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[Squallypo]

i know ull all probably shoot me for saying this
 
But have you all considered starting a twitter/facebook, a change.org petition, like i mean, you have to put pressure on the company if you really want them to notice
Like i mean, if everybody in this thread had a twitter account and messaged the developers with there issues, they would be flooded with messages and we know they would have to see that, they check there twitters, bioware developers have personal twitter accounts and answer questions there
Maybe there just not actively watching the forums
But i have to say, what shocks me still is how. you can be in one part of hinterlands and it looks just like the PS4 version, almost identicle bar some lighting and sun shafts
And then u go further down the hill of hinterlands and it becomes like a PS2 game
 
i just dont see how the hell thats even possible to make that sort of mistake in developement, why not re-use the high res textures that look good for the entirety of the area? like i mean, what?

in that video, if you watch at 19:25 around there, i think it look's absolutely amazing and high definition in the textures, especially on the rocks and the blur/smooth framerate is really nice
I havn't purposly looked for a video to show the downgraded quality area's, but thats an example of what i mean by some of the game is extremely beautiful to look at

What you say in a way is true, apparently we need to use social media sources to get our voice heard, like Facebook, twitter etc and it needs to be done I don't think they even care to read us here because so far it hasn't happened , I'm pissed off now, this is mass effect 3 effect all over again.

[vvEvilvKittenvv]

Alright, second play through now with a dwarf has some issues. My dwarf isn't in frame during 88% of the conversations. The drawing of arrows to the bow animation is glitches in a 180 degree arm fold. Jumping animation freezes more frequently but it's solved by jumping again.

 

I still don't like all the hairstyles are unisex and basically butch. Where's the long hair, the braids, the decent ponytails. There should be a colour wheel for hair colour too. And the damned shiny (facial) hair is annoying. There's no scars for Xbox 360, or am I blind? Eyelashes aren't where they are supposed to be around the eye, they appear in the skin, thus the eyeliner doesn't line up either and it's noticeable.

 

I'm not bitching to Bioware, they aren't blind. Chances are that they're working hard to fix the problems for 4 consoles and the pc. It's not a small problem that can be fixed like that. They'll have to hunt around for the source of the issues then troubleshoot solutions.   Yes, in a perfect world every game would work perfectly at launch. But crap happens, such is life. So relax, they're working on it.

[Pig Bodine]

Glitches, frame rate, overly glossy hair, blah, blah, blah-and I say that with no disrespect as those things are annoying! BUT I'll take the game being buggy etc- because I know the hardware is so damn old. But what I won't take is this- this game isn't just buggy. For me and a whole slew of others it is BROKEN- it will not play at all. I've waited with great anticipation for this game and now I'm stuck with no game whatsoever. It simply will not run. Nankura is right I think it's time to start up a campaign on facebook, twitter etc Has anyone set up a page yet on this? As I don't want to duplicate our efforts.

[tevix]

Alright, second play through now with a dwarf has some issues. My dwarf isn't in frame during 88% of the conversations. The drawing of arrows to the bow animation is glitches in a 180 degree arm fold. Jumping animation freezes more frequently but it's solved by jumping again.

 

I still don't like all the hairstyles are unisex and basically butch. Where's the long hair, the braids, the decent ponytails. There should be a colour wheel for hair colour too. And the damned shiny (facial) hair is annoying. There's no scars for Xbox 360, or am I blind? Eyelashes aren't where they are supposed to be around the eye, they appear in the skin, thus the eyeliner doesn't line up either and it's noticeable.

 

I'm not bitching to Bioware, they aren't blind. Chances are that they're working hard to fix the problems for 4 consoles and the pc. It's not a small problem that can be fixed like that. They'll have to hunt around for the source of the issues then troubleshoot solutions.   Yes, in a perfect world every game would work perfectly at launch. But crap happens, such is life. So relax, they're working on it.

Many of the issues people are complaining about should have been largely removed before launch.  The game was released unfinished, and they knew it.

[Pig Bodine]

The information of DAI in PS3 and XBOX 360 is currently shattered in many different threads which might make it hard for BW to address and get view how severe the problems really are so I decided to do this thread.

 

Not everyone is having same problems and there is lot of inconsistency: some have severe problems and some just some bugs.

 

There is some issues I have gathered people having:

 

• Black screens, crashing and freezing game
• Sound problems: there is no sound, sound is lacking behind, dialogue has errors or doesn't come out right times, random sounds clitches. Happens in all background music, dialogue and sounds.
• Save files problems: corrupted, can't load some or any saves.
• Textures don't load properly or at all, texture pop-in's.
• Frame-rate drops.
• Major lag issues.
• Dialogue wheel problems, sometimes dialogue has to be skipped in order of game to continue.
• Can't complete guests cause some parts of them won't load.
• Enemies don't load or they don't attack player
• Overall graphics are low.
• Multiplayer gliches a lot and is unplayable for some.
• Loading times are huge (over 20 min for some just to save the game)
• Problems of reading the texts; it's too small and/or blurry.
• Clipping issues: arms go through weapons or torso, chin goes through armor etc.
• Lighting issues: in some places too dark to see (dungeons), in some places too much light.
• There is no scars in CC  (confirmed as intentionally removed)
• No digital download or installing game on HDD for 360.
• Saves won't load, saving game freezes/crashes the game.
• Some area's are having massive lags and freezes that makes them impossible to play.
• Black screens during tactical camera.
• Disk unreadable- error on 360.

Highlighted one's are problems that lot of player are having (and I don't think anyone on old gen even has scars in CC).

 

Possible solutions:

 

• For game-breaking bugs like crashing and freezing: Re-install game files.
• For area bugs and many other too: Reload save or autosave.
• For no sound at all- bug: Make a New savefile (even from the one that is bugged), turn off the console and then restart the game on the new savefile.
• HDM1-cable and HD-TV might fix text bug.
• For text issue: Change the display to 1080p, for some people this have worked.
• For Disk unreadable-error: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/522013-old-gen-ps3-and-xbox360-master-thread-bioware-please-fix-these-issues/?p=17865609
• For game crashing/freezing during auto-save: Don't do anything while game auto-saves, just let it save and then continue.

 

I would like to ask Bioware look into these issues as quickly as possible.

 

Mark Laidlaw has acknowledged that there is issues, they are being investigated and that there will be patches. Thank the Maker!

 

 

Please discuss here about the issues as respectfully and in polite manner as it's possible. Let's make Bioware hear our voices about the issues so there can be change

Don't know if you think this is a good idea or even if you can do this?- but maybe the thread title could be changed to something like 'old gen versions won't work at all' or something slightly more aggresive to catch Bioware's attention- these aren't just issues- this is a game that doesn't work at all on a lot of consoles- just a suggestion? Thoughts?

[JuanSaS]

I fell ripped off, this is a bullshit. I imagined a downgrade between PS4 to PS3 but not this, and the most funny is the two version have the same price! Simply, if you don't fix the bugs and fix the boody "beta" version of PS3, you will be a swindlers.

 

Sorry my english people!

[Squallypo]

Don't know if you think this is a good idea or even if you can do this?- but maybe the thread title could be changed to something like 'old gen versions won't work at all' or something slightly more aggresive to catch Bioware's attention- these aren't just issues- this is a game that doesn't work at all on a lot of consoles- just a suggestion? Thoughts?

Yeah I'm having that feeling too... Honestly as I said before I'm really pissed off now, I hate to see we are being ignored completely and they don't seem to care, if we don't do something about it we are not gonna get a good patch/update to get this whole mess fix as it should be! The game costed the same as PC/ps4/xbox1 so pluuuuuese come at this thread bioware staff and and all to us

[Panda]

Don't know if you think this is a good idea or even if you can do this?- but maybe the thread title could be changed to something like 'old gen versions won't work at all' or something slightly more aggresive to catch Bioware's attention- these aren't just issues- this is a game that doesn't work at all on a lot of consoles- just a suggestion? Thoughts?

 

Well I have been trying to keep the thread informative for both Bioware (thus list of issues so they could work on those) and users (solutions list and update what BW is doing though there isn't much to update since they don't react much to out problems) rather than just complaining thread although understably it has lot of complaining as well. There has been many angry threads but they usually die quite fastly and you get other forum members (next gen and PC) shutting them down too so I think this is best solution. Downside is that there hasn't been dialogue on BW's side, not in this thread and not in even longer thread about patch on old gen in technical support subforum. I have been trying to tweet this thread to devs too but I guess they don't want/have time to take a look : /

[Squallypo]

Well I have been trying to keep the thread informative for both Bioware (thus list of issues so they could work on those) and users (solutions list and update what BW is doing though there isn't much to update since they don't react much to out problems) rather than just complaining thread although understably it has lot of complaining as well. There has been many angry threads but they usually die quite fastly and you get other forum members (next gen and PC) shutting them down too so I think this is best solution. Downside is that there hasn't been dialogue on BW's side, not in this thread and not in even longer thread about patch on old gen in technical support subforum. I have been trying to tweet this thread to devs too but I guess they don't want/have time to take a look : /

They are ignoring us... And its really making me upset now and I don't think I'm the only one.

[Pig Bodine]

Well I have been trying to keep the thread informative for both Bioware (thus list of issues so they could work on those) and users (solutions list and update what BW is doing though there isn't much to update since they don't react much to out problems) rather than just complaining thread although understably it has lot of complaining as well. There has been many angry threads but they usually die quite fastly and you get other forum members (next gen and PC) shutting them down too so I think this is best solution. Downside is that there hasn't been dialogue on BW's side, not in this thread and not in even longer thread about patch on old gen in technical support subforum. I have been trying to tweet this thread to devs too but I guess they don't want/have time to take a look : / 

Just joined twitter just to tweet Mike Laidlaw- like that'll get a response... little new to this as haven't had cause to complain before - I mean heck I didn't like the way ME3 ended but that's an 'artistic' issue- not a faulty product one. Has anyone started a campaign yet- website facebook page etc?

[Squallypo]

Just joined twitter just to tweet Mike Laidlaw- like that'll get a response... little new to this as haven't had cause to complain before - I mean heck I didn't like the way ME3 ended but that's an 'artistic' issue- not a faulty product one. Has anyone started a campaign yet- website facebook page etc?

 

i think this problem is separated from what happend to ME3 artsy stuff, this is really a technical problem that bioware and ea gave us within our games, this is not a "lets please the fans with more content since they felt unpleased with the rushed ending kind of thing etc" this is a huge problem for us specially pc is playable , so are the new consoles but xbox 360 and ps3??????? cmon the list is there and its long, seriously we gotta start pushing forward with our problems because we wont be able to enjoy and feel this game as it is right now.

[Urzon]

I seem to be mostly stuck with the random (and sometimes very specific) game/system freezes and small and blurry text on my ps3.

 

   Small/Blurry Text: This is the same exact problem I had with DA2. Even after blowing out the display to the max and moving my console to my largest TV (40"), the text is still barely legible, and if the letters are too closely spaced together; they just blur together into a mess.

 

   Game/System Freezes: (Another problem that seems to have gotten imported from DA2.) I could forgive most of the other problems if it wasn't for this one. If it only happened every couple or several hours, they would be a pain, but at least they would be manageable. I seem to be finding more and more specific little actions that cause the game and the whole system to freeze up though. If I dare confirm more than 1 skill point at a time after respecting? Freeze. If I move my cursor to the very edge of the map during the war table? Freeze.

 

I'm getting a paranoid OCD when it comes to saving the game, and it's very sad. What's worse is I know that another game freeze is coming anyway, no matter what I do, and I get to sit through my ps3 guilting me about "improperly shutting off the system" again and I get to wonder if this is going to be the time my saves get corrupted and lost.  

[Jay84]

There are a couple of EA mods you can message but..... I tired hell even gave them the list of issues to pass on and they pretty much shrugged it off :/ I cant beleive that we seem to have no rights on this, surely we as consumers have the right to demand at least a refund since the product is pretty much broken.

[Squallypo]

There are a couple of EA mods you can message but..... I tired hell even gave them the list of issues to pass on and they pretty much shrugged it off :/ I cant beleive that we seem to have no rights on this, surely we as consumers have the right to demand at least a refund since the product is pretty much broken.

and i agree on what you say, why are they ignoring us ? are they trying to "avoid" another bioware scandal, and now ubisoft has their own with unity seriusly, why arent they getting their bananas together.

[nankura]

Don't know if you think this is a good idea or even if you can do this?- but maybe the thread title could be changed to something like 'old gen versions won't work at all' or something slightly more aggresive to catch Bioware's attention- these aren't just issues- this is a game that doesn't work at all on a lot of consoles- just a suggestion? Thoughts?

this looks promising, its a response even if its not "officially" in the news, maybe there just fixing the PC Version first because its easier to fix pc bugs

http://forum.bioware.../#entry17813110

[Pig Bodine]

this looks promising, its a response even if its not "officially" in the news, maybe there just fixing the PC Version first because its easier to fix pc bugs

http://forum.bioware.../#entry17813110

No mention of old gen versions- until they mention that for some xbox 360 and ps3 users this game is unplayable we won't stop shouting about it. As we are clearly beta testers now it would be nice if they listened to the beta report we're providing for them right now. I'll be generous and waive the fee they ought to be paying us for testing their broken game if they just fix the damn disc unreadable error on the xbox and whatever error message you ps3 guys are getting.

[Vidas Secas]

texture problems and audio glitches

[Pig Bodine]

Ok- only 38 likes on this so far but we gotta start somewhere- I suggest we all like this page and start commenting on it. https://www.facebook...7220418?fref=ts

[Pig Bodine]

Ok- only 38 likes on this so far but we gotta start somewhere- I suggest we all like this page and start commenting on it. https://www.facebook...7220418?fref=ts

It's pc focused a bit but we all oughtta stick together on this.

[Squallypo]

Ok- only 38 likes on this so far but we gotta start somewhere- I suggest we all like this page and start commenting on it. https://www.facebook...7220418?fref=ts

 

did you state that is for ps3/xbox 360? i dont know if you are the owner so lol

[Squallypo]

It's pc focused a bit but we all oughtta stick together on this.

eh... we sorta need xbox360/ps3 focused as well or else they wont care, just look our position right now, they not even here , not even once they have replied to us in this thread, NOT ONCE and im really getting upset although im trying to keep it together, i dont wanna give them a single reason to close this thread.

[Pig Bodine]

The information of DAI in PS3 and XBOX 360 is currently shattered in many different threads which might make it hard for BW to address and get view how severe the problems really are so I decided to do this thread.

 

Not everyone is having same problems and there is lot of inconsistency: some have severe problems and some just some bugs.

 

There is some issues I have gathered people having:

 

• Black screens, crashing and freezing game
• Sound problems: there is no sound, sound is lacking behind, dialogue has errors or doesn't come out right times, random sounds clitches. Happens in all background music, dialogue and sounds.
• Save files problems: corrupted, can't load some or any saves.
• Textures don't load properly or at all, texture pop-in's.
• Frame-rate drops.
• Major lag issues.
• Dialogue wheel problems, sometimes dialogue has to be skipped in order of game to continue.
• Can't complete guests cause some parts of them won't load.
• Enemies don't load or they don't attack player
• Overall graphics are low.
• Multiplayer gliches a lot and is unplayable for some.
• Loading times are huge (over 20 min for some just to save the game)
• Problems of reading the texts; it's too small and/or blurry.
• Clipping issues: arms go through weapons or torso, chin goes through armor etc.
• Lighting issues: in some places too dark to see (dungeons), in some places too much light.
• There is no scars in CC  (confirmed as intentionally removed)
• No digital download or installing game on HDD for 360.
• Saves won't load, saving game freezes/crashes the game.
• Some area's are having massive lags and freezes that makes them impossible to play.
• Black screens during tactical camera.
• Disk unreadable- error on 360.

Highlighted one's are problems that lot of player are having (and I don't think anyone on old gen even has scars in CC).

 

Possible solutions:

 

• For game-breaking bugs like crashing and freezing: Re-install game files.
• For area bugs and many other too: Reload save or autosave.
• For no sound at all- bug: Make a New savefile (even from the one that is bugged), turn off the console and then restart the game on the new savefile.
• HDM1-cable and HD-TV might fix text bug.
• For text issue: Change the display to 1080p, for some people this have worked.
• For Disk unreadable-error: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/522013-old-gen-ps3-and-xbox360-master-thread-bioware-please-fix-these-issues/?p=17865609
• For game crashing/freezing during auto-save: Don't do anything while game auto-saves, just let it save and then continue.

 

I would like to ask Bioware look into these issues as quickly as possible.

 

Mark Laidlaw has acknowledged that there is issues, they are being investigated and that there will be patches. Thank the Maker!

 

 

Please discuss here about the issues as respectfully and in polite manner as it's possible. Let's make Bioware hear our voices about the issues so there can be change.

Hi there Panda, you mentioned you were sending messages to various people in the company- can you post this list so we can all message them- maybe they will start to take notice?

[Panda]

Hi there Panda, you mentioned you were sending messages to various people in the company- can you post this list so we can all message them- maybe they will start to take notice?

 

Okay, I didn't send for many but there is some list:

 

@dragonage

@Cameron_Lee (producer)

@Mike_Laidlaw (creative director)

@BioMarkDarrah (producer)

 

Dragonage has given some help to people with problems and Mike Laidlaw have answered some things as well and spoke about patches so those might work at least ^^

[Jay84]

Okay, I didn't send for many but there is some list:

 

@dragonage

@Cameron_Lee (producer)

@Mike_Laidlaw (creative director)

@BioMarkDarrah (producer)

 

Dragonage has given some help to people with problems and Mike Laidlaw have answered some things as well and spoke about patches so those might work at least ^^

Nice work Panda, lets see if we can get there attention!

[StaceysChain]

Dragonage has given some help to people with problems and Mike Laidlaw have answered some things as well and spoke about patches so those might work at least ^^

 

That's if they decide to make a patch at all!

 

I've noticed two other problem in my playthrough. It's almost always happens during cutscenes with

 

Spoiler

Hawke and Stroud.

 

One character will say their line, but then the dialog just stops. The character is still moving and the music is still playing but it takes ages to switch to the next character for them to say their lines. And mashing the square button doesn't help at all. And during the Adamant quest, I'm unable to switch to other members in my party! It's only happened during that quest and I hope it doesn't happen during another one! 

 

Also, Leliana's character model looks so so so bad compared to everyone else! She looks like a shiny plastic doll.