or when you open up the character part of the menu (the one to level them up) freezing issues be fixed for the old gens yet? I'm on a 360 and I have those two problems an awful lot.

 

Nothing has been fixed for the old gens. The patches have addressed some generic playability issues, ingame issues and beyond that exclusively PC fixes. I don't have that specific problem, but from what I've heard there are other players here who have, so maybe it is an old gen issue. I think Panda has that same problem, maybe he can shed some more light.

 

I'm PS3 player and I didn't have freezes while loading or getting into menu. All freezes I had were while in battle or exploring. Bioware hasn't at least said in any patch notes that they have fixed old gen specific problems at all, but they have fixed some stability issues. I haven't had crashes since newest two newest patches, so it's possible that your xbox might not have freezes or as many freezes anymore, but in other hand some people have said that they have had more problems after patches. So I guess only thing you can do is try yourself if you still have freezes or not ^^



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I see, well its a touch discouraging that none of the old gen issues have been at least addressed in the patch notes then if I understand correctly. I am weary at seeing for myself since my desire to play the game again is very thin and I'd rather not kill it off completely but I will just have to try anyway. Thank you.



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Having played the sp mode of DA:I on both the Xbox 360 and PS3 multiple times each. I haven't seen any major game breaking bugs sure there little bugs that are annoying like not being able to talk to Varric at the party after the Elder One is defeated. But honestly it plays great for me.  

That is great that you were able to.  Though I wonder what the disparity here is.  If it is age of PS3, mine is a relatively new version of the PS3, yet still has those issues. 



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Pardon my for asking something that may have already been answered I have not picked up the game in some time and 100 pages seems like quite a bit to skim through (and honestly I am unsure if this is an old gen thing or if I am just highly unlucky) but has the bug of the game freezes on the black loading screens or when you open up the character part of the menu (the one to level them up) freezing issues be fixed for the old gens yet? I'm on a 360 and I have those two problems an awful lot.

 

I play DAI on Xbox 360 and in 220 hours have only experienced one freeze that required me to power off and power on my Xbox 360.  I have a physical copy of DAI (Deluxe Edition), not a digital version.  My Xbox 360 was manufactured in very late 2012.  I upgraded the HDD to a 500 GB HDD, in late October / early November 2014.  I do not save to the cloud for any of my games, including DAI.  All saves are to the Xbox 360's local HDD.  The freeze happened when I went into the character part of the menu.  I am currently on Patch 6, and have not had any other freezing issues.  Apparently there is a known bug that can (or at least could) cause your system to freeze if you use the amulet that resets your skill points and then immediately go to the character menu to re-assign those points.  I have never done this, so I cannot confirm if this is still and issue for Xbox 360 with Patch 6.

 

I can confirm that I get very little party banter, notice less loot drops and the camera will not auto-center on a character if I switch to that character.  The latter is very annoying during combat and has been an issue since Patch 5.  I did not experience these issues with Patch 4.  So, something happened with Patch 5 that Patch 6 did not fix.  Hopefully, Patch 7 will resolve a few issues.  However I suspect we will not see Patch 7 until May, since The Black Emporium is being released in May (all platforms) and the Jaws of Hakkon DLC is being released in May (for Xbox 360, PS3 and PS4).



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For me the game is unplayable when something hinders me from being able to fully comprehend the plot progression. In this case the issue (besides all the other minor bugs that I more or less can overlook at times, even though they're really annoying) that renders my game unplayable is the graphics quality. It got way past unejoyable when I realized that I had missed something important because I was unable to see what a certain object was. The point is, unplayable is different for everyone, but some things are easily recognizable as unacceptable at the very least, for an AAA game claiming to work on all platforms, with MINOR differences. 

 

That's kind of the reason I just dropped it and haven't bothered with it since. Stuff like the ground items that are so tiny you'd need a microscope to see them*, to the poor quality of the port in general - stuff like the potato people in the cutscenes, important moments ruined by textures so low quality that would be out of place in a game from fifteen years ago. When it's bad enough that someone with my vision notices that it looks bad, there's a problem. Then there's the cutscene stuttering/freezing/speeding up bug that wasn't fixed until the first patch like a month and a half in. Sure, it's A-OK to ship a game with a bug that screws up major plot scenes, right?

 

* I know they "fixed" this in a patch, but one of my pet peeves in a game with a minimap is that you're pretty much always going to be staring at the damn thing. The items being highlighted there makes it worse, not better. Honestly, the developers should have taken a cue from Witcher 2 instead of just aping it without even touching the damn thing. There, even on the 360 port, the items on the ground are not only larger, but the glow is noticable and doesn't fade into the scenery like it does in DAI.

 

I know AAA developers rely on "Ship now, fix later" but it gets kind of ridiculous after a while. I might forgive it from a smaller publisher/dev team, but this is EA/Bioware, who damn sure isn't lacking for cash. There just isn't any excuse for the way the old gen version was shipped, the lack of support it's received since, the lack of support the buyers have received since, and the way the marketers/developers basically flat out lied through their teeth about the port itself.


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Never could get the damn thing to not keep crashing on 360... got some Argos vouchers at work and have bought an xboxone- can't wait to pick up a second hand copy... and then find out what the new gen problems are :). Though I've heard it's considerably less buggy on new gen.

 

 

243 signatures and still Bioware don't offer any help, answers or refunds...

 

My advice? Don't buy games from them new ever again, I'm not going to, they have behaved terribly towards their fan-base and as they have not offered full refunds to those of us who's game was flat out broken- they have effectively committed theft.


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I bought a brand new Xbox One a few days ago. I also got DA:I standard, it's shipping in later today. Let's do some math...

 

I paid 70 euro for DA:I pre-order for xbox360, which is unplayable.

I returned DA:I xbox360 which is unplayable, well past the refund date cause we've been stalled by Bioware, and got back 20 euro (used game).

I bought DA:I standard for Xbox One for 50 euro.

 

So, basically, I'm 100 euro down, and I still don't know if the product will work. I sure hope it does, cause if THIS ONE DOESN'T, I am going to a lawyer and suing them. Simple beans. 


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Here goes nothing, the game's here. Keep fingers crossed everybody..... *reluctant*



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Here goes nothing, the game's here. Keep fingers crossed everybody..... *reluctant*

 

Hope you get to enjoy it!


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You know that by buying a new gen game after buying an old-gen one, you are making exactly what they want? Buying two times the same game at full price.

For now, I'm waiting patch 12 to be able to play an (almost) unbugged game.



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Guys, I don't want to disappoint you, I really don't, but... I just have to share the shock... it's... it's... it's a different game altogether... they're like real people, they look alive!! The detail... Cassandra's handkerchief... has little red embroidery on it and.. and... the rivets... holy ****, the rivets have depth... :o and that villager at the intro, where Cassandra's taking you through the villagers, you know, the one with the brown clothes, the feathered hat and the crossed arms, the one who was all one colour before? Well, he's wearing three different layers of clothing!!! I am sorry guys, I am so sorry, we should have never bought this game on old gens... in comparison what we have is a transcript. :( I know it's a kick in the stomach, but since I am in the unique position of being able to compare... well... I'm glad my xbox360 version didn't work. Seriously. I would have missed on some mind-blowing graphics. 

 

Notwithstanding, their treatment of us remains abominable, and I will be firmly here, pestering them and earning bans and warning points. They need to address at least the technical issues of the old gen consoles. 



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Guys, I don't want to disappoint you, I really don't, but... I just have to share the shock... it's... it's... it's a different game altogether... they're like real people, they look alive!! The detail... Cassandra's handkerchief... has little red embroidery on it and.. and... the rivets... holy ****, the rivets have depth... :o and that villager at the intro, where Cassandra's taking you through the villagers, you know, the one with the brown clothes, the feathered hat and the crossed arms, the one who was all one colour before? Well, he's wearing three different layers of clothing!!! I am sorry guys, I am so sorry, we should have never bought this game on old gens... in comparison what we have is a transcript. :( I know it's a kick in the stomach, but since I am in the unique position of being able to compare... well... I'm glad my xbox360 version didn't work. Seriously. I would have missed on some mind-blowing graphics. 

 

Notwithstanding, their treatment of us remains abominable, and I will be firmly here, pestering them and earning bans and warning points. They need to address at least the technical issues of the old gen consoles. 

 

It is a completely different game. I played on PS3 and didn't have half the issues people have reported here, just some annoying crashes and very minor graphic bugs. We bought the PS4 and game on a whim, but I was completely blown away.

 

You know when you wake up after attempting to close the breach and the elven servant is saying everyone is talking about you? I can't begin to tell you how shocked I was when I walked outside and there was a whole crowd of people out there standing around whispering about the Herald. My jaw hit the floor.

 

And the game is freaking beautiful on the PS4.

 

The game never should have been released on old gen. Even if all the issues weren't there, the game just isn't the same.

 

That said, they did release it. And they need to own up the issues in that department.


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@Octarin - I'm almost sorry to say this but when I update to Xbone (sometimes before October) I won't certainly buy a copy of DA:I, and now that you're able to play it up to the end, and if you're not a die-hard fan of games like Skyrim or The Witcher, you'll understand why...

On the other hand the new Deus Ex has just been announced :wub: and is next gen only...

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I don't think I'll buy the game on new gen, well unless I get it in sale for 10 euros couple years for now ^^; I know my version sucks, but I'm able to play it so it's good enough.

 

They are still selling new DAI PS3 version for 70 euros here. That's so overpriced for this game with all the bugs it got. I spent 45 euros for mine, got it from Denmark for that price and I think it's okay price for what I got especially when I still got lot of crashes when I started. I have to continue soon my other playthroughs and try if I still have crashes in Hinderlands cause majority of crashes happened there. Last one I got in Skyhold.

 

I'm in no hurry on buying PS4 either, since I usually buy used versions of games and play them long time. Until ME4 I don't need PS4 so that's probaply timelimit for me. Although, I doubt I'll preorder it, I have to wait for patches since it's on Frostbite as well :P



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It is a completely different game. I played on PS3 and didn't have half the issues people have reported here, just some annoying crashes and very minor graphic bugs. We bought the PS4 and game on a whim, but I was completely blown away.

 

You know when you wake up after attempting to close the breach and the elven servant is saying everyone is talking about you? I can't begin to tell you how shocked I was when I walked outside and there was a whole crowd of people out there standing around whispering about the Herald. My jaw hit the floor.

 

And the game is freaking beautiful on the PS4.

 

The game never should have been released on old gen. Even if all the issues weren't there, the game just isn't the same.

 

That said, they did release it. And they need to own up the issues in that department.

 

Dude, the ice... the frozen lake and rivers... they have three frozen ice layers depth... good grief. Goof grief! You can see the third layer frozen ice vein if you pitch and tilt... not to mention the paths, the pebbles, the gravel, the little weeds, the treebark... Haven't managed to get any more than half an hour on, since it's Easter coming and there's amounts of cooking to be done, but holy hell... I really wasn't expecting this, I mean yeah, my graphics were horrendous, but I hadn't realized quite how horrendous they were, it's astounding. They sure did a stupendous job on the game... just, the cracks on the ice, holy shite... wow. Mind? Blown. I can't wait to see Skyhold. 

 

I bought the Xbone cause very soon there's gonna be Witcher 3 and Fable Legends coming out, so I would definitely have to buy one for those anyway. So, got it now that it was on sale, special web offer and such over here, saved me around 50 euro lol. I got DA:I cause I absolutely despise leaving things unfinished, and I had started it and hadn't managed to finish it what this issues here and issues there. Until I fired it up I was still very reluctant about buying it, but after those graphics, wow, man I mean, wow... I don't regret getting it anymore :P



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They are still selling new DAI PS3 version for 70 euros here. That's so overpriced for this game with all the bugs it got. I spent 45 euros for mine, got it from Denmark for that price and I think it's okay price for what I got especially when I still got lot of crashes when I started. I have to continue soon my other playthroughs and try if I still have crashes in Hinderlands cause majority of crashes happened there. Last one I got in Skyhold.

 

 

I bought my PS3 copy used off of Ebay for $30 US, which I thought was pretty good considering the game had only been out a few months at the time. Usually I wait till I can get a game copy at $20, but I was impatient.

 

Don't know what we paid for the PS4 version, since it was bundle deal (also off of ebay) with the PS4 console and some other games (which we turned around and sold).

 

Just offering for price comparison.



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Dude, the ice... the frozen lake and rivers... they have three frozen ice layers depth... good grief. Goof grief! You can see the third layer frozen ice vein if you pitch and tilt... not to mention the paths, the pebbles, the gravel, the little weeds, the treebark... Haven't managed to get any more than half an hour on, since it's Easter coming and there's amounts of cooking to be done, but holy hell... I really wasn't expecting this, I mean yeah, my graphics were horrendous, but I hadn't realized quite how horrendous they were, it's astounding. They sure did a stupendous job on the game... just, the cracks on the ice, holy shite... wow. Mind? Blown. I can't wait to see Skyhold. 

 

I feel you. I was traveling around the Hinterlands like ...  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:

 

Not that I thought the graphics on the PS3 were bad - mine being a functional copy - but I'm wandering around the Hinterlands going, "The trees! Look at the damn trees!"

 

There's just so much more to the look of everything, it's unbelievable. 


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I bought the Xbone cause very soon there's gonna be Witcher 3 and Fable Legends coming out, so I would definitely have to buy one for those anyway. So, got it now that it was on sale, special web offer and such over here, saved me around 50 euro lol. I got DA:I cause I absolutely despise leaving things unfinished, and I had started it and hadn't managed to finish it what this issues here and issues there. Until I fired it up I was still very reluctant about buying it, but after those graphics, wow, man I mean, wow... I don't regret getting it anymore :P

 

Pardon my interrupting but is Fable Legends only on the Xbone? I was thinking of originally getting a PS4 but I'd get an Xbone for Fable Legends in a heart beat.



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I bought my PS3 copy used off of Ebay for $30 US, which I thought was pretty good considering the game had only been out a few months at the time. Usually I wait till I can get a game copy at $20, but I was impatient.

 

Don't know what we paid for the PS4 version, since it was bundle deal (also off of ebay) with the PS4 console and some other games (which we turned around and sold).

 

Just offering for price comparison.

 

I live in North Europe, so our prices are lot higher. I tried to look copy in US's ebay, but it added 10 euros of taxes and 15 euros for shipping in top of the price, so it would have got more expensive than what I got when I ordered it from Denmark :)



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Guys, I don't want to disappoint you, I really don't, but... I just have to share the shock... it's... it's... it's a different game altogether... they're like real people, they look alive!! The detail... Cassandra's handkerchief... has little red embroidery on it and.. and... the rivets... holy ****, the rivets have depth... :o and that villager at the intro, where Cassandra's taking you through the villagers, you know, the one with the brown clothes, the feathered hat and the crossed arms, the one who was all one colour before? Well, he's wearing three different layers of clothing!!! I am sorry guys, I am so sorry, we should have never bought this game on old gens... in comparison what we have is a transcript. :( I know it's a kick in the stomach, but since I am in the unique position of being able to compare... well... I'm glad my xbox360 version didn't work. Seriously. I would have missed on some mind-blowing graphics. 

 

Notwithstanding, their treatment of us remains abominable, and I will be firmly here, pestering them and earning bans and warning points. They need to address at least the technical issues of the old gen consoles. 

I figured the difference between old/new gen was night and day, but that is fairly astonishing. Now I really want to upgrade...

If I was going to upgrade to new gen though, I would have to go with the XBOXOne, I can't afford a PS4 and a USED copy of DAI, unfortunately..

I have NEVER even played on a XBOX before, so I am really not sure if it is a good idea. 



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Pardon my interrupting but is Fable Legends only on the Xbone? I was thinking of originally getting a PS4 but I'd get an Xbone for Fable Legends in a heart beat.

 

Fable so far has been a pretty x-box exclusive series (with the exception of PC), which is a shame because I really wish I owned a copy of Fable2 (which they never released for PC).

 

 

I live in North Europe, so our prices are lot higher. I tried to look copy in US's ebay, but it added 10 euros of taxes and 15 euros for shipping in top of the price

 

Damn. I don't know how much higher the prices are when you factor in conversion rates, but those taxes and shipping costs...  :blink:

 

 

I have NEVER even played on a XBOX before, so I am really not sure if it is a good idea. 

 

I've played nearly all the systems. There's not that much of a difference gameplay wise, imo. Just got to watch out for console exclusive games (see Fable example above).


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