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#76
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It also has no stupid time travel. Just ugh.

Yeah, time manipulation magic, I thought, was rather breaking with lore in what a normal mage could ever accomplish. But my main point was that art team knocked the visuals out of the park on that quest. To me, the mage quest ranks a little higher for me mostly due to the aesthetics.



#77
Br3admax

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They blamed it on the rifts before we enter Redcliffe. Still, yeah, pretty dumb. 



#78
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I still like her, the rebellion was needed and inevitable but I don't like how she never made an attempt to reveal herself to Alistair. 



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I still like her, the rebellion was needed and inevitable but I don't like how she never made an attempt to reveal herself to Alistair. 

Well its pretty obvious if its ever revealed that Alistair is elf blooded? Well that would most likely plunge fereldan into civil war again, hence why she chooses not to do so. 



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#81
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I still like her, the rebellion was needed and inevitable but I don't like how she never made an attempt to reveal herself to Alistair. 

What would that do? Alistair is not going to take it easy on her because she's his mother. She broke the terms and thus she was punished by him family relations be dammed.



#82
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Allying with a tevinter magister is not really a big deal. especially since she didnt know he was part of the venatori or what their goals where.  Templars using red lyrium but knowing what the effects are is a bit more damning, Suffice to say good old [spolier] cory [/spoiler]  managed to corrupt the entire system the chantry created and brought it down. that the templars wish to return to this status quo that has has all the solidity of a house of cards makes me want to support the mages and try something new and fresh.

 

Keeping her identity hidden was logical. it would create a shitstorm if they found out alaistar was elf blooded.



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Yeah, time manipulation magic, I thought, was rather breaking with lore in what a normal mage could ever accomplish. But my main point was that art team knocked the visuals out of the park on that quest. To me, the mage quest ranks a little higher for me mostly due to the aesthetics.

 

Its nor more lore breaking then the teleports.....err, I mean rapid movement spells they've added.

 

And yeah, time manipulation seemed a bit over the top for the setting but to my surprised, I found the mission really interesting.



#84
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I'll make my own judgment once I acquire the game (European) but, so far, if I didn't know better I'd call the mages the villains. Taken in as refugees and then selling their benefactors as slaves? Not very defensible
 

As for their options, from what I heard in this video and seen in others, Tevinters infiltrated the mage rebellion and encouraged Fiona to ally with Tevinter but, at the end of the day, it was entirely her choice. All she had to do was say "No" to it.

I for one, can't picture Teagan going along with it. What did the mages do? Attack Redcliff from the inside as they invaded? After all, if Teagan was sold but Fiona spared, I can only imagine she was seen a collaborator.

 

(That's a rhetorical question, don't spoil it, please) 

 

Fiona didn't know better, she hoped to be protected and everyone would go to Tevinter, instead they (even the children) have to work as "slaves" or soldiers for 10 years to pay the debt of Tevinter's protection. I'll say the Tevinters have trapped them to accept this deal.

 

Yes, it's her mistake, but the consequence is not what she wanted.



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#86
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What would that do? Alistair is not going to take it easy on her because she's his mother. She broke the terms and thus she was punished by him family relations be dammed.

 

He really approves if Inquisition takes her and mages. And at that point he doesn't even know she is his mother.



#87
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Fiona won't be talking about that in my game since she got a longsword in her gut back at Haven.

 

Yep. Gonna do it again my next run through too.



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FIONNNNNNAAAAA!



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#90
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lulu is talking about the after conversation.



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lulu is talking about the after conversation.

 

Of course, who cares about a random text appearing telling you who approves. She practically berates you back in haven.



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#93
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I don't actually pay attention to approval, as in the Templar siding Cass litteraly yells at you for siding with them, so I wouldn't pay attention to that stuff anyway.

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Of course, who cares about a random text appearing telling you who approves. She practically berates you back in haven.

 

Later on she says it was the correct decision, so... She actually says you made the correct decision she wouldn't have. There goes that idea, then. 



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Later on she says it was the correct decision, so... She actually says you made the correct decision she wouldn't have. There goes that idea, then. 

 

 

She says that if you side with mages and ally yourself with them too. (not imprisoning them). Cassadnra berates you for siding with Templars without disbanding them or siding with mages and not taking them prisoners but she tells you it was the right decision later on because whatever choice you make it will work. This means nothing, she prefers them disbanded. And later on tells you she knew you'd make the right choice if you disband them. She never takes a side in mage/Templar war. Amusingly she argues with Cullen that mages are a better choice though. (in a sense that once side has to be picked)



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She definitely prefers the Templars the entire game.

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She definitely prefers the Templars the entire game.

 

So that's why she always argues with Cullen AGAINST Templars, good to know. Templars need more people like her on their side. And its so obvious and blatant that I think you muted the volume and closed your eyes to miss it. The minute you are all gathered in the room for the first time she says we immediately need the mages and argues with Cullen about how Templars can't do it. She simply doesn't believe Templars can help with the breach and its a logical view. We have no instance of Templars closing any breach but mages have closed them in the past. She only starts to "prefer" Templars once you side with them.



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Mages have never closed Breaches in the past, this is the first of its kind



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So that's why she always argues with Cullen AGAINST Templars, good to know. 

And then she meets the mages.

 

 

Templars need more people like her on their side. And its so obvious and blatant that I think you muted the volume and closed your eyes to miss it. 

Suggest meeting Fiona after Val Royeaux, Cassandra express a need to consider the Templars. Suggest meeting the Templars, Cassandra agrees. Someone obviously wasn't paying attention. 

 

 

The minute you are all gathered in the room for the first time she says we immediately need the mages and argues with Cullen about how Templars can't do it. She simply doesn't believe Templars can help with the breach and its a logical view. We have no instance of Templars closing any breach but mages have closed them in the past. She only starts to "prefer" Templars once you side with them.

And then she meets "Fiona" and all that goes down the drain. When she meets Fiona in Redcliffe she's completely sure then that the mages are simply trying to gain the favor they lost back. That with her constant insulting of them should make it obvious who she prefers, even when you discount approval. It's not that hard really. 



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Mages have never closed Breaches in the past, this is the first of its kind

 

"Never". Right. Indeed they have, not that big though. These new breaches are obviously unique and are called rifts. Previous veil tears, if small enough, were easily closed by mages with a lot of Lyrium (circle mages), blood mages (Avernus) or fade entities (Sophia Dryden).