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[im commander shep]

Just finished playing the Leviathan DLC for the second time and actually listened to what it was saying and got the strong feeling that it was waiting/looking for a time to act against the catalyst and reapers as apposed to hiding. Also never really noticed the short conversation with Hackett after the mission, he mentions that they have started work on the Leviathan Codex. This all got me thinking, could ME4 be centred on the Leviathan species? Whole DLC just felt like it was more than just foreshadowing to the space brat.
Thoughts?

[ImaginaryMatter]

I think it's a pretty good assumption. The end of ME3 never deals with what happened to the Leviathans and now with the Catalyst out of the way there's a lot less in the way of them from dominating the galaxy again.

 

I also have the sneaky suspicion that BioWare is going to go for another large scale, epic threat and the Leviathans fit the bill pretty well.

[Swan Killer]

The Leviathans basically became Reapers (the irony burns!) when Shep jumped into the green beam of love.

[JasonShepard]

I... hope not. In some ways, the Leviathans are a bit too similar to the Reapers for my tastes. Mind Control? Check. Desire to control the galaxy? Check. Based on Cthulhu? Check.

 

That's not to say they couldn't be done well (I'm thinking conspiracy thriller with the Leviathans being a major player), but I don't want us to just be fighting the not-Reapers.

[justafan]

Rather than "Leviathan", I think "From Ashes" is the DLC that might reveal the most about the next game's antagonist.  ME3 turned the Protheans into a dictatorial empire that views other species as inferior, Javik tells us that their technology was far superior to anything the primitives had made, we know that they gave the Reapers a good fight, and that they had at least two sanctuary worlds where some Protheans survived the purge.  If there were both survivors on Ilos, and a survivor on Eden Prime, what is to say there weren't more of these hidden safes?

 

If a sizable enclave of Protheans survived, they would almost assuredly try to rebuild their empire to prepare for the Reapers return.  However, they would have to live off the Relay network to avoid the reaper Vanguard, and thus have to develop in uncharted parts of the galaxy and use an alternative to the relays to traverse the galaxy, and guess what were all severely damaged in the ending?  This would also be able to work around your ending choice, as they would have been preparing to fight reapers, and would thus be prepared to fight the Shepalyst from control, and likely would have developed anti-indoctrination tech that might have shielded them from synthesis.  The Leviathans might very well play a big role in the next game, but I personally find it far more likely that the Protheans will return as the next big-bad unless an entirely new species is created to be the antagonists.

[DeinonSlayer]

I don't want to dash anyone's hopes, but the ME4 trailer features a slow zoom-out from a rough green surface revealed to be Javik's forehead as he hums the Imperial March.



His mouth turns up in a wry smile just before the image cuts to black.

[Display Name Owner]

I've always been more keen on the idea of a smaller scale story, but maybe Leviathans wouldn't be so bad an option. They've been in hiding and are a shadow of the empire they once had, so the threat wouldn't be of the same level as the Reapers, which I don't think they should even try topping or matching in the future. Also their motivation wouldn't be as convoluted as the Reapers. The devs wouldn't have to try to live up to statements like "You can't even comprehend what we're doing" or "We have no beginning". We know the Leviathans' past, all they'd want is to get back to the top and conquer rather than destroy everything.

 

Still, they have the whole indoctrination angle which as been abused enough imo. Actual motivations driven by actual ideals are much more interesting. And on that note the Leviathans' motivations aren't that interesting either. I think I'd rather have an enemy who's not so otherworldly this time around.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Are they bringing back the Mako for ME 4?

 

I hope it handles better then it did in ME 1

[SwobyJ]

It'll be about a bunch of things.

 

imo

 

including Leviathans.

 

 

A relatively open world game needs more than a couple/few major antagonizing/allied forces.

[ZipZap2000]

I hope they don't get much more than a mention. Following logic (Not that logic plays a part in anything in gaming) the entire planet should be declared a no go zone and those orbs destroyed. There are enough imperialist species as it is and it's basically just bringing back the reapers.

[Mister J]

Both Leviathan and Javik were arrogant bastards; I don't mind teaching them a lesson in ME4. But I doubt either of them will be the big omnipotent enemy, if there even is going to be such a thing...

[im commander shep]

I don't think leviathan's will be the enemy but, they will somehow have a major impact on the story, either working with them and understanding them or helping them. If they were the enemy would just be reapers x2. Have we been told that ME4 will be based during shepards timeline? Maybe new protagonist will find more leviathans beyond a unopened relay, or something along those lines.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I kind of hope not. It would come too close to a Reaper re-hash, and I'm hoping that the next game isn't about an existential threat to the entire galaxy so that we can concentrate on exploring, interacting with NPCs, and getting involved with the galaxy's various political factions and conflicts.

 

Plus, it seems likely that the Leviathans' numbers are relatively few and that they can't mind-control billions of individuals at once with their spheres, or else they would have already done so. And if the enthrallment teams have a lick of sense in them, they will destroy all those spheres the moment the war is over. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Dragons. The game needs dragons!

[ImaginaryMatter]

Dragons. The game needs dragons!

 

"Their defeat was merely a delay,

for the time after the Citadel opened,

when the races of the galaxy would spill their own blood.

No one wanted to believe,

believe they could exist.

But when the truth finally dawns,

it dawns in laser fire.

But there is one they fear.

In their omni-tool translation he is Shepahkiin

SPACE DRAGON BORN!"

 

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