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[FKA_Servo]

right on the skyrim engine is not the same as frostbite, sorry for that mistake i have my brain cells in various stuff xD , although you could say the engines arent that much different in terms of sandbox feeling and the graphics are nice as well but different engines, and yeah the frostbite has been used for need for speed, battlefield 3 and other shooter games but cmon if they implemented the game for old gens it means its duable and possible to optimize it properly while lowering but not degrading much the graphics either, you may call this old gen of consoles old but they really squeezed up the engines that they worked on very well so far.

 

The "old" gen really is almost ten years old though. Compare the specs on an Xbox or PS3 versus the minimum required specs on PC, they aren't even close.

 

Also - DAI is huge. It's bigger than Skyrim and GTA V, certainly. And those games were both stretching the old hardware quite a bit.

 

They obviously made it run on the old gen, warts and all - but that's about it. Optimizing it would have been at the expense of the newer, more powerful hardware. Do you really think it's a good idea to do that, in 2014?

 

Considering the huge install base of the old systems, it was probably inevitable that EA (and I am quite sure it was EA, Bioware would want to ensure that every version did their game justice) would insist on releasing them. But the results just weren't bound to be pretty - or optimally functional.

[Squallypo]

The "old" gen really is almost ten years old though. Compare the specs on an Xbox or PS3 versus the minimum required specs on PC, they aren't even close.

 

Also - DAI is huge. It's bigger than Skyrim and GTA V, certainly. And those games were both stretching the old hardware quite a bit.

 

They obviously made it run on the old gen, warts and all - but that's about it. Optimizing it would have been at the expense of the newer, more powerful hardware. Do you really think it's a good idea to do that, in 2014?

 

Considering the huge install base of the old systems, it was probably inevitable that EA (and I am quite sure it was EA, Bioware would want to ensure that every version did their game justice) would insist on releasing them. But the results just weren't bound to be pretty - or optimally functional.

 

it needs to be "optimal functional" there is not "they shouldnt have released this on old gen consoles" because they did, so they gotta stick with their cards and what they gotta do is fix this, make the game more playable, ive never said once i would expect this game to look like it does in a high end computer or new gen of consoles either, but it should make it justice and look much better than this, gta 5 is huge dude and while graphically they are both different it doesnt look bad either, and thats just one of the things they need to "optimize" for all the old gen console gamers that got this game, and you know what i mean ( all those bugs and freeze issues with his game make it to be broken and unplayable among other things)

[FKA_Servo]

We'll see what happens. I agree that GTA 5 looks great, but that's the absolute limit on that generation. It can't get any better. And DAI is huger. Plus, the evidence suggests that Rockstar hardly considers that the definitive version of the game, considering the care they've devoted to the current gen re-release, and the neglect they've shown to the original release.

 

We'll see what happens with the patch though. I agree that they should fix it, and hopefully they will. But I regard the old gen releases as a cash grab by EA.

 

Fingers crossed, though.

[Squallypo]

We'll see what happens. I agree that GTA 5 looks great, but that's the absolute limit on that generation. It can't get any better. And DAI is huger. Plus, the evidence suggests that Rockstar hardly considers that the definitive version of the game, considering the care they've devoted to the current gen re-release, and the neglect they've shown to the original release.

 

We'll see what happens with the patch though. I agree that they should fix it, and hopefully they will. But I regard the old gen releases as a cash grab by EA.

 

Fingers crossed, though.

 

well let say EA made the call because they know old gen have a huge base and im part of it, im not getting a new console any time soon so that being the case i would expect this to run and play just as fine as i would have expected it to be, again not like a high end up computer or new gen graphics but still superb for a ps3/xbox360 nothing more.

[FKA_Servo]

well let say EA made the call because they know old gen have a huge base and im part of it, im not getting a new console any time soon so that being the case i would expect this to run and play just as fine as i would have expected it to be, again not like a high end up computer or new gen graphics but still superb for a ps3/xbox360 nothing more.

 

In this case, I would temper your expectations. The PS4/Xbone can't even expect to run this game like a high end computer. The old systems, as a whole, are not powerful enough to give you a superb experience.

 

Again, I hope they fix it - but unless they can patch a more powerful CPU and more RAM onto the Xbox, I'm not sure it's gonna happen. Not sure it can happen.

[Pig Bodine]

In this case, I would temper your expectations. The PS4/Xbone can't even expect to run this game like a high end computer. The old systems, as a whole, are not powerful enough to give you a superb experience.

 

Again, I hope they fix it - but unless they can patch a more powerful CPU and more RAM onto the Xbox, I'm not sure it's gonna happen. Not sure it can happen.

I wouldn't care if a rift demon looked like this    as long as I could actually play the damn thing...

[tevix]

Skyrim does not use frostbite. It's also a bad example, and here's why.

 

In order to develop and and optimize Skyrim to run reasonably well on Xbox, it was hobbled on the PC. The limitations imposed in order to maximize it on the vastly underpowered older hardware are such that even on a very powerful PC, one that should be able to handle a beautiful, heavily modded game, the performance is pretty atrocious. It requires a bunch of fiddling to fix the memory allocation, and eventually (because it's a 32bit program and cannot benefit from more than 4gb RAM), you hit the memory limit. The game hangs, you crash, or it's rendered virtually unplayable due to low frame rate. Those beautiful screenshots that people post - if you play the game like that, it would be a slide show. On my PC, Inquisition, a beautiful game from 2014, runs exponentially better than Skyrim, a (potentially) beautiful game from 2011.

 

Bioware obviously optimized for new gen systems and PC at the expense of the old gen - and it's for the best. And let's face it - eventually you're gonna have a game that you want to play, but can't. Eventually, you've just gotta upgrade.

 

EA should not have released the games on old gen systems though. That was a mistake.

But they did, and people paid full price for it.  They either deserve all of their money back, or a working copy.

[SkinnyN7]

In this case, I would temper your expectations. The PS4/Xbone can't even expect to run this game like a high end computer. The old systems, as a whole, are not powerful enough to give you a superb experience.

 

Again, I hope they fix it - but unless they can patch a more powerful CPU and more RAM onto the Xbox, I'm not sure it's gonna happen. Not sure it can happen.

 You do know not every old gen version is broken right? some people are getting it to work fine? My problem seems to be the installing the game it plays for a time then crashes then I reinstall and it works fine till the next crash point. so yeah it can be fixed and it can work on old gen.

[Squallypo]

But they did, and people paid full price for it.  They either deserve all of their money back, or a working copy.

This is correct

[Teflonlove]

I have traded in my Xbox 360 copy today and got most of my money back. They should have not released DA:I for PS3/360 in its current (buggy and lack of textures) state. I hope in the future that they will release a patch to fix most of the problems.

For now I'm upgrading to the the PS4 version (Yay for Black Friday sales). However, I'll still be advocating for 360 and PS3 users to get the version we all paid full price for.

[Squallypo]

I have traded in my Xbox 360 copy today and got most of my money back. They should have not released DA:I for PS3/360 in its current (buggy and lack of textures) state. I hope in the future that they will release a patch to fix most of the problems.
For now I'm upgrading to the the PS4 version (Yay for Black Friday sales). However, I'll still be advocating for 360 and PS3 users to get the version we all paid full price for.

I don't see why we should be forced to get a pd4/Xbox 1 to be able to play this game more properly I fail to understand that. They made the game for ps3/360 should be perfectly playable but its not because of the issues it has but it should be fixed which it can.

[Teflonlove]

I don't see why we should be forced to get a pd4/Xbox 1 to be able to play this game more properly I fail to understand that. They made the game for ps3/360 should be perfectly playable but its not because of the issues it has but it should be fixed which it can.

I wasn't suggesting to get a PS4/Xbox One copy. I would still have my 360 copy if I didn't get a PS4. Yes, 360/PS3 versions are playable when it isn't crashing, freezing, having garbled dialogue, bad texture pop in and etc. It is a poor release based on these problems alone. I hope these issues can be fixed with patching or at least improved.

[Mark Ran]

Im playing on Xbox 360 and I am having a lot of texture issues like texture popping. Another big issues is that some of the characters faces are just ugly and needed texture. 

 

There are some audio bugs as well. For example, dialogue sometimes messes up and speeds up when companies talk in the overworld. There are also issues of dialogue lagging so I have to wait for a minute or two, waiting for the dialogue to catch up to the action. 

[SammySam]

I'm playing on Xbox 360 and am experiening serious slow down and slow motion during combat, to the point where it appears I'm the only one doing anything.

 

My party members stop dead

The Enemy stops dead

 

The slow motion is happening every combat, and now ut's got to the point where they're stopping dead for anywhere up to 8-10 seconds, and then the game speeds up, every spell goes off in a furry of effects and what not.

 

Seriously, seriously, annoying.

 

As well as the usual texture pop ins, no party banter stuff.

[Squallypo]

i decided to play a little more on my gameplay and i found issues with the sound during combat, also when i had a conversation with cassandra the chat got stuck to the point of me forcing the skip on the dialog lol it was weird, although i know this issues have already been listed before ive others as well but not worth mentioning them, they already are listed as well.

[mrwubwubz]

Frederics Livlihood side quest glitch needs to be addressed as well. some of the camps did not load in correcly and i have tried everything possible. xbox 360

[raging_monkey]

Crashes when respeccing on 360

[Pig Bodine]

Been looking forward to this all year and I'm loving it. The mountains, the wildlife, riding on the back of mighty steeds, the crafting system, the archery, upgradeable weapons, the racing, the rattle of my AK47 in the morning as I take down another compound... wait, a minute, that's Far Cry 4. Which is what I'm playing until they release a patch that fixes the disc unreadable error that makes Inquisition crash every ten minutes on my Xbox 360.

[tevix]

It'd be nice if bioware gave us the ubisoft treatment on this one.

[SkinnyN7]

8th time downloaded and reinstalled still not working this game has been one giant waste of time

[Jay84]

Any word on if they are going to patch this? I know patches are comming but has ANYONE from Bio-failure said "ps3 and 360"?

[Squallypo]

its a shame what bioware has become now, and what it used to be before.

[Pig Bodine]

Any word on if they are going to patch this? I know patches are comming but has ANYONE from Bio-failure said "ps3 and 360"?

Yes they have, patches across all 5 platforms, but they haven't mentioned what issues will be addressed- just what won't- ie party banter. I've got a feeling they will fix some minor issues but leave what are game breaking ones for some platforms.

[Panda]

Cameron stated couple days ago that first patch is coming very soon. I just wonder how long is very soon. People have so different time perceptions.

[Squallypo]

Cameron stated couple days ago that first patch is coming very soon. I just wonder how long is very soon. People have so different time perceptions.

By the end of December probably