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Just add him to your ignore list.  Every time I add someone the forums become a little more enjoyable.

I second that motion. Ignore me and free yourself.

 

Adore, adore!  Keep adoring!  Adore endlessly and timelessly!  Adore!

 

Adore some MORE:

 

No matter the age, tumblr mentality strikes mercilessly.

 

 

please, stay on topic



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I second that motion. Ignore me and free yourself.

 

No matter the age, tumblr mentality strikes mercilessly.

 

 

please, stay on topic

 

The one who continues veering from topic is you, with your ad hominen attacks against anyone who has the absolute temerity to disagree with your absurd assertions and that serve no purpose whatsoever to the topic at hand.  Should you desire to actually discuss what the body model of male Elf characters demonstrate in-game, then do so.  Rather than continue to spew outrageous accusations against those trying to do just that.



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No, I don't play on console. I think this mod has been posted here already. As far as I know it does not fix glued arms - or maybe broken ones? I would like to get an official fix. Can you use elvhen specific armours with this mod?

 

 

The mod doesn't fix the glued arms specifically, but wider shoulders and chest kinda hide the problem... almost. It's better than nothing, just try it out. It's a great mod.



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The one who continues veering from topic is you, with your ad hominen attacks against anyone who has the absolute temerity to disagree with your absurd assertions and that serve no purpose whatsoever to the topic at hand.  Should you desire to actually discuss what the body model of male Elf characters demonstrate in-game, then do so.  Rather than continue to spew outrageous accusations against those trying to do just that.

It is a thread about broken-glued arms. It is you who post and post continuously  about how great little boys bodies are and how amazing are your experiences with it; both in game and real life. There is no place here for your attempts at creating 'topic at hand' about little boys bodies and malnourishment. Stay on topic.

 

The mod doesn't fix the glued arms specifically, but wider shoulders and chest kinda hide the problem... almost. It's better than nothing, just try it out. It's a great mod.

Yes, most definately it looks amazing, but glued arms are a horrible thing, immersion breaking. What about race specific armours, do they work with this body? I will use it as last resort if they won't fix the elvhes in the upcoming, final DLC.



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Thanks so much, phyreblade!  He does look like the arms were fixed, but of course it doesn't happen in every cutscene.

I've not played my Mahanon since my original addition to this thread, and when I start up next I'm going back to a female Lavellan.  But yeah, it would be great if they finally fixed it.  :)


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Thanks so much, phyreblade!  He does look like the arms were fixed, but of course it doesn't happen in every cutscene.

I've not played my Mahanon since my original addition to this thread, and when I start up next I'm going back to a female Lavellan.  But yeah, it would be great if they finally fixed it.   :)

The first meeting with Solas will show if it is fixed or not. There were screenshots like these ones before, without broken-glued arms happening.



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The first meeting with Solas will show if it is fixed or not. There were screenshots like these ones before, without broken-glued arms happening.

 

Well, I loaded up an old game and yes, Solas' arms were still glued.  :(


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Yes, most definately it looks amazing, but glued arms are a horrible thing, immersion breaking. What about race specific armours, do they work with this body? I will use it as last resort if they won't fix the elvhes in the upcoming, final DLC.

 

Here, check it out yourself: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/605/?

 

As far as I know it affects skyhold outfit and light armors, and I think there are also rogue armors in the mod. Race specific - I only see dalish warrior armor there.

All I can say about glued arms is that I don't even notice them anymore.


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Oh, I don't wish you to go, just to stay on topic. With all sympathy I must deny it. You do not appear to be a right breeding subject for me.

 

My heart is breaking, truly



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It is a thread about broken-glued arms. It is you who post and post continuously  about how great little boys bodies are and how amazing are your experiences with it; both in game and real life. There is no place here for your attempts at creating 'topic at hand' about little boys bodies and malnourishment. Stay on topic.

 

Yes, most definately it looks amazing, but glued arms are a horrible thing, immersion breaking. What about race specific armours, do they work with this body? I will use it as last resort if they won't fix the elvhes in the upcoming, final DLC.

 

Rather, YOU are the one who admits you've made no Elf characters in game since some nebulous point in the distant past where you made a couple clownish figures to taunt the forums with and you have actually removed the game from your system several patches since then, so you have zero -- ZERO -- credibility upon which to base any real opinion as to what the model looks like in the game at this point.  Your attempts to base any sort of logical argument now is only absurd and laughable, so you rely only on attacking those who are playing the game with these characters.

 

Thanks so much, phyreblade!  He does look like the arms were fixed, but of course it doesn't happen in every cutscene.

I've not played my Mahanon since my original addition to this thread, and when I start up next I'm going back to a female Lavellan.  But yeah, it would be great if they finally fixed it.   :)

 

I'm not so sure, rather.  I still think it comes down to what armor you put the character in, rather.  In some of the scenes I played with Cassandra today, my Miykal's arms still looked straingely twisted alongside his body.  But overall, the turn of the outfits he's wearing now seem to be more flattering than the original pieces he was decked out in.  Heh, I think the developers are only going to leave the issue unresolved.  Utterly disappointing, sigh.



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Well, I loaded up an old game and yes, Solas' arms were still glued.   :(

Typical EaWare at large. Well, at least they will release final dlc soon. The end of hope thinking is nigh.

 

Here, check it out yourself: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/605/?

 

As far as I know it affects skyhold outfit and light armors, and I think there are also rogue armors in the mod. Race specific - I only see dalish warrior armor there.

All I can say about glued arms is that I don't even notice them anymore.

Unfortunately I could not find that male robes there. Can't judge. Anyway, this mod is a must have

 

My heart is breaking, truly

Your pain is exhilarating

 

Rather, YOU are the one who admits you've made no Elf characters in game since some nebulous point in the distant past where you made a couple clownish figures to taunt the forums with and you have actually removed the game from your system several patches since then, so you have zero -- ZERO -- credibility upon which to base any real opinion as to what the model looks like in the game at this point.  Your attempts to base any sort of logical argument now is only absurd and laughable, so you rely only on attacking those who are playing the game with these characters.

I'm not sure if the word 'logic' should ever happen to be a victim of your writing. I know that my english is far from good, but I did not commit any heinous act against it when I said about me uninstalling DA:I. My diagnosis is that you clearly show symptoms of reading impairment, reading with understanding to be precise.Considering 'warped perception' mentioned earlier it gives quite an image! I did uninstall DA:I about a week or two weeks ago(I understand that your deep running imagination made you create  'several patches'). No, I did not play game past the events that clearly display broken-glued model. Appearance of characters made by me have nothing to do with body models. Well, at least these clowns' faces did not look like little boys taken out straight from some very much progressive minds.



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I'm not sure if the word 'logic' should ever happen to be a victim of your writing. I know that my english is far from good, but I did not commit any heinous act against it when I said about me uninstalling DA:I. My diagnosis is that you clearly show symptoms of reading impairment, reading with understanding to be precise.Considering 'warped perception' mentioned earlier it gives quite an image! I did uninstall DA:I about a week or two weeks ago(I understand that your deep running imagination made you create  'several patches'). No, I did not play game past the events that clearly display broken-glued model. Appearance of characters made by me have nothing to do with body models. Well, at least these clowns' faces did not look like little boys taken out straight from some very much progressive minds.

 

Ah, so suddenly you've been playing this game only until the past week or two and and can make reasonable arguments about how these characters actually look in-game.  Because you've been playing them all this time, regardless of the many times you've said you refused to play DAI until this issue was resolved and have only produced screen pictures of what amounts to clownish caricatures of the model in only the prologue scenes.  Indeed, forgive me for not understanding your stellar use of the English language.

 

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Ah, so suddenly you've been playing this game only until the past week or two and and can make reasonable arguments about how these characters actually look in-game.  Because you've been playing them all this time, regardless of the many times you've said you refused to play DAI until this issue was resolved and have only produced screen pictures of what amounts to clownish caricatures of the model in only the prologue scenes.  Indeed, forgive me for not understanding your stellar use of the English language.

 

 

Thank you for proving my point about your deficiencies. I did not say that I were playing this game. Perish the thought! In fact re-read my post

No, I did not play game past the events that clearly display broken-glued model.

 

I were creating characters and running with them to meet Solas for the first time as it is the first spot where you can look at model and its problems. I don't see anything reasonable in complete playthrough to judge something that you can inspect in 10 minutes. I'm afraid to think what will you make out of this post. Did I ride a one legged drunken bear through fosse?



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The arms are a problem, I admit. It's a shame, because this CC is beautiful, and male elf fans have to deal with the body model that can't quite figure out its own movement. 



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Typical EaWare at large. Well, at least they will release final dlc soon. The end of hope thinking is nigh.

 

Unfortunately I could not find that male robes there. Can't judge. Anyway, this mod is a must have

 

 

You mean the keeper robes? What is wrong with them? I thought it is the only decent armor for the elves, so I don't mind the vanilla model.

Glued arms are still in, the only thing the mod does, is it makes the problem less prominent. Here is the meeting Solas scene with the mod:

 

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You mean the keeper robes? What is wrong with them? I thought it is the only decent armor for the elves, so I don't mind the vanilla model.

Glued arms are still in, the only thing the mod does, is it makes the problem less prominent. Here is the meeting Solas scene with the mod:

 

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The body looks way better (in my opinion), but the arms are still broken.  :(  Nobody stands like that.



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With the mod, i personally quite like the stance from certain angles, makes my Elf look light and nimble, but maybe thats just me :/



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The body looks way better (in my opinion), but the arms are still broken.   :(  Nobody stands like that.

 

True, but at least he doesn't look like a praying mantis...


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You mean the keeper robes? What is wrong with them? I thought it is the only decent armor for the elves, so I don't mind the vanilla model.

Glued arms are still in, the only thing the mod does, is it makes the problem less prominent. Here is the meeting Solas scene with the mod:

 

 

There is nothing wrong with them. They are the best ones for male elvhes in my opinion. I just wonder how they look on the modded bigger body.



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There is nothing wrong with them. They are the best ones for male elvhes in my opinion. I just wonder how they look on the modded bigger body.

 

Vanilla keeper robes are almost the same as the modded body (at least shoulders are of the same width), and as far as I know there is no mod for them...



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It is too bad I can't set an entire topic to ignore and just not see it anymore.



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Thank you for proving my point about your deficiencies. I did not say that I were playing this game. Perish the thought! In fact re-read my post

I were creating characters and running with them to meet Solas for the first time as it is the first spot where you can look at model and its problems. I don't see anything reasonable in complete playthrough to judge something that you can inspect in 10 minutes. I'm afraid to think what will you make out of this post. Did I ride a one legged drunken bear through fosse?

 

And my own sarcasm went completely over your head, obviously.  Sorry ... let me be more clear.  That you have only played the most superficial scenes of the story and only seen the model in such a limited perspective, that you've not tried to make any real difference aside from complaining here on the forums and attacking those who've actually played through using the model, and that you've never seen the character model in varied armors and locations and other sundry perspectives -- logically, any argument that you have to offer on this topic is only small, mean and really absurd.  You basically don't have a leg to stand on in this particular argument.

 

But you are correct, that I honestly have no idea half what you say.  What's a fosse?

 

You mean the keeper robes? What is wrong with them? I thought it is the only decent armor for the elves, so I don't mind the vanilla model.

Glued arms are still in, the only thing the mod does, is it makes the problem less prominent. Here is the meeting Solas scene with the mod:

 

*snip*

 

I've tried any number of armors on my characters, to see which ones least demonstrate "the broken-arms" effect.  The vanilla pajamas were awful, for instance.  There's also a coat that an Elf mage is wearing just following the prologue that is a pure disaster!  That's the first thing I do in a playthrough, is talk to Segrit and lose that piece of mess armor.

 

Actually, the Hunter armors tend to be good on Elf characters.  I try to nab snofleur skins in the Exalted Plains, stock up on them even so that I can make hunter armors for my characters.  The enchanter armors aren't bad, either.  But I go back and forth, depending on what looks best on my guys.  There's Hunter armors like this one:

 

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The newer armors in the DLC's seem to take the problems with the model into account, though.  I've never had issues with those particular armors and get the best perspectives in scenes where my guys wear the newer stuff:

 

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Some scenes just never work right, though.  The confrontation with the Templars in Val Royeux is purely awful, with both the Inquisitor and Solas looking like they're suffering some sort of bone disease standing there.  I wonder if the Gold Nug will allow us to use JOH armors at the start of a new game ... Hmmm.

 

With the mod, i personally quite like the stance from certain angles, makes my Elf look light and nimble, but maybe thats just me :/

 

I didn't like the mod.  I felt it made my guy look like different body parts weren't in proper proportion, especially left his legs looking huge on his frame.  I finally went back and left my characters looking willowy and lean.  The most recent wardrobe changes remind me a lot of the modded look, though.  Actually caught me by surprise, hehe.

 

Here's a backside shot:

 

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Vanilla keeper robes are almost the same as the modded body (at least shoulders are of the same width), and as far as I know there is no mod for them...

I don't know how it works. I thought that there are going to be changes when you put armours on new body.

 

It is too bad I can't set an entire topic to ignore and just not see it anymore.

Completely pointless and unnecessary comment. I understand you love sloppy jobs, but please keep it for yourself alone.

 

And my own sarcasm went completely over your head, obviously.  Sorry ... let me be more clear.  That you have only played the most superficial scenes of the story and only seen the model in such a limited perspective, that you've not tried to make any real difference aside from complaining here on the forums and attacking those who've actually played through using the model, and that you've never seen the character model in varied armors and locations and other sundry perspectives -- logically, any argument that you have to offer on this topic is only small, mean and really absurd.  You basically don't have a leg to stand on in this particular argument.

 

But you are correct, that I honestly have no idea half what you say.  What's a fosse?

 

 

I've tried any number of armors on my characters, to see which ones least demonstrate "the broken-arms" effect.  The vanilla pajamas were awful, for instance.  There's also a coat that an Elf mage is wearing just following the prologue that is a pure disaster!  That's the first thing I do in a playthrough, is talk to Segrit and lose that piece of mess armor.

 

Actually, the Hunter armors tend to be good on Elf characters.  I try to nab snofleur skins in the Exalted Plains, stock up on them even so that I can make hunter armors for my characters.  The enchanter armors aren't bad, either.  But I go back and forth, depending on what looks best on my guys.  There's Hunter armors like this one:

 

 

 

The newer armors in the DLC's seem to take the problems with the model into account, though.  I've never had issues with those particular armors and get the best perspectives in scenes where my guys wear the newer stuff:

 

 

 

Some scenes just never work right, though.  The confrontation with the Templars in Val Royeux is purely awful, with both the Inquisitor and Solas looking like they're suffering some sort of bone disease standing there.  I wonder if the Gold Nug will allow us to use JOH armors at the start of a new game ... Hmmm.

 

 

I didn't like the mod.  I felt it made my guy look like different body parts weren't in proper proportion, especially left his legs looking huge on his frame.  I finally went back and left my characters looking willowy and lean.  The most recent wardrobe changes remind me a lot of the modded look, though.  Actually caught me by surprise, hehe.

 

Here's a backside shot:

 

 

Sarcasm is not a thing that should be attempted by everyone. It is enough. I have seen plenty, this thread has 64 pages and people did submit their screenshots to show the bug, not to mention outside this thread. I understand that you live in a vacuum sealed space.

 

Aren't you an ex military? and you don't know what a 'fosse' is? it is a moat

 

you speak about body ratio, propotions. you have truly warped perception. default male elf model has overly narrow shoulders and estrogen fed thighs

 

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mm-mm me like summ estrogen shots, they be sommm gut mm mm me little boy with boobies mm-mm



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The newer armors in the DLC's seem to take the problems with the model into account, though.  I've never had issues with those particular armors and get the best perspectives in scenes where my guys wear the newer stuff:

 

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I didn't like the mod.  I felt it made my guy look like different body parts weren't in proper proportion, especially left his legs looking huge on his frame.  I finally went back and left my characters looking willowy and lean.  The most recent wardrobe changes remind me a lot of the modded look, though.  Actually caught me by surprise, hehe.

 

Well, the mod just needs some getting used to :)  When I installed it myself for the first time, it felt soooo wrong. Now I can't play without it.

 

And this armor is the best! Thanks to the patch I don't have to play JoH to get it early! :wizard:

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Well, the mod just needs some getting used to :)  When I installed it myself for the first time, it felt soooo wrong. Now I can't play without it.

 

And this armor is the best! Thanks to the patch I don't have to play JoH to get it early! :wizard:

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So the Nug does work?  Woot!  That armor is the best!