I heard that PS4 got day 1 patch which is probaply why it seems to have least amount of bugs. They should have done that for other platforms as well. I guess the priority is new gen -> PC -> old gen : /
I'm afraid they're eventually going to give us the same treatment Blizzard gave to the owners of the last gen versions of Diablo 3. By simply stop patching it.
I'm afraid they're eventually going to give us the same treatment Blizzard gave to the owners of the last gen versions of Diablo 3. By simply stop patching it.
If they are going to do that I hope they will refund all PS3 and XBOX360 versions. People are buying broken product at the moment and it should be fixed : /
The information of DAI in PS3 and XBOX 360 is currently shattered in many different threads which might make it hard for BW to address and get view how severe the problems really are so I decided to do this thread.
What I have gathered from dozen threads on BSN and other game forums: it's not that the graphics are low but the PS3 and XBOX 360 version have countless bugs and issues that for some make the whole game unplayable.
There is some I have gathered people having:
- Black screens, crashing and freezing game
- Sound problems: there is no sound, sound is lacking behind, dialogue has errors or doesn't come out right times, random sounds clitches. Happens in all background music, dialogue and sounds.
- Save files corrupted.
- Textures don't load properly or at all, texture pop-in's.
- Frame-rate drops.
- Major lag issues.
- Dialogue wheel problems.
- Can't complete guests cause some parts of them won't load.
- Enemies don't load or they don't attack player
- Overall graphics are low.
- Multiplayer gliches a lot and is unplayable for some.
- Loading times are huge (over 20 min for some just to save the game)
- Problems of reading the texts; it's too small and/or blurry.
- Clipping issues: arms go through weapons or torso, chin goes through armor etc.
- Lighting issues.
- There is no scars in CC
- No digital download or installing game on HDD for 360.
- Saves won't load, saving game freezes/crashes the game.
- Some area's are having massive lags and freezes that makes them impossible to play.
- Disk unreadable- error on 360.
Highlighted one's are problems that lot of player are having (and I don't think anyone on old gen even has scars in CC).
Possible solutions:
- For game-breaking bugs like crashing and freezing: Re-install game files.
- For area bugs and many other too: Reload save or another save.
- For no sound at all- bug: Make a New savefile (even from the one that is bugged), turn off the console and then restart the game on the new savefile.
Also for lot of players their Inquisitor looks like this: http://forum.bioware...ere/?p=17812615(sorry for using your Inquisitor as example, but it shows really how bad the textures are at times).
However I believe old gen has many severe game breaking issues. I would like to ask Bioware look into these issues as quickly as possible.
Please discuss here about the issues as respectfully and in polite manner as it's possible. Let's make Bioware hear our voices about the issues so there can be change.
Mark Laidlaw has acknowledged that there is issues, they are being investigated and that there will be patches. Thank the Maker!
Let's hope they can fix the problems old gen players are having.
My biggest issue on my 360 was conversation with Stroud - the dialog wheel wouldn't appear for my inquistor, and I had to skip through all the conversations, all the way through to the end of the Fade scene, where I finally got a dialog choice, but also lost Hawke and Strouds convo as well. Sucked.
Hawke's dialog and interaction was fine - Stroud shows up and there's nothing.
The information of DAI in PS3 and XBOX 360 is currently shattered in many different threads which might make it hard for BW to address and get view how severe the problems really are so I decided to do this thread.
What I have gathered from dozen threads on BSN and other game forums: it's not that the graphics are low but the PS3 and XBOX 360 version have countless bugs and issues that for some make the whole game unplayable.
There is some I have gathered people having:
- Black screens, crashing and freezing game
- Sound problems: there is no sound, sound is lacking behind, dialogue has errors or doesn't come out right times, random sounds clitches. Happens in all background music, dialogue and sounds.
- Save files corrupted.
- Textures don't load properly or at all, texture pop-in's.
- Frame-rate drops.
- Major lag issues.
- Dialogue wheel problems.
- Can't complete guests cause some parts of them won't load.
- Enemies don't load or they don't attack player
- Overall graphics are low.
- Multiplayer gliches a lot and is unplayable for some.
- Loading times are huge (over 20 min for some just to save the game)
- Problems of reading the texts; it's too small and/or blurry.
- Clipping issues: arms go through weapons or torso, chin goes through armor etc.
- Lighting issues.
- There is no scars in CC
- No digital download or installing game on HDD for 360.
- Saves won't load, saving game freezes/crashes the game.
- Some area's are having massive lags and freezes that makes them impossible to play.
- Disk unreadable- error on 360.
Highlighted one's are problems that lot of player are having (and I don't think anyone on old gen even has scars in CC).
Possible solutions:
- For game-breaking bugs like crashing and freezing: Re-install game files.
- For area bugs and many other too: Reload save or another save.
- For no sound at all- bug: Make a New savefile (even from the one that is bugged), turn off the console and then restart the game on the new savefile.
Also for lot of players their Inquisitor looks like this: http://forum.bioware...ere/?p=17812615(sorry for using your Inquisitor as example, but it shows really how bad the textures are at times).
However I believe old gen has many severe game breaking issues. I would like to ask Bioware look into these issues as quickly as possible.
Please discuss here about the issues as respectfully and in polite manner as it's possible. Let's make Bioware hear our voices about the issues so there can be change.
Mark Laidlaw has acknowledged that there is issues, they are being investigated and that there will be patches. Thank the Maker!
Let's hope they can fix the problems old gen players are having.
I just signed up so I can respond to this. It's nice to see some confirmation that scars not showing up in CC is a glitch and not something that was intentionally taken out of last gen consoles. I had assumed it was a glitch because I had heard some people had scar options for humans, elves, and/or qunari on their 360s yet I had none for any race on my PS3. I've also heard that some didn't have tattoos either or in addition to no scars in CC. I do have the options for tattoos however. Also as far as I remember, we are supposed to be able to change the placement of tattoos but I can't. Only other problem I have is text is so tiny. Even with the screen zoomed in as much as possible, I still need to be a few feet away from the tv in order to read the text.
I'm afraid they're eventually going to give us the same treatment Blizzard gave to the owners of the last gen versions of Diablo 3. By simply stop patching it.
Except diablo III runs like butter on last gen consoles.
I will be getting DAI in a few days on 360 ( I have a slim 250gb 2011) . I have been reading this thread and think the problems people are having are :-
1) Older model(s) xbox/ ps3 (2005/2008), not the newer slim versions (2011/2013)
-Except people have been having these issues regardless of console model
2) SDTV and not a HDTV
-Irrelevant. An HDTV won't fix texture pop in, mirror-grade facial hair, floating facial hair, FPS during cutscenes. Text size has been an issue for most console players regardless of all factors.
3) No HDMI cabel which is a must have.
-See above
In regards to buying a xbone or PS4. IMHO there is no justification to spent £300 on a new console just for one game for the sake of better graphics.
I know that the 360's will eventually be discontinued and games will stop being made for it. I will get an xbone eventually until it has a decent lineup of games and the possibiity eventually of a slim line version and the price drops to £250 - £200.
I'm not so sure you've read enough.
I registered just to post my utter contempt and feeling of betrayal toward Bioware/EA after buying this god-awful mess of a port. I expected PS3 graphics, not PS2 textures or total lack thereof in addition to gamebreaking bugs which corrupt saves and crash the game at regular intervals. I'm going to try my damndest to return this thing to Target. Should Bioware fix the game-breaking stuff, I'll happily repurchase this. I really want to play the game. I purchased it after the glowing reviews because my girlfriend is a huge fan of the series and really wanted to play this one, and it seemed they had learned from their msitakes with DA2. Five minutes into the game, the abhorrent graphical glitches were apparent. Several hours in, we were already dealing with corrupted saves, crashes, and lag. I expected poorer graphics, not a $60 dollar abomination.
Initially I applauded Bioware for trying to allow the largest portion of gamers possible to enjoy DA: Inquisition, but my opinion now is that Bioware pulled a really disingenuous move by selling this buggy-as-hell port and trying to pass it off as a suitable substitute for the definitive and presumably more playable PC/PS4/XB1 versions.
I've been playing for about 18-20 hours in the PS3 digital version, just got Skyhold and my member roster is finally full with the addition of Cole as the last guy. The experience... I wouldn't call it smooth, not even close, but it's "playable." As for the issues listed on the OP, here's my experience so far, with my take in bold:
Ha, I too just got to Skyhold and my experience is very similar to above.
I came to say that I was crashing more often when I had my online options enabled, disabled them and seemed to be a lot smoother in general. But when I got to Skyhold I had to do a PS3 reset, which I've had to do about 3 times overall. A bit annoying since it resets my options (inverted Y axis, subtitles, etc., weird). Otherwise, texture pop is my only noticeable enemy.
I'm still iffy should I buy the game or not for my PS3. I don't think I will be able to buy it anywhere where I could get refund if the game is unplayable on my console. And I wouldn't want to throw 60 euros away either. In other hand I have been spoiled about this game so much already and I want to experience how awesome it is myself (I'm so jealous for everyone who got well-working version of the game!). Sigh, struggle is real.
I also have the PS3 slim and would highly suggest that you stay far away from the PS3 version until crashes are directly addressed. I have only played for about 6-7 hours, but the amount of bugs I encountered just in that time was absolutely staggering. I thought Skyrim was buggy at launch, but holy hell. I sincerely doubt that the PS360 ports were playtested for more than a week. I do not mean for that to be slanderous or hyperbolic, I simply do not understand how else this port of the game got past the beta stage and was greenlit to be placed on store shelves
I Know that feel bro. You seem to be enthusiastically trying to get it working on ps3(from all your posts since release date). If you played games like skyrim on ps3 where it took more than six months to patch game breaking lags and then the 1.9 stable update came a whole year later!!(2013) I have been through that and it was bad. This is not even close to being that bad. You can put in a lot of hours and even temporarily avoid Forbidden Oasis. However if you, like me have plans of getting next gen anytime soon, you will repent it i suppose. TBH being a PS3 RPG player for a long time, this game is in the range of "acceptable at launch". (I can already imagine the incoming volley of brickbats
but this is just my opinion). But they definitely need to patch things up soon.
It seems my experience with Skyrim versus DA:I was the exact opposite of yours... in 200 hours of the vanilla release I froze maybe twice and encountered predominantly smaller bugs with sidequests being uncompletable, which was profoundly annoying but not game ending. Granted, this was on the 360 and I've heard the PS3 version of Skyrim was far buggier.
I've been playing for about 18-20 hours in the PS3 digital version, just got Skyhold and my member roster is finally full with the addition of Cole as the last guy. The experience... I wouldn't call it smooth, not even close, but it's "playable." As for the issues listed on the OP, here's my experience so far, with my take in bold:
- Black screens, crashing and freezing game: I've never had black screens, although two times already my game froze, forcing me to turn off and restart my PS3.
- Sound problems: there is no sound, sound is lacking behind, dialogue has errors or doesn't come out right times, random sounds clitches. Happens in all background music, dialogue and sounds. There's no sound errors during dialogue, although I've had somewhat rare occurrences where dialogue refused to proceed automatically--meaning character just stand still after speaking a line: skipping the dialogue by pressing square proceeds the dialogue normally. Sound glitches, however, happened more often during adventuring/battling, where the sound effects lagged behind what happened on the screen, most often happened during skirmishes. I had one (admittedly rather hilarious) instances where the entire battle sound effects only played *after* I managed to beat the enemies and my party walked forward some paces. It's such a funny thing.
- Save files corrupted. Never had this problem, although I got a scare once after reloading a game after a screen freeze. The game took a while displaying "enumerating save files"--longer than usual--and then for some mysterious reason all of my option settings reset to default. However the save files, to my great relief, are still there.
- Textures don't load properly or at all, texture pop-in's. Yes, quite often. Although for me it's not really an issue, since stuff like this also happened for Mass Effect and various other games in PS3. Just part of the parcel that I'm already somewhat used to, hahaha.
- Frame-rate drops. Yes, quite often as well, and although they're "noticeable", sometimes very much so, they're not what I'd call "unplayable". However, I am a very patient guy, hahaha.
- Major lag issues. Yes, although I wouldn't call it "major", although if I call it "minor" I'd be lying. Especially noticeable during character menus like changing equipment, viewing characters, and such. Often it took a while for characters to load onto the screen.
- Dialogue wheel problems. This happened quite often for dialogues without cutscenes--you know, the dialogues when the game zoomed in towards the main character and the character he/she's speaking with without screen changing. Sometimes it requires multiple X presses, or cancelling-reentering the dialogue, or repositioning my main character towards the character in question. Quite annoying, *but* I've never had an occasion where I *could not* initiate a conversation--save that one time where Josephine magically swallowed by the floor with only her head appearing (that's quite hilarious--and it's fixed by saving and reloading the game)
- Can't complete quests cause some parts of them won't load.So far, never had a problem with this. All the quests I managed to find I managed to complete.
- Enemies don't load or they don't attack player. Never had issues like this.
- Overall graphics are low. I am a very easily pleased kind of guy, and I say the graphics are just fine. Especially for a cross-gen game clearly "meant" for newer machines. It's easily better than DA1 and DA2, as far as my eyes are concerned, and that's fine for me.
- Multiplayer gliches a lot and is unplayable for some. Haven't tried MP yet, can't comment on this one.
- Loading times are huge (over 20 min for some just to save the game) Sorry, but I call bollocks on this. Loading times are often significant, yes, but not 20 minutes significant. At most a minute or more. I seriously never ever encountered a 20 minutes loading for anything at all--that's just crazy.
- Problems of reading the texts; it's too small and/or blurry. Never had a problem. I believe this is a TV issue, not game issue (for example, people playing in non HD televisions) I can read the text just fine.
- Clipping issues: arms go through weapons or torso, chin goes through armor etc. I don't think I ever had these problems, but admittedly I am not really looking for these/not paying attention/
- Lighting issues. Sometimes, yes, but very rarely (for example, Leliana's face on the beginning during a cutscene lit up like crazy it's like her face was made out of flares, hahaha.
- There is no scars in CC Unfortunate, but ultimately not really a big deal, isn't it?
- No digital download or installing game on HDD for 360. Playing the game on PS3, so I wouldn't know.
- Saves won't load, saving game freezes/crashes the game. Never had problems like these, although sometimes the game very noticeably lagged when the saving icon rotated below.
- Some area's are having massive lags and freezes that makes them impossible to play. So far, "noticeable". but not "unplayable". However I admittedly still haven't explored all the areas available, only Hinterlands, Storm Coast, and Fallow Mire so far for the "open world" areas.
- Disk unreadable- error on 360. Playing the game on PS3, so I wouldn't know, and I play the digital version.
So essentially what you're saying is you were super lucky and got a virtually problem-free experience. You are either lying/exaggerating, or were VERY lucky.
Far too many people have had the issues above for me to believe yours is the norm. And the text? Few people have said it's readable, and if you've paid ANY attention to people commenting, it's a widespread complaint regardless of system, TV, or cables used.
Major errors on my end so far (Xbox 360 ver):
- Crashing at Skyhold: I've had the game lock up several times in a row, and it mainly happens here. Mainly happens immediately after I get my specialization, not sure if that's related.
- Sound glitches: Audio jumbles and speeds up, making some conversations unintelligible. Occasionally the music will get louder and the regular sounds will be very, very low.
- Cutscene problems: First taking with Dorian at Skyhold results in the scene hanging when it should advance, and requires skipping through it, meaning you miss parts. Also happens every time on the Cass romance, and on a particular MQ scene in the Western Approach.
- Texture errors: Out the wazoo. It's worse than any ME game, and the Unreal Engine is notorious for bad texture pop-in.
- Save Error: Only once every blue moon, but it will sit there on "checking free space" and just sit rotating into infinity.
- Small text: Not an issue on my secondary setup, but it's much closer. When I'm in the living room, however, it's so small as to be impossible to read. Both are on HDTVs.
So essentially what you're saying is you were super lucky and got a virtually problem-free experience. You are either lying/exaggerating, or were VERY lucky.
Far too many people have had the issues above for me to believe yours is the norm. And the text? Few people have said it's readable, and if you've paid ANY attention to people commenting, it's a widespread complaint regardless of system, TV, or cables used.
Hahaha. Why would I be super lucky or lying/exaggerating? I don't get it. I don't even get cookies for lying to a bunch of people I don't know on the Internet.
Like I said at the beginning, it's not a smooth experience, but it's "playable". Chugs along, lags on inventory/everything menu, long loading times (though never 20 minutes, that's crazy), texture pop-ins, occasional sound problems, dialogue troubles, framerate issues--sometimes quite severe, etc etc etc. I do have all these problems. However, despite those, it's "playable."
I don't even get how you're calling me lucky. And remember, I am still only 18-20 hours, just gotten to Skyhold and exploring its insides. Maybe there will be significant problems when I proceed to more places soon beyond where I've been, but so far, it's "playable."
Currently playing on the 250GB 360 Slim. I have just over 40 hours between 3 different characters. No crashes or freezes so far and other than the dialog bug where people seem to start speaking in tongues I have had a relatively "smooth" experience. The graphics are my only real complaint. I wasn't expecting anything mind blowing but at times it gets ridiculous, like why is it when I got to Crossroads the town and the people load in perfectly fine but the statue in the middle of town wont unless I get within humping distance? Or why does grass literally spawn within 5 feet of my character then disappear once I walk by? It feels like something is flat out broken like when you muck up a mod install and everything is functional but not quite right looking. I can probably speak for most when I say I don't need amazing, I just need consistency.
Hahaha. Why would I be super lucky or lying/exaggerating? I don't get it. I don't even get cookies for lying to a bunch of people I don't know on the Internet.
Like I said at the beginning, it's not a smooth experience, but it's "playable". Chugs along, lags on inventory/everything menu, long loading times (though never 20 minutes, that's crazy), texture pop-ins, occasional sound problems, dialogue troubles, framerate issues--sometimes quite severe, I do have all these problems. However, despite that, it's "playable."
I don't even get how you're calling me lucky. And remember, I am still only 18-20 hours, just gotten to Skyhold and exploring its insides. Maybe there will be significant problems when I proceed to more places soon beyond where I've been, but so far, it's "playable."
You denounced most of the problems posted here, or claimed to never have them.
If you're not lying about it, then you have been extremely lucky.
You denounced most of the problems posted here, or claimed to never have them.
If you're not lying about it, then you have been extremely lucky.
How am I "denouncing" them when I, like, literally, there, displayed on the full in my post, have stated that I too have problems of various kinds during my playthrough? Does the sentence: "the experience... I wouldn't call it smooth, not even close, but it's "playable." really that difficult to understand for you?
Really, why would I be lying anyway? That's just ridiculous.
How am I "denouncing" them when I, like, literally, there, displayed on the full in my post, have stated that I too have problems of various kinds during my playthrough? Does the sentence: "the experience... I wouldn't call it smooth, not even close, but it's "playable." really that difficult to understand for you?
Really, why would I be lying anyway? That's just ridiculous.
Out of your list you said outright on 8 issues that you've never experienced them. Only 4 you outright called out as significant. You refused to call the lag issues major even though you clearly describe them as such.
So yes, downplaying and denouncing. So you're either having an unusually smooth playthrough, or aren't having a smooth playthrough and are using a bit of white wash to make it sound better.
Out of your list you said outright on 8 issues that you've never experienced them. Only 4 you outright called out as significant. You refused to call the lag issues major even though you clearly describe them as such.
So yes, downplaying and denouncing. So you're either having an unusually smooth playthrough, or aren't having a smooth playthrough and are using a bit of white wash to make it sound better.
Well, I clearly stated in the beginning that it's my experience yes? Seriously, it seems like you--and killtrocity, apparently, considering he/she likes your post, hahaha--would have been happier if I experience more severe problems in my game, haha. Have I said that other people don't have them? No, I have not. For you to act like as if I shouted out from the rooftops saying "NOOO YOU PEOPLE ARE LYING YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS" is really bizarre.
Also, I stated outright at the beginning that I wouldn't call my experience "smooth"--not even close. so It baffles me that you think I am characterizing my playthrough as "smooth" or "unusually smooth" when I already prefaced my post stating completely the opposite.
Ah, I don't know why I should defend myself like this to you.
Well, I clearly stated in the beginning that it's my experience yes? Seriously, it seems like you--and killtrocity, apparently, considering he/she likes your post, hahaha--would have been happier if I experience more severe problems in my game, haha. Have I said that other people don't have them? No, I have not. For you to act like as if I shouted out from the rooftops saying "NOOO YOU PEOPLE ARE LYING YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS" is really bizarre.
Also, I stated outright at the beginning that I wouldn't call my experience "smooth"--not even close. so It baffles me that you think I am characterizing my playthrough as "smooth" or "unusually smooth" when I already prefaced my post stating completely the opposite.
Ah, I don't know why I should defend myself like this to you.
I said you are either lying (because you clearly have an air of troll about you), or were having an unusually good experience. You asked how I would say that. So I clarified. Now you accuse me of wanting you to have a bad experience.
I've fed you too much already.
I said you are either lying (because you clearly have an air of troll about you), or were having an unusually good experience. You asked how I would say that. So I clarified. Now you accuse me of wanting you to have a bad experience.
I've fed you too much already.
Troll? Hahaha. Damn.
Ok, if you say so then, if that'll make you happy.
well lets call it, "past gen" ? either way ps3/xbox360 can definitly handle good Graphics and from what ive seen in some pictures or videos of this game, they dont exactly look like ps3/xbox360 quality much, more like low pc grapcs.
More textures, bigger spaces, more systems interacting at once requires more power to produce well. Games that had limited textures, smaller areas, and basic environment systems look fantastic on old gen. "Good graphics" is a relative term. Developers did a great job extending the life on those consoles and really made some amazing looking games given the restrictions they had to work with.
I just signed up so I can respond to this. It's nice to see some confirmation that scars not showing up in CC is a glitch and not something that was intentionally taken out of last gen consoles. I had assumed it was a glitch because I had heard some people had scar options for humans, elves, and/or qunari on their 360s yet I had none for any race on my PS3. I've also heard that some didn't have tattoos either or in addition to no scars in CC. I do have the options for tattoos however. Also as far as I remember, we are supposed to be able to change the placement of tattoos but I can't. Only other problem I have is text is so tiny. Even with the screen zoomed in as much as possible, I still need to be a few feet away from the tv in order to read the text.
Ah sorry, I think you misunderstood my OP. The lack of scars seem to be intentional from BW's part rather than being bug. I haven't so far heard anyone playing in last gen who have scars in CC : /
Played about 10 hours on PS3 320 GB slim with a 40 inch 1080p tv LCD. My experience has been pretty awful. I'm getting headaches because the textures are so blurry and the text so small that it's making my already bad eyesight even worse. Couldn't return the game because I'd redeemed the DLC code. Hope there's a poor sucker out there on Ebay who wants my copy.
What a disappointment, never buying a game again unless it's specifically designed and optimised for that platform as well as having had a few patches to get it working optimally.
Do you have other problems as text? I have the same system than you and I hope DAI is somehow playable on that.
More textures, bigger spaces, more systems interacting at once requires more power to produce well. Games that had limited textures, smaller areas, and basic environment systems look fantastic on old gen. "Good graphics" is a relative term. Developers did a great job extending the life on those consoles and really made some amazing looking games given the restrictions they had to work with.
No they didn't do good job when game is unplayable cause of performance issues for so many. Good graphics don't mean new gen level but they mean situation where textures load properly so Dorian doesn't have long nose-hair and Inquisitor's beard isn't drawn by marker. Good graphics in DAI's case would be best that BW has offered before on old gen which is ME3 and DA2 graphics, which in many cases the DAI doesn't fullfill since textures don't work properly.
Ah sorry, I think you misunderstood my OP. The lack of scars seem to be intentional from BW's part rather than being bug. I haven't so far heard anyone playing in last gen who have scars in CC : /
Do you have other problems as text? I have the same system than you and I hope DAI is somehow playable on that.
Weird, I've heard people say they have scar options for humans or elves or qunari on the 360 but no tattoos. Thus I thought that maybe that might also hold true for PS3 and thus were race specific and since I was originally playing a dwarf I figured this was what was the problem but when I tried all the other races, same thing. Regardless they need to add scars for last gen. It's not like they would have looked bad given that people like Cassandra have them and they don't look bad. For a game where they touted the level of customization of the PC, getting rid of an option from certain consoles for no discernable reason makes no sense to me.
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