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[JohnstonMR]

I want to be able to roleplay different kind of Inquisitors - from "Behold! I'm gonna make them notice me" personality to "is so shy wouldn't dare say something remotely flirtatious" personality, and all in between if possible. As it stands now, it seems that the socially awkward Inquisitors will have to stay loveless.

 

I don't care about approval or disapproval. That no one hits on the Inquisitor without copious amount of heart icons beforehand IS what makes me sad.

It has become a mechanic.

 

I actually miss the mood icons from DA2; I want my Inquisitor to be sarcastic, and I can't always tell which responses will be.  But maybe I just haven't figured the icon out, yet.  I JUST last night figured out how to remap my abilities, and felt incredibly stupid that I had posted a query about it because in retrospect it's so freaking obvious. 

[Nefla]

A lot of the flirt options don't seem flirtatious at all, especially the early ones. One of the flirt options for IB is something like "you're a good man, what happened doesnt change that" which is just something encouraging you'd say to anyone for example. Try it out, you probably won't find it creepy

[JohnstonMR]

Well, I can't speak for the other romances but for Josephine's the Inquisitor making all the flirts fits the story very well because it is part of her character. She has never been in an intimate relationship before and doesn't even recognize flirts as flirts until pretty far in the game when you explain during a certain scene. 

 

However as I recall, The Iron Bull meets you up in your room when you talk to him once and says "I got the hints. You want to ride the Bull." You don't invite him up there. So that is one where the Inquisitor doesn't initiate every encounter.

 

OMG that's funny.  I'm ok with that, because IRL there are folks that unsubtle and clueless.  

[webbedfeet]

A lot of the flirt options don't seem flirtatious at all, especially the early ones. One of the flirt options for IB is something like "you're a good man, what happened doesnt change that" which is just something encouraging you'd say to anyone for example. Try it out, you probably won't find it creepy

 

I know you aren't responding to me, but that's exactly what I wanted to know, thank you very much! Yes, that's natural enough for hilariouslyreserved!Inquisitor to say....

Now I can go back to playing the game without worrying about getting a repeat of CringeDragonAge. Thank you again.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

You could start Lelianna’s romance while talking about hair, and Alistair's just by telling him he was nice or interesting. It was simple, unnoticeable. I miss DAO’s subtlety.

 

Bioware makes romance initiations subtle, people complain about stealth romances. Then Bioware makes romance initiations more obvious, people complain they are not subtle....................

There is no winning for poor Bioware.

[GreyVsGray]

It's like... People complained about the subtleness in origins. Like, people were mad that they were simply nice to Alistair and Zev and they got feelings.

Then, when they listen and take it out, it's bloody murder again. People want a more nuanced romance instead of clicking the heart button.

I understand that these are two different camps but you guys have to understand that Bioware has been roasted doing both approaches. At this point, they did what they felt was best.

Can't blame them nor do I want to.

[Sylentmana]

It doesn't seem weird considering that men hit on women they've never met before in real life. It is a bit annoying though.  Also, Zevran hits on you while on the ground after getting his butt kick.

[Iakus]

Bioware makes romance initiations subtle, people complain about stealth romances. Then Bioware makes romance initiations more obvious, people complain they are not subtle....................

There is no winning for poor Bioware.

I actually lke what I've seen so far.

 

The "heart" options are simple flirts and compliments.   What anyone might say to someone they might be attracted to.  I mean, the first flirt for Cassandra is to call her "a force of nature" as she's attacking a practice dummy!  It's not like you're tossing her a hotel key or something! 

[Chari]

Bioware makes romance initiations subtle, people complain about stealth romances. Then Bioware makes romance initiations more obvious, people complain they are not subtle....................

There is no winning for poor Bioware.

I never complained about ninjamances. I loved them. Lelianna, Liara, Alistair and others... felt more natural, smoother

I mean, here we are at the Skyhold with Cassandra and I pick a flirt line expecting sth more or less subtle and innocent and now my Adaar and she are holding hands or sth. Like, you aren't even in relationship yet, wtf?
Or second romance line with Vivienne (who isn't romancable, I know) right after recruiting her my Adaar asks if there can be anything between them in future. Boy, she has just arrived to Heaven. Don't be a creep!

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I have never complained about ninjamances or stealthmances. In all my time on BSN, this is my first instance of hearing these words actually.

[juliet_capulet]

This is how most flirting happens IRL. Minus glowing green hands/demon vortices/swords, etc.

That made me laugh out loud!

[GreyVsGray]

You guys didn't complain but a fair portion did. And Bioware listened to the most vocal complaints and changed it up.

[Semipro]

DA:I Romance kind of feels like this.

 

1st Conversation

Me: Has anyone ever told you that you're a very nice person?

LI: Well yes, but I like to hear you say it just the same!

 

2nd Conversation

Me: Hey since you liked that I said you were nice, would you mind if I rubbed my private parts all over your face?

LI: Sure that sounds excellent, we should do that right now...I mean we've only known each other for a day and a half, might as well not be bashful about it...off with those pants now.

[GreyVsGray]

I don't know who you romanced but that isn't how it's been for me at all. Cassandra barely responds to romance options until a cutscenes just blams outta nowhere

Before anyone even asks, my inquisitor isn't the one in the photo. That's a failed experiment... Well, not exactly a failure.

[Semipro]

I don't know who you romanced but that isn't how it's been for me at all. Cassandra barely responds to romance options until a cutscenes just blams outta nowhere

 

I'm exaggerating, what I really mean is that you kinda go from..."you're nice" to "we'll bang okay?" at speeds that seem a bit different than the feel of previous games.

 

My love affair with Alistair (well mine and probably a million other peoples) was a natural evolution of two people in close proximity to each other for a drawn out period of time who just happen to work well together personality wise...well least for me, even my male warden characters I had for chasing Morrigan so I'd have some kind of excuse to be involved in the OGB situation that I was sure would be relevant in future titles, I always was like totally bro love with Alistair, and my female wardens were extremely stabby about him when it came to giving him up to Morrigan for even one night.

 

Thing is that all was very natural, Alistair's character drew me in and really made me like him...and it wasn't just...hi you're the cute guy, lets get naked...it was a genuine case of he really grew on me and there was no situation in of which I could ever see myself turning a bad world state where I'd tossed Alistair out on his ass because I liked him...I genuinely liked him.

 

I don't feel like anyones really trying to be liked in DA:I or even just being themselves and growing on me slowly but surely. I keep getting told how great they are by they people that know them, but they're not making much of an effort to charm me either.

 

So far the only somewhat human moment I've gotten out of anyone was Cassandra's obsession with trashy literature. That was relatively cute, but from a writers stand point its almost too easy a joke to make. Ms. Serious Pants spends her time in the privy with tawdry tales? How droll. But other than that, so far...everyone feels like a character, they don't feel like real people yet.

 

I'm hardly done with the game though so perhaps things get super real eventually. But I'm also having a bit of an existential problem getting my head around the idea of a messianic figure that also goes on dates....though we are talking Theodosian messianic here which is a bit more blood and nudity than the traditional real world versions.

[Lady Artifice]

No thank you.  Getting "hit on" by someone you aren't interested in is not the end of the world.  It makes sense for Bull to hit on people.  Just like it made sense for Zevran and Isabela to hit on people.  It also made sense for a passionate person like Anders to hit on someone and then become emotional if he's turned down.  It's part of their characterization.  You can turn them down.  Having a toggle to avoid content based on your gender isn't elegant and it's not going to happen.  The devs have stated this numerous times.
 
Also, you can ignore the romance option altogether.  You only engage in that content if you click a heart.  Want to ignore it?  Don't click a heart.

::likes it twice::

[TheJediSaint]

I had read poetry to Cassandra.  That's not creepy, that's epic.

[GreyVsGray]

My qunari read poetry to her.

How she's still walking after that night.. Nobody knows.

[Iakus]

I'm exaggerating, what I really mean is that you kinda go from..."you're nice" to "we'll bang okay?" at speeds that seem a bit different than the feel of previous games.

 

My love affair with Alistair (well mine and probably a million other peoples) was a natural evolution of two people in close proximity to each other for a drawn out period of time who just happen to work well together personality wise...well least for me, even my male warden characters I had for chasing Morrigan so I'd have some kind of excuse to be involved in the OGB situation that I was sure would be relevant in future titles, I always was like totally bro love with Alistair, and my female wardens were extremely stabby about him when it came to giving him up to Morrigan for even one night.

 

But how much time does DAI take place over?  You're crisscrossing Orlais and Ferelden multiple times with frequent returns to base.  A great deal of time is passing here as well.

[Doominike]

From what I saw so far it's way less blunt than the "flirting" of DA2 where it was like:

 

Anders- "I made friends with a spirit and offered to help him see the world so he lives in my mind now"

 

Hawke- "he picked a nice body, I liked the dark brooding type, rawr"

 

Might as well have grabbed his crutch..

 

 

 

While DAI is more like:

 

Trevelyan- "tell me about qunari"

 

Bull- "why ?"

 

Trevelyan- "because you're one and I wanna know you better"

[Bann Duncan]

From what I saw so far it's way less blunt than the "flirting" of DA2 where it was like:

Anders- "I made friends with a spirit and offered to help him see the world so he lives in my mind now"

Hawke- "he picked a nice body, I liked the dark brooding type, rawr"

Might as well have grabbed his crutch..



While DAI is more like:

Trevelyan- "tell me about qunari"

Bull- "why ?"

Trevelyan- "because you're one and I wanna know you better"

Yep. Most of the 'Flirt' options (running well into Skyhold) are friendly conversation bits. Cassandra for instance will eventually call you out on them (not in a "you flirted so I love you now" way) asking if you were being playful or trying to say something. You have multiple ways to articulate both.

[Former_Fiend]

I went back to the Haven, recently. After splunking in the Hinterlands, quite frankly we got bored, it was the first time I even talked to Cassandra and Bioware thinks it okay for me to just hit on her?

 

Really?

 

Last time I checked this ain't how romances go.

 

Not that I choose the option to do so. I couldn't go through with it. From a character point of view as a Dalish elf, from a personality view, he's very graceful, and elegant, kind of somebody who is selfless and cares a lot about the big picture as a whole for everybody. He's not really a hero type though as he denounces being a Herald, often, he finds it kind of creepy for people to be calling him a Chosen one, because he's a Dalish elf. He just wants to fix the problem, without having to go through the whole chosen one and herald politics.

 

Despite that it would feel very out of character to flirt with another party member. Let alone the first ever conversation we ever had.

 

I'm curious; what do you consider to be an acceptable grace period between meeting someone and flirting with them?

 

As a point, the PC and Cassandra have actually known each other for a few of weeks at that point. May not have had any real conversation but we're talking about time enough for the Inquisition to assemble a small army, send out scouts into the neighboring areas, and word of the Inquisition's schism to have gotten back to Val Royeaux - hundreds of miles from the Frostbacks - and word of the Chantry's denouncement to have gotten back to Haven. 

[Mistress9Nine]

I love that you can flirt with anyone. That's how it goes in real-life too. If they don't fancy you, they shut you down, plain and simple. 

[Aisabel]

It can be seen as pretty creepy or too forward. I barely flirted with any of the companions. I simply made good choices and only chose the so called "flirt" options if they seemed like something I would say. I ended up romancing Blackwall and ended with Solas and Cullen having the ability to be romanced. I used flirts towards Dorian just for the fun of it and wound up making him into my character's "best friend".

I say to play as you would act in real life. It isnt always easy to do that but still.