I'm not trying to shut people up, I'm giving perspective to the general hysteria which seems to run amok in situations like these. Instead of thinking "the man is out to get me" maybe you should try and understand WHY the comment was removed from Facebook. Or you can put your fingers in your ears like Octarin, who became overcome with emotion long ago. It may be understandable, but it won't help.
Nope.
Of course, except a lot of what I see isn't organising. It's wallowing, engaging in abuse, and wailing. And whenever someone provides perspective on the issue, it's also dismissal. There's a LOT of assumptions, false facts and accusations flowing around. I come here to point it out and I'm a troll? Or is it something else.....
Strawman, I've never said anything remotely similar.
When people started trying to paint a significant portion of the old-gen userbase as having problems, I came on to point out that there's no evidence of such a thing. As an old-gen user I find some of the hyperbole and accusations to be getting a bit ridiculous, and so I participated. You should note I don't comment on the PC issues, or the new-gen issues, because I don't own said games. You'll note there was a significant number of people posting on the first page of this thread that they don't have any issues, yet you didn't have an issue with them posting because...?
Something else I never said, or implied. I did tell Octarin to stop talking if she had nothing else to say, because her hysterics are tiresome. I suppose you don't have to listen to me, you can put your fingers in your ears like Octarin has. That won't stop me replying because I will correct any hyperbole or hysterics I see for the benefit of guests or other users of the forum. Call it a character fault of mine *shrugs*
There is no general hysteria.
Up to now I've certainly been nothing but polite.
The only reason I put the last post up was because you accused someone of hyperbole when there was none- the most you could accuse them of was a deliberate attempt to shoe in the issue this forum is dedicated to onto a post that Bioware put up that has nothing to do with the issue, because a) they were being comic and b ) they were trying to get the message out there.
Quoting you- "I've got no problem with them deleting that comment. It a) contained hyperbole which b ) was being used weirdly to try and invalidate statistics (oh, the Xbox360 problems are focusing on women gamers who prefer to play as women characters and thus the stats are skewed. Please take them down *rolls eyes*)"-
Sorry but that seems to be a... ahem, strawman.
Go read their post again.
It seems to me that all it is saying is that they wish someone would fix this game, and I quote their comment which you critiqued " several lady gamers are here having xbox's with unplayable discs..." that is the only reference to gender- She is mock engaging with the article which is about gender and then bringing up the problems we are here to get fixed, that is all.
So, if you have no problem with Bioware deleting their comment then you do just want the person who posted to shut up.
Again I don't understand why you're posting here, what do you hope to achieve?
I know you're probably going to reply to this and I know it may seem a tacit admission of defeat to walk away, but I'm wondering whether it would be for the best to not reply to you again, because I need this thread to be about the issue, not an argument that will eventually disolve into a question of redundant semantics- with you crying strawman every 30 secs.
I think we may not win this fight. I agree with you. However i don't understand why you want to just pour cold water on the concept of even trying. If you look back at previous posts I was more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt as to why you originally chipped in.
Now that you're not helping in any way, again, why are you here?
Boredom?
I was going to joke- "Some form of anti-Social Justice? A medal from your local debating society?"
Then i read that again and thought, that's just a bit prickly.
I apologise.
Look I'm sure you're here because you think some people are being hysterical.
Ok that's an opinion but it's not one most of us share, now what?
You want me to engage with that opinion again?
You think bioware should delete Octarin's 'hysterical' opinion- who made you the judge of that?
No-one's opinion is more important than the next mans.
Maybe Bioware is right and we should just shut up, that seems to be there's.
it's not mine.
I'm here for one thing, a somewhat naive attempt to get this game fixed. That's all. i don't believe Bioware are corrupt, have an agenda or there is a conspiracy. I just think they're like most corporations, somewhat incompetent on occasion.
I'd just like to play Dragon Age and so does everyone on here.
If you think we're all hysterical- don't enter the nuthouse.
I just want to get the game fixed, I'm not here to apportion blame or judge others for their opinions- unless they throw the first stone.
Thanks again for your input.
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