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#2176
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I have a PS3 a couple of years old and haven't had many of the problems most people list here. Mainly it was the game hanging at inopportune moments. I learnt pretty quickly not to walk around Skyhold until the disk icon had finished turning, for example.

 

Since the 1.04 patch yesterday, I've had the following new problems:

 

- party members arriving at a camp from skyhold at 50% and 75% health (easy enough to remedy)

- left Griffon Keep, went into a fight and found I had zero health potions, despite etc etc

 

- left Skyhold to head for Fallow Mire, and my mage Inquisitor arrived without her armour (in Skyhold clothes, basically), a generic “mage cowl” rated at zero armour, and no accessories or staff equipped

- Fade Step working (in that the Dorian went whizzing across screen), but he redrew in the same spot he’d started from (twice, now)

 

Also, since the patch I’ve had NO party banter at all (I had it before, no problem…)
 



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So by taking out the chest farming, the next playthrough is going to be really annoying.  We will run the possibility of not being able to get certain schematics.  



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Anybody else still getting that annoying "Chat has been disabled" message at the menu screen on XBox 360?  I hate it.  Could have fixed that with this patch.



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so the patch does not make things better it make it worse



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Recall the damn game BW its a total failure on last gen and your "patches" are a damn joke.


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I've dowloaded the patch and gave it a go on one save I had which was at 3/4 of the story and nothing seem to have changed much - no party banter, shoddy graphics, no music, hardly any ambient conversations at Skyhold and some problems with stuttering conversations - then I tried a save for a PC which I had just started and had just reached the Hinterlands. I had 4 instances of party banter in an hour of playthrough, which was better than the complete silence in the previous one, but got a weird glitch with one of the refugees at the crossroads where I couldn't get to talk to hiim. I saved the game, got to the menu and reloaded, after that I could speak to the guy and complete the quest.

As I said, it doesn't look like this patch has introduced any big fixes and at least it hasn't broken any of my previous save, but I don't know about the other people on 360 that had major problems like not been able to start up the game. Hopefully things will improve for you.

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So I take it this doesn't fix the xbox disc unreadable error?

 

If that is the case- all the time they were telling us to wait for a patch, well that was just a delay tactic to get as many as possible of us to no longer care and to give up bothering them... they STILL haven't fixed the game. It still keeps crashing on xbox and ps3- and I don't think they can fix it. However they won't own up to it, won't take responsibility and sure as hell won't refund. Now is the time we need to start hammering them on social media again. It may not do anything but I for one do not want them to think they have just succeeded in sweeping us under the carpet.

 

I am disgusted by this.

 

Go to EA Help.

Wait for the patch.

Cross your fingers.

Pray to Andraste.

 

Obfuscation has been their tactics from day one.

 

Oh no we screwed up, we can't fix it, can't/ won't admit it and we don't care because look at the sales figures.

 

I know we're in a minority for the game being fully unplayable- but it's a buggy mess for other people too and goddamit this thread has over 87,000 views- that's a lot of people searching for why this game doesn't work on their console.

 

Please keep spreading the petition- please keep bugging devs, this is a disgrace.

I managed to get to Val Royeaux (After 6 or 7 restarts due to freezing and crashes) and I am back to where I was before. Continuous freezing. I thought maybe when it started to work a bit yesterday I got lucky and the useless hotfix patch did something to at least minimize the freezing but I am back to a completely unplayable game. 

 

Yes, they have been doing nothing but beclouding this game every step of the way, and it seems they are content with their sales and care nothing for the quality of their product. This is terribly ridiculous... Maker, I am so very angry, I just want to lash out with a slew of foul language directed at every dev and the BW "quality control" cronies who are supposedly "following" these threads. If I thought they would actually read it, I probably would. 

 

They aren't getting rid of me so easy, I will be a thorn in their side until I am satisfied that they are actually DOING something about this situation and not just trying to write it off. They need to at least START to fix this NOW, not LATER, and stop whining about the negative reactions/comments they are getting (which are rightly deserved, IMHO). Because so far, other than lame patch notes, thats all I have really seen them post in the last month.

 

Everyone who I have tried to contact and inform about this has completely ignored me, I have gotten no responses whatsoever. Maybe I will make a Twitter account... the one place I haven't tried.


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One thing me and my girlfriend want is them to patch the old gen games so we can install the 2nd disc and get rid of the disc spinning and over heating issues. This would eliminate the game freezing. The mini-freezes that we seem to be encountering and so on. If that would just be allowed it would fix a lot of issues we believe. Still nothing on that at all.


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#2184
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Recall the damn game BW its a total failure on last gen and your "patches" are a damn joke.

If this is the best they can do then they might as well. What's the point of giving us a PC fix patch? Since I am assuming it was designed to fix things that are broken... on PC. Or it wouldn't have been released as such.

 

Was that like, "Here's a sweetroll, now shut your traps."


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The disc just stops spinning when it reaches 100% for Synchronizing Trophies.  You can literally hear the disc come to a halt spinning when it gets to that point and it just stays there for a good 2-3 minutes before existing back to the XMB home page.



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Updated OP with patch 3+4 and how it works or doesn't work.



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They are just waging a war of attrition.

 

Waiting for us to give up campaigning.

 

They only hold out the possibility of a solution as it stalls for time- by the time we work out it's bullhicky another tranch of us has given up campaigning.

It is either a) impossible, b ) they think it's impossible and they're not adept enough to fix it or c ) it's simply financially not worth it for them to deal with the freezing issues.

 

I'm guessing the latter.

It's an intermittent fault- effected by console, motherboard, individual disc error, etc...

 

Well, great.

 

Through their egrigious behaviour, through not taking responsibility, they've just created a small army of people who are going to keep kicking against every positive post they put up about their despicable company.

Maybe that doesn't matter.

Maybe there are not enough of us to put in the time to encourage enough people to not buy from Bioware- or at least to only buy second hand copies of their games.

 

Probably they've won.

 

What a triumph- taking someone for example, like myself, who's loved Bioware games since Jade Empire and vocally supported them as a shining example of fun, well written, inclusive and immersive rpgs and turning them into someone who perceives them as what they are- a shining example of what's wrong with business practices as we stagger, hungover into the twenty first century.

 

I've always understood that the bottom line is all that matters- and that the values that are sold to us in multibillion pound narratives of hope, justice and caring for all are just lip service paid by corporations to our naive notions of humanity.

However, for a brief post war period- when govts were in debt to the sacrifice of their populace &  were frightened of revolution- it felt like we actually had some rights of redress.

That if a company sold goods that didn't work it would own up, apologise, and rectify it's mistakes. Be held accountable by law.

However if you're from Europe and you want to see what's coming for consumers, where we're going next, just google the take on the TTIP trade agreement that the Green party has.

 

Of course EA is American and Bioware is owned by them.

And EA has won awards for the worst customer service in America- personally I think that's unfair.

 

After all, EA has NO customer service- they have no complaints dept. for hecks sake.

 

They have a place to report faults, (for their own convenience), and no place to actually hold them to account.

 

No manager callback, no- yes we know this fault exists and we'll have it fixed in x number of weeks, no refund for those who can't get a full one from the stores they bought from- having held onto this game in the expectation it would be fixed.

 

I think we've waited long enough, don't you?

 

Any suggestions as to how else we can stick in their craw will be greatfully received.


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Still nothing, huh? I think at this point I'm just willing to soak my losses and shelve the damn thing until Bioware gets around to making it worth touching. If ever.

 

I can't even remember the last time I picked up a game where the port was this god-awful. Maybe one of the year one 360 releases, or one of the PS2 to Xbox ports.

 

I was willing to give them a chance after DA2 and ME3 - but flawed games that I enjoyed nonetheless, but DAI is just too botched all around to be enjoyable. The game itself is lifeless and soulless, and the porting job was so badly done I'd hesitate to call it half-assed.

 

They got my money this time, congratulations. After the way I've been treated with DAI - especially this version - I sincerely doubt Bioware will get my money again. Even Ubisoft works faster than this, and they're the current internet whipping boy.



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I have XBOX360 on disc version and only bug I have noticed thus far is the 12th Mosaic piece in Hinterlands being god knows friggin where (according to videos on youtube its inside a cliff) at Wolf Hollow.



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They are just waging a war of attrition.

 

Waiting for us to give up campaigning.

 

They only hold out the possibility of a solution as it stalls for time- by the time we work out it's bullhicky another tranch of us has given up campaigning.

It is either a) impossible, b ) they think it's impossible and they're not adept enough to fix it or c ) it's simply financially not worth it for them to deal with the freezing issues.

 

I'm guessing the latter.

It's an intermittent fault- effected by console, motherboard, individual disc error, etc...

 

Well, great.

 

Through their egrigious behaviour, through not taking responsibility, they've just created a small army of people who are going to keep kicking against every positive post they put up about their despicable company.

Maybe that doesn't matter.

Maybe there are not enough of us to put in the time to encourage enough people to not buy from Bioware- or at least to only buy second hand copies of their games.

 

Probably they've won.

 

What a triumph- taking someone for example, like myself, who's loved Bioware games since Jade Empire and vocally supported them as a shining example of fun, well written, inclusive and immersive rpgs and turning them into someone who perceives them as what they are- a shining example of what's wrong with business practices as we stagger, hungover into the twenty first century.

 

I've always understood that the bottom line is all that matters- and that the values that are sold to us in multibillion pound narratives of hope, justice and caring for all are just lip service paid by corporations to our naive notions of humanity.

However, for a brief post war period- when govts were in debt to the sacrifice of their populace &  were frightened of revolution- it felt like we actually had some rights of redress.

That if a company sold goods that didn't work it would own up, apologise, and rectify it's mistakes. Be held accountable by law.

However if you're from Europe and you want to see what's coming for consumers, where we're going next, just google the take on the TTIP trade agreement that the Green party has.

 

Of course EA is American and Bioware is owned by them.

And EA has won awards for the worst customer service in America- personally I think that's unfair.

 

After all, EA has NO customer service- they have no complaints dept. for hecks sake.

 

They have a place to report faults, (for their own convenience), and no place to actually hold them to account.

 

No manager callback, no- yes we know this fault exists and we'll have it fixed in x number of weeks, no refund for those who can't get a full one from the stores they bought from- having held onto this game in the expectation it would be fixed.

 

I think we've waited long enough, don't you?

 

Any suggestions as to how else we can stick in their craw will be greatfully received.

Maybe if we could get a group of people together, consolidate our efforts and just mass message one individual a day (like a dev or a journo who writes reviews/criticism, though I would prefer EA/BW employees) , and continue going through a set list. If we appear more organized, it should help. Not to mention getting bombed with the same message over and over again from different individuals is going to get extremely annoying, really quickly.

 

Nothing nasty or anything, just a direct concise message.


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#2191
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Find a lawyer. Sue their ass. Can't do, but it's the only thing to which they'll respond. Everything else, they'll dutifully ignore. So, we're just wasting time here. 



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LOL, just saw this. Wow. Well, just. wow.

 

http://forum.bioware...return-to-form/

 

Right. Speechless.


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LOL, just saw this. Wow. Well, just. wow.

 

http://forum.bioware...return-to-form/

 

Right. Speechless.

 

I made my feelings clear in that thread.

 

Right, a buggy game that won't even run on some consoles is "a return to form"?

 

If that's true then I'm the Empress of Orlais!

 

I just love how they are more interested in patching glitches people actually liked, (chest cloning & item multiplying), rather than fixing things so people can actually play the game.



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Maybe if we could get a group of people together, consolidate our efforts and just mass message one individual a day (like a dev or a journo who writes reviews/criticism, though I would prefer EA/BW employees) , and continue going through a set list. If we appear more organized, it should help. Not to mention getting bombed with the same message over and over again from different individuals is going to get extremely annoying, really quickly.

 

Nothing nasty or anything, just a direct concise message.

Ok, let's play...

 

Help a dev.

 

Coming live from the Noblame Theatre in beautiful downtown Burbank, and using the list so helpfully provided by Panda at the start of the thread...

 

What list?

 

"On forums you can PM to Allan Schumacher, Conal Pierce, Mark Darrah and Cameron Lee."

 

This weeks winner is... (drum roll)

 

Aaaaaallaaaaan Schumacher.

 

Yes!

 

All this week I say we message Allan Schumacher with this, "Inquisition still crashing on the ps360 generation, where's the patch that fixes it?"- notice how snappy that is- why it's almost like you could tweet it to him as well as sending it on facebook and the forum here and any other way you can. Does anyone have an email address for him? :) Seriously, please post it if you do... and change your signature to highlight this weeks winner as I've done if you've got the time, Cheers!

 

Oh, and by the by, 178 signatures...


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#2195
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Tried the new patch.

 

One banter per hour.

 

I have only 5 hours on my new game, so I don't know if this will work but I seriously just want to finish the game once, before putting this disc back in the box and give it for free at a S&M dongeon.


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#2196
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Ask not what this thread can do for you, ask what you can do for this thread...

 

I've just messaged this weeks Dev-Chat Roulette Winner, why haven't you?

 

See below for details....



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Well I feel like a buffoon.  The game indeed does load up on the Super Slim PS3.  

 

After useless other methods, like deleting the game install data, rebuilding the database, etc.  

After playing some MGS4, I decided to give DA:I another attempt.  Something told me to look at the business surface of the disc and wipe off any finger print marks.
I looked and there was indeed a few oily smuges on the disc which I wiped off using micro-fiber cloth.

Inserted game and it loaded up past the synchronizing trophies. 

 

 

I can't believe that was the root of the freeze.  Disc smudges.



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Well I feel like a buffoon.  The game indeed does load up on the Super Slim PS3.  

 

After useless other methods, like deleting the game install data, rebuilding the database, etc.  

After playing some MGS4, I decided to give DA:I another attempt.  Something told me to look at the business surface of the disc and wipe off any finger print marks.
I looked and there was indeed a few oily smuges on the disc which I wiped off using micro-fiber cloth.

Inserted game and it loaded up past the synchronizing trophies. 

 

 

I can't believe that was the root of the freeze.  Disc smudges.

Well now you can try playing it now!

 

So I had, still, the empty dialogue choice wheel.  I thought the patch was supposed to fix that.  Well among other things.  Haven't experienced a crash yet, so there's that.



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Well I feel like a buffoon.  The game indeed does load up on the Super Slim PS3.  

 

After useless other methods, like deleting the game install data, rebuilding the database, etc.  

After playing some MGS4, I decided to give DA:I another attempt.  Something told me to look at the business surface of the disc and wipe off any finger print marks.
I looked and there was indeed a few oily smuges on the disc which I wiped off using micro-fiber cloth.

Inserted game and it loaded up past the synchronizing trophies. 

 

 

I can't believe that was the root of the freeze.  Disc smudges.

You'd be surprised how much a smudge can cause immense amounts of chaos. XD However, I am still freezing at the black screen right after trophy sync. It would just get past sync (lagging of course). No smudges here, either. Sometimes the little loading symbol shows up, sometimes its just a black screen. It either freezes there, at the start screen, loading in, or sometimes in game (if I can make it that far).



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@Photoed - I had that problem with music CDs but never with a game. Happy to see that you can finally play the game and please let us know if encounter any bug.

I've been playing a bit to check if there were any improvements but nothing seem to have changed from before. It does fell very lonely when you going around and your squad mates try and ignore each other...:-(