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Old gen (PS3 and XBOX360) master thread, Bioware please fix these issues!


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Sorry to derail the conversation, but because this is the old gen thread, I wondered if someone else here might have encountered the issue I'm having:

 

Between myself and my roommate, we've played 400 hours (easily) since the game came out on the Xbox 360. And even though the troubleshooting for the banter glitch has worked, we've notice something:

 

In battle, in none of our saves, do characters *say* anything. They don't yell for help, they don't yell if they or someone else gets KO'ed, they don't celebrate a kill, Iron Bull doesn't even yell at dragons--none of it.

 

EA chat support (I went through three separate reps yesterday) doesn't seem to know what to make of this. I've gotten no response on the technical support forum, and Google isn't turning up anything. Has anyone else had this problem or something like it?

 

I've noticed the same thing. I didn't even know there was suppose to be banter during battle until I played a couple of hours of the PC-version. 

I have the no banter issue as well but so far none of the work arounds has worked. Which one did you use?



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I vaguely remember characters uttering stuff in battle but it wasn't much



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I've noticed the same thing. I didn't even know there was suppose to be banter during battle until I played a couple of hours of the PC-version. 

I have the no banter issue as well but so far none of the work arounds has worked. Which one did you use?

Whoa!  they are supposed to banter during fights?



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I've noticed the same thing. I didn't even know there was suppose to be banter during battle until I played a couple of hours of the PC-version. 

I have the no banter issue as well but so far none of the work arounds has worked. Which one did you use?

 

For us, making sure that no journal entries under current/completed quests or collections or codex entries were flagged as 'new' helped a bit.



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Whoa!  they are supposed to banter during fights?

 

Yes. They are even supposed to come with comments after the fight as well.



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So it looks like this is a problem for previous-gen console owners?

 

(I didn't turn up anything for ages and thought it was just me.)



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For us, making sure that no journal entries under current/completed quests or collections or codex entries were flagged as 'new' helped a bit.

 

I do that religiously. I thought it helped a bit too, but after Patch 2 the audio has become way worse and I get even less banter than before and the journal/codex trick does absolutely nothing.

I'm going to delete and re-install the game one more time, but if nothing changes for the better then I'm giving up on fixes and workarounds.



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So it looks like this is a problem for previous-gen console owners?

 

(I didn't turn up anything for ages and thought it was just me.)

 

I can't say for sure. It is one of those problems that seems to effect some copies of the game across all platforms. BioWare is aware of the issue and last I heard something they were working on it but since the code itself runs perfectly they couldn't replicate the bug/problem and sadly since they can't replicate it they can't find the issue and deal with it.

There might have been some development on that front but since the no banter thing is just one of many bugs and glitches I've dealt with, I haven't focused on keeping up with the threads focusing on it.



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Oh wow! I had no idea there was supposed to be banter in battle or following one. As it is I have barely any banter going on just in normal travels. Sigh, my disappointment in Bioware grows more each time I check in here. Each day or so I log in hoping that maybe Bioware acknowledged our issues, but again nope.


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Hey do you guys remember "Silent hill HD" the way that had to be RECALLED beacuse it was so buggy? Yeah... DAI on last gen must be about 3x worse and nothing not even a patch.


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#1736
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Oh wow! I had no idea there was supposed to be banter in battle or following one. As it is I have barely any banter going on just in normal travels. Sigh, my disappointment in Bioware grows more each time I check in here. Each day or so I log in hoping that maybe Bioware acknowledged our issues, but again nope.

 

It seems you are having the no banter bug too. There are some work arounds, but no fix, at least not one that I know of. There is a thread somewhere here on the forum that lists the work arounds. So far they haven't done much for me, but they have for some. I hope you are one of the lucky people who they'll work for. :)

 

And I feel the same way you do. I feel like BioWare has let us down, and continues to let us down by giving us the silent treatment when we turn to them to report errors in a game they've designed. 



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Banter during battle and after battle?

Just... wow...

 

This game has a solid chance to win the Bug Of The Year Award for 2014 and 2015 altogether! He will totally blast Skyrim Black Hole style!

 

Well, more seriously, even before the patch I doesn't get a lot of banters. Perhaps it was one of the thing they needed to cut down for the PS360 version. If not, there is a mountain of work on the desk...


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Banter during battle and after battle?

Just... wow...

 

This game has a solid chance to win the Bug Of The Year Award for 2014 and 2015 altogether! He will totally blast Skyrim Black Hole style!

 

Well, more seriously, even before the patch I doesn't get a lot of banters. Perhaps it was one of the thing they needed to cut down for the PS360 version. If not, there is a mountain of work on the desk...

 

It wasn't. My co-worker plays the game on Xbox360 and we were talking about the bugs and stuff, and I complained about the fact that I got like one exchange of banter in maybe three hours of game-time and that my character never joined in, and he went: "You kidding me? My party never shuts up!" So clearly there should be a lot more banter than what some of us are getting.



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Well, we better keep searching for bug on the PS360. They just shut down the thread dedicated to the PC gamers.



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Well, we better keep searching for bug on the PS360. They just shut down the thread dedicated to the PC gamers.

 

I was a bit stunned by that. I thought us old gen folk where the only group getting ignored.



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I have seen the word "strawmen" a lot lately on boards. What does it mean? I know what a strawman is, but what does it mean in this context?

 

I pointed out that saying Bioware released the game knowing it wouldn't work for 360 users is a conspiracy theory, and blatantly ignores facts. Octarin found that argument FAR too difficult to argue against, so instead he pushed a different statement onto me ("You think people having real problems are conspiracy theories?") and argued against that instead. That's the very definition of a strawman, and he's been doing it the whole God-damn day.



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all this bad mojo it not going anywhere since they will surely not listen too the fan......strange don't you think a while back when i was follow the game production they say we listen too the fan base and now that the game is done they stop listen to us,since they got the game of the year and a lot of money out of it



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I think people need to take a deep breath and calm down, developers won't respond to people when they're generating such a toxic atmosphere.

 

At the end of the day open world games are notoriously difficult to quality check. Most of the open-world games I've played had some problems associated with it. Red Dead Redemption crashed for me every 15 minutes and regretfully I never was able to play it, Oblivion started giving me issues about 50 hours in and of course Skyrim is virtually unplayable on the PS3. I don't know if GTA ever gave any problems because I've never played them...

 

Also this is Bioware's first open-world game since BG2. The content seems enjoyable but yes there are problems all over the place. That just comes with inexperience. It's gonna take them a long time to fix (PC issues, multi-platform issues, last gen issues) and yelling and throwing insults won't exactly make them work faster.

 

Things like "a lot of people suspect you released the games on old-gen consoles knowing full well they wouldn't work" is just blatently ignoring the facts, which are that a lot of people can play the game just fine on old-gen consoles. Statements like this may have been why you were blocked on Facebook.

The atmosphere is toxic BECAUSE they won't respond.  They gave pc players a sticky thread and give them all kinds of attention.  Current-gen has few issues.  Last gen is an untested unfinished fraud.  Stop making excuses for companies who don't do their jobs.


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I was referring to the bureaucracy involved in patch deployment, not the hardware of the old gen consoles.

 

The following guy gets it.

 

Oh well. Joke lost on you then. 



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Sorry to derail the conversation, but because this is the old gen thread, I wondered if someone else here might have encountered the issue I'm having:

 

Between myself and my roommate, we've played 400 hours (easily) since the game came out on the Xbox 360. And even though the troubleshooting for the banter glitch has worked, we've notice something:

 

In battle, in none of our saves, do characters *say* anything. They don't yell for help, they don't yell if they or someone else gets KO'ed, they don't celebrate a kill, Iron Bull doesn't even yell at dragons--none of it.

 

EA chat support (I went through three separate reps yesterday) doesn't seem to know what to make of this. I've gotten no response on the technical support forum, and Google isn't turning up anything. Has anyone else had this problem or something like it?

 

I seem to remember them saying a few things, but not the way you describe. I remember Solas and Cassandra calling out to the mages and templars in the beginning, stuff like that, but no random voices like KOs etc.



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Banter during battle and after battle?

Just... wow...

 

This game has a solid chance to win the Bug Of The Year Award for 2014 and 2015 altogether! He will totally blast Skyrim Black Hole style!

 

Well, more seriously, even before the patch I doesn't get a lot of banters. Perhaps it was one of the thing they needed to cut down for the PS360 version. If not, there is a mountain of work on the desk...

 

Damn I wish I could like this post. So much awesome right here.^^



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The atmosphere is toxic BECAUSE they won't respond.  They gave pc players a sticky thread and give them all kinds of attention.  Current-gen has few issues.  Last gen is an untested unfinished fraud.  Stop making excuses for companies who don't do their jobs.

 

Don't worry about him, he's an apologist troll. 



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The atmosphere is toxic BECAUSE they won't respond.  They gave pc players a sticky thread and give them all kinds of attention.  Current-gen has few issues.  Last gen is an untested unfinished fraud.  Stop making excuses for companies who don't do their jobs.

 

Your hyperbole isn't helping matters, it is not unfinished and I highly doubt it's untested. 

 

And the atmosphere was toxic on the forums BEFORE they stopped responding.



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Your hyperbole isn't helping matters, it is not unfinished and I highly doubt it's untested. 

 

And the atmosphere was toxic on the forums BEFORE they stopped responding.

 

They don't respond anywhere and what's even bigger problem is lack of communication in their side in terms of what they know are issues and what they are going to fix. Also you can go far with simple apology as well.


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Your hyperbole isn't helping matters, it is not unfinished and I highly doubt it's untested.

And the atmosphere was toxic on the forums BEFORE they stopped responding.


What? I think there are plenty of things that seem unfinished. Skyhold, for example.