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I went back to the Haven, recently. After splunking in the Hinterlands, quite frankly we got bored, it was the first time I even talked to Cassandra and Bioware thinks it okay for me to just hit on her?

 

Really?

 

Last time I checked this ain't how romances go.

 

Not that I choose the option to do so. I couldn't go through with it. From a character point of view as a Dalish elf, from a personality view, he's very graceful, and elegant, kind of somebody who is selfless and cares a lot about the big picture as a whole for everybody. He's not really a hero type though as he denounces being a Herald, often, he finds it kind of creepy for people to be calling him a Chosen one, because he's a Dalish elf. He just wants to fix the problem, without having to go through the whole chosen one and herald politics.

 

Despite that it would feel very out of character to flirt with another party member. Let alone the first ever conversation we ever had.



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Despite that it would feel very out of character to flirt with another party member. Let alone the first ever conversation we ever had.

 

Then don't pick the dialogue option.

 

The option lets you flirt with the NPC, now it's up to you to see if that's what fiits your PC and pick accordingly.


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Then don't pick the dialogue option.

 

The option lets you flirt with the NPC, now it's up to you to see if that's what fiits your PC and pick accordingly.

 

You can admit it does feel creepy though?

 

This thread was suppose to be like a "lol, yeah it's kind of weird"

 

I didn't choose the dialogue because it feels really weird, "oh hey I just met you and was unconscious for a while too, I'm going to flirt with you now, okay"


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Love at first sight ... that's not creepy


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Being able to flirt with people you've just met could be a character-defining trait. Maybe you want your Inquisitor to be a hopeless romantic, or a perpetual flirt. Point being, just because the option to flirt is there that doesn't mean that you have to take it. As far as I know, the only way to lock yourself out of being able to flirt with a potential love interest is to lock in a romance with someone else, so you shouldn't feel compelled to take every flirt option that shows up.


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You can admit it does feel creepy though?

 

This thread was suppose to be like a "lol, yeah it's kind of weird"

 

I didn't choose the dialogue because it feels really weird, "oh hey I just met you and was unconscious for a while too, I'm going to flirt with you now, okay"

I had my first heart option before I left Haven. I was a bit reluctant for fear what she might say. It was a nice supportive sentiment that was entirely appropriate at that point. It was not with Cassandra, though.

 

Maybe it's a choose early kind of thing. If you don't set it up from the start maybe you'll have that creepy effect because you missed some opportunities to go slower?.



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I always flirt with women I don't know. Thats why I'm posting here instead of having a family


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Being able to flirt with people you've just met could be a character-defining trait. Maybe you want your Inquisitor to be a hopeless romantic, or a perpetual flirt. Point being, just because the option to flirt is there that doesn't mean that you have to take it. As far as I know, the only way to lock yourself out of being able to flirt with a potential love interest is to lock in a romance with someone else, so you shouldn't feel compelled to take every flirt option that shows up.

 

Here's the thing in DAO, my relationship sparked with Morrigan, but it was slow and kind of made sense. She was kind of not a romantic and would get mad at the flirty options if you and her didn't have good reputation yet. I ended up messing up a lot with Morrigan, making her mad because I responded as I did sometimes in character. Yet they say opposites attract.

 

Then Hawke came around and it felt like the romance was just kind of cheesy telly them what they want to hear kind of thing. That and I pretend Hawke doesn't exist in my mind. Such a bad game.

 

And then well my newest character I think he's a little bit more reserved in that  area. As said, he really isn't here to romance anyone. Here's here to the save the world, not because he's the chosen one, or the herald, but because he has the power to do something.



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You don't have to select all flirt options to get into a relationship just so you know.



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You can admit it does feel creepy though?


Not really. People flirt when they first meet all the time.

And that conversation with Cassandra wasn't even when they first met. It was when the Inquisitor first started to get to know her personally, which is the perfect time to flirt.

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Not really. People flirt when they first meet all the time.

And that conversation with Cassandra wasn't even when they first met. It was when the Inquisitor first started to get to know her personally, which is the perfect time to flirt.

 

Well, flirting for the socially awkward and social anxiety probably is creepy and awkward to me in RL, so I don't flirt with people when I first meet them.

 

I think they need to establish a basic connection first.


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Here's kind of what I wish they had done.  At the time of character creation (or under Options), ask a simple multiple-choice question:

 

Preference/Orientation:

1) Opposite sex

2) Same sex

3) Either/both

4) Neither

 

Depending on how you answered, dialog options in game would be tailored to your preference.  This way if you didn't want to be "hit on" by someone who didn't appeal to you, or if you wanted to ignore the "romance" option altogether, this would elegantly and discretely handle it without the awkward dialog tree conversations popping up.

 

Just my take on it.


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Here's kind of what I wish they had done.  At the time of character creation (or under Options), ask a simple multiple-choice question:

 

Preference/Orientation:

1) Opposite sex

2) Same sex

3) Either/both

4) Neither

 

Depending on how you answered, dialog options in game would be tailored to your preference.  This way if you didn't want to be "hit on" by someone who didn't appeal to you, or if you wanted to ignore the "romance" option altogether, this would elegantly and discretely handle it without the awkward dialog tree conversations popping up.

 

Just my take on it.

 

I just hope they learned from DA2 and you don't get instant hate karma if someone reads something that isn't there



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You can admit it does feel creepy though?

This thread was suppose to be like a "lol, yeah it's kind of weird"

I didn't choose the dialogue because it feels really weird, "oh hey I just met you and was unconscious for a while too, I'm going to flirt with you now, okay"


No, it's not creepy. The Hunterlands stuff alone probably takes a few weeks ICly. So you adventuring with her for some time by then.

And even if you just went and flirted her right off the bat, how is that creepy? Do you think if someone in real life sees someone they're instantly attracted to and goes over to flirt with that person that they're creepy?

Is following one's initial instinct to show attraction in a way that is meant to see if the attraction is mirrored, rebuffed or even just accepted/tolerated a bad thing?

No. It's not creepy. It's also not mandatory. Don't want flirt right away? Here's a thought... Don't. If your character wouldn't flirt right away then don't flirt right away.

Crazy I know. Not choosing the ~option~ is probably your best recourse instead of calling people who did choose to flirt with someone sooner creepy.
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Well, flirting for the socially awkward and social anxiety probably is creepy and awkward to me in RL, so I don't flirt with people when I first meet them.

I think they need to establish a basic connection first.


Well that goes back to what Aggie said. It's a character defining trait. You can choose to roleplay as someone who is comfortable with it. Or you can choose to roleplay as someone who isn't.

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Well, flirting for the socially awkward and social anxiety probably is creepy and awkward to me in RL, so I don't flirt with people when I first meet them.

 

I think they need to establish a basic connection first.

 

Now you're going in circles. Don't flirt then. :P



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I think that the main difference between DAO and other two DA games is that you could stumble into romance without actually intending to. From what I've seen many people didn't like that, I did though. It felt... I don't know, organic. It developed with the story. I know for certain that I never clicked on anything resebling a flirt, with even managed to avoid having the sex scene and my Warden and still managed to get through the entirty of Zevran's romance. Weird, I know :P

 

With DA2 and now DAI, the player is activly "gunning" for heir prefered romance - see the heart click the heart. Which is great when roleplaying a people person Inquisitor, but doesn't really work if you want to roleplay someone reserved with their emotions. It would be nice if you could roleplay both. Unless you can start a romance without ever clicking the heart in which case I'll retract everything I've said.


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Here's kind of what I wish they had done.  At the time of character creation (or under Options), ask a simple multiple-choice question:

 

Preference/Orientation:

1) Opposite sex

2) Same sex

3) Either/both

4) Neither

 

Depending on how you answered, dialog options in game would be tailored to your preference.  This way if you didn't want to be "hit on" by someone who didn't appeal to you, or if you wanted to ignore the "romance" option altogether, this would elegantly and discretely handle it without the awkward dialog tree conversations popping up.

 

Just my take on it.

 

No thank you.  Getting "hit on" by someone you aren't interested in is not the end of the world.  It makes sense for Bull to hit on people.  Just like it made sense for Zevran and Isabela to hit on people.  It also made sense for a passionate person like Anders to hit on someone and then become emotional if he's turned down.  It's part of their characterization.  You can turn them down.  Having a toggle to avoid content based on your gender isn't elegant and it's not going to happen.  The devs have stated this numerous times.

 

Also, you can ignore the romance option altogether.  You only engage in that content if you click a heart.  Want to ignore it?  Don't click a heart.


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I went back to the Haven, recently. After splunking in the Hinterlands, quite frankly we got bored, it was the first time I even talked to Cassandra and Bioware thinks it okay for me to just hit on her?

 

Really?

 

Last time I checked this ain't how romances go.

 

Not that I choose the option to do so. I couldn't go through with it. From a character point of view as a Dalish elf, from a personality view, he's very graceful, and elegant, kind of somebody who is selfless and cares a lot about the big picture as a whole for everybody. He's not really a hero type though as he denounces being a Herald, often, he finds it kind of creepy for people to be calling him a Chosen one, because he's a Dalish elf. He just wants to fix the problem, without having to go through the whole chosen one and herald politics.

 

Despite that it would feel very out of character to flirt with another party member. Let alone the first ever conversation we ever had.

 

Aside from the whole "what's out of character for your character will be in character for another", some of those early flirts appear to have been intentionally written as a little awkward or inappropriate.  Specifically regarding Cassandra (very minor early spoiler):

Spoiler


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This is how most flirting happens IRL. Minus glowing green hands/demon vortices/swords, etc.


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No thank you.  Getting "hit on" by someone you aren't interested in is not the end of the world.  It makes sense for Bull to hit on people.  Just like it made sense for Zevran and Isabela to hit on people.  It also made sense for a passionate person like Anders to hit on someone and then become emotional if he's turned down.  It's part of their characterization.  You can turn them down.  Having a toggle to avoid content based on your gender isn't elegant and it's not going to happen.  The devs have stated this numerous times.

 

Also, you can ignore the romance option altogether.  You only engage in that content if you click a heart.  Want to ignore it?  Don't click a heart.

 

I've got no issue with it, I've just found the implementation in the DA games (and for that matter, in the ME titles) to feel rather forced and artificial.  I typically ignore the romance options; I have better things to do than hunt down gifts or whatever mechanic they've decided to use in DA:I.  I may pursue it...once...just to get the achievement for it, then promptly forget about it thereafter.  To each his own.  <_<



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I've got no issue with it, I've just found the implementation in the DA games (and for that matter, in the ME titles) to feel rather forced and artificial.  I typically ignore the romance options; I have better things to do than hunt down gifts or whatever mechanic they've decided to use in DA:I.  I may pursue it...once...just to get the achievement for it, then promptly forget about it thereafter.  To each his own.  <_<

 

I hear you.  I support your decision to not engage in the content.  I just don't like the idea of being able to "turn off" the flirting because it fundamentally changes the characters. 


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I always play a straight male and yet I flirt with everyone in the game. Why? Cause it's just too much fun and for some people that is the kind of character they want to play. A devilishly charming james bond-esque hero.


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You can admit it does feel creepy though?

 

This thread was suppose to be like a "lol, yeah it's kind of weird"

 

I didn't choose the dialogue because it feels really weird, "oh hey I just met you and was unconscious for a while too, I'm going to flirt with you now, okay"

 

Not it's not creepy on its own.

 

It's creepy I you role play as a creep, otherwise it's not, pick up lines are just a part of life.



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All the earlier flirt options are just teasing her anyway. It's not supposed to be romantic.